Trying to figure out which one to buy, the Porsche 992 or the Porsche 991.2? Enthusiasts definitely have opinions. Use this video to help you choose the right one for you.
Greetings from Scotland. For me I drive a 991.1 C4GTS. It’s a great car great noise. I am hoping to trade up to a 991.2 GT3 in the next few months. For me the 992 is taken it a step to far. I prefer buttons to touch screen. I also prefer NA engines this is the reason I have my gts and hope a gt3. Like the videos thanks again.
I had a 718, then a 992. Loved them both for different reasons. The tech on these cars is so advanced that, IMHO, it’s just more to break. I’m not chasing track times. I just want to enjoy a spirited drive. Active engine mounts, active suspension, electric turbo-all costly repairs. I think Porsche would crush it with a bare bones NA sports car that comes in at a competitive price. I know, I know… but one can dream.
I think there is a reason the 997.2 911s are basically going for their original MSRP today with values holding steady, even slightly increasing despite the rest of the market decreasing significantly.
Last Xmas my amazing wife surprised me with a 991.2 Carrara S Cabriolet (2018) with less than 30K miles on it. We had a 2018 Macan, which we'd bought new, but this was my first Porsche performance car and I've been in love ever since! Yours is my favorite 911 channel of course because I so fully relate to your love of that black 991.2. And I was thrilled to hear the story of your being reunited with it. Our 991.2s are incredibly similar, with the exception of mine being convertible and having blacked out lettering in the rear. I've since put over 6K on it being my daily driver here in the Bay Area. I can't seem to go a day without enjoying it!
I have had 964s, 997s, 991.1, 991.2 and now as of a week ago the 992. At the time I had each one, I loved each of them for what they offered, however as I bought the next model, I appreciated the newer style, drivability, power, etc more than the one it replaced. Similar comparison to classic american cars. I love the 69 camaro but I cant go back and would only appreciate owning one if it was a restomod. I am 59 years old and I want the creature comforts of what each new generation has to offer. Like you mentioned in your review of your 992, I agree some parts of the exterior could be improved, like the rear lower valance but the rest I really appreciate and I really dont mind the interior and like it more than my 991.2.
Loved ur video on the 992 T as u made great points that I agree with. My description is the 992 is “effortless”. It is such an amazing machine, rear axle steering, faster, better tech inside, just makes it more easy and elegant to drive. If u like a raw drive where u can be one with ur car on every turn, that’s the 991. Me, I just want a better car that makes life easier. And having owned a 981 cayman s(traded for my 992) I couldn’t get a car with the same interior just faster. 992 is my forever car!
I’ve own several 911s through the years and my current 911 is a 992 GT3 RS. I will say this. For me the 991 both .1 and .2 is peak Porsche for me. They more raw more visceral more connected. I have sampled many 992 non GT cars. I find them dull and lacking . Refined , yes, capable yes but lacking . Also the 991 is the last generation that differentiates trim with body width ie wide body vs non wide body whereas the 992 everyone gets a wide body. The 991 followed heritage with the C4S as it got the wide body and the connected tail light strip with the 992 every model gets the connected taillight strip. 991 for the win.
@Rennthusiast they've said that for just about every new generation dating back to the 80's 3.2 G-body. At least to the best of my own recollection. I've been lucky enough to own 8 Porsche's through the past 30 years, and I have to say that I've loved every single one of them through all of the generations. Safe travels, bud ✌️
[Sighs] Knowing that Will only pulls commentary from FB. FWIW, RU-vid is the _only_ social media I am willing to entertain. Never have and never will touch another platform. If you read the Privacy Agreement, then you would reconsider too! Nevertheless, I do appreciate these videos on the Porsche community. Always fun to see the ever-evolving dynamics of the fickle Porschephile. _"We are a puny and fickle folk. Avarice, hesitation, and following are our diseases."_ *~Ralph Waldo Emerson* Stay classy my friends.
I hear you but it seems like a ton of Porsche people are on FB so a good place to get info. Also a great place to buy and sell Porsche stuff. Finally, my life isn’t that interesting so I am not worried about them monitoring my activities. The cell phone companies already know everything anyway. 😄
@@Rennthusiast No worries, brother. I completely understand. Tis a blessing and a curse having knowledge of the inner-workings "behind the curtain" so to speak. This is why I am retiring at the end of 2024. Long before the normal retirement age I might add. I need to "get out" with the little remnants of health and sanity I have left. Unfortunately, I will never truly be _"off"_ as my wife likes to say. I am hoping the forthcoming acquisition of a new Porsche/Quadrifoglio/Z06 will allow me to preoccupy my time long enough to give me a brief moment of reprieve. After all, I was a car guy long before I became the man I am today. _"Once you are ON - you are _*_always_*_ on. Get over it or get out now!"_ *~Instructor V (1944-2006)* Stay classy my friend.
i chose a 2019 C4S recently. I dont like the front bumper on the 992 as much but could live with it. Dont like the lack of actual buttons in the 992 and that weak little shifter.
I have a 2024 992.1 GTS and just love it. However, I have wander lust for a 993 Turbo or a 356 coupe. Infected with an air-cooled virus right now. 😊 I like either the 991.2 or 992.1. Have driven both. End up bias toward whatever one you own. The beauty of Porsche is they have a car to suit a broad range of enthusiasts (and their wallet sizes)!
Trying various 992’s and my 991.2 back to back I’d still go with my 991.2..and so would the 992 owners. £40k of options including rear wheel steering and PCCB’s probably helps a bit. It’s also better made
The 991.1 and 991.2 are my favorite generation of the 911. In my opinion it is the best blend of old school and modern. I tried to like the rear of the 992. I just can't do the 992 rear and I don't care for all the tech that newer cars are coming out with. That's with all brands, not just Porsche.
991.2 for all the reasons mentioned. In fact, I might make mine a relatively loaded base, last of the narrow bodies. Not mentioned among 992 complaints that I've seen here yet, the overcomplicated flush door handles on both 992's. For some that's fiddly nitpicking but it grates they fixed what weren't broke,...and speaking of, the 992's look like they might do just that. Perhaps mostly though, they don't have that assuring, natural (familiar) action and feel... Often mentioned, disdain for the fakakta 992's PDK shifter nubbin', perhaps my number one sour point - it's a huge demerit and the 992.2 a real missed opportunity to go back to a real shifter. They should come out with a dealer-installed kit to retrofit. People always mention the ridiculous size and shape, and I fully agree, but seldom mentioned is also the complete loss of the +/- function there. The 991's gave you the choice of using the paddles or the console shifter,....there are times when it's really nice to not mix shifts and steering functions, but still wanting to control the gears. I 'grew up' mostly with stick shifts into my 40s (let's just say I'm much older now) and I guess always want to have that reassuring feeling of my hand resting on or by the shifter - manual or automatic. Later edit: this shifter is all the more important given the fact of the more limited availability of manual...and even on the 992.1 most sold with the PDK anyway. That means the majority of the more recent model 911's out there now--used or new--have only the nubbin'. The only part of the 992, both gens, I would like to swap to the 991 is the hood, the creases are a nice ode to the classic 911's of yore.. Too bad we can't have it all, eh? All of the above said, I pulled in next to a gorgeous wide-hipped 993 C4S at the gas station the other day, the engine still purring. Man! All I could do to keep from being an idiot kid fawning (drooling) over it, though I did give the driver a solid thumbs up and got a nice grin and wave back for the sentiment! So, yes, the air cooled's are special. As Will said, one of the classic AC's AND a 991.2, hard to go wrong.
Respectfully, I liked your channel's content and have always listened in for your rational and thoughtful analysis. However, I think you're headed in a direction that is not for me any longer. I was more into the variety of cars you've owned and appreciated your detailed experience about the wide spectrum of the brand, your ownership, and Porsche's growing technology. The vid you did on the "7 Types of Porsche Enthusiasts You Don't Want to Become" was great, with many insights on how to enjoy your car in an age of social media and opinions. I guess I feel like you are stepping into a few of these "types" in this video and/or encouraging others to be your avatars. Anyway, that's just my opinion and I hope you consider these comments as you further shape and define content for the. Your keen ability to categorize and type different moods of ownership is an interesting lens and provides lesson for all of us. On that note, I think you're becoming a victim of your own cautionary tales outlined in the "7 Types" video.
All good thoughts and I appreciate the feedback. Content shifts and channels evolve and I hate to hear that the new vid formats don’t match your taste, however to keep it fresh for myself and others it’s important to try new things. Good perspective on the 7 types…certainly don’t want to be that guy. Will give that some thought. As far as avatars, not sure what you mean by that? Thanks for the feedback!
My personal preference would be 991.2 > 992 The 992 does honestly feel more modern, and it feels like it could easily wear the badging of another manufacturer sadly. That said, I'd go for a 991.1 > 991.2 because [NA] > turbo 991.1 > 997.2 > 997.1 > 991.2 > 992 I drive a 996.1 and would love to upgrade once I can afford it.
Dont get the 992s.. will regret if you're an enthusiast . If you're normal driver looking for comfort 992 is good. I owned a ferrari 488 , 718 cayman gts , now a 992.. absoulutely dissapointed the way this car feel. Its just an super expensive mercedes
Given that this channel leans heavily air cooled, it should come as no surprise that the commenters hate the new stuff. Porsche’s sales numbers and ADMs demonstrate that it’s a hit with buyers though. That comparison to the 996 is wild, especially when one considers that the 996 has had a renaissance with enthusiasts in the past couple of years.
I think you’re right about air cooled bias but I also know that I have seen a lot of channel growth around water cooled content, which tells me some percentage of viewers are into the newer stuff as well. Thanks for watching!
Either 991 or 992 as long as it is somewhat restrained. The 992 GTS RS and ST at my Porsche dealer look like full size hot wheel cars that could make even a Ferrari blush.
992 definitely does NOT look better! 991 is best looking water cooler imho. Drove a 992 Carrera S at PECLA and it was very fast. Agree about iPad dashes, but at least they integrated the screen into the dash rather than sticking it on top.
Okay maybe it’s the mood I’m in today but why is everyone after perfection. There is no such thing in a production car. It doesn’t exist. The only way to get even close is to build it from the ground up and even then it’s a pipe dream. Yes the 991.2 has some features that are desirable and the 992 also has some features which are better than the 991.2. Why can’t we just enjoy the cars for what they are and stop dumping on them.
I looked at both a new 992.1 and a 991.2 for purchase and decided the 992 was too big, the console cup holder was right behind the manual shifter, had to buy an S to get a manual and the piano black was very scratch able. Both had the same engine and I saved $40k. Decision made- 991.2.
I had a 718 Spyder manual. Then a 991.2 C4S w/ x51 pack. Drove the 992. Not impressed with the 992. Some interior elements felt cheap and rear design not as cohesive as 991. Also fake exhaust finishers on a 100K+ car? Really? IMO 991.2 was peak 911.
Edit: wrote below before listening, but added a bit. Thx for sharing. 2019 991.2 4 gts was my sweetspot! That's my keeper and I prefer it to the 992 for many reasons: size/feel, design, tech blend, looks, just about everything except power. Since I rarely use the power I have, I doubt I'll get the cheap tune to 500+hp, but that's easy to do if desired. And I don't want to offend anyone, but I think the quality of interior build is better on the 991.2.
991.2 for sure. Many aspects are covered. 992 design front and back is not great. Cheap looking. Back too high for 911, looks like a Panamera. Interior… Desaster. No analogue which is a crime as digital will age soooo poorly. 992 100% is the next 996. Nobody will like or want it!
It's very clear. after owning multiple 991 and 992 GT cars. For track, 992 is a game changer. For street and enthusiasts, beyond shadow of a doubt, 991 is superior. Subjective, of course, but I find the 991 aesthetically more pleasing.
I had a 997.2 Turbo manual traded it in on a 991.1 Turbo S (both convertibles). I have been looking at the 992.1 Turbo S convertible since they came out and the only thing I like is that it is new. I dislike the rear end. I dislike the shaver-looking shifter. The dash is too digital. Also, it just keeps getting bigger and heavier, which I dislike as well. I may just get a 992.2 Turbo S convertible with low mileage and keep it for a long time, but honestly, I'm not sure yet. I know while the interest rates are up and the used 992 prices are this high, I'm waiting it out. 2021 992 TTS convertibles are still selling at about 85-90% of the new MSRP. Ridiculous for a 4 year old car. To answer the question, to me the 991.2 is a better looking car.
Very nice format video and cool that you put on the spotlights comments from the users! I thought the comment about the IPad feeling of the 992 does made sense but to anyone contemplating to buy 991.2 or 992, I urge you to drive both and make up your mind based on your driving experience. I did not like the razor shape of the PDK knob of the 992 and was never a fan of the build quality of 992 back in 2020. But when I drove a 992 C2S coupe on track, the car felt so good - steering, engine noise in Sport+ at high rpm - that all my complaints on the interior cabin were forgotten and dare I say forgiven 😅
Had a dark grey 992 with black interior, then sold it for a 991.2 GT Silver with cognac/espresso interior PLUS a 997.2 carrera white with carrera red interior... for the new combo, every penny of it
