Great battle between the Porsche GT1 and the McLaren F1 GTR at Le Mans in 1996. Listen to the great sound of the McLaren en see the nice flames at the back site of the Porsche when the driver is changing gears
NA 6.0L 48valve V12 against a 3.2L twin turbocharged Flat-6... what a deeply fascinating fight in engine technology. Add the visceral sounds of engines screaming to high redlines and flames shouting out due to compression... a deeply missed era. These cars have become more beautiful as time has passed.
ErwinSchrodinger64 couldn’t agree more. Back when there was different types of cars racing each other, some NA, some turbocharged.. was so much more interesting to watch.
Porsche always made miracles in terms of engineering. How a rear engine-real wheel drive "street" car with a flat 6 cylinder can compete and even beat a middle engine V12 supercar is a prove that they mastered motorsport.
the neverending battle of handling versus power. Power goes onto straights winning and then losing in the curves. I mean look how much 50% wider the porsche is while the rocket Mclaren f1 being the fastest of it's era I thinkg Veyron managed to beat it only a decade later and with severe effort building an extemely more complicated machine
As a modified road car, the Mclaren F1 GTR have slower cornering speed compared to the purposely build for race Porsche GT1. But it has a faster straight line speed. The 97 Mclaren F1 GTR Longtail have improved cornering speed with a slightly slower top speed than the 96 GTR.
Not true, it is a modified road car. Mclaren F1 was designed for the road, but since the economy was so bad Mclaren had trouble selling them and converted a few of the chassis to race versions.
There are plenty of videos posted on youtube from McLaren themselves on the history of their car, that it started as a road car and was the OWNERS that wanted a race car variant. What came next became motoring history.
Squill DX yeah but now have everything is so suffocated by rules and regulations back in the day it was almost like there is still figuring out the limits of what was safe which made it so entertaining to watch
@@oldsoul7792 I think that's because they did figure out what's safe and are still pushing. I feel like if Webber and Dumbreck never had their shunts we wouldn't have the aero and ridiculous corner that we have today. But I wont lie, BoT is way too much in favor of hybrids right now. Toyota ran away with the 24h both years but i suppose thats alo what caused a change in regulation along with Audi, Porsche, and Peugeot dropping after the death of diesel
it seems the 911 had better braking and cornering while the f1 had better traction and acceleration...or it was just this part of the race, I completly ignore that
true. they had to call it "911" and sell a few dozens of it so porsche could get the homologation from the fia and get to race the lemans race with the gt1
yeah if I remember well, they took profit of the chasis or engine technology. this way the porsche carrera gt wasn't going to be able to race officialy at any championship (probably because porsche wasnt interested in doing so).
looked like F1 driver doesnt know his brake marker points. He Brakes way too early and timidly. Looks like a main driver in the porsche and a fill in driver in the McL
@@godsinbox it's not that he doesn't know where to brake it's that the McLaren has better traction so he knew that if broke earlier he could get the porsche after a corner entirely from traction and the instant power from the NA V12
@@ljamieson0581 nope. nobody drives like that. you defend your position or your team manager fires you. he is not there to increase the show. there must be another explanation - overheating brakes, full tank, rookie. corners are totally capitulated. how long was this race anyway?
@@ZA-7 What strategy? Team strategy? Driving strategy? People talk about this as if it was only the machines and never consider the skill of the driver.
yes that is true, actually i think all three 24h races (spa, le mans and nürburgring) are great and nice to watch but other than that, motorsport has become very boring like f1
It still surprises me how successful the McLaren F1 was. It was designed as a road car, albeit a very high performance one by one of the very foremost racing car shops ever. But that it could take overall wins from purpose built, all out race cars is still impressive.
The McLaren F1 was created by the God of car design with the support of one man with chronic OCD and another man with more spare cash to blow on the greatest car the world will ever see, than I'll earn in 1,000 lifetimes.
Murada except pagani is more luxury and weighs more when building this car they wanted a super light car like a Porsche that could handle turns and be nimble but they wanted a car with a lot of torque that’s why the compression ratio is of the charts but they also aimed for hp too take down those muscle cars with crate engines so they used the 750is v12 and Enlarged the pistons for more strength
@@michealangel1556 A Pagani Zonda weighs very little more than a F1. The Pagani interior looks luxurious because it looks beautiful but is still very mimimal, mainly bare carbon and a small amount of leather, just like the F1.
I just love the way each of them is playing to their car's strengths. The McLaren lets off the throttle a bit early before the corner and lets the Porsche through because he knows taking too much speed into the corner will lose him more distance than simply giving it up and taking it back immediately after the corner. The Porsche driver is just so confident in taking every turn. And just look at how dainty the cars look, there is charm in their shapes/designs.
Every owner has the right to do whatever they please with their vehicle. You cry about them keeping it in a garage while they cry about how others put miles and abuse theirs. I’m all for putting miles on a car but they’re all about preservation, making a profitable return, and see the car as a piece of art.
@@billnye7745 We have different purposes why we buy cars. Fred AKML was right nothing to cry about. If you buy these cars and use it for more than 1 Million miles it means you have to money to maintain it.
The thing about the F1 nowadays is that they're prohibitively expensive to maintain and run. That's the main reason people don't tend to use them much. If I had a car worth 25 million I'd probably think twice before driving it
The McLaren F1 was never built as a race car first and then to be sold as a road car second. It was a road car built to the best specification possible and to therefor have capabilities to exceed GT race cars of the day by simply being built without compromise. I think both Ron Dennis and Gordon Murray said the race car wasn't an option and had to be persuaded to start the race car program after the cars had been built. Cars like the Merc CLR GT1 were race cars converted for the road - and bloody ugly and crap it is too !
That Merc is one ugly car - race or road, its ugly. Classic case of race car first, road car second. The genius with the F1 is that its a beautiful road car first, that also kicks the other race cars into touch. When they started playing with the F1 to make it a better race car, you got the Long Tail - uglier, but a better race car. But yes, even the ugly Merc is a fine bit of engineering. Just happens the F1 was better and came out of what should have been an inferior starting block of being a road car first. That was the genius of Murray and McLaren though.
Please don't forget: The McLaren F1 is a "road car" (even if limited to 109 cars) = a much worse basis for racing than a Porsche GT1 (designed for competition racing and only 24 cars built).
@@nikomoin7604 Your'e right. All 911's have boxer engines but porsche also built flat engines( or 180°-V as we call them in Germany) but they were all 8+ cylinders. The 917 for example had a 180°-V10
Nah if he didn't tuck into slip stream, he wouldn't have a chance to catch up, as the f1 is a lot faster and has more traction. So it had to be in the slipstream
@@6rin701 yes he would. The Porsche is faster in corners, has more downforce and I think it has better traction too (idk). Still the F1 could smoke that Porsche when he reach the Hunaidières wich is a long straight
@@6rin701 a lot faster not really, you only get those speeds on long stretches. idk if we're watching the same video, they were basically side by side the first 10- seconds and the F1 was slowly creeping away. Porsche will always dominate in corners and agility
-As we see on their natural habitat, a pair of these excelent specimens are performing their matting ritual, while the Male-ac Laren is showing off his brute force and sheer size of muscles, the most delicate and agile GT1 keep up when his counterpart struggles to move all his weight on the slow corners giving to the porsche the chance to maintain the pace of his delicate dance, some claim they keep this dance for 24 hours if needed.
I stopped watching F1 races after Mika Häkkinen retired. Rivalry between Schumacher and Häkkinen was so entertaining. F1 have been boring a long long time.
F1's owners are not concerned about fighting for trp with other motorsports..they are fighting with WWE .. and I'm not kidding.. it's from liberty's own press release..
Everybody is talking about those two (amazing) cars but not a single person is talking about Le Mans. It's been now 100 years Le Mans make possible this kind of stunning battles
I remember this so well, just seeing those images brings back the exact feeling I had back then, watching and hearing those cars so close, lap after lap. Great memories, it’s just scary to see how many years have gone by since...
Got the Tamiya 1/10 RC one during christmas 1999. Some weeks later, I went back from school and my dad had fully finished the bodyshell. He also painted details and made a full custom headlights system and built mudguards to preserve the electronics. He made it looks like the artworks on the Tamyia box. 22 years later, and my RC 911 GT1 is still in a close to new condition. Proving how good the Tamiya models are. I'm sure it will be in shape to be part of the few objects I will keep in my grave. And 22 years later, this 1996 911 GT1 still my favourite race car of all time. Many thanks for the upload of this very rare footage.
Something about seeing the driver through the windshield, right in the middle where the driver should be, reminds me of how uniquely special the F1 was, and still remains.
Beautiful ! I grew up watching those fantastic races in the afternoons, after coming back from school....damn I miss those teenage years now. Next seasons were even more insane when Mercedes AMG came back to GT1 class racing with the CLK-GTR and the immortal Team Oreca Chrysler Viper GTS-R twins began dominating GT2 with that threatening 7990cc V10 ! Best years👍
Boa noite !!!! Que disputa incrível. Só saudades dessa época fantástica do automobilismo. Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal. Abraço do Brasil.......
Id say their acceleration was pretty equal. where the mcleran had the advantage was out of the turn with its n/a response. The turbos on the porsche likely lagged just enough for the mcleran to take advantage. But once on full boil they were pretty close.
Euphorica Difference is the GT1 was built purposely for racing. The F1 was originally a road car that was so good that Mclaren wanted to race it, making almost no changes. Even being a road car, it dominated the "homologated" prototypes in the '95 season.
Euphorica Turbo lag was definately an issue, but I think what you are seeing is more the difference between a lighter car, and a larger more aerodynamic car. The McLaren has the advantage in the slow corners because it has less mass to carry, but once up to speed, the Porsche's superior downforce gives it more grip than the McLaren.
@@TwskiTV wrong the f1 was designed for racing but at the time to enter a gt1 class car you had to produce around 10 I think road legal variants of the car you wanted to enter but when mclaren made their street legal version they liked it very much and sold it but it did not sell very well Porsche also did the same with the gt1 making a 993 and 996 version
@@Toxic2T it wouldn't. 911 GT1 is basically a prototype and keep in mind that Ferrari would've been with FIA mandated air restrictor (so are Porsche and Mclaren) and that fades F50's advantage.
Man, this looks and sounds incredible. Two engineering greats battling it out on the most historical and famous endurance race in the world. One car sounds like the pinnacle of technology (Porsche gt1) and the second one (McLaren F1 GTR)...well...that sounds like Satan is screaming at the top of his lungs... absolutely ear-gasmic and visceral sounding that McLaren F1 is❤❤❤
Great find! A testament to what both manufacturers can do, but Porsche can still do it a bit better in my opinion due to the fact they use only 6 cylinders. Both of these race cars are legendary champions!
Porsche was turbocharged, 3.2L vs naturally aspirated 6.1L v12 of the mclaren. Forced induction increases the displacement (14.7psi = 1 bar air pressure at sea level)…I don't know the amount of boost the Porsche had, but multiply 3.2 x (boost/ 14.7) and you get the displacement…14.7 is quite low, and would double the displacement (thus 6.4L)…that's how naturally aspirated vs turbocharged/ supercharged works. It's displacement, not cylinder count.
Forced induction does not increase displacement! It stresses the engine to produce the output of a larger engine without adding the extra size and mass of a large displacement engine. In this case you are getting double duty out of each cylinder because it is compared to an engine with double the amount of cylinders.
A 4 liter, 4 stroke engine will go through the equivalent of 1L per stroke, the volumetric mass is 14.7 lb/in for air at sea-level (1 bar). The CFM is what matters, if the CFM of a turbo is rated as the same as the engine, the engine is this receiving twice the volume of air, and fuel. The displacement that engine goes through is thus double, if twice as much air and fuel is being forced into it. It doesn't mean twice the cylinders, it means twice the displacement. There are 1.5L 4 cylinder cars, and 1.5L V12 Ferrari's in the early days of F1. Why do you think all of these modern turbo cars can't get real-world number to match their epa ratings? The engine is more stressed, and the effect of adding a higher volume of air into the engine effectively means you need more fuel to maintain ~12-1 A:F ration. This isn't taking into account the added heat-loss turbo's have over N/A engines (the Bugatti Veyron engine actually 4,000 hp, 2,000 lost in heat - hence the 16 radiators, and 1,000 in friction).
All Motorsport is, is genius developers who build the baddest cars they can, then they have an adrenaline pumping human push their masterpieces to the limit. Such an amazing concept, so much more that goes into this sport than people think.
1996 Porsche 911 GT1 LM and 1996 Mclaren F1 LM Short Tail. Up until this day these two cars costs millions of pounds and dollars! Each have a road version that costs millions. The 911 Strabenversion or street legal version, 25 of these where made has a tops speed of 378kph and 0-60 in 3.6 sec while the Mclaren LM Short Tail has 5, Mclaren F1 has 64, F1 GT has 2 and F1 GTR long tail has no road versions. Until now these will cost even more as these cars are legendary and a RARE SITE!
@@mikeysavage9041 Then I have to be more rich if its value will go up to $100,000,000. Why Porsche Did not produce more pieces of their 1998 911 GT1? This is the best looking 911 GT1. Did they made road versions of their 1996 911 GT1 and sold to the public?
@@awakenedsoul2638 the GT1 was a homologation car that raced in GT1. The homologation rules allotted a minimum of 10 road cars that could be sold to customers. Porsche did the bare minimum and built 10 road cars. The Mclaren on the other hand was designed to be a road car. However the design was so good that the bosses decided to enter it into the GT1 american le mans series and it dominated the 1996 season.
Now that’s what I call racing! In that short clip you could see the strength and weaknesses of each car and its setup, on the assumption the expert racing drivers are considered equal.
McLaren team: Sir we need a race car for Le Mans McLaren: We have the F1 McLaren team: Formula 1 cars aren’t built to endure unless you mean the F-- McLaren: just shove a wing on it
@James Wheeler A fanboy. Respect someone's likes. Porsche is what I want that is why I chose it. One time winner versus more than 20 times winner ha ha ha ha! People always choose the fastest to win arguments. I ain't being a fanboy I only said here which car I like.
@James Wheeler I like the Mclaren F1 GTR Long Tail if I will choose a version of the F1 to own but in this race I choose Porsche 911 GT-1. This one have a road version also the 97 year model. I was a little bit disappointed that the 98 Le Mans 24 Hours winner was not given a road version for sale, only 1 piece for homologation following the rules before it can be entered in the race. I did not watch or did not have the chance to watch the full race of 95 - 99 Le Mans 24 Hours season to see how the F1, 911 GT1, CLK-GTR, NSX-GT1 and GT2, Skyline GTR-LM. R390 GT-1, Panoz Esperante GTR-1, Lister Storm V-12 and Toyota GT-One performed in the race. Mclaren only one it once during the 95 season and won a few races. 911 96 and 97 lost, Porsche was disappointed and got the win during the 98 season with the 911 98 year model. I am sure from 96 to 99 the F1 did not even finished the race from 1st to 10th place. The race is too much for it even if it was the fastest car during the 90's because there are many fast cars in the GT-1 Category. Funny that the BMW V-12 LMR won during 99 because Toyota just have a blown tire but if not because of the blown tire they should have won their first ever Le Mans 24 Hour race.
@James Wheeler During the 90's if Toyota did not had such bad luck, quickly after the Mazda 787B won Le Mans 24 Hours in 91 the GT-One quickly became the second Japanese Car to win the famed and most prestigious Gran Tour Racing Le Mans 24 Hours. Yeah right 95 - 2000 was a legendary time for legendary cars to be born. Let me include the F-40 LM and GTE which actually entered the race from 92 to 96, correct me if this was a mistake. F-50 GT was made but was never entered in any race. A limited edition Ferrari that was a failure and wasted potential that was never used in a race. 1996 Lamborghini Diablo VT was modified by SAT from France and made the Diablo GT1. A naturally heavy super car weighing at 3,500 lbs. SAT reduced its weight to 2,200 lbs so it could comply to the regulations of the race in Le Mans. It has 655 HP but can be tuned more 755 once it enters the race. They replaced many parts with carbon fiber to make the car lighter, agile handling and faster acceleration and top speed. It was written in wikipedia that the F-50 GT could do 380 KPH and 0-60 in 3.1 to 3.2 while performance of the Diablo GT1 was not written but someone said it could do 0-60 in 2.7 to 3.0 flat. I am sure its top speed of 340 - 350 kph stock increased up to 380 - 390 same as the F-50 GT. If the Japanese never made a gentle man's agreement that they will never make high-performance sports cars that will have more than 300 HP but actually the skyline, Fair Lady Z 300ZX and Supra did, maybe Honda made an NSX that is more than 300 HP. Maybe Nissan made a skyline that is more than 330 HP also a 300 ZX more than 320 HP and Toyota made a Supra more than 350 HP. Honda made a GT-1 NSX but the real super cars that was entered in the race was too much for it to over take and leave behind similar to the situation of the Nissan Skyline GTR R33 which was a beast of a machine but was no match to the likes of the F1, F40, 911 GT1 and CLK-GTR. The NSX and Skyline suffered the same faith that is why these two only continued its campaign in the GT2 category until Honda and Nissan retired it racing in Le Mans. Then Nissan created the R390 GT1 with 2 homologation road car. Supra was entered in GT1 but Toyota never entered it in Le Mans GT1 only in GT2. The Supra GT-1 was entered in the Super GT of JGTC within only 2 years of its season where the JLOC Diablo raced. My point here is if these models/machines was not restricted by the gentleman's agreement similar to the gentleman's agreement of Suzuki and Kawasaki during the mid 2000's of their Ninja and Hayabusa, maybe the Supra, 300 ZX Fairlady Z, Skyline GTR R-33 and R34 and NSX will be better machines in the GT-1 Category. If only Honda Toyota and Nissan made these machine reach more than 350 HP or somewhere around 330 - 350 during its time. Maybe these machines will accelerate 0-60 in 4.0 - 4.5 seconds, the acceleration of an entry level super car during the 90's and 2000's. Let us not forget the Mazda RX-7, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution, Mitsubishi GTO, Subaru Impreza WRX and Tommy Kaira ZZII. If these cars have more than 330 HP in stock and was attempted to be entered in the GT-1 class this is an exciting race to watch. Let us not forget the Corvette Grand Sport ZR-1 and the winner of the GT2 class in Le Mans 24 Hours Dodge Viper GTS-R, a real super car, what if Dodge decided to race in the GT1 Class with their Viper. The F-50 GT and Diablo GT1 was a wasted potential. With all of these reasons I said. It will be an exciting race to watch.
Pretty much. The P1 uses a V8 from the Nissan R390 GT1 program back from the same era of Le Mans the McLaren F1 was from. (With some tweaks). They also use Mitsubishi Turbos.
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This is what happens when a unstoppable force meets an immovable object. Reminds me of Hakkinen vs Schumacher at Spa in 2000...the McLaren was faster on the straights and the Ferrari was quicker at the turns.
Fun fact the McLaren F1 was so ahead of the big car manufacturers that they just outright stripped and copied the McLaren...both Porsche and Mercedes are guilty and now there are documentaries that prove this...the McLaren F1 changed the world. Thank you Mr Murray. 🙏🏼
