Polyembryonic Vs Monoembryonic Mango Seeds 

What’s that Zubair?

@@PracticalPrimate Thats our textbook in india. Was wondering how polyembryony looks like.

@@Dr.Zubair oh right! Thanks for explaining. I hope it helps! :)

Not everyone

I am here after Reading ncert😅

Thanks!

Floridan varieties meaning red purple etc are polyembryonic and are true to type while Asiatic varieties are monoembryonic seed donot produce true to type

I don’t sorry Carlos and it is difficult but possible if they are not yet too large. When you repot just break off most of the soil and you may have one or more fall away from the others. Don’t force them if they don’t come easily, they will most likely break and you risk damaging them both/all.

Great question, I’m in the same predicament. Be gentle in other words if you try to separate them, but if you were to keep all of them together and then plant them in the ground in 6 months or so, what could potentially happen long term? Or is it worth the risk and separate them at a early stage?

Oh, here it is. Mine has two seedlings came out of one seed.

Thanks!

They are both good :) I really like Australian/Asian style mangos and most of those are poly but as you said, a lot of the Indian cultivars are monoembryonic. If I had to pick a downside there is marginally less flesh in a polyembrynic fruit. On the other hand polyembryonic seeds grow true to type and usually fruit within 3-4 years.

Glad it was of use :) thanks for watching.

Good stuff, glad you still got your tree :)

Hi Adam. Yes Ataulfo is poly so it must have been that the others just didn’t make it. And yes definitely, mono can be (and usually is) very vigorous but you don’t know until you grow them :)

Hahaha thanks! Squeezed off under water and left to air dry. Wanted them to be clearer for the vid :)

With kensington pride (the rootstock I use here) the first seedlings are almost always clones. Different cultivars don’t always follow that rule though, it is cultivar specific.

Different varieties, mangoes are usually one or the other. These were a Kensington pride (poly) and a Keitt I think (mono)

Yes that is true about Indian an Info Chinese seeds.

India actually has 1000 varieties of mango, many of which are polyembryonic too.

I’m a bit late I think but depends on the cultivar. Usually the strongest/biggest seedling is very likely a clone.

@@PracticalPrimate A clone of the mother tree? So the biggest one will likely fruit the same as the mango fruit/seed?

As early as possible is best.

Hi. I have read that some trees will never flower but I’ve never seen it or heard of it happening to anyone I know.

Depends on what you are after but for most cultivars the stronger seedlings (from the one seed) are all clones.

Gary is monoembryonic.

No problem :)

No problem :)

You can yes. What you are trying to achieve with them? They would just grow on the new rootstocks just the same.

@@PracticalPrimate well, the question is... will it ever have fruit?

Or will this take way more years then if I just take a polyembryonic seed (if I can find one)

@@SchallierDieter they will both be seedlings (even though a clone) so will take a similar amount of time. Grafting them on to a mature tree can speed up fruiting but they still have juvenile/young genes and will take longer than Mature scion.

@@PracticalPrimate thank you

Hi and welcome! Sorry I have no idea, I would suspect one of the common cultivars but I don’t know what’s grown in Mexico. I tried to look it up but the most common types were polyembryonic cultivars.

@@PracticalPrimate I left it on the counter for a few days and it got kind of dry so maybe it won't grow? I'm going to try to grow it and the three others I have.

Either, I like cultivars of both types. Poly is great because you can reproduce the cultivar without grafting but mono generally have smaller seeds. Flavour is a toss up, depends on the cultivar.

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Thank you and glad it helped :)

@@PracticalPrimate 😊

Yes it is a lottery.

@@PracticalPrimate I have a good grower now from a really nice small green/red Mango with a nice, mostly yellow with some almost red, inner fruit which I think was from mexico? Or south america?. Its about 2 feet tall now and almost a year old. I have it in a 3 gallon pot but going to plant in ground. So hoping for a winner!

@@PracticalPrimate Think it might have been a Palmer or a Haden

Grafting is the best way and luckily it is easy with mangoes. You could air layer but they are not a good candidate for it.

@@PracticalPrimate uh oh. not looking good for my valencia pride seedlings in the back yard then haha

Top work them :) I have a video on how to top work a mango tree to whatever cultivar you like (link below). You could always use scion off your Valencia pride, but you might want to mix it up with some other cultivars :) seedling trees can be fun too, you never know what you might get! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TRP6DyLZZkM.html

@@PracticalPrimate appreciate the help. I think you linked a kiwi commercial haha but Ill find the vid on your channel. Thanks again

Haha whoops! Here it is ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TRP6DyLZZkM.html

when you want a particular kind of tree,as in with specific characteristics like sweeter fruit,high yielding,pest resistant etc,grafting will help because you get choose the preferred scion or rootstock,if you want to mimic a plant with certain desired qualities you can go for clones from polyembryonic seedlings,if you prefer experimenting with plants and plan to develop a new set of desired quality in the plant you can go for monoembryonic seedling since it is a unique individual as opposed to polyembryonic seedling.

@@maple5305 thank you:)

@@maple5305 sorry again and again, i am disturbing you. Can you please explain why some fruits won't have seeds like papaya, is it because of non- pollination ? How female plants give fruits without pollination? Please share your views

@@chandrakala7037 no issues,it is because of a phenomenon called parthenocarpy,here fertilisation occurs,it is obviously preceded by pollination, parthenocarpy is the development of a fruit(ovary) but in such conditions seeds(ovule/s) fail to develop which is one of the reason for seedless fruits,here either the pollen,sperm,ovum might be dysfunctional! But these days breeders are trying to make use of this phenomenon which is why we come across seedless fruits, seedless fruits means longer shelf life and easier for consumption, another reason is triploid seeds(bananas),a fruit developed from triploid seed will not have a functional seed and hence result into a seedless fruit in the coming generations.

@@maple5305 in my case, fertilization itself is not happening in female papaya tree as i don't have male papaya plant. Still i am getting fruits from this female tree, which are seedless. My doubt is how this fruit is developed when there is no fertilization. Please spare some time to clarify my basic doubt. Thanks in advance.

ZenGrow can always graft it over if you don’t like the Keitt too!

@@PracticalPrimate actually I liked the Keitt. They sell those and Tommy Atkins around here but I don't like Tommy. Ataulfo's aren't too bad and I've been trying to grow one because you can get fruit in about 3 years from seed.

@@PracticalPrimate yup that's the plan!

Where are you located? Here in Lehigh Acres, FL some of my polyembryonic seedlings (thought to be Turpentine, but I could be wrong) get hit by Anthracnose and thus lack vigor, w/ some perishing. Just wondering if this is your problem with Ataulfo? My Valencia Pride from seed grown seedlings (monoembryonic) seem to thrive w/ no sign of Anthracnose. One seedling started producing nice large fruit within 4 years. The "Turpentine" seedlings that survive, get a Anthracnose resistant scion... and then thrive.

@@Balmy_Jones thanks for the reply, I'm in Southern California. Not sure if it's anthracnose but the seedlings get sick and die off on me. I managed to keep a Keitt seedling alive and it's thriving. I pulled it out of my worm bin. I wasn't planning on growing a Keitt since it will take longer for it to fruit but it's alive so I'm keeping it!

Welcome :)