Porsche 944 - The poor man's 911?

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It's not every day someone offers you the keys to their trusted Porsche, fortunately for me my friend George is a proud owner of a Grand Prix White Porsche 944. And recently he was kind enough, or perhaps stupid enough, (whichever way you wish to interpret it) to give me the keys to his lovely 1986 example.
The Porsche 944 was the successor to the 924, a car which failed to win the hearts of the automotive world and a vehicle which many accuse of utilising a feeble a van engine from VW.
The 944 was Porsche's entry level sports car designed for everyday use and it has since been hailed as one of the best handling sports cars ever built.
In this video I explore what the 944 is like to drive on a daily basis, discuss its flaws, drivability and comments on its overall personality.
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@pokejag0429 7 лет назад

Every time a car is even a single cent less then the 911 it's a poor man car by that standard a 911 is a Poor man's 918. It is still a Porsche it doesn't matter about the price at least it isn't a civic

@tombromleytalkscars170 7 лет назад

"At least it's not a civic" haha - Like that!

@zachtimms04 6 лет назад

They had to tune the turbo model down. As it faster then a 911 at the time

@Nangado 6 лет назад

Your Stew really?

@TakeFlightGarage 6 лет назад

Fernando _ Yes. In fact even the detuned turbo in the hands of a really really good driver could beat a 930 around a track.

@dockwalk6260 6 лет назад

It is a Porsche....

@Chalkyboy 7 лет назад

This was a super well put together video. Great camera shots and commentary, excited to go pick up my 944 this weekend!

@KingCast65 5 лет назад

Me too!

@SweCars 4 года назад

@@KingCast65 Me too!

@normsallitt2753 7 лет назад

My father's 1987 Alpine White started my obsession... 30 yrs & 9 Porsche's later, I haven't regretted 1 day of that obsession. Great video & thanks for bringing back some great memories!

@oohmeconkers1968 3 года назад

I have one, in white. Most of your comments are spot on. People do look and the reception I get from people is positive. Younger people have little idea as to what it is. They see the Porsche script on the back and they look puzzled. One guy said to me ‘what did that cost you ? £80,000? Nah mate a 10th of that. It’s fun, different, quick enough and there are loads of spares available. I’m doing some winter work on it for the spring. Looking forward to bringing ‘Porky’ 🙄 out of storage !! Love the channel

@Vore667 6 лет назад

It's better than 911. Engine in the back is a bad idea. Engine in front, gearbox in the back however is a terrific idea, that's why fastest and best cars use it. If only 200 944's were made, everybody would drool and people would pay millions for them. But since it sold well, it's a poor man's car even if it completely killed contemporary 911 turbo S (for 2 seconds!) on willow springs raceway. Both cars were driven by Derek Bell. After the testing he said: ''after driving the turboS the 911 felt like it had a flat tire''

@Lumberjacklegs 7 лет назад

Your channel is SEVERELY underrated. Great quality and the fact you keep it widescreen it's visually appealing and refreshing. Good music choose and quality clips. Keep it up

@Glasscogarage 6 лет назад

This is a well produced video, and it really scratches an itch that a has been around since a certain other british car show ended. I love the modern feel, music! I look forward to seeing more videos on your channel.

@774Rob 5 лет назад

There is nothing wrong with the brakes. I used to own one and it stopped on a dime.

@prototypeprofessor3747 5 лет назад

Having owned a boxter and a 944, it’s the same break force, but god damn do I have to really throw some pressure on the break petal in the 944.

@DJDiarrhea 7 лет назад

Great car, I'm really thinking about buying one. You earned yourself a new subscriber.

@fcimports9823 7 лет назад

Awesome review, you nailed it sir. This is one of the best, educated, reviews i've seen on the 944

@jcenterpriseinc 5 лет назад

All the power to you...must say I was a 911 guy only...then times were bad and had to sell my cars...in time I wanted a Porsche again but could not afford a 911....my bro told me to try out a 944...so I ended up with a 944s and loved it so much I ended up with 2 other 944turbos...anyhow dont sell it...great and starting to be rare car..944 and 911 are both great cars...just 911 guys dont realize it...

@sebastianm.8383 4 года назад

at the time, the 951 (944 Turbo) drove circles around the 911, but nobody really recognized it...

@vianhue724 7 лет назад

Nice video, you're spot on! I bought a 1991 S2 a year ago when I was 24. Those cars are really reliable and as you said everything works even after more than 2 decades. I truly recommend those front engine Porsche as first sport cars, they do not cost you too much, they're still quite powerful, very easy to use, confortable (the Targa roof is a must) and their design is timeless - outside as well as inside. No surprise their prices are increasing considering how old Porsches are sought after those days. Still time to get one with low mileage, full history for a fair price though.

@tombromleytalkscars170 7 лет назад

Vianney Lalain Hey Vianney, glad you enjoyed the video mate. Yep completely agree, sublime handling and an abundance of character. Lovely cars, really missed it when I gave it back. Congrats on the purchase of your 944!

@devorahacts 7 лет назад

That car may need some adjustments. My 1984 model shifts like butter. Thanks for the video!

@VictorGomez-vv5hm 7 лет назад

I love that car 944 for daily drive work to home. But im looking buy 928 for weekends

@BeudyHaway 5 лет назад

I think the best music for driving is HOME and other similar retro 80s wave music like Kavinsky.

@jonathankorupp4530 7 лет назад

This vehicle is destroyed underneath, the brakes dont work, the ac doesnt work, it guzzles fuel at an abnormally fast rate. I have an 87 924s and so it is essentially a 944 in a 924 body and my brakes (944 brakes) are outstanding and my aircon works well. Also i can get 29 miles to the gallon in town

@exgop7597 5 лет назад

I agree100 % . I think my millage on my 87 944 is excellent. I get 30 or more to the U.S. gallon in town in my 80 924. Love them both. I can remember seeing a 924 for the first time but I don't remember seeing a 911 for the first time. Must be a reason. Every where I go heads are turned and comments are made. Except by 911 owners. Must be reason. My reason. Not for the attention but for the most fun I have had ever had driving and at 6ft. tall most comfortable.

@tomyost6330 4 года назад

I don't believe he ever said this was a totally sorted out perfect car. For what it is with lasting beauty and its age and the owners possibly limited budget its still a great running machine built to last when maintained which won't empty the bank account a lot if you learn/service it mostly yourself. It can be tedious but its not rocket science and it can be rewarding to own.

@Gorilla_Jones Год назад

People seem to forget that the 944 platform was tested at the crucible of Lemans after it's mundane beginnings. A properly tuned 944 is a track weapon. Think about this, out of a gigantic field of cars the 924 GTS race cars finished 12th overall at Lemans, not in their class, but overall against GT1, GT2, GT3, LMP, Prototypes! Astonishing. The 944 platform is criminally underated and that's now changing with their value beginning to rocket for well kept examples. About time! Respect!

@jonathanwheatley1424 7 лет назад

Good on fuel but getting pricey on parts...

@ignacetroiani7681 7 лет назад

Jonathan Wheatley good on fuel 😂😂😂 hahaha No.

@jonathanwheatley1424 7 лет назад

35mpg on a run 23mpg round town is what I got out of mine, it's only a four pot...

@fredericfmaniere8736 6 лет назад

Ignace Troiani , around 7 liters/100 km (mini) for my turbo an 8 l ( 8,5 l) for the Two 2,5 L atmo .(mini). Driving them 100 km/h on good road . Of course quiet on throttle ,and no max speed ( 270 km/h and 225 km/h ) in this case .

@happyfox711 6 лет назад

You have no clue,(as the driver in this video, sorry but) these engines don't use any fuel at all. They were built to be maximum efficient, an economic daily drive. My 944 has a 2.5 liter (163hp without the turbo) that uses only 7-11 litres pr.100km, that's almost not more than a Golf.. Stop laughing and google it.

@hugostiglitz6914 5 лет назад

Firstly, the first porsche I ever bought was a well used 1984 911. I really didn't like it at all. I just didn't trust it on the wet English roads and even though I did all my own maintenance it was expensive. I bought my first 944 in 1998, it was an 88 model. I still have it and it is not very different to the day I bought it. Currently I have 7 cars and 2 are 944's I've uprated the exhaust and had the engine tune, put adjustable shocks and better brakes on both. I love them. As for fuel consumption, they are way way better than my much newer Toyota GT4 (ST205). On top of that, they are worth 4 times what I paid for them and with classic car insurance pretty cheap to run.

@papatorr3669 5 лет назад

I can't imagine enjoying a 944. Superb design they coulda/shoulda kept improving and making. If you're looking for a poor man's Porsche, buy a Volkswagen. RU-vid Donught Media did an entertaining video: 1963 911 made 130 HP. 1966 911S made a whopping 160 HP. Which is about what the 944 made at 163 HP. Tenth Anniversary 911 Carrera RS reached 210 HP. Which is between the 2.5 Boxster at 207, and not quite up to my 2.7 Boxster at 217 HP. Folks, the Porsches come into their own on twisty roads. If you want a straight line go fast car get a muscle car. And if you don't live near some twisty roads or go to the track, get a Corvette or a Mustang, or something else. I don't know...do POOR MEN buy Porsches? I never met a poor man in a Porsche. The truly rich men I've known drove Lexus/Toyota, Mercedes, or GM or Ford. I believe most Porsche owners are car enthusiasts, with a smaller percentage just looking for prestige.

@AlanShirtsink 2 года назад

Best review I have ever seen on a 944. You didn’t just regurgitate statistics, you actually drove it and enjoyed it. The are wonderful, fun cars that are reliable as hell if you keep the maintenance up. Mahalo nui from Hawaii

@free-birdrocker8809 2 года назад

Tom that was a great film, it looked very 80's, very Wraith with the grafix at the end. Go buy you one...I got one and its a pip!

@pinkyn0se 4 года назад

I would comment that brake technology has not come a long way. The brakes on this are no different to 99% of any new car (apart from abs). Modern cars are "over servoed" when compared to an older car.

@MarcS4R 7 лет назад

loved the review. nice music too. great work please review more vintage cars mate :)

@hagglundguy 7 лет назад

Absolutely epic video. I loved every second. You are very talented at making car videos and showing your expression and passion through the camera lens. As an 18 year old student, the Porsche 944 is like an almost attainable dream car. After watching your video I am really willing to buy one. The example in this video is so gorgeous with it's meticulous white paint job and the PORSCHE-text on the back, what a beauty!

@rogbrown1458 4 года назад

I have a1984 Porsche 944 with 82000 miles on the dial fab car Rog brown Pacific sunset records

@miguelcastaneda7236 4 года назад

944 is balanced car versus a 911 you have to learn the ass end in turns wants to shift with the front on track you can pull away from 11s 8n turns its in straight always where they can power up

@TheMentalblockrock 4 года назад

There is a video with a modified turbo 944 doing near 8 minute laps of the Nurburgring!

@TheMentalblockrock 4 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-btjsVEGbSHU.html the MPG I used to get from my 944 was always very good!

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 4 года назад

I think climate control was an option on this car. Re : your humidity problem.

@stankakol5195 4 года назад

Personally, I think the 944 is much better looking than the 911.

@trevorfitzpatrick4181 7 лет назад

Great looking 944, sounds tight; great video :)

@pietermaritz1544 7 лет назад

Poor man's Porsche is a VW Beetle, also a cool car.

@paulhunter123 6 лет назад

vw beetle is much better buy than a 944 its a disaster and the ugly list german car of all time

@tomyost6330 4 года назад

944 ugly? You have strange taste.

@josephjewellers 5 лет назад

i watch this video only because I love 944

@stankakol5195 4 года назад

The 944 is simply better looking than the 911.

@MotorMindsProductions 6 лет назад

I've got a 1986 944 over here in the states and I absolutely adore it! I have a few videos of it on my channel if you want to check them out! Great video!

@mourningsmile6882 6 лет назад

I laughed my ass off when i read the title, the 944 was actually way better than the 911 at that time. Hahaha

@theovee4321 6 лет назад

mourning SMILE. No i dont think so..and i drove em all

@TheJagjr4450 4 года назад

The Turbo is the fun one... I had a 951 back in 1992 - 1995 - drove the HELL OUT of IT... modified with cam and remapped prom.

@happyfox711 6 лет назад

Great vid. Everyone that ever sat in one, loves them, and so many idiots hates the 944 for all the wrong reasons. Just look at the comments. oh, and b.t.w. it's not at all thirsty as you maybe noticed at the end of you trip. Also the horsepowers don't come out unless you really step on it (after 5000rpm's).

@corbancutten 4 года назад

Very good mate your gonna do well your good at it.

@eddya9147 7 лет назад

Great video if someone could please tell me the track @ 10:20 its dope and super 80's!

@florijandeclercq3405 6 лет назад

home - before night! ;)

@barnabywild2215 6 лет назад

I've had five 944s from between 1995 to 2015. They are extremely hard wearing and reliable. My first had over 400,000 miles on the clock and was easily passing MOT emission tests up until 2005 when a drunk driver ploughed into it with his shitty Mondeo. Fuel consumption is very respectable. Maintenance is pretty simple given it's a Porsche - anyone not afraid to get their hands dirty can easily carry out drive shaft / wheel bearing / brake replacement / repair tasks. There is a thriving spare parts industry with lots of reasonably priced QUALITY pattern parts available. Corrosion is rarely an issue - the bodies were zinc-dipped prior to assembly. Their shape is timeless and elegant. The only bug is the tendency for all models to suffer cracked dashboards (there's a guy in the USA who makes a very good quality padded cover for the entire dash to order) - essentially reupholstering it. Also if you find the rear floor carpets are damp it's usually the drain pipes just behind the sun roof have hardened and detached - an easy fix. Handling is perfect due to the fifty/fifty balance between the weight of the engine and the rear transmission. This is one car that I hope Porsche bring back without messing with - unlike the Mini, Fiat 500, VW Beetle from other manufacturers (although Porsche is part of the VW/Audi partnership). A better quality dash is all they need to change.

@hugostiglitz6914 5 лет назад

I'm amazed the owner put what soulds like an S2 engine and didn't upgrade the brakes, steering and suspension. I've got a 944 S2 cabriolet with updated brakes and steering and adjustable gas shocks with staggered alloys. It goes and handles and stops as well as any modern car.

@edgargranados8524 5 лет назад

I have a Porsche 928 and it is fantastic GT ! But now I have an old jag too. I want to get a rid of the 928 for a proper sports car. I’m stuck between the 944 and the alfa spider. Any thoughts ?

@jacky1tse422 5 лет назад

I think this car is classic after all, it has very unique exterior design and that open/close head lamp, it really tells a lots about the 1980s eras, but also the design is still look juicy up to this day. 911 looks good, yes. But it look too similar to boxster, so it is too common in style. I wish they remake 944, but i am not sure the open/close head light are allowed on new cars in USA

@noshasmurf 7 лет назад

great review tom loved it and shared it on a porsche page with lots of good feedback and your right they do get under your skin i have a boxter s and would take the 944 out any day leaving the boxter at home .. i also had an 89 911 a few years back and still i prefer the 944 .. its not as fast but is fun to drive ..

@fredericfmaniere8736 6 лет назад

Thank you for this good video and to Porsche engineers for this wonderful car ! Turbo or atmo , 2500 cc or 3 litter , 1983 ... 1986 or 1991 , white ... black or blue , all the 944 are great cars ! The best Porsche design and program for sure . And now the best modern collector car in my opinion . Ancient and future success obviously !

@petemartin7589 5 лет назад

Loved the video. I almost bought one of these back in 1996. Had a BMW 325 Sport instead. Shame as it got stolen! Maybe I'll buy one of these beautiful cars now that I 've seen your video. Where is the location? Looks nice . Keep up the good work.

@ARTUNAGER 6 лет назад

First S2 I had, drove him from Manchester to Aberdeen...best experience ever on a car...awesome...then drove him arround Scotland roads, amazing...great sensations awesome handling and still cool look after so many years...then moved to Spain and got another one S2 as well...might do a review video one day...can´t wait to jump on his seat and enjoy it...I love the body shape the huge trunk, pop up lights...the sound of the engine...amazing!! I won´t swap it for a 911 no way!!

@monica93304 6 лет назад

I've had two 86 non turbos. The next will be a turbo. Fun car.

@robbelliii 5 лет назад

Nice 44....Grand Prix white like my 1994 968. Now there is a car! Performance without the maintenance woes of a turbo.

@douglasmartinez2756 3 года назад

I second all the great reviews below. Excellent video, great commentary, great sounds. Thank you.

@jwillkens 7 лет назад

My '87 944 s gets great gas mileage. Just over 20 mpg no matter how I drive it.

@morkthebuilder9943 4 года назад

I'm not sure why you are comparing a 944 with your mx5?

@stugill4513 5 лет назад

omg is he old enuff 2 drive im sorry do some home work your used 2 modern cars with instant abs and electric power sterring the 944 is a pure classic and if its the turbo its a cheep supercar beater

@porsche928s5 5 лет назад

It’s not even close to a 911, some say the 928 is a poor mans 911 yet in the 1970s-90s it cost more

@cadencekumori7320 5 лет назад

Is there a track list for this video? There were a few that I recognized, but also a few tracks I want to add to my rotation.

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 4 года назад

My favourite Porsche. The turbo version is epic! I love the fact that it also has pop-up headlights!

@_ford_crown_victoria_p 4 года назад

a Porsche is a Porsche

@foufdog 7 лет назад

@tombromley Nice little video Tom, good review, I'm slowly falling in love with one and very tempted to buy it. Nicely edited too by the way. Good work guys

@paulmcadam6825 6 лет назад

Excellent video. Only a few of these 944s in Guyana, South America.

@surreylord 6 лет назад

Thanks for great video. Your channel should grow if you keep up content like this bud! ;)

@stevekovacs6250 4 года назад

Por-sha!

@andrewjones6459 6 лет назад

Anyone have the links for all of the music used in this video? Please and thank you

@alistairdriver3959 4 года назад

Great review made me go out and buy one is the one you're driving lowered?

@jim_bocho 7 лет назад

Airconditioning was actually not a very rare option on these cars - owned two with AC.

@zachtimms04 6 лет назад

Jan Lübbers AC was common on turbos... It was the S2 that is rare to have ac, I have a 91 S2 in maritime blue with ac

@johnhoulihan8057 6 лет назад

Very engaging and professional video Tom and a nice car too - well done!

@LCR225UK 7 лет назад

I've got my eye on a Golf R and that review was outstanding. Your videos are really accomplished...please make more !

@tombromleytalkscars170 7 лет назад

LCR225UK Thank you for your kind words. Have two videos which my cameraman is currently editing and lots of cars penciled in the diary so watch this space 👍🏼

@HikingInSierras 7 лет назад

Nice video. 944 seem to be gaining popularity, again.

@tombromleytalkscars170 7 лет назад

Hiking In Sierras Hey, thanks for the comment. Yes I agree! Definitely an appreciating classic.

@martyldl6238 5 лет назад

very awkward to watch , didn't know any stats , not really fair using a 230ish bhp car not near standard, bollox video.