Post-War UNSC Capital Ships Explained | Halo Lore 

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What is his name?

Holy cow congrats ecks

Congratulations!

Congrats.

Brett Cardon It’s a requirement to show that clip when we talk about the Infinity!

It was not a covenant carrier, it was a RCS-armored cruiser.

If you look closely you can see the shields trying to push it way.

Tanoshi of M it was a ccs class battlecruiser

B L Actually no he was right it was an RCS you can tell by the spines near the front The reason it was being used was post war covenant splinter factions Because of the lack of modern ships post war because the majority of them were destroyed during the great schism there you go dumbass you’re wrong

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It maintains peace...

I mean look at the Forerunners. They had grunts carrying weapons that could level cities and used armor that could survive a nuke

Speak softly and carry a big stick

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Captain Cutter until the giants get infected by the flood.

Still a cool line

Some nasty Precursor plot may knock 'em right back...

Evidently, humanity is better at reverse engineering Forerunner tech than the Covenant ever were. What worries me about that phrase, is that ONI's "foreign policy" is wayyyy too reminiscent of America's foreign policy. And we all know how well THAT goes. What few independant human colonies remain are going to be pounded into the dirt, and as we've already seen, they're preparing to commit genocide (via starvation) against the Sanghelli by introducing a dominant strain of grain into their ecosystem that, inedible, will knock out their staple food supply.

Epic

How dumb would they have to be to not give their ships shielding?

@@padducks8070 Because before the Human-Covenant War they had no shielding technology, they were extremely reliant on armour for protection. The reason the Infinity got shields is because those shields came from forerunner/covenant technologies which were reverse engineered.

@@Terra-Antares Yes, I know that lol. I'm saying it would be extremely dumb NOT to have shielding if they have the capability of equipping their ships with it.

@@padducks8070 Well let's say your nation's in a war, it managed to win that war despite the odds, now it has to deal with the postwar shock, while at the same time attempting to salvage new technologies from its enemies. In a sense the shielding tech is relatively new to most UNSC Voidships, I'm not saying they aren't getting shields but retrofitting old ships does take time. Let's just wait and see in Infinite.

Pad Ducks yeah I think only being able to use metal armour vs plasma weapons was one of the biggest disadvantages during the war for humanity, and it was a massive advantage for the covenant. Makes perfect sense that now that they won they'd make all ships have shielding.

Zerebrat Eightyseven It's a supercarrier. Dreadnaught is even a bigger ship with brimming with weapons

Supercarrier seems to be the best official name UNSC can think of for it, so far.

The UNSC just needs something thats equivalent to the Covenant Battleship.

Cause the UNSC has the resources to build a ~30km Starship. That said I prefer the UNSC being the underdog when it comes to space battles. It makes their tactics for winning unconventional and interesting.

Nah ships that size would be just impractical

If they have shields then why rely on armor anymore.

@@benmerkle7817 To make yourself harder to kill. The Autumn and Halcyon class' role is to be a tank with point defense, making a hard-to-kill ship that would present a target that's hard to kill, can hit back, and can act as a point defense platform. A ship that would protect larger ships.

Well the Vindication class light battleship along with the posieden class light carriers were originally supposed to appear in the halo 4 visual guide but ended up being cut out, in which case I think they were kinda just lazy and decided to instead say they were old classes of warships

Seems odd to me. Wonder if the UNSC Vociferous is one of them, though?

Seeing as how the home defense fleet was smashed at the start of halo 3 by truth's invasion and only a handful frigates in use through halo 3. I wonder how many older ships even still survive.

Vindication class warships could be a revamped ship or the first ship to use forerunner stuff.

Except that MAC's were in use far before Human-Covenant war.

Well it is suited for the role it's in At least, in the event that it comes toe to toe with hostile sentinels as it scouts the rings it's the most likely to win against them simply through sheer brute force

They did mention in Halo 4 that Infinitys goal is to find the remaining Halo rings and decommission them.

Jonathan Bourne Yeah, but a massive ship like that probably isn't the best scout ship. Also half the time it seems to be in orbit of earth

TheT7770ify got to agree. I wish they made more distinctive ships like the frigate layout used during the war (Paris class, etc). A lot of the modern ones just look like bricks in space or, in the case of the Winter, just generic space plane 578. I really liked the design of the prowler shown in “the package” animated short.

TheT7770ify Unsurprising the Infinity is a ship of both class and size the UNSC has never had experience with. Honestly I’d think of it as more of a “test” ship. It’s successor will more than likely be far more effective than the infinity and used far differently.

Not untill we could see it on our own eyes in real life

Nothing beats a good old brig of war...

@@dynestis2875 it's a covenant super carrier, with forerunner tech. What will we do Captain? Get on the starboard tack, run out the guns, loose royals and rake her stern. Helms a-lee

When John-117 responds to an admiral's 'how'd you do that' with 'sea turtles, mate'.

Hm. Speaking of ships of the line, and outer space, there's this thing called "Battlefleet Gothic", which features what is essentially Age of Sail combat in space.

nice

Master cheif vs Donald trump

Love halo it is the best video game franchise yet

pajeirus saurio Personally I prefer Mass Effect but each to their own

This is it chief

TheRed Hawk I thought it was classified as a super-heavy cruiser...

The Exile I thought so too until I actually thought about it and deduce that Super heavy Cruiser is basically another, longer term for BattleCruiser.

I guess. I liked the moddb website's version, but Spartan Game's design was also good. The Vindication-class recently appeared in the comic Collateral Damage, so supposedly an early war design.

TheRed Hawk no, it was a Super Heavy, it’s slightly larger than a autumn class Heavy cruiser. It got that designation for the amount of destructive weapons systems, notably the large amounts of shive nukes it could launch as well as the archer missiles, rampart 50mm PDGs and 2 MACs.

Duke of Petchington you know, with all that, you could have just as easily be describing the Marathon Heavy Cruiser. The reason it got the name SuperHeavy Cruiser (the technical term is BattleCruiser, but I learned long ago 343 and Bungie didn't give a right arse if it doesn't subscribe to the rule of cool) was because it was one of the most heavily armored ships and was often the lead of many fleets. Plus, during the Human/Covenant war, one of the largest front line ships the UNSC had during the war (if you don't count the Punic as a front line ship and I don't because it's a carrier). The Firepower was about equal to the Marathon. The term "SuperHeavy Cruiser" is one of those Sci-Fi terms that was made up only because it sounds cool, like "Star Destroyer"

finally, after over 100,000 years Humanity is reclaiming its status as a galactic powerhouse. The covvie loyalists will now be hammering thier faces upon our grand fleets of power and dominance. And when we drop the hammer on them. Planets, empires, races, will fall! Oh and the best part.. those pathetic forerunners who thought they were tops cause they beat an enemy that was fighting on 2 fronts.. theyre done, dead, they lost so long ago. Sorry, didact, Im sure you'll make an interesting read in the history archives! /smile Assuming anyone wants to bother reading that. Playing the "How we won the galaxy" game sounds way cooler, and people like cool, not books about boring ego aliens! UNSC forever!

kineticdeath I thought we were pretending that horrid backstory wasn’t canon?

JACCO20082012 Literally, ancient humans is so retarded

Libbyman555 [Kingwolf] idk, I feel the more modern stuff feels a bit generic. The old frigate designs seen in the Paris class was one of my faves that balanced distinctiveness and function. I’m also a bit disappointed they traded the interesting prowler design seen in “the package” with just another space plane.

I like - most - of the backstory, but will agree it has become a bit convoluted by now.

How? Warfleet clearly shows they are ants compared to the mothership. It's necessary. The Infinity class is the only class of UNSC ships that possesses Forerunner engines, not human. If it didn't, it wouldn't have that hangar. They fit very well.

Gravemind the length of the strident is about 490 meters. The height of the infinity is just over 1000 meters. This means that the strident will take up about half of the height of the infinity. Warfleet’s illustration depicts the strident taking about 1/10th or 1/8th of the height. In other words. Then either the strident’s stated length is far too small or the Infinity’s size is too small. This is far from 1/2. The ships in the hangar are going to be about 100 meters in length. If you don’t believe me take a look at the warfleet illustration which can be found online and come back to continue this discussion.

Charon is 490 metres. Strident is 575, as I recall.

I thought that too, It really bothered me.

We see smaller looking Anlace-class frigates in Warfleet, docked with Infinity, but they seem very small. Near 200 metres in the illustration, perhaps.

Replicators, no doubt. Remember, they are immune to energy based weapons. Over 90% of weapons in Star Wars are energy based, and kinetics seem to be mostly used by pirates, not military.

Mass Drivers were used during the clone wars and YZV invasion as some of the mainstay weapons of choice (see AT TE main guns). It depends on how fast SW can adapt

Replicators.

I honestly don't think it's that incredible tbh. Since we're dealing with a united humanity these types of things seem beyond possible, especially to rebuild in such a short time with the advancements in technology, especially considering humanity has integrated a ton of new technology and manufacturing methods.

Earth wasn't the last planet. There were other planets and outposts of people throughout the galaxy.

their sole remain major colony of any real military and economic value

No there were still significant human strongholds. The prophets of regret basically stumbled upon it looking for forerunner artifacts. Planets were bypassed because the prophet of truth wanted to crush the human homeworld.

Ships were called from all parts of the human controlled galaxy for emergency defense indicating other places of value. The lore tells that Earth was attacked a few weeks after Reach and there were no other planets attacked.

I don't know if it's even a proper, long term hangar, or just a temporary loading bay.

It's just weirdly placed. If it was just a little lower it wouldn't annoy me but it makes it look like there's nothing behind that giant engine.

It's design that way to keep on-board Marines & Army platoons away from danger when the Navy engages in space-warfare head-on in defensive positioning.

True, but at the same time I wouldn't want them to be *that* close to the engine. It would be dangerous to say the least.

SoldierMedic they changed the armor because it was easier than making original armor for one cutscene

Why do people keep saying the Dawn is a fucking Paris class? Paris was introduced in Reach, not 3. Paris was/is (we see some in the Infinity's fleet) an offensive/defensive platform, 3's Charon was more of a troop-transport with fighting capabilities. Paris looks very different from the Charon, even if they're built on the same frame. Just look at the side panels on the rear thrusters, Stalwart/Charon were straight, Paris was angled. Also, the Dawn is canonically still a Charon, not some bloated ass Strident (and I *like* the Strident, but the Dawn redesign is like 5 times the size of it! Atmosphere rated my ass!). I think more people would like the Strident if it underwent a redesign to be less overcomplicated. The basic shape should remain the same, but everything should be heavily simplified and made more utilitarian, like the Paris class it's meant to replace, and was clearly heavily inspired by, much like many of the Halo 4 designs (fuck Halo 5's new designs though, your M820 sucks ass, your redesigns worse than most of Halo 4's new designs). But 343 just redesigned everything to be more detailed to look more "realistic" (according to basic bitch modern-space-age design), but this change only really worked on a few designs, like the Warthog, Forerunner architecture, and most Covenant vehicles. The Strident has far too many lights (why do sci-fi craft think glass or LEDS lining the sides of your *combat* craft is a good idea?), the bridge is even more exposed (at least the mid-war frigates could use the excuse of being frontal assault craft, and had part of the MAC's armor protecting it from the front), and is just so overcomplicated feeling. The Strident's heavy armaments and linear shape makes it a good heavy frigate, but it doesn't feel like a utilitarian, "I'm gonna make those shield generators wish they never existed" combat ship that the Paris or Charon did. www.halopedia.org/File:FUD_H3-Hyperion_H4-scaled2.jpg www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-have-s-moa

Interesting ideas

Your trillionth try

@@angloempire6935 if I was that high, I'd probably just give it a go myself lol. But I enjoy Eck's videos and I think he'd do a better job

Star Wars is so hard to compare because the numbers they provide are so bullshit. And I don't mean 40k kind of bullshit. 40k is suppose to be ridiculous. 40k is consistently bullshit. Star Wars is bullshit in the sense that supposedly a lot of ships blasters put out so much energy that it alone would be enough to kill a planet. And yet they need to build a Death Star. Star Wars is inconsistently bullshit. So what do we compare? The on paper statistics? Their visual performance in the movies?

Warhammer always wins because they're not tied to any realistic science, making it really badass

Warfleet has an illustration of an ancient human cruiser (although oddly, I seem to remember that design appearing on BOTH sides in Halo 4's terminals)

I am hoping that ancient human tech is included or at least expanded upon, in halo infinite.

When you say after the battle of Earth, do you mean right after?

_Raph_ _ Yes and the same for the Dominion

@@dalhga3925 then the dominion would probably win then. Seeing as te UNSC only had a couple of ships the battle of Earth

_Raph_ _ In fact , the dominion regroup his entire navy and a large portion of his ground force to resist at zerg invasion. If you want a unbalance battle, take this one : Dominion post- Defenders of Man Insurgency vs UNSC post-battle of Earth.

Terran dominion is more advanced but UNSC has numbers, the victory would depend heavily on the commanders and cyber warfare, and probably many colonies of UNSC would join Terran in exchange for technology.

Jeisson Fuentes I agree with you, the only design i really dont like its the one of the frigates

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TaskForce Wolf141 ohhh I like that

The flood wood demolish the taken

SpicyBacon The Flood wouldn't be able to add the Taken troops to their fold. However, the Taken could "take" Flood forms into their ranks and use them against their own. Not really much of a contest after that.

The taken would probably win because the flood can't infect them but the taken can convert the flood into there own ranks, the taken can pretty much convert anything

At earlier stages no chance for the flood but later stages like the intergalactic stage Flood with all of those physics bending would win

@PETER ZARI This was before #askeck was a thing..

Yeah, it’s still the UNSC heavy carrier

the Post War ships are built for practicality not looks

@@pitied3744 The classic ships were practical. Cubic things are way cheaper than crazy round messes.

@@pitied3744 the old ships were designed based off actual architecture

To be honest, I love the look of UNSC ships because they are more practice looking. They have that Ironclad look that is very similar to a modern warship.

Warhammer beats em all easily.

Agreed, Warhammer 40k wins hands down.

@@BJJGamer Warhammer is cool and extremely tough but the Forerunners definitely have the technological advantage.

RikkiTikkiTavi Against who though? I recall Necrons and Eldar having hyper advanced tech as well.

@@BJJGamer Against just about everyone. They also have the advantage of controlling the entire Milkyway and several satellite galaxies for millions of years. The Imperium is my favorite sci-fi faction because thats how I usually play strategy games ( kill and enslave the xenos) but destruction wise I can't think of anything in 40k that trumps the Forerunners and definitely nothing that trumps the Precursors.

682 easy answer m8

682 would kill anything no matter how strong his opponent is simply because of the fact that he's immortal and regenerates any damage constantly, he would probably become even stronger as the fight goes on and eventually kill Godzilla and then then there will be an immediate k class scenario in effect

@@WhatIsLove170 but 682 has its own limits, obviously godzilla would lose hard, but 682 is one of the weakest offspring of the scarlet king, and at full power, 682 is hyperversal, so we only need a character above or have feats to counter 682's feats to make 682 lose

Yeah, the Paris Class is what always comes to mind when I think Halo. Though, the Infinity might be one of my all-time favorite ship designs in Sci-Fi.

Autumn

Angelo Empire ISD II - turbolasers are far more effective against unshielded targets and particle shielding can tank at least one hit before failing. About "superior MAC accuracy" - if ISD was facing PoA, it would make in system hyperspace jump, so if Halo ships cannot use slipspace to make tactical FTL jumps,ISD will win in point blank engagement

@@Jfk2Mr ISD do not do in system hyper space jumps And I'd like to see it tank a flurry of triple MACS nukes and missiles

Angelo Empire why not? It just require navigational crew to be experienced enough in calculating and executing such jump

@@Jfk2Mr If they could they would and they don't

It looks even smaller in Warfleet, when docked inside Infinity...

The the plate are electromagnetic armour, but have sensors to activate the shield on that section so it does not waste power.

Charon light frigate, Stalwart light frigate and the Paris Heavy frigate. The destroyers were Halberd Class.

@@Duke_of_Petchington honestly all 3 frigate designs are fine. I'm just not a fan of the big bulky UNSC heavy hitters

I like the old frigates better. The Autumn-class and the Poseidon are fine.

Charon needs more love...

@@chrissonofpear3657 or the stalwart