Portal 2: Desolation - Graphics Overhaul Showcase 

will this lighting modification eventually be available as a standalone mod for Portal 2, kinda as an alternative to than just changing graphics via reshade filters?

@@itscs1175 Our new Lighting Engine is so intrinsicly tied into the base level code of Desolation that distributing it through other means would be very tricky. Our goal is not to overhaul the graphics for the sake of it - this was a necessary move for the team to do if we wanted to make the game we are aiming for.

Looks outstanding!

@@OssyFlawol ok, i know you were not talking to me, but cant you just take that code, then compile it separately or some "S*!t" like that?

@@gmodandhl2experiments849 We are licensed to use our Source Code access only for Desolation, we wouldn’t be allowed even if we wanted to, plus that would be work that we really don’t want to have to do. Our focus for this graphical technology is for Desolation itself.

is it really you?

:0

hey, you play portal? I love you even more now

You really did it!

You just got a billion sympathy points from me and the boys just by writing this comment.

the only thing i would say is that the static red light while the eye light is moving around looks a lil weird

They should just collectively submit a flash drive with the compiled outputs and their names as a resume. Truly top notch stuff. I know nothing about reflection probes or the like but that sounds like a top notch speed accuracy tradeoff solution to step up from AO a lot but not all the way to the delicate expensiveness of full on ray tracing.

@@fernbear3950 Step up from AO? I don't think reflection probes has much to do with ambient occlusion, but more like reflection and fake GI (global illumination).

@@aflac82 both of those are techniques that AO seeks to emulate cheaply when there's there's no ray tracing/etc. I think this is still a non-raytracing pipeline so butting this up to the closest non RT cousin of RT is something they're doing w/ the reflection probes. This is just my quick spit-take from my personal experience w/game engine lighting.

@@fernbear3950 Just no. AO is basically shading for scenes without direct lighting. Its just that. No relation to reflections or lighting in any way. GI is the polar opposite of AO: its lighting the scene based on surface color and brighness, which needs the light data to emulate or just straight compute light bouncing on defuse surfaces.

I just think it's pretty

You can drop down the graphics to very low but even the original Portal 2 lagged with Integrated Graphics so you are just better off not playing NGL if it's dual core or integrated.

I could not care less with rx 6800

@@petervansan1054 congratulations with your gpu

@@flintfrommother3gaming thank you flint from mother 3

@@flintfrommother3gaming this is the source engine, it might actually run well

the remakes were bad

Yup

Ya a lot of remakes tent to ruin the aesthetic entirely by making it “better” RTX Portal *cough* *cough*

Valve-like level design, baby!

Didn't even notice that, holy. They're doing an outstanding job.

The team is one that is very experienced with creating gameplay for Portal, the fact that the lighting process occurs ingame means that the visual cues are something we can very easily iterate on, so don't worry! It's in good hands :)

@@OssyFlawol Glad to hear that!

shit thats actually a really good question and something ive never thought of!

Let's be real; nobody's gonna play this as their first Portal 2 experience.

@@Freezorgium and? it's not an excuse to poorly design your puzzles

Well, the main reason why Valve had static lighting was performance concerns. Having dynamic lighting was very demanding back then, but I hope and believe that hardware has improved enough to now take the hit without much impact on performance.

This is my only real issue too, glad it isn't just me. I mean, the waves LOOK great, but they just don't feel realistic for the environment. I'm sure there would be SOME tidal action given the apparent size of underground aperture, but the smaller more chaotic waves would be wind driven, and I don't think the airflow would be significant enough to cause that kind of motion. With the huge ventilation systems, I imagine the mines having a laminar airflow, like an enormous fume hood in a lab, which is kinda fitting for the theme too. Like, I am always looking for more games with awesome dynamic fluids, and it DOES look awesome, I just don't think this is the right place for it with respect to the setting. It's almost like the adult models and random grafitti in Half Life Cinematic Mod, though of course no where NEAR as gratuitous, its just flair for flair's sake yknow? That's my thoughts anyways...

That is my only complaint, as well. Hasn't Old Aperture been stagnant for many decades, or possibly over a century, depending on when Portal 2 actually takes place? There's no wind and no machinery moving underwater, so what would even make those big waves seen at the beginning and at 2:30? Some ripples on the water as seen on the original 2D texture makes sense since there's bound to be little vibrations all over the facility from machinery, pipes, and leaks, as well as maybe little drafts of air, but not those 3-5 foot constant waves like there's huge pistons moving underwater.

im sure they only kept that on the video just to show off sort of a new waving water system, because it indeed makes no sense at all

@@Freezorgium But it looks cool though, I don't see why it has to be so realistic.

we need this

Make them collab with the creators of Hammer++

imagine all feature from desolation in p2ce

they will be releasing the level design tools on release and (possibly) a workshop

@@conni-bun :0 that would be incredible for the community

God I hope there's a way to shade portal 2 entirely like this

I now saw your video on rtx portal 2 lmao

He's not wrong, every map in portal 2 uses both precalculated "ray tracing" and projected textures for some dynamic light sources, even half life 1 uses that precalculated ray tracing.

@@PiPi_AE86 I know I just thought it was funny that they showed an environment primarily lit by a dynamic light that isn't using baked lightmaps while talking about baked lightmaps

Not really. Both Titanfall 2 and Apex use Source with PBR materials.

Me too!

We are currently planning to feature a Workshop system much like Portal 2's on release so that people can share custom maps made in Desolation's engine, however, an ingame level editor like Portal 2's one is currently out of the cards. Neither of these are a priority for development.

Nah, PeTI is absolute garbage The good way to do it is to use Hammer, I hope Hammer++ is compatible

@@memememe609 yeah you're right ig, but i am just some pleb who has no idea how to use hammer. I do use beemod at least with PeTI. ...though i do wish to learn hammer

I think it looks great.

Crowbar Collective did too

The tools we use to create Desolation will release once Desolation itself has released :)

@@OssyFlawol Nice to know! Can't wait for that...

Yes dude. That'd be cool

Desolation Creative Director here, all I'll say is the game definitely lives up to its title :)

This is a fair point, our version is a bit darker. We only relit the map for the showcase, so we weren't looking out as much for gameplay like we would for proper maps. Proper visibility is highly important of course, we will be looking out for it and doing playtesting.

I think we can give the player a moment to gasp the whole scene, then a small light flicker and turn on lit up the map panel. That will feels more natural while we can still showcase the new lighting on the scene.

Maybe you could settle for that and we'll just call it a day.

@@szwagier50 I guess we both know that isn't going to happen.

Our tools that we use to create Desolation, such as Mallet (Our version of Hammer) is currently planned to be released when Desolation itself releases :D

@@OssyFlawol You guys are legendary, this is amazing. Thanks so much for all of the hardwork you guys are doing! Cannot wait to design levels with these upgrades.

@@OssyFlawol I hope it's FOSS >.

@@CatwaiiYT Depends on whether it's a completely custom tool or if it's based on Hammer. The actual engine changes can't legally be open source though, I think.

When we release the game someone could use our tools to relight the original portal 2 campaign from scratch, as well as switch all the textures to our updated ones. So upgrading it would be a manual process.

@@MisterLambda thanks for the reply! I hope I'll be skilled enough to do that once the mod comes out lol

Низкие настройки графы вроде никто не отменял

@@kapteyn2618 собственно, это не всегда помогает