Offending an imaginary “god” is of no more consequence than offending Santa, the Tooth Fairy or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Breaking my nation’s laws would mean the end of my career, which I love. Sins aren’t even mentioned in our statutes, far less defined, making them an irrelevance.
He makes a very good point about what sin is and separation of church and state. In reality not having compassion and caring for queer people is equally as much of a sin. To hate sinners is against gods will, because in a way we are all sinners. We need to treat each other with compassion
Actually since God appoints the leaders no matter what kind of a person they may be the decision to turn it as a crime to make people aware of what's wrong and unnatural isn't a bad thing. It's just saving people from falling into this unnatural behaviour. We're all sinners yes and hypocrites as well.
Catholics are mostly not gay, this is why: 1) The Church condemns homosexual acts, society and other churches do not 2) If people experience gay attraction, that means they have a desire to act out homosexual acts 3) All other parts of society would accept them if they acted out homosexually 4) Thus, if catholics have a desire to lead a gay lifestyle, it is easiest to leave the church 5) Thus, they will leave the church XD
@@jorsalaheim8760 lol, what I lie.. the city I live in we have Catholic school and public.. I attended the public...the Catholic school was K - 8 then for high-school they put them into the public system. My classmates in k-8 were innocent non alcohol consuming, non gay accepting classmates.. that was until they were mixed in with the Catholic kids the freshman year that was the kids who had the house parties and lead others to consume alcohol and always grabbing one another's junk.. don't tell me the church doesnt breed these freaks
In the U.S. there are things 40 year-olds cannot consent to do to themself as it's a crime, but Francis has an agenda, there are bishops targeted by this, and he's muddying the waters by saying sodomy is "part of the human condition." Would he say suicide should also not be a crime? No, he wouldn't, even though it's "part of the human condition" and the church teaches it's also sin. Reason being, he is slow-walking the church to the left and the church won't make a leap to that.
He makes a point here. It’s not criminal, especially in my opinion, but is still seen as a sin. There should be a clear distinction between crime and sin.
Look crime is punishable by law but what about sin? Everyone shall taste death, you won't live forever and there's a creator who's going to judge His creation when they die. So , sin is punishable by God . Think about it and reason
Definitely! There should be a clear distinction between SLIPPING IT IN, and SHOVING IT IN Please ask your parents how they did it: Your father will clarify the SIN Your mother will clarify the CRIME The Pope will say he liked the SIN But he won't stand the CRIME AMEN! BTW: Francis didn't like the taste...
I listened to man instead of God my whole life they always said homosexuality is not in the Bible or it’s man and child or it’s just love. I was bisexual for 18 years I’m 23 now and I always thought I was born this way until I started questioning if it was okay. It was always in the back of my mind when I was with the same gender and God showed me it wasn’t okay, the reason I like the same gender was because of sexual abuse from the same gender I was 6 and she was my teacher. That is what created me gay and perverted my mind. Jesus will not shame you he loves you all equally so much. He just wants to help you and save you turn to him before it’s too late when he comes back he won’t be merciful anymore. Jesus delivered me from homosexuality, video game addiction, depression, self harm, gay relationship, fear etc… he can to you too. Stop listening to man and start listening and following God read his word (the Bible) and see for yourself or just talk to him and he will show you anything and help you with anything.
@@meria2082 when two people are together it’s supposed to be a man and a woman. That’s how God created it from the very beginning. He specifically says that marriage is only for a man and woman and they will be become one flesh. It makes it clear throughout the whole Bible that when there is a relationship it’s only supposed to be with man and woman. Look at what happened with Sodom and gommorah. God rained down sulfur and fire on them. Not only that but it says in the Bible 13 times that homosexuality is an abomination and that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Also look at our bodies. It’s made for the opposite sex. If a man and a man were to be together , what would their sperm be looking for? A woman’s egg. That’s why only too the woman can be pregnant only if she has sex with the opposite sex.
@@meria2082it’s a slap in the face to creation, it leads to death (instead of life) since naturally gays cannot procreate, it disrespects the value of evolution and the untangling of the soul’s boundness to the human condition and ascension towards purity, i could keep going on why it is named as the hardest sin to overcome and the worst to fall into (sexual perversion)
Francis is playing games and muddying the waters when he said it was "part of the human condition." He targeted bishops he doesn't like and who are also against suIcIdE which is also part of the "human condition", a crime, and a sin, but he knows the church isn't ready to leap that fast to the left so he'll try to slow-walk the church with this while he also continues to ignore the things Fr James Martin promotes along with ignoring the German "Catholic" bishops who promote do whatever you want.
People need a serious education on what defines an “unnatural behavior.” Any, and I mean any behavior an animal does, unprovoked, is natural. If a lion decides on its own to eat cabbage, that is a natural behavior. If a bird decides never to fly again and instead tries to swim, that is a natural behavior. Now, an unnatural behavior would be an organism being prompted to do something. Like an animal being forced to perform in a circus. Unnatural behavior. Or orcas performing at seaworld, unnatural behavior. . So a person being homosexual, indeed, is a natural behavior. (Also observed across the animal kingdom) If a straight person was being forced to be gay, unnatural behavior. This is biology 101.
@@facundosaavedra760 If a natural being does something that comes to them naturally then its a natural behavior, homosexual behavior is seen in animals, animals are natural, homosexuality is natural.
The pope should not concern himself with crimes. That's what the state is for. He should concern himself in matters of sins of the souls that are offensive to God. Homosexuality has not been a crime in over half a century in most countries. But it's still a grave sin to act on it, just like it's a sin to fornicate, which is sex outside marriage.
From a human standpoint, it should be neither a "sin" nor a crime. Why would being gay be sinful in the sight of the "almighty" god, but slavery is not?
Dana, you sound like the pharisees condemning Jesus for being the one true god. The pope is urging people to understand that it is not your job to condemn or judge. In fact, You should turn your head, an worry for you own sins.
Absolutely. This is the focus of the Law. Sexual sin is paltry compared to hating one’s neighbor. Curious how all the right wingers have always been so focused on others’ sexual sins while depriving the widow and orphan.
@metapolitikgedanken612 We must give him the benefit of the doubt until we see a priest marrying same sex couples in sacrament. That'll be the time the end will come. Would you rather a Pope who is telling his followers who by the way make up the largest religion in the world to be peaceful and accept homosexuals or spread messages like other religions of hate and killing of such people? We must understand why the Pope has taken this stance.
@@outofthefoxootf979 The benefit of the doubt applies at court cases when the evidence isn't strong. In serious business matter with high risk at stake, there is no benefit of the doubt. There needs to be clarity that the person means what it says, will provide what it says and doesn't look for backdoor excuses afterwards. And yes. I predict that the Catholic Church will revise its stance on Same-Sex-Marriage (an oxymoron). The smaller churches did it as well, but they are smaller and less rigid than the Catholic cluster of Cults. And it includes churches that previously were more conservative than the Catholics. It may however lead to further split within the Catholic camp. Ultimately most will however align with the globalitarian world-religion as predicted in the bible. And they will join the Jews in persecuting Christians by all means of the book. Am I negative? No, I have more confidence than before, because it affirms the reliability of prophesy in scripture.
The Pope is crucifying Christ and so are all those who follow him!! Seems all revelations are coming true. I will choose to hold tight to God through Christ Jesus. Not the forruption of man.He has been crucified before!!
Idolatry and coveting your buddy's wife are legal too, still doesn't mean they should be practiced regularly and normalized. But what do I know? I'm not a Catholic, or a practitioner of any other form of heathen Babylon secret religion - just a humble Christian believer in the Word.
@@commonsense504 Well, let’s go through some English then shall we and find out? Within your context, both idolatry and to covert revers to selfish behavior that in both cases directly contradict already existing behavior. In the case of idolatry one would already have a god within your context, therefore by worshiping another idol one would be dishonest to both themselves and their god. In the context to covet, be it your neighbors wife or stuff, both suggest a desire to engage in dishonest behavior… and to covet another’s wife is simply, blatantly, dishonest. To be homosexual simply means you are attracted to your own sex… there’s no harm being done to anybody anywhere, no negative intentions, just people trying to express their love.
I think what Pope Francis is saying is that it is a sin but not a crime. If it is a crime then all sin should be punishable by the law. What should be punishable by law in all circumstances is sexual abuse in children and any behaviour that promotes those intentions or behaviours.
Jesus never told us to condemn same sex love. I follow JESUS. Not man. RECENT DISCOVERY OF THE MISTRANSLATION OF HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE BIBLE The discovery in the early 1950s of the Dead Sea Scrolls has led to reevaluation of text in the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls are the actual 950 manuscripts of the original text of the Bible. To date, this is the closest proof we have of the original text. Most of what we relied on before was copies of copies of copies and interpretations sent down through the centuries. “The NRSV Updated Edition sets out to be the most literal translation of the Bible available to date with its clear use of unambiguous and unbiased language. The new version gives English Bible readers access to the most meticulously researched, rigorously reviewed, and faithfully accurate translation on the market done by dozens of Biblical Scholars. It is also the most ecumenical Bible with acceptance by Christian churches of Protestant, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, African American, and Evangelical traditions.” To prevent any claim of bias, each book in the Bible was assigned a different group of biblical scholars. If the entire group agreed that there needed to be corrections, it was sent to the editorial board where it could be either rejected, excepted, or modified. Therefore, being put through a very strenuous process.
The Bible was written in Greek . Jesus and his disciples and ANY eyewitness spoke Aramaic...... SO WHO WROTE THE NEW TESTAMENT??????? IN GREEK?????? There are very large inaccuracies from translation to translation...Jesus never spoke on Homosexuality. Homosexuality is not rape ....Christians know how to hide their own perversions in plain sight.
Barry Goldwater, Speech in the US Senate Sept. 16, 1981(He was considered TOO far to the radical right) "The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they're gay. You don't have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay.""Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the (Republican) party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem." Family Values.........NOT
So what about discrimination of god fearing people.I think more people have died in this world for that , then being gay.There are also more people in history that have died all over the world. Now their going after all areas ,as in schools government ,free speech .((why are they treated us like second class people.))there trying to make what we the people believe against the law. What we belive about God is are right .If you people get your way it will be against the law to belive in god, except with government approval. That is called a dictatorship. What's next chopping children up after grooming them into what ever they want.Oh ya that's already happening. 🤔
@Strawberry Fox So you think that giving children drugs ,that will prevent them from ever having children and chopping them up is natural and good family values. Your the one with problems
I belive they are playing good cop bad cop .They are together on what's happening.Thats how they herd people around .That's how they bring in new laws,and change old ones .They want division, divide and conquer. Both the left and the right are in CAHOOTS. THERE PLAYING YOU ! Have you ever head the saying Order out of chaos. And that goes for all governments, why do you think the u.n. and others meet in private. Lol if they had nothing to hide
No offense, but have you looked around? If you're looking for mistakes it's not difficult to find them. Probably best not to look for them in the first place. That's libertarian. Not liberal.
@@roberthook9235 yes but children are forced to be brought up in it. They are forced to believe that their feelings are sinful and shameful. Because of that, I'll never stop speaking out against Catholic hate.
He says it's not a crime, but it is a sin and a condition?! really?! smh .... before trying to manipulate the world, teach your own priests molesting and killing is a sin and a crime.🤷
@@hansi5124 Well, the fight shouldn't be just to make it to the headlines. For such a large congregation, and given how widespread the church is, whatever he did was insufficient to undo the corruption or ill practices that still exist. There are too many victims out there who are unable to seek justice, who have been victim-shamed for speaking up and even have been killed. Now, that is disrespectful.
It is a crime against humanity, religion, and God's creations. Crime - ''an action or activity that, although not illegal, is considered to be evil, shameful, or wrong.'' Evil, shameful, or wrong actions should be completely illegal.
For a minute there I thought we'd turned a corner 😞 Oh dear. I am Catholic. My children are catholic. One is transgender, the other is gay. I love them unconditionally. They are my world. We must, as a faith move on and start embracing all our parishioners. I believe even Pope Francis would be willing to move forward but sadly there are many in the Vatican that would be against such change. So what do we do? Do we wait until NO-ONE comes to Mass on a Sunday? Do we wait until we have no-one wanting to become a Priest? It is time to change - Remember... The Kingdom of God is inside you and all around you Not in a mansion of wood and stone Split a piece of wood and I am there Lift a stone and you will find me.
Since one is transgernder and one is gay, they have both turned their backs on God, and its a sign that you have failed them in some way. We need a stronger more traditional church, not a more modern one. It is better that there be no churches than there be apostatic churches so that people can "feel good"
So did Jesus give you the authority to change scripture? Such a weird statement you people make. If the Bible is the word of God and divinely inspired men, how can you or anyone change it?
Homosexuality is not a choice. Did you have to choose to like girls or did one day "BING", you liked girls....??????? you don't just change who you are attracted too. Your not suppose to eat pork or shell fish either..
dressing in clothes of different fabrics, eating vegetables from the same soil, working on Saturdays and Sundays and approaching the altar having vision problems are also sins according to the bible. But we only take what is most comfortable for you
@Shouni Hillys Great. Now be sure to put God in his place about it when the day of your upcoming appointment with him comes. Tell him how it's gunna be.
is it not also a sin to be hateful to other people you hypocrites did god not say you should love all? you are just as much sinners as the gays if you look down upon them with hate
"Pope Francis says gay acts are a sin " According to the Bible, these are also sins: - eating pork - eating shellfish - wearing clothing made of more than one type of material
thats an old testament, you need to differe what no longer applies since the perfect sacrife on the cross through Jesus was given. We are cleansed and saved through the faith in him. not through the deeds but through faith
@@Thanya569 So you are saying the god of the Bible was too stupid to hand down commandments ( 613 in total) that would be good at all times and within all cultures. And you are obviously either ignoring or are not aware that Jesus said all the old laws are still in effect and cannot be changed one iota until all things have come to pass and heaven & earth have passed away. Btw the new testament says slavery is OK.
@@cnault3244 Arguments debunked a lot of times. Just search for responses on youtube or even tiktok. The covenant with the people of Isreal was a covenant made WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, the old testament itseld talks about a coming new covenant, which is established in Jesus Chriat as the New testament tells us. "Christiana can't eat pork", wrong, Jesus declares all foods clean and Paul confirms it repeats it indirectly with his dream about gentiles being clean (the gentiles have been made clean just as the foods have been made clean). The law was fulfilled by Jesus, we are not required to follow it. The new testament doesn't say that slavery is ok, it tells slaves to obey its owners. What should have Paul said? "Slaves, rebel to your owners!" ? Obviously not, if you want you can dig deeper in the topic of slavery alone, I suggest the creator Inspiring philosophy
islam is the only true religion now that isn't changed. due to the work of the devil. society now are lost and people losing track and purpose. the Christianity nowadays changing its core every day. where being gay is 100% not allowed. it is now being seen as acceptable in religion. i pray for our kids...
islam is the only true religion now that isn't changed. due to the work of the devil. society now are lost and people losing track and purpose. the Christianity nowadays changing its core every day. where being gay is 100% not allowed. it is now being seen as acceptable in religion. i pray for our kids...
@@emmanuelbustos2693 he should not involve himself in this kind of interview and topic.this is like validating and agreeing to the acts itself. he is succumbing himself to the politics. a wrong is a wrong whether it is a crime or a sins.
Woult it be okay to make it homosexuality illegal in a country? Punishable by death as the Old Testament says? Being rude to someone is a crime in Gods eyes as well. Should it be it illegal as well? There's a clear distinction between sin and crime. The pope condemned the sin of homosexuality many times before. But he doesnt condemn the sinners. You are a sinner too. Let's be humble and loving to each other. Let's pray for those who we think need prayers
He is totally lost. Prob fighting for his own trangressions as their is so much in the catholic church and others. You cannot hide from God. He is bringing it out in the open!! Too much has been covered up and hidden behind closed doors!!
Only God can judge me but not you. All I want is a blessing because I’m a person. I know what is a sin, so do you. It clearly that the approval is not about a relationship.
He is right homosexuality is not a crime and as they said. I've read some reports of people talking about homosexuality within Christianity itself. I've heard people say that all sin to the same. That is simply not true either God specifically called homosexuality an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 if man also lie with mankind as he liveth with a woman,both of them have committed abomination. They shall surly be put to death.their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 18:22 thou shalt not lie with mankind as it is abomination
He can't determine or change any of God's natural sins for us. He can't take away a sin and add what he thinks or wants that's evil! The pope is trying to pass the people on a path to the Devil!
The pope says its a sin but we shouldnt hate them. Even the bible says love ur enime”. The pope mention its a sin but its not a crime. As a christian i think he have a point its a sin but if u love the same-sex u cant just stop loving. But u should maybe not date a same-sex and stuff just for gods will but u cant change the feeling.
@@idkidgf6649 I listened to man instead of God my whole life they always said homosexuality is not in the Bible or it’s man and child or it’s just love. I was bisexual for 18 years I’m 23 now and I always thought I was born this way until I started questioning if it was okay. It was always in the back of my mind when I was with the same gender and God showed me it wasn’t okay, the reason I like the same gender was because of sexual abuse from the same gender I was 6 and she was my teacher. That is what created me gay and perverted my mind. Jesus will not shame you he loves you all equally so much. He just wants to help you and save you turn to him before it’s too late when he comes back he won’t be merciful anymore. Jesus delivered me from homosexuality, video game addiction, depression, self harm, gay relationship, fear etc… he can to you too. Stop listening to man and start listening and following God read his word (the Bible) and see for yourself or just talk to him and he will show you anything and help you with anything.
@@troyb.4101 a large number of catholic monks, priests and nuns were placed in concentration camps for their beliefs actually. S. Pope John Paul II lived in Poland during the occupation and survived. But please focus on one facet of history during WWII that paints Catholicism as negative.
Well, I hope not. We are already targeted for a lot of vandalism and antagonism from media, and people. Priests and nuns around the world are being killed for their faith currently and have been in the past. However, regardless of how media and public opinion try, there will always be Catholics, whether they will be martyred or not, depends on the society they live.
Finally, as an atheist I'm delighted that the church isn't being hypocrites... It is clear that their God and the bible dictates that homosexuality is sa sin, both direct and indirect...
Why you need pope, giving too much money or attention, he is not chosen by God. YOU PRAY AND REPENT DIRECTLY TO GOD. He is all-hearing and all-knowing.
No it's full of corruption, of homosexuality and it's being exsposed through this Pope. Jesus said all will be uncovered in the last days!! But keep your eyes on.our Lord!!! Woe to those who call evil good!!!😢
Daniel:7.25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.
"God loves homosexuals, We love homosexuals. It is homosexuality that we are against" - great point made by an American Baptist pastor I forgot his name
What’s true in fact is that The Father hates abomination. Homosexuality is an abomination. Please don’t mistake HIS WORD for our own opinions. This will lead people to hell. Matthew 5:19 “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” Let’s not forget a conversation being had in Heaven doesn’t mean that all parties will be present. Satan is a big subject of conversation I’m certain in Heaven but I’m also certain he’s not exactly there.
@@meria2082 Hebrew definition. ABOMINATION: Transliteration : tô'êbah tô'êbah Pronunciation: {to-ay-baw'} to-ay-baw' Definition: Feminine active participle of H8581 ; properly something disgusting ({morally}) that {is} (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol: - abominable ({custom} {thing}) abomination. KJV Usage: abomination; (113x), abominable thing; (2x), abominable;(2x). Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” This is the word of God. Not my own. If God “Ahba The Father” says something is disgusting; it’s not really up to us to “think our way out” of what’s simple already been described. If we’re being called HIS children choosing not to agree to obedience just as a child, would also be called being rebellious. 1 Samuel 15:23 “For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.” So we can only pick one of two choices, “our will” or the will of The Father. Those who chose to “do art thou wilt ” are already put into an Antichrist anti-biblical category & are usually those who are also ok with the “homosexual” lifestyle trying to normalize the unnatural & call just plain sin “nature”. If you or someone you love is being tested in this life with this sin.. just rebuke it & repent. I understand it’s not an easy thing but dedicate your life to HIM, pray, fast & fight against any thoughts and do not act upon anything that you now know that God hates. We’re all here to be sorted & tested against many demonic powers trying to break our connection to The Father. Simply bc “they” “the fallen” can not & will not ever be able to enter back into HIS KINGDOM; their whole agenda is to take those of us with a chance to get there, totally away but by our own doings in total consent to the “sins” we agree to commit. No matter what the degree of sin no willing sinner will ever sit at The table with The Father. We’re all invited but “sin” isn’t exactly negotiable.
Clearly you haven't. Its a sin to engage in homosexual acts. Not all sins should be crimes. Homosexuality is a natural thing, and many people indulge in sin, which is wrong, but who are we to punish them? we are all sinful, so we should not punish them but give them the ability to repent
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12) "FREEDOM" is the delusion that justifies desire in the unrighteousness. "Pope" Francis is one of many leaders that believes in this "FREEDOM".
Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds" (vv. 14-15)
'Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.'
Blessing anyone is not a sin, but it will be a sin when we know from the beginning that those who want to be blessed will do things that are against God's will.
if you're following leviticus make sure you aren't eating pork or shrimp, or working on saturday, or masturb*ting, or wearing polyester, or getting divorce. If you don't stand with those firm I guess you are hypocrite christian who pretends to be holier than thou' but hypocritcally judging others
@@lolololgii754 Jesus declared all foods clean, the Sabbath is Sunday and that only relates to Jews, polyester is not forbidden, divorce is only permitted for sexual immorality.
I have never had the slightest interest in having sexual relations with any man. My hetero girlfriends regularly complain about the sexual incompetence of the average man. I chose wisely and married another woman.
Hate the sin but not the sinner. But if you want to be part of the Church you have to repent and try your best not to continue in sin. We're all sinners called to holiness - gay or straight.
If there really is a god then why would he/she/it create people who are gay and then demand that they not be gay. Pretty awful for a supposed loving deity to do. You know what else is a sin, eating shellfish and wearing clothing of different fabrics.
@@strawberryfox8819 It's simple. To live is to suffer and die. With the freedom to choose and change comes the price of suffering and death. The only way for perfection to exist is to be static without change or possibility. God's perfect, but humans and animals are not gods, nor are they perfect. Thus, animals that are part of this universe must all experience these things in the ways they do according to their biological makeup.
These are Sign if times for humans surviving on this planet earth...A holy Father declaring that it's not a crime, but it's a sin is regrettable, I guess it's both a soft crime n sin too...
Abortion isn't a crime in many places either, nor is hating God, But scripture has instruction in both the old and new testament about denying the Holy Spirit and homosexuality. Confusing charity with sin is abhorrent.
Nope. He is a living heresy and he is clearly lukewarm. All popes are heresy itself, claiming to be Christ or God on earth. How dare they. Jesus was right, romans will never believe unless they see a miracle happen before their eyes.
@@latter-daysaintbatman2679 Do popes think they are divinities? it is clear that you do not know what you are talking about, the only heretics are the protestants, you wrote your bible as it suits you because you were jealous that the spiritual power that christ granted to peter was concentrated in Rome, go back to sleep
No, he's not saying it's a sin. You seem to have no concept of prebuttal in rhetorical argumentation and also lack an interpreter who can convey nuance. He is feigning an argument between two people. Look up "procatalepsis." He is acting out two sides of an argument -- the opposition (turning, facing the other direction) is saying "it's a sin" and the reply is "okay then, it's a sin, and lacking charity is a sin, so how about that, how are you scoring on the sin count?"
@@horticasey Would you torture a dog forever for messing in the house? Even humans have decides that torture, even for 10 minutes is cruel and unusual. Torture for eternity? That’s incomprehensibly sick.
REMEMBER what Jesus said Luke 6:37 Don’t condemn and you will not be condemned. Pope Francis DOESN’T allow same-sex marriage, please don’t misunderstand that.❤.we MUST PRAY for them instead of condemn them. We must help them to come back to Jesus. WE MUST BLESS INSTEAD OF CONDEMN. Mark 12:30-31 Love your neighbor as yourself❤️ John 8:7 If anyone is without sin, let him be the first to thrown a stone at her. Jesus died for all of us He paid for all ours sins, He didn’t make a distinction like if you are homosexual you don’t be safe. Blessing doesn’t mean we are agree with your decision It means we can’t condemn ,if you repent God is waiting for you.
Many will disagree with the Pope on the matter gayism is a sin but not a crime. What is sin and what is crime. Both sin and crime are considered to be wrong actions among certain groups of people in the societies. What is sin to one group of people may not be sin to another group of people. And what is crime to one group of people may not be a crime to another group of people. Sin and crime are determined by the laws the regulate the live of the people in a particular society according to their faith and existing location. For instance, it is a sin for a Catholic man anywhere to live with a woman if they have not married in the church. This same act is not a sin for some other Christians everywhere. Again it is a crime for a man in America and many other places to marry to two or more women. This same act may not be a crime in Saudi Arabia and other Muslim nations. Hence gayism is a sin and crime in some societies, even though it is not so in all societies. Gayism is a sin in a Catholic Church and in other religions. it is also a crime in many countries according to their constitutions. We can, however, also say that it is neither a crime nor sin to some others. it all depends on who you are and where you are. As a Pope who is a leader of the Catholic World, gayism is a sin for the Pope. I do not, however, know by which constitution or Canon Law by which he claims gayism is not a crime.
U r right.. Its a sin but being crime its depends on which country and what does the law of the country say.. So pope has right to generalise that its not a crime..
That's what Qoran said about homosexuality in Surat Nisa verse 16 """"And the two men among you who commit this sin (publicly)-discipline them. If they repent and mend their ways, relieve them. Surely Allah is ever Accepting of Repentance, Most Merciful"""
@@1glassMilk mybe but the Qoran just said the judgment If two men had sex publicly and witnessed by 4 people so people should scold them with words but not killing them or harm them as the Bible said . But the secret sex he had no judgment and it's between the person and God . And if homosexuality is not a choice as many gays claim so surly God is just and Merciful and he will never judge you on thing that you're not responsible for
Corinthians 11:14-15 and no marvel,for satun himself is transformed into an angle of light ,for it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as ministers of righteousness who end shall be according to their works. Matthew 7:14 enter through the narrow gate ,for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction and many enter through it.Straight is the road and narrow the gate which leadeth unto life ,and few there are that find it.. act 20:30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things to draw away the deciples after them.
Dana? Are you divorced? Is your mother and father separated? Because divorce is a twisted unholy act. Yet you still judge, as god commands his children to not do. Pray harder Dana, and let others short comings be there own. And yours belong to you.
@@leanablaze4487 not my words but gods.we all have sin .that's why God came.Not one person has been able to live a sinless life but gods only begotten son .And he did that for us ,as a perfect sacrifice. 🥰. With out his death he could not rise into glory ,and leave the door open for us. If you have his words in you ,he's in you.
Homosexual sex is an evil “deserving of death” from God, as globally and scripturally warned against, in His own prophetic words. (Romans 1: 26-32; Jude 7,14,15) Yet, the past 9 years or so have seen the Satanic godless persons of this world well-up and burst-forth, in inexcusable and unconscionable evils - ever since they became emboldened in their evil, by the as-if “official” re-establishment of So dom and go mo rrah on earth, only on a much wider scale. They have since burst-forth, in every sort of evil and demonic crime against God and humanity and violation against the God-given human rights of others, etc. also just as prophesied in type. They have spiritually diseased themselves. They have developed “a disapproved mental state”, which allows them to bypass their inborn consciences, so as to work evils of all kinds aggressively. They are destroying lives and destroying human society, as they keep on choosing to bow-to and serve Satan the Liar and man slayer. Their partaking in any church of Satan’s world empire of all God-condemned and God-hated false religions of “Babylon the Great”, which demonically teach, promote, and “defend” the worst of evils, along with blasphemy of God - will only further alienate them from God and cause His Armageddon punishment to reign down upon them. Soon. Revelation chapters 17 and 18.
Saint Teresa of Avila was sent to Hell by God and was returned to this life . She was asked what Hell was like . Her answer was : " You will be on fire and torn to pieces . " Saint Teresa admitted she was a sinner in her life and repented after her visit to Hell .
John 3:4 sin is the transgression of the law.romans 6:23 sin leads to death. Numbers 23:19 our father in heaven is not man,that he should lie,or a son of man ,that he should change his mind.has he said ,and will not do ,or has he spoken and will not fulfilling?
@Dots Dot revelation 20:11-15 then I saw a great white throne ,and him who was seated on it ,from his presence earth and the sky fled away and no place was found for Them ,and I saw the dead great and small standing before the throne ,and the books were opened....
This pope is so happy with homosexuals. Because, he says, they are not commiting a crime, only a sin. Unbelibable! A pope is focusing in something that does not belong but to judges, lawyers and so on. Does Francis approve sin? Catholics know sin can not be blessed.
sin is a crime against God, that is basically what a sin is. The Bible describes sin as an offense against god, The Bible says that sin is lawlessness, and and offense against the law of god. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death.
There is zero evidence that “gods” exist and they most certainly make no laws anywhere in the civilised world. The bible is nothing more than a deeply ignorant work of fiction. Relying on anything it says is very much a fool’s errand.
@@oswaldcobblepot502 Is there a god? Should there be a god? Religion in my experience causes people to hate each other. If everyone could stop judging each other, and get along.
Condemnations of divorce, which had been a regular feature in the 1970s, ceased almost entirely after 1980. Jesus was much clearer on that issue than he was about homosexuality, about which he said nothing whatsoever. “Judge not, that ye be not judged.”
@@terryreynolds200 Yes, I follow the Gospels of Jesus' own words, not some Genesis parable or anything. The OT are stories not meant to be taken literally, and they are explained and fall apart quite easily. Unless there were absolutely no babies or toddlers anywhere in S/G, who are innocent, than its lack of one good soul is nonsense, though we already have the family who took the angel in, they're obviously good, too. For Moses small world, a regional flood would be a "world" flood for them, and they'd only take animals they knew of right then.
I understand what people are saying here but they're missing Francis's point entirely. Firstly, he's certainly not ENCOURAGING homosexuality. Secondly, he's saying yes it's sin, which is always bad in the eyes of God, but he's saying that there are so many other sins of the same "harmless" nature that the same people who condemn homosexuality so badly, commit themselves. It's the sort of hypocrisy Jesus himself would point out, and indeed has.
Hé will never help them as hé created m'en and women. And everything around us IS so in thé nature..( mâle and female). Hé punished severely thé loth tribu for that. This man ( thé pope) will regret what hé says.. He'd father please God than any person who support gays...
A lot of people here are using the Bible and religion to justify their disapproval of both the Pope and homosexuality. That is a double edged sword, as the Bible, and all of its versions, were written man. In fact many different men over the course of centuries. And religion was created and organized by man to focus on the Bible’s teachings in relation to their own values and belief systems. Therefor both the Bible and religion are ideologies (or idols) created by man and not God, thus making them a Golden Calf. As such, using the Bible to validate your stand, condemns you by that very same Bible. Unless of course you are one of those who pick and choose which teachings of the Bible are the word of God and which we can just let go of.
Not a single sentence you wrote is true; and for your devious (though transparent) attempts to twist and exploit God's words, to try to present them as being against themselves, and so therefore invalid, your post is best described as Satanic - of the same nature as when Satan knawed at Jesus Christ, exploiting Scripture bits, out of context and misapplied, in attempt to goad the Son of God into joining him in inexcusable and debased evil. Your post above is of grotesque and evil blasphemy. It demonstrates absolutely NO scriptural understanding whatsoever - neither to their content of the words of God; nor their history, origin, or nature. In attempt to discredit the Holy Spirit-backed words of Jehovah the Creator and Universal Sovereign God; you have failed and you have sinned - violated Him. God's own words were penned down for Him by some 40 faithful men, over a period of about 1400 years. They include the spiritually-significant history of man, in truth, without myth, from "in the beginning" - as God had Moses write of this history of man in retrospect. All of these scriptural writings were penned-down under the influence and oversight of Jehovah God Himself. Further, Jehovah has also overseen and made sure of the actual holy canon of His words, and the preservation of them, down to this day - all of this is to ensure that His purposes, regarding the life-vital messages He has sent, to mankind, are seen through to completion. Jehovah always carries through His purposes. That's even what His own holy name, as the Creator, with unlimited power, means: "He Causes to Become." There exist today many thousands of manuscripts, pieces, and fragments of manuscripts of the Holy Scriptures, from around the world, even from the third century B.C.E. on, which have been used for comparative analysis, confirming that the word of God - as found in the literal translations used today - has remained essentially unchanged. The most accurate Bible translation, the NWT 1984 Study Edition, draws from the biggest pool of the available manuscripts, pieces and fragments - including the oldest ones of them; and also lists variations in renderings/ wordage as footnotes. Among the literal translations in use today; less than 1/10,000 of the wordage is seriously debated, and those are mostly issues with spelling or grammar. So, unlike the prophesied in type enemies of God and haters of His words wish; just as Jehovah promised, "the word of God remains forever." (1Peter 1: 25) Moreover, unlike lying extortionists (usually wantonly lacking scriptural understanding) claim; the Holy Scriptures are miraculously intraharmonious. The world's only one TRUE religion - only as one should honestly and logically expect - is the one global religion of persons who actually do worship and obey Jehovah the Creator and Universal Sovereign as their One and only God; and who actually regard and obey HIS words as being the spiritual Authority for mankind: God's own Holy Spirit (active force of God)-backed scriptural words and standards form the world's only one true religion, based on the scriptural teachings, requirements, and terms of acceptable worship, from God Himself. Jehovah the Creator is NOT "a god of confusion", like Satan is. Jehovah does NOT teach, entertain, or accept multiple "truths" about Himself and His globally-given, scriptural standards for human beings. God also does not accept spiritual lies and teachings or practices of Satanism/ demonism in with true worship of Himself. Jehovah's own holy standards of pure worship of Him include that persons MUST worship Him "with spirit and truth", just like His Son, Jesus Christ, clearly taught the world, along with the life-vital fact that Jehovah's own words "ARE TRUTH". (John 4: 24; 17:17) It will soon mean everlasting life or everlasting death - come Armageddon Day from Jehovah, soon - whether individuals choose to learn God's own words and obey them, or not. (John 17: 3); whether persons choose to live in obedience and loyalty to their Maker; or else be evil-practicing and evil-supporting lovers of demonic lies - which support the God-condemned evil practices and agendas they desire - and willing slaves of Satan the Liar and manslayer. Its all coming to a head, soon.
@@bakedbeans5494 It's still written by men who had no qualms about marrying children, so take their ability to write God's words with a big grain of salt. Men make mistakes, very often actually. Could be that God gave them his words and they never wrote them down correctly because of their own sin. I mean, are you not suspicious that pedophelia is never listed as a sin?
@@strawberryfox8819 Are you mentally insane? The Bible was written by prophets and the four Evangelists. Check your facts instead of relying on stigma.
We all carry a cross (or more) in this world. For Some of us the cross is about yielding easily to the flesh. It is a daily struggle. Please pray for us that we may be strong against temptations and remain chaste, whether single or married. Thank you.
@@1glassMilk I agree. Just like I am married to a wonderful woman, but I am still attracted to other women. It is a natural thing. However, the right thing to do is to engage on natural desires in the proper context and environment. Say, eating. Excessive or lack of eating is unhealthy. Consuming non-nutritious meals can be harmful; eating while driving could be dangerous; eating in a rush is not beneficial nor enjoyable. I could go on and on...
@@1glassMilk Friend, each of us have a need and desire to know God one way or another. Once we open our hearts and minds to him, we should love him with all our heart, mind, and soul. Everybody else comes second. If we do not do this, we will not be able to recognize that special partner that he has created for us. Sometimes God will call some to remain celibate for life. That may seem unfair, but it is another dimension of putting God first.
What man woman or child has the means to take away any word, letter, or stroke from the Law of God. Who is the one who may justify if God’s word is for our benefit or for our destruction. Who has the authority to limit the truth that must be known for our very endurance on the pathway of eternal life, should one choose to search for it. To those who sit with authority with the words of Jesus Christ and have annulled the least of his commandments, and teach others to do the same; Repent for this storm will soon be over, but your actions will not protect you from the remainder of the destruction these storms will bring; nor will your actions remain hidden in the dark. Do not think the devil has no children that belong to him, nor think the number of his children is not a great deal bigger than the children who decided to love God, despite the overwhelming numbers that move against him. To those who hear and see the harassment against those in the homosexual community, and their supporters; by those who show hatred because of their actions. Who question the hand of a loving God who have their actions deemed evil by the law, and wish to offer the homosexual community something healthy, that is not judgment, even if many will judge you anyway because choosing homosexuality is still against the law and love of God. Hear and understand Sex isn’t something that will last forever. It is a burden every body must bear for awhile, and while there are healthy ways to practice it while we are here on earth, between a man and his wife, there are unhealthy ways as well. When the leaders of the world heard the growing cries of persecution the homosexuality community faced, they began to make things worst by taking away the truth of Homosexualtuy. Even Barack Obama, who wanted to prove the capability of African Americans to lead, took an evil path and said one should not be judged for who they choose to love. But it is because you love those who are near you, that you give them what is best for them, even though it is hard. And despite the difficulty, you may do so with a gentle and kind heart that may endure the burden with ease practice while practicing. Homosexuality is one of the many sins that have lead others out to protest, but all the protests now span from the same source. Not appreciating what one already has. There is no government or system hear on earth that will not make mistakes, nor is their a home that will not the do the same. But many at this time have abandoned mercy and forgiveness. The voices of protesters go to: the courts, those with authority, and those who claim God’s authority who join them; and say ‘we will not be shackled by the word of God and will hear you if you make your voices heard’. But this leads to violence and harassment on both the protesters and the ones with authority. Because the courts have been given to the people and they support only the money, violence and lust that leads to destruction. But true Justice is in the word of God, For it is for all man and woman, no matter how far one has been hurt by others, or have been hurt themselves; may have a chance to find the light again. The verdict is the same, light has come into the world, but men loved darkness. Man uses the judgement others bring to them to justify their own sins, but in doing so they ignore the harassment they bring to themselves by their actions and words. This is why there have been many victories in courts yet no peace in victory, why many remain thirsty, and things are getting darker, why the beasts and dragon have ruled so strongly, and favorably. Again, this is why nations and homes are going against each other in war, because they love the darkness that comes with fighting instead of seeing how much they are loosing with every step, from the oldest to the youngest. Why shootings and violence are occurring. And why a crying God who hears the tears of many, and has only been able to help so far, because they won’t go far enough in his messages to see that in every detail, it is because he cares, and through his word, anyone may receive joy now and forever. But to those who continue to choose darkness, you are not his children, and the more you venture into the darkness, the closer you are to a second death that does not end. And where the burning you are experiencing now, will not end. This is his gift to all who are lost Let those who practice evil alone, either in homosexuality or other evil, so the fire dies out instead of making it stronger. This gives everyone their best and only chance. Let those who see and hear understand, Jesus is almost back, you may wake up knowing the night is almost finished. You may endure knowing the few gifts in life you appreciate, may grow into blessings that go beyond what you can ask or imagine. Let these messages help you and reach those in world of despair, so you may have life, now and forever, no matter what persecution may come. John 1:1-5 Genesis 1-3 Exodus20:1-17 Matthew 4 Matthew 5-7 Matthew 9:10-17 Matthew 19 Matthew 22:23-46 Matthew 23-25 Matthew 28:16-20 Luke 10:17-42 John 7:53-8:11 John 8:48-59 John 13-17 Revelations 11 Revelations 16 Revelations 22
Matthew 10:14 and whosoever shall not receive you,nor hear your words,when you depart out of that house or city,shake the dust off your feet... people are saved by hearing the word of God.
wrong translation see context: he quotes an imaginary person that argues "is a sin" Pope offers an answer "but sin is also your lack of charity" , he finally answer "is a human condition" i am disappointed on the WP
Yes. And you will realize that it’s all about ped0s (which are really loved in Vatican) and group rape. The word ‘homosexualist’ wasn’t ever there till 1900s. It’s sad that some Christians are so illiterate and judge others.
