Power Cables - Into The Lair  

I perfectly understand what they have talking about. And it is true. Power cords shielding is a must. There is another interesting thing like power filters for each audio device, that can helps you even better. Shocking better. Even a deaf human simply hear the difference on blind test. I tell you this, because i have it at my home studio. It works absolutely amazing. Better stereo imaging, and clarity. Better bass and overall impulse response only with power filters on the prepared studio power grid. Many peope saying about snake oil, because they didn't make blind tests with shielded and filtered power cords. It is stunning difference, i'm not advertise, just test it. Do the blind test, all of you! Cheers! I'm not hi-end lover, but this is works. Yes, maybe it is too expensive, but do it yourself. read, learn and do it. simple as that. This will costs you much less than buying such cords from a boutique. Again, love your channel, keep up the good work! :) Cheers from Russia! :)

Nah if you don't mind I'll wait until Steven Slate brings the 'Slate IEC Power Cord Plugin Suite'. 🙄

I could hear the difference coming out of my iPhone on RU-vid. Amazing.

I was VERY SKEPTICAL too-UNTIL I TRIED ONE OF MICHAEL'S ESP MUSIC CORDS with my bass amps!!!! I am now a UNSKEPTIC!!! Thank you for a great interview with a very intelligent engineer!

Why all the haters? Try it, if you like it, buy it. If you don't, keep moving!

Nice to see the warmth and respect between these guys.

Any change that is audible is measurable. It's trivial to prove that a replacement power cord improves fidelity by measuring the output of the connected audio device with both power cords. But the people who sell these "placebo based" products never do. Or of they do the data is either fraudulent or incompetent. Shame on Dave for falling for one of the oldest scams in audio. More information, including a detailed explanation of what affects audio fidelity and what does not, is in two AES workshop videos you'll find on my own RU-vid channel.

I'm not gonna say anything negative, because this is over my head. And I do understand gear and mixing. I do know that I can occasionally hear interference in my monitors (Yamaha HS7s) while mixing. I know it's related to my system (switching to SSD drives removed a lot of it). I don't hear the same "hums and chirps" once it's exported out as a WAV or MP3 and playing on another set of speakers. But I can't help but wonder if that interference comes into play when recording direct into my audio interface with guitar and bass, or vocals from a microphone. If there's a problem at the source level that's being recorded, I have no doubt that will influence the mix. I know this video is going to get a lot of hate, but sound (and especially power/electricity) is some pretty complex stuff. I wouldn't write this off as snake oil just yet.

I'm sceptic...I mean the power supplies in the machines are here to store energy with their smoothing capacitors and stuff. If there is a difference, it would vary from gear to gear depending on the power supply design. And what's with that phase thing? An OPamp for example won't distort phase if the circuit is designed properly, regardless of the power chord, there is no phase to fix in what we are hearing from our well designed machines, exept if there are audio transformers but arent we supposed to like what they do (still has nothing to do with power cable). The only thing I could believe here was the fact that shielding the cable is better so you won't get the 60HZ in the studio's magnetic field (but then all the walls should be shielded as well)

It's a funny thing -- gearheads will talk about how various pieces of hardware or software sound, describing the sonics in detail and judging one as clearly better-sounding than another, even if the differences are very subtle, and no one bats an eye. But if anyone, even a seasoned pro like Dave Pensado, has a reaction like this to a CABLE, he's immediately declared corrupt, stupid, or just a fool. Why is that? Cables can and do make a difference to the sound of an audio system. Until you try it for yourself, please don't dismiss the findings of those who have. And if you really do believe that anyone who hears differences among different cables is being fooled, that their ears are faulty, that what they're hearing isn't real, then please explain how Dave and other "fools" can produce good-sounding music day after day after day. I mean, if they can "hear" things that aren't really there, then anything they mix might sound bad. I don't think Dave has this problem.

why so many dislikes?

Im not going to be a hater, and play like i'm a expert like some of you guys on here. i'm just going to buy one and see if i can hear the difference. i know clean power is a factor if it wasn't Mogami and Furman would be a Factor.

awesome interview

If there was a large audible difference, couldn't someone set up a decent measurement mic and record a frequency response graph from the speakers and compare cable A to B? You could see the overlaid graphs and see if there was a difference in the freq curve between the two recordings. Is there any videos of someone doing this?

It doesn't work. The colour of your t-shirt has a bigger difference. This is tragic.

First time seeing the presonus speakers in a studio I respect time to give them another look

anybody in car audio already knows this. The bigger and better (lower gage) the ground wire is the more power gets to the amp and makes it louder and thump harder.

Simple question, if wiring in wall installation is good enough, and cables comming from wall outlet are bottleneck, why not just use same type of installation cables used in the wall all the way to the gear, and keep em as short as possible?

can't believe it... is it the 1st of april in US today?

Why is it not written which cable it is?

I understand all of the negative views, I had them until I plugged in the power cables and heard a difference, a big difference. I was the biggest skeptic on power cords until I heard the difference. I had no problem purchasing these for my tube gear and it was worth it for me. I do understand the other side of the argument, I was there for years, but now I am a believer.

All I'm thinking of is all the award winning global smash hits Dave mixed without these cables.

Power supply really does make a difference in recording engineering, but not for sound? More for the protection and adequate power for your components. Sound?! REally?!

ok.. waiting audio file for comparative test. many test for plughin and gear, no test audio for cable ? ....

For all those saying that this isn't true and it's "snake oil" - prove it. We, here, that want to know about these kinds of things are interested in results. So, inform us. Don't just drop an opinion, stated as fact, and expect us all to take what you're saying for granted. Give us something to read, hear, see, etc. that is directly related to this product. Otherwise, if you're not willing to do that, you're not helping anyone. I don't blindly accept what Dave and co. are saying in this video, either!

Some of the responses concerning power cords are ridiculous. Like suggesting computer analysis of the frequency range, and sonic characteristics, ect. of the cord to prove it sounds better, or makes a difference compared to a stock black molded power cord. That is like, for example, analyzing skin samples, bone density samples, checking body fat ratios, collagen samples, ect. on Ellie Mae, in order to prove she is more attractive than Granny. Just install the power cord in the system, and listen. If someone has to be shown scientific evidence to be able to tell a difference in sound, they might need to find a different hobby.

$200 a cable, $600 for the distributor. Very Pricey!

I think what he is saying is it is worth a try. If it makes a difference and you can afford it then why not. A nice stereo compressor is like 3000.00 If I could hear a difference 137.50 would so be worth it for me. The sales tax was more. I heard a huge difference when I added balanced power. Yes if your whole rig is a beginners than no its not for you, there are better choices for you to invest in, If you have a room like Pensado then it could be worth it.

Oh, and the fact that dislikes outway likes, says a shitload about this...

when it comes to a car, regular gas will work just fine, and the car will run great. You will see no difference between pumping regular gas, vs 91 high octane. Butttttt, if the car was a high performance sports car, you will see a noticeable performance difference.

What about the power lines in your wall not being as good as these power chords? This is snake oil.

no sound test.....

I don't trust his mustache

What is the cable called and what price

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

How are you hearing anything with those tiny speakers in the back,

i dont give 2 hoots about measurements. i care about what i hear. ac cables affect sound. ac conditioners affect sound. regenerators affect sound. been there, done that. i promise not to tell you what you can hear.....dont tell me what i cant hear.

ESP makes great products based on solid engineering principles and concepts. Just buy one and try it out, if you don't like it return it. Simple!

But if you couldn't hear the difference before you got the cables, what difference will it make for the people who listen to the music you've mixed? The only way this would make your music sound good to anyone outside of your studio is if they listened on a system that was of equal quality or better. What demographic is that? haha

dafuq m8, how can u say this ll up a kids game? if anything it ll make it worse because you dont hear what it would sound like on a normal system set up without 600$ cables, besides it would only make sense in a recording setting, how can you even compare it to investing in a daw, i mean i understand that just as protools it is expensive & a fuckload of shit not worth the investment^^

A happy electron is a better sounding electron.

why don't hardwire the amp to the wall socket?? Just put the amp close to the wall, dismantle the wall plug and solder the cables from the wall into the input of the power transformer. Eliminate the power cord!

Dave needs to do a blind A/B. If he can tell the difference consistently, we have something of substance to talk about. Short of that, this is just an infomercial.

I'm sorry, but the wiring in your walls is what it is. Somewhere between 14-10 ga. It might run 10 feet, it might run 100 feet, or whatever before it gets to the socket in your wall. After that, it's just 5 or 6 feet to your stereo, maybe more, maybe less. If anything can be greatly changed and improved in that few feet of cable before your transformers, wouldn't you think that that technology would already be applied inside amps somewhere? This crap reminds me of a guy I used to know who changed the fuse in the back of his guitar amp every month because he swore it made it sound better.

Yap yap yap. This absolutely smacks of experimenter bias / confirmation bias. Stay skeptical.

Oh damn, someone sold out.

This is a repost from like a year ago.

Why so many unlikes? This is an interesting topic and good video.

Oh... god... what the heck is this? :/ Snake oil claims and "quantum freeze aligned atom power cables" in a professional mixing channel? Please don't.

god this is embarrassing. dave pensado of all people should know better, unless hes just in it for a pay cheque which is just as disappointing

$600 for a 6 way power distributor and $150 for a 2 meter cable? Yeah, sure.

7:48 why does wall power not matter?

Seems legit.

I did comment the first upload. I really do find it surprising that they even reupload this episode...

If this dude can walk into Mark Waldrep's studio and change Mark's mind I would take it seriously, until then - meh.

Pure salesmanship. Lost some respect for Mr. Pensado here..

I thought this was snake oil until I ran extensive tests myself with various power cables I already owned. I wonder what the cost of these cables are. I suspect they are too pricey for my studio.

Watched in utterly amazed disbelief, horrified. Waiting for Dave to say the safe-word indicating his statements are made under duress. I can only assume there's a guy with a gun off camera... Aiding and abetting these con artists once is a mistake, doing it twice amounts to complicity. Quoting Pink Floyd - The Wall Socket; "Dave.., Dave.., what has become of you? Is there anybody else out there who feels the way I do..?" For real science please read here; sound.whsites.net/cables-p4.htm#power

Please post your measured results here, ie power cords. A link will do.

Why are all of you so angry? Measure this, measure that. I'm so glad I don't live life like you angry people.

Just Buy a Technical Pro or Livewire power conditioner and dont buy that expensive cable.

At the price of these cables and distributers, it would make more sense just to upgrade my lower end gear, rather than just polishing a turd.

lol power cables

All y'all Skeptics talk and talk and talk....I live in Jamaica and bought my fifth cable thus far and when I say that these cables changed my lifer mean every word...this is the video that also did it for me....thanks again Michael D. Griffin....awesome cables and overall products.

Hospital-grade power cable -NEMA 5-15PHG to IEC 60320 C13 is all you need for any home audio gear or pro audio gear.

This video smells funny.

Pensado is a Great interviewer but simply ignorant of the means by which to test fidelity and the physics behind audio reproduction and circuit design. It is this type of "intuitive" sense of "knowing" how a power supply works that allows con-men to find their mark.

So this is a 20 minute commercial for overpriced power cables, with no audible tests whatsoever? Lemme just put this on the pile with Monster Cable and mixing in Dubly.

dave has officially lost the plot

ANY changes to a Audio or electrical signal in the TRANSMISSION LINES will effect the attached electronics performance,PHYSICS people!!!!!

i dont think dave should of made a video on this. though i believe it to be true, the margin of improvement in the "game of inches" is so small that spending $600-1k on that inch wont help people mix better, and will only provoke the emotional "snake oil" responses

dave really be selling anything these days lol. garbage.

Unsubbed, pile of garbage sponsored video. Mains conditioners yes, thicker power cables with shielding pffffffffffft coff.

0:17 "I want you to 'play along' and witness what's going on." Hmm... What is going on is - Herb has sold Dave Pensado out. Instead of providing informative audio technology information, he does paid advertorials for overpriced snake oil. RIP Pensado's Place and RIP Dave Pensado's reputation. I am not going to 'play along' any longer.

Placebo is a hella of a drug!

Dave has done him self a disservice. I am not saying he doesn't believe he is hearing a difference but he should have conducted an A/B test with a third party before he put his reputation on the line. If there really is a 'night and day' difference people would be able to spot the difference with 100% accuracy under the blind A/B test conditions, and with this proof they would sell huge amount of cables.

you sound and lppk like a liar

Dave is great but damn is he bad at speaking.

That's an entertaining advertisement.

100% rubbish.

More like into the liar... amirite?

This video is confusing.. not impressed...

This is BS without measurements to prove there is a difference.

I smell bullshit.

A-B Comparison? Otherwise I don't believe a word.

Oh, no......I have to change my power lines in my wall...

What happened to Pensado's Place? This is pure garbage.

A guy who builds cables needs a body-guard??

They seem to not know how a good power supply is made, extremely funny.

bla bla bla... Dave oh Dave...

I produce and promote concerts. The system has no power conditioning. At the right venue (acoustics) the system comes extremely close to CD quality. At the volumes we run any hum or hiss is totally audible. Top international artistes tour with great sound engineers, they won’t be too pleased if the sound is ‘dirty’. Bearing in mind we take venue 3 phase or from gensets (sometimes the cabling and db boxes leave a lot to be desired), yet sound is clean, clear with great dynamics.

Using this cable would be like putting the little chrome tip on your car exhaust. It might look cool but does nothing for the performance of the car. Same with this cable.

Sounds like bullshit to me. Shielded power cord: Having a couple of feet of shielded power cord will have zero effect in comparison to the miles of unshielded copper cable from the power company's step-down transformer to your wall outlet. The claim that the shield on the power cord protects signal cables nearby from the induced radiation: This is rubbish, because shields don't affect magnetically induced radiation unless they are ferric (and I seriously doubt these are ferric). And have nearly zero effect on radiated interference at low impedance (which power cords are) at 50 or 60 Hz. Power cable is spiral-wrapped like a CAT-5 cable: Supposedly to reduce pickup of interference through common-mode rejection - but this is again negated by the miles of untwisted cable from power company's transformer to your wall outlet. He is talking about psycho-acoustic effects, not physical/measurable effects - which are more likely to be caused by placebo effect in this case as a result of failing to conduct a proper blind A/B test. Where's the technical data? Or the mechanical design discussion explaining how it works? Or the signal plots showing hard evidence? Non-existent.

Nothing measurable but verbiage.

This is ridiculous.