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Polyend Tracker Review after 12 months - Is it a good portable standalone music workstation? 

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@michaels5166
@michaels5166 2 года назад
Polyend TRacker for life!!!! I can easily get 1 or two more, because they are such a value for the money. Now understand this device rocks when you can think outside of the MPC/rippin records mentality and you want to go far left. The FM radio sampling, monster sequencer, granular synthesis alone for $700 is insane. I carry the Tracker,the cable,a Zoom recorder, my tablet,and a USB powerbank,and that's a whole studio..
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Its definitely become my go to device. Glad you are enjoying yours :)
@alexiwiedemann
@alexiwiedemann 2 года назад
@@Aisjam hi. Nice video. How do you compare the tracker with the deluge? Which one is better for you?
@bresk13
@bresk13 Год назад
granular is just a toy... too damn limited
@alienanxiety
@alienanxiety Год назад
@@bresk13 more limited than a bongo?
@ivorydungeon909
@ivorydungeon909 2 года назад
Ordered mine this morning - thanks for your many videos that have helped me get some idea of where I might be headed
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
That's what I want to here. Glad I helped you make your decision. You're in for a treat.
@alkalinermusic
@alkalinermusic 2 года назад
Wow that was so thorough and well put together! Well done! Good that you included some background info on LSDJ, Renoise, M8 and where the Polyend Tracker sits in terms of everything too. - i was looking to get one a couple of years ago when they went out of stock everywhere. I've talked myself out of one many times since, instead delving into Renoise, but don't think I'll be happy until I've had one. thanks for the 1 year on review :)
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Cheers Alkaliner, I wanted to highlight where it sits as there isn't much in that portable protracker style space, and the Polyend filled it quite will. Maybe 1 day ill pick up a M8 and do a thorough comparison, however I feel it would be comparing apples and oranges as the workflow is different. With 1.5 and 1.6 just around the corner. its a fully capable machine and I use Renoise now for VST work. I may not be helping your gas :).
@turbotambourine
@turbotambourine 3 месяца назад
This is a great video! Excited to get to play with the device so soon! I’m coming from a modular background so I’m very excited to be able to see what’s going on in the sequencer and also structure longform stuff with specific detail!
@VAN17INO6
@VAN17INO6 2 месяца назад
started with LSDJ too... and now got the polytracker :)
@Polyend
@Polyend 2 года назад
Maaan I love the mixer here!
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Wink. Could be on polyend's build list :). It is a very specific device however there arn't many slim portable 2 channel mixers on the market.
@rhampton1914
@rhampton1914 5 месяцев назад
This is exactly what i need to hear.. Thanks for your Video..i ordered one and should have in the mail next week..i just hope it's easy to start sequencing...i'm heavily into sequencing...and also sampling my own sounds into the machine...i was going to get the MPC one but i got the tracker used on the FB Market place at a great price...so i'm excited..Thanks for sharing your experience
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 4 месяца назад
Glad you got a deal, the tracker is really good for grid sequencing and workflow can get really granular. It takes a bit to get with the workflow however it is a super fast process.
@Rxke
@Rxke Год назад
Belated, but just want to thank you for a very thoughtful review. Indeed, specs are not king, it's the workflow that counts. Love the way you show how this can be a very immediate, rewarding machine.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam Год назад
Cheers Rxke, this is my plan for reviews as i feel it should be discussing if the device is a right fit for you VS how good it is.
@tracetravlr4029
@tracetravlr4029 Год назад
Super well done and informative video! 👍🏻👍🏻 Keep up the great work. Seriously considering one of these in the near future.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam Год назад
Too much of a bad influencer :). It's still my favourite. If you want to know how to use it. I have a series on the workflow.
@BTRS77
@BTRS77 2 года назад
Thank you for the review and the tutorial series. Very valuable for a first time tracker user.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
No problem Bjorn. Hope you are enjoying your tracker and making cool tracks.
@HelicopterRidesForCommunists
@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 7 месяцев назад
Polyend pads are very unique imo, they exist in this weird place between soft and pliable and hard and plasticky. I quite like them.
@hubspin
@hubspin Год назад
Thanks. Really helpful! Good thoughts regarding limitations etc. I share your view on the fact that limitations on a spec sheet are not the way to judge a device for music creation.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam Год назад
Cheers Hubspin. User Experience is key and that's what i want to highlight on this channel.
@ThereminHero
@ThereminHero Год назад
Agreed. Also if they had made it 16 tracks, the price would have been higher and the screen would start to feel too small.
@artsolomon202
@artsolomon202 2 года назад
I got a lot of synth beauties in my studio, but the last 6 months ive only been busy with the polyend, my next one will be the medusa, i just love it! You have done a majestic job with the tracker, THANK YOU POLYEND! 🙏👍 And thank you Aisjam , you've done a great job with this video!
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
I am having this same experience, Polyend has made a very addictive machine. Thank you for the nice comments.
@artsolomon202
@artsolomon202 2 года назад
@@Aisjam its such a creative machine, and it makes me make music in a different way than the other toy's so to speak. This is my first experience with a tracker and it absolutely wonders me how easy you get such interesting results in such a short time! I will be following polyend and its future products very closely, and see what magic toys they will produce.
@bahutu802
@bahutu802 2 года назад
Thanks once again for a very well structured and inspiring video! Awesome idea to make this 1-year review. While I continue to love the Tracker, the biggest concern I have is that my jogwheel starts to have hiccups and might stop working at all at some time. As it is supposed to be subject to wear, it's not covered by the guarantee. Which is quite odd since it started to have hiccups only a few weeks after the purchase; so it's rather due to bad engineering than heavy use... Another thing I really don't like is the way it records external MIDI, populating multiple tracks. Which is kind of expected due to monophonic tracks, but since half of the space is occupied by NOTE OFF commands it populates even more tracks. Like 2-3 for a simple melody and up to 6 or so for chords. And if you arm only 1 track, multiple notes might be omitted since the OFF notes have priority over new incoming notes. Sure you can program everything much more efficient, using just 2-3 tracks for very complex musical ideas. Nonetheless, sometimes I really would prefer to quickly live-record s/th without populating all tracks at once and without having to copy/cut/paste events afterwards to condense it down to fewer tracks. Having said that, the Tracker was my first gear leading into the tracker world and I'm extremely happy I discovered it.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Cheers man. Also if you are having issues with the jog wheel, Maybe get in touch with polyend. My tracker's jogwheel hasn't had any issues however that was a section of the video left on the cutting room floor. Polyend and other companies were hit with the part apocalypse. because of covid, Quality Assurance was thrown out the window and a bunch of bad parts hit the market. I know as some of the parts I have ordered were DoA. A real big shame as I feel this caused a massive anxiety about getting the tracker for a lot of users (it was on my mind when purchasing it). Since mine is out of warranty, I opened it up to check out what they did, and I am really happy with their circuit design. Its a single board and all the SMD components are far away from the input components. I am not an expert with electronics, however I would feel comfortable replacing a key switch or that rotary encoder with my soldering skills. Disclaimer you do this at your own risk, but chat to Polyend to see what you can do. I asked and they have switched the rotary encoder with Alpha branded encoder, that makes me happy. For the midi, I can see how that can be limiting for you. I been trying out recording my live plays in a working pattern then render that pattern to a sample. its been really fun chopping it up. Could be something you could try.
@abby_photos
@abby_photos 11 месяцев назад
I ordered mine yesterday and got it for less than $500 USD which I think is a steal. I'm new to song writing but primarily work in Renoise so this is perfect for if I wanna make music at my girlfriends house or if I ever end up actually performing live
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 11 месяцев назад
That is a good price. I feel you're on the same journey as renoise is my goto when I need vsts. Currently I am working on building sets on my trackers to play live similar to how use to run with my gameboys with lsdj. You're in for a lot of fun
@nedogled
@nedogled 2 года назад
Great vid! Thanks for the in-depth look into the Tracker.... gave me some ideas on how to use it in my workflow
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful! Are you talking about my tutorial series. Is a lot of information in those video too.
@eightsprites
@eightsprites 5 месяцев назад
Really nice intro!
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 5 месяцев назад
Cheers. gotta make it look nice :)
@LPjank015
@LPjank015 2 года назад
Next gear I will buy. Thx for the reviev. Resampling is op. ;)
@alfabutane
@alfabutane 2 года назад
Very nice vid, my friend!
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Cheers Buddy, and I have been enjoying your videos too. Especially that secret new box you have :).
@Polyend
@Polyend 2 года назад
Oh totally, and the augmented reality mixer is just
@oldecodger4522
@oldecodger4522 2 года назад
Great video. I'd love to own one of these and the Play, but the Australia tax is brutal.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
That nice beach tax definitely stinging atm. Check out Foundsound here in aus. I got my tracker through them and they were really helpful. It's has been one of my best synth purchases as still after a year I use it daily. Do want to get a play to get that juicy youtube algorithm views. But sustainable gas therapy is a part of this channel so lots more tracker tutorials.
@Jimantronic
@Jimantronic 2 года назад
Great rundown, thank you 🙂
@GradyNickel
@GradyNickel 2 года назад
awesome! I love my tracker!
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Glad you are having fun with your tracker :).
@lycosa2000
@lycosa2000 2 года назад
I just bought one because I love trackers. Having said that, I hope to use it mostly as my primary sequencer for my eurorack setup. I have a midi to CV module that'll get me 4 channels out. Has anyone used it in that capacity? I could have bought the NerdSeq for approximately the same price, but I'm running out of rack space and thought the external sequencer would be better and the Polyend tracker just looks fun to use.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
I haven't got into the modular space yet however the midi capability works really well on my synth table. running 4 different synths at once. Would like to see what you do.
@cymbolic_space1832
@cymbolic_space1832 2 года назад
you mentioned that using a gooseneck and sampling into the tracker didn't really work they way you wanted, why not? i have an xlr to 3.5mm on the way to hook up a dynamic mic so i can sample live percussion to my tracks for a bit of organismic vibration.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
In the studio its was pretty good. Similar to the goose neck on the Microfreak. However taking the device outside made me paranoid, especially throwing logs to make drum sounds. I have a H5 with a shotgun mic which is much safer for me and the tech.
@cymbolic_space1832
@cymbolic_space1832 2 года назад
@@Aisjam copy that brother! i reckon that was a wide adaptation. i plan to stick to my h4n for the field as well. good to know it wasnt a gain issue.
@edm3633
@edm3633 5 месяцев назад
19:48 but here I began to doubt that this was all unpaid advertising 😂
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 5 месяцев назад
haha. I know what I want, they know how to build it :),
@lagonka1402
@lagonka1402 5 месяцев назад
Hi there ! You mentioned using the mic in to record sample on the spot, and that i didn't really work out as expected. Would you elaborate a bit ? What went wrong ? :) That's what I'd like to do with a Zoom H1 or a piezzo mic.
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe 2 года назад
Hope the new device is a groove box that’s samples
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
I am keenly watching too. Especially @isobutane videos
@SergeyCoder
@SergeyCoder 2 года назад
Didn’t see main thing. How to export all my music from tracker to Ableton for example? As I saw in other videos there many problems with it.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
I had been a bit touchy in previous firmware, however 1.5 is solid. I covered the export features in the Mastering tutorial here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ntavax0BcUM.html at 8:20. I didn't make it daw specific however its export works.
@gooutonahinote3311
@gooutonahinote3311 2 года назад
I've written and arranged songs in the song mode in the tracker, then used the "export song stems" function and put them straight into my DAW for mixing and final touches. Works a charm :)
@HelicopterRidesForCommunists
@HelicopterRidesForCommunists 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for not referring to it as a “groove box”
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 7 месяцев назад
I feel there needs to be another catch term for these new devices. I say music easel, I hear hardware DAW, however some term that captures the all in one aspect would be nice
@davidpickett3546
@davidpickett3546 2 года назад
What microphone and lead do you recommend?I only have condensors and obviously this wont power thos through the line. Just looking for something cheap and cheerful but ok sounding... many thanks. Just making my way through your new video
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Bit of a tough one. The main 2 microphones I use with the Polyend Tracker is the rode videomic ntg and zoom h5. Its weird choice but the sound is great. However I have been testing the Rode VideoMicro as it fits a lot of my needs (small form factor, 3.5mm jack, mountable) However there is a noticeable audio difference. Listen to the section about portability, I use the videomicro when showing off my studio. I am at a point I want to try and 3d print a housing around a small capsule and try making the microphone I want for polyend tracker. Cables, I use hosa in the video. However a cable is a cable (unless its a cheap knockoff), I make mine from parts at Jaycar. If they are long like 10ft you will get impedance, also shielding if you are near power leads. However you should be able to find some decent cables for under $10 at any reputable electronics/ hifi store
@bahutu802
@bahutu802 2 года назад
An alternative might be to use a mic pre-amp, in which case you were free to choose any mic. It wouldn't be too portable anymore, of course.
@viktorbenev
@viktorbenev 2 года назад
Hey ! Thanks for the in-depth review. I have a question. Can you independently play through a midi controller keyboard(s), while playing the constructed tracks themselves ? Can you use it as an instrument sound source in addition to live playing with the tracks ?
@hein_Solo
@hein_Solo Год назад
nice tutorial. i bought it :)
@Aisjam
@Aisjam Год назад
Thank you Heinrich. Hope you have lots of fun.
@MrChe1999
@MrChe1999 2 года назад
Can you do pattern changes on external gear too?
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 4 месяца назад
When I try to load up a directory in the Sample loader, it takes forever, and when it loads, it shows the files in groups of hundreds... i.e. 2600-2699, 2700-2799, etc... and then it takes forever to navigate into those directories. How do I fix this??
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 4 месяца назад
Each folder of samples can only store 100 so the Tracker generates them, that's is why its taking forever. My process is to organise them into sub categories on the PC and go through a process of culling and only keeping my favourite sounds. I do this for all my samplers.
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 4 месяца назад
@@Aisjam That's fine and good for you, but as a professional producer I have literally hundreds of gigabytes of samples I have collected over the years. A typical commercial sample pack can contain thousands of samples. If the Tracker can't be configured to navigate a directory on an SD card in a conventional manner than that's a dealbreaker for using the PT in a professional environment.
@mathieurebacz391
@mathieurebacz391 2 года назад
An important question : when you have a sample for example a piano C5 sound, if you play a different note for instance D6 will it be shortened ? or can you EASILY change the pitch without changing the length of the note ? (I want to play live on a midi keyboard and sequence it with the tracker)
@paulkuiper5289
@paulkuiper5289 2 года назад
Normal samples will be played at a higher pitch and therefore be shortened. You can however record a piano playing multiple notes, for example 2 full scales. And then use a split track to chop it up in slices. It is some work but you will only have to do this once per instrument. After that you can just copy this instrument to new projects.
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
So there is a couple of ways to do this on the tracker. @Paul Kuiper is right with multiple samples. You can use the beat slice functionality of the Polyend tracker so you keep all the samples in one .wav and have 1 piano instrument then chop it up. Another way is to use the granular synth to live timestretch like shown here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dIZsvMkvrjQ.html, very useful technique. Me personally I like the artefacts of using amigas and tracker samples that aren't time stretched. if i need to jump multiple octaves, I will record multiple samples like C4 C5 C6, or need a little more fidelity I would record C4 F#4 C5 F#5 C6 F#6 (f# is half way between). Hope this helps.
@sabasis
@sabasis 2 года назад
Do you find the reliance on samples to be limiting? Where do you get your library of samples or do you have tips for making/accumulating them? Compared to other instruments I've used (where maybe synthesis is involved), I've biggest limitation I've had creatively with the Polyend is I'm not excited about the samples I've collected. (I have a Polyend Tracker and a DirtyWave M8 and I love them both for different reasons)
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Transitioning from LSDj, Nanoloop, famitracker and trackers running synths. I did struggle with a straight sample workflow. However this pushed me creatively towards some of the tricks you see with pro-tracker and demo scene users. single cycle waveforms, position slicing and messing with the wave smoother on top of the instrument parameters really has a sound to its own. So sneakily using the instrument parameters to create synth engines and with 1.6 i have been saving them for future use. Just touching up the video for tomorrow about making single instrument drum kits. I been really delving deep on making tutorials to explain techniques with the Tracker for different genres of music. Its has dominated this channel. I made the library so I could make tutorials with out getting copyright claims on the videos. Tried to keep it generic enough buts still a fan of chiptunes and all the sounds I created. On the making sounds, the M8 has a lot of mutable instruments sounds (I use the microfreak/ polyend tracker as a hobo M8) and you have the op-z, I spend time just mucking around making sounds with my synths and record them with the daw. Then save the best ones and see how I can mangle them in the Polyend Tracker sample engine. Creativity wise, I find it more inspirational to look at mod files and other tracker users, try and see how they do it. this is a good spot modarchive.org/ and check out A for amiga by CTrix, one of my favorate protracker albums. Also check out my tutorials for sound design and automation with the Polyend Tracker. Keep making videos too :). I might get a M8 one day.
@sabasis
@sabasis 2 года назад
@@Aisjam dude. thanks for the quick and lengthy reply. appreciate the knowledge!
@drum-jitsu
@drum-jitsu Год назад
Can you use it like a midi file player as a backing tool
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760 2 года назад
Melbourne?
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Rocky :).
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760
@tybowesformerlygoat-x7760 Год назад
Greets from Lismore.. :)
@claycowartisamazing
@claycowartisamazing 2 года назад
spreeeead sheeeeet
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
very :)
@earlsfield
@earlsfield Год назад
The only issue I have with it is terrible clock and sync with other sequencers.
@缪羽
@缪羽 2 года назад
mixer?new?
@Aisjam
@Aisjam 2 года назад
Haha no, it's me just 3D modelling something. However it's been a popular idea. Maybe it could be something if we ask polyend nicely
@minecraftavatarofhunterbiden
@minecraftavatarofhunterbiden 2 года назад
this dude literally pulled out the 88pro. now I am forced to buy this workstation
@digitalbeat666
@digitalbeat666 Год назад
limitation: poor mod file playback routine
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