Yeah it only serves to discourage people from trying to learn and improve in the first instance! It would be nice if we didn’t feel so trepidatious (especially as adults) about being mistaken, particularly when we are learning something new…
He didn't have to speak in Mandarin but he chose to. He was brave and he probably knew he would be criticized. He put in the effort to learn Chinese and showed his interest in the Chinese culture. Good job.
@@asiacuisine4869 people have done tons of bad illegal stuff to help their business in history, than trying to impress someone by trying to learning their language
I personally respect anyone who puts an effort into learning a language because it’s not an easy thing for everyone. Let alone he’s doing QA in Mandarin which requires more technical terms. Either way, it’s nice that you broke it down in this video for people to understand more about intonations and pronunciation of Mandarin.
It takes a lot of IGNORANCE to think Mark Zuckerberg is actually a HUMAN, he's an AI who can speak every language fluently but chooses to struggle to fool all the pea brain humans, how can people not see this??
I hate it when people judge others on their foreign language skills, like I’m learning Japanese rn and that’s hard AF to learn. The same as goes for learning Chinese.
Let me tell you. Don't give up. I actually learned a bit of conversational japanese many years ago (forgot it all...) And I met with some representatives from docomo (yes the Japanese phone company!) when I was at ctia one year. They embraced me. Despite knowing very little they were happy to see someone who knew their language. With that said, let's see if I can remember anything. Kon ban Wa. Yoroshiku onigashimasu. O genki desuka? I sadly only learned romanji. I actually at one time had memorized numbers from like 1 to 1 million..forgot it. Good luck!
It's so hilarious every time he says a sentence everyone claps. This is so funny to me because as a black guy i was speaking Mandarin with a guy (just basic words), and he was jumping up and down extremely excited. I knew then that I should continue learning languages. The experience was out of this world.
I am not a fan of mark, but this was a fair and compassionate assessment full of truth and kindness. I love your videos and attitude towards the world in general
@@acenomadic lol I don't disagree with you there but they would have to be treated differently for much different reasons than their language learning skills.
It's fine to say he's not amazing, but he literally opens with "My Chinese is bad." He's not claiming to be amazing, he simply spoke the Chinese he knew and if it wasn't amazing well he never claimed it was.
Wtf are you talking about? He was learning it, felt comfortable enough to speak without major hesitation, and wanted to connect with the people whose language he was learning, so he did a speech to reach out to them and say hey, I'm interested in your culture and am learning your language. Again he straight up said his skills weren't amazing but the point was to say, hey, I'm learning it. It would only be arrogant if he thought/claimed his Chinese was great and was trying to show off his perfect Chinese, which he wasn't.
@@HyperLuigi37 Wanted to connect? just like he wanted to connect to the dictator xi jin ping when he asked him to name his daughter? The dude wanted facebook in china. Thats what all this was about (he failed). Business. His chinese sounds awful, locals would have no patience to listen to this, trust me. If he had any modesty he would realise his chinese sounds so bad that he should not be out there showing it off in public. if he wants respect for his chinese then fucking learn it properly, then do a public speech. He has the resources to do so, but no doubt he doesn't have the motivation any more as the facebook in china ship has sailed. Don't pretend that zuck has any interest in china. Like what? even john Xina has more interest in china than zuck with his lao gan ma.
@@HyperLuigi37 Shes not connected to china in any way. did you watch the video? her parents are vietnamese chinese, and her mandarin is worse than zucks. Open your eyes, his whole chinese learning was entirely about getting facebook in china and it failed.
I think as long as they understand what he's trying to say it shouldn't be that big of a deal. Mark is probably very new to the mandarin language and will polish the tones more and more as he's learning more of the language and the chinese culture
Live in another country and hear how cringe people sound speaking bad foreign languages, so I highly disagree with you, if you are going to make an effort learning a new language, learn how to pronounce words correctly and don't settle for as long as they can understand you.. Me blue like ! get the point.
Yes! You can see from the reaction of the audience - They are stoked! As a Malaysian-Chinese, I understand how exciting it is when you know someone has taken the effort to learn your language. It doesn't have to be perfect, there is no "perfect" Chinese as accents vary from region to region as vastly as English.
*ADVANCED (C1-C2) ENGLISH VOCABULARY IN THIS VIDEO* 1. To Pillory (V) 2. Infuriating (ADJ) 3. Flack (N) 4. To Override (V) 5. Chump (N) 6. Enunciation (N) 7. Be On A Par With (V) 8. Ecstatic (ADJ) 9. Be Misled (V) 10. Astray (ADJ)
I love this format of videos I find that your teaching makes the language engaging while being super informative I found myself trying to say some Chinese words alongside you while you describe how they are enunciated. Thank you 🙏
Learning another language especially when it's tonal is definitely difficult when your mother tongue isn't one. Props to Mark Zuckerberg for trying his best to engage with his audience. I feel like contextually people would be able to understand him. Thanks XiaoMa for creating a really positive video!
"The people criticizing his language are american, NOT chinese." I think this sums up 99% of outrage culture in the US. It's never the actual group getting upset, it's almost always some person whose trying to represent the oh so marginalized communities and take it upon themselves to handle the situation, even though they personally arent even offended. It's like The redskins getting their name changed to washington football, when many of the washington tribes actually appreciated the representation in sports and disliked that the NFL mascot was changed.
I can get with some of this… but I’ve actually read and heard several Native Americans say they find that term to be offensive… I guess you are just going to believe whoever you want to believe
This literally has nothing to do with outrage culture though?? It's not like the people making fun of Mark Zuckerberg's Chinese are upset or anything, they just mock him because he's awkward and his Chinese is not very good. The reason why Chinese people aren't making fun of him is because they think it's impressive that he speaks their language at all and because it's generally rude to make fun of someone learning your language. Same reason why if a Chinese CEO held a speech in really bad English, Americans wouldn't make fun of him for it but other Chinese people totally might. This has nothing to do with anyone being offended on someone else's behalf
I'm Lakota and TBH it's actually mixed. Some Natives are offended by it and some aren't. Actually, when I was a kid we had a Native woman come to our school and talk about how people don't realize that things like mascots can be racist and offensive.......one kid raised his hand at the end during the question part and asked "Did you know that we are called the Little Noises and our mascot is a Native American?" She didn't and was caught very off guard. It was actually kinda funny. You'd think she would at least have read the sign on the front of the school when she came to give her speech "Nathan Hale Ray. Home of The Little Noises." And I do NOT live anywhere near there anymore so I'm not doxxing myself🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@amypanddirtytoo1926 sounds like indoctrination. I remember in primary school a substitute came I and started talking about how communism is a fundamentally brilliant concept.
As usual. leave it to American journalists to be the undisputed authority on anything that's not American in origin. Regardless of your personal opinion about Zuckerberg, props to the guy for taking the time to learn the language.
I speak both English and Mandarin (and a few dialects) since I was a child. Even I would freak out if I attempted to address a group of native Chinese. Yes Mark’s pronunciation is off and it requires intent listening at times to grasp what he’s saying, but full marks to him for trying and putting himself up for criticism.
As a Chinese I was really impressed by mark at that time. Honestly to get to that level even takes a lot of effort. 7 years old level is a big achievement!
I appreciate this. People who criticize others without acknowledging the effort are scum. Could you imagine if we gave immigrants flack for their accents?
I have known immigrants who actually criticize other immigrants for not working harder to get rid of their accents. I don't even understand that. I'm learning Swedish and one of my Swedish friends hyper criticizes me on every little pronunciation. I ask if they understand me and they say yes... but I should strive to be perfect. I have a French Canadian friend that cannot get his English tenses correct... always flips them around. When he talks it's one of those things that is a little grating to my American ear... but I would never ever get on him about it... it's always very clear what he's meaning to say. If it caused confusion, I might point it out, so that he will be clearer in the future. I love all the different accents and the way people speak English... it add to the variety of life!
There are many things to criticize Zucc over but his genuine attempt to speak Chinese to a Chinese audience is not one of them. The crowd loved and appreciated it.
@@eren-_ classic SJW move, claim anti-semitism or racism or something-phobe whenever you hear or listen something you don't like. I've Jewish acquaintances, none of which like Zuckerberg, whom I met thru friends who work at a synagogue. I studied Hebrew and latter Judaism under a rabbi's guide but, who cares?? I dared criticize your lord comptroller Sucker-borg, who just happens to be ethnically Jewish whilst also being the very embodiment of Hillul HaShem. So damend me, I must be an anti-semite thru and thru.
It’s clearly evident here and in your videos that speaking somebody else’s language is such a warming, accepting and respectful thing. Whereas unfortunately in the English language, it’s common to be ridiculed and made to feel like you don’t belong if you don’t speak “properly”. Keep doing what you’re doing man 👊 Currently using Memrise to learn Mandarin, dropped off a few weeks back but will jump back on the wagon today 🤙
If someone can be understood and is able to converse like this, seems like they get a passing grade to me. Plus, 9/10 times the people that are outright bullying someone's language skills aren't even as good as they think they are, so I'm going to guess the journos have the elitist / jealousy stance here. You're right on point that if someone said something like this about a Chinese person then the same journalists would be frothing at the mouth. I don't particularly like Zuckerberg but I think it's so awesome that he could do this.
As long as I can understand what the other person is saying, knowing that it’s not their first language, I do not care if it’s fluent or with an accent. Props to him for actually putting himself out there and not even talk, but actually do public speaking!
when someone that has a Spanish accent is talking to me in broken English, I keep speaking English to them even though I know Spanish. It sounds cruel to do that to someone, but I think that helps them learn and get better in conversational English. Great Vid of Mark speaking Mandarin, keep them coming. 😊
A lot of my friends in Italy practice their English with me, and to have a conversation with them even if they don't know exactly what I'm saying, really helps pick up on the language.
I love to speak Spanish to my friends who speak English as a second language. Some of them do the same with me and practice their English. So you end up with the English speaker in Spanish and Spanish speaker in English. It’s kind of comical when we both end up having bad grammar at times, but it’s an amazing way to learn.
I have visited China about 10 times. I know just a few phrases I have learned as I needed them. I always preface when I try by saying I don’t speak Chinese well. Without fail everyone in China I have encountered has been gracious and encouraging. I can imagine Americans being more critical.
The journalists ridiculing him are wrongfully mean. The part where you showed how, if the positions were switched, people would likely not be mean was a good point. People like you make language-learning very fun! Thanks, mate. :D
Thank you for clearing up an unseen hurdle in language. And thanks for showing the Chinese onlookers in the crowd that were happy to be there, not offended by his lack of mastery.
I think I feel like Mandarin Chinese is exceptionally difficult. My biggest struggle in any language is vocabulary and grammar. If he can speak without a script and answer questions with a broad vocabulary, he has a deeper grasp. I feel like with time (if you work at it) pronunciation will come, but really being able to speak and understand is the bigger hurdle.
I would loove if you can do some scandinavian language. Norwegian is the best because both danes and swedes understand most of it too. So its 3 flies on one hit there :) Love your vids, keep up the great work. Your amazing
Say what you will. Putting himself out there to perform a speech to an entire room of Native speakers is highly respectable. This is why he is so successful. To become confident and comfortable with ANYTHING, you have to first be uncomfortable. Respect Mark.
Hi! Just wanna say I love this video. It humanized Mark Zuckerberg for me. His joke about listening was really funny! I never knew he could speak Mandarin and I'm grateful you approached it in this way. I've been learning Korean for about seven months now, and I slow myself down by worrying that I'll mix up the sounds (because so many Korean sounds, to my American ears, are very similar). It can be intimidating to learn, but your marvelous video helped remove my fear a little. Thank you so much. Please do more videos like this as I learned a lot about Chinese as well! Thanks again!!
I bet so many piling on to criticizing him dont even know about the 4 tones in mandarin. 1 word can many various different meanings just by changing the tone.
I do appreciate your analysis, even though I don't speak Chinese nor do I understand it. I guess I have a little bit of an advantage over other Learners of foreign languages when my native tongue are both Spanish and English since I learned them at the same time my third language is Portuguese and my fourth language is Italian although not perfect, since these are romance languages I already have pretty much the pronunciation down packed. But I certainly do understand about the tone the intonation, or the "singing", even in Spanish every single country has their own "singing", and some of them are very intelligible, yuyos know this person is from Argentina or Cuba, for example, even while speaking English. I appreciate everything you do and I wish you the best of success in all you do! A great big hug from Puerto Rico.
Yo I know these videos don't get a ton of views but I absolutely love the authenticity behind them, + they're super informative. Hopefully you still continue to make videos in this format.
I really liked this video. More so than your "walking around NY" videos. I would *really* appreciate more about how to read Pinyin with correct pronunciation. I don't even know how Pinyin "X" is supposed to sound.
I studied Chinese for a year and a half in Beijing, no less, and.it took me three months before I could hear and identity tones during (听写) transcription exercises. After 20 years, I still have tonal problems when I read outloud.
who cares if he has an accent, at least he knows another language, i only know 3 and the 4th is coming and i don't care if i have an accent as long as they understand me, of course those who criticize are american, 99% of them only know english
Your videos are so inspiring to me. I love learning about different cultures and really immersing myself in the food and music and all of that but learning another language is so hard for me. I know Spanish is apparently one of the easiest and I got lost in trying to learn that. I’m from California so my accent is very much “the valley” kind of lazy English I think lol but I’m afraid I can’t master a different accent. I can’t roll my r’s and the different sounds that are made with different languages are so tough for me
You're absolutely right about who was giving him the grief. Now as an American who speaks Spanish, mispronounciation can make me twitch (words like llama or paella come to mind) but I stopped being critical when I said " Nee how" to an American coworker who had frequented China & he told me that I just needed to keep my mouth shut. I was so taken aback & embarrassed that I never tried to learn anything else
Very cool! I admire your ability with languages! My family is Canadian French. My two daughters minored in French in college, with my oldest actually spending 6 months in Paris. I would so love to be able to pick up that language at some point!
This is a really helpful perspective to take. Americans have developed an idea that many things that would be considered offensive to say to a non white male is okay to say to a white male, this isn’t true. It’s a basic principle: treat people of all walks with respect and look for the good in people and celebrate what they do well. Just because an insult doesn’t have a history of oppression that could be attached to it, DOES NOT make it okay to say and frankly it’s embarrassing having to tell adults this in 2022. Not a fan of Zucc but I always love to see people learning new languages!
Very well-said. It feels odd when someone openly pronounces some sort of generalized hatred, whether it's men, white people, cis-gendered people, etc. and don't recognize that they're a part of the problem. Vilification is far too easy of a trap to fall into, and while I appreciate herd-mentality and the illusion of justification can make it hard to objectively judge one's self, we can definitely improve. :) As you said, always great to see people learning new languages, however!
I destroy a few languages and find enormous encouragement watching many of your videos. Thank you. My youngest daughter speaks 4 languages well and is working on two others. She is twelve. She is an inspiration to me, I find myself elevated and humbled in my language pursuits. Thank you again for your videos…
As someone who has been told he speaks French like a 4 year old. I take it as a compliment, having a toddler myself. Because I certainly don’t feel as confident speaking it as she does lol
I think the effort he put into learning the language is amazing! For some of us learning another language at the beginning is hard and we have a lot of errors but if you keep on trying you will get better at it! I think he is amazing!
Great video Xiaoma! BTW, I have never heard anyone saying "FuJianese". The dialect from FuJian province is commonly referred to as Hokkien. 福建话 、闽南语 mean the same thing. Taiwanese usually call a localised version of Hokkien Tai-yu 台语. I will not be surprised if you knew this already, I am just pointing it out.
