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Power Stealing Characters: A Comparison 

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Now, full disclosure here- a combination of writer's block, university kicking into high gear, and my view count heavily dropping made it really hard to work on anything RU-vid wise for a hot while (and, going by how the algorithm isn't too kind to those who disappear for a while, the latter likely won't be resolved for a good bit).But: I'm back!! And better than ever! I hope so, at least. That's up to you to decide! Likes and sharing are super appreciated.
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@MerryMelodyCH
@MerryMelodyCH Месяц назад
Pucci probably thanks that "Stand users attract other Stand users" rule every day for his stand collection
@Irelevant472
@Irelevant472 29 дней назад
That rule is especialy prevelant in part six, it lead the sons of Dio to pucci
@BluePhoenix_
@BluePhoenix_ Месяц назад
There is actually one restriction to AFO's ability. If the original user's quirk factor is damaged, the stolen power is useless. Doesn't make sense, because his body doesn't have, let's say, no hands. But that's the explanation.
@bananabanana484
@bananabanana484 Месяц назад
If you’re referring to Overhaul, there are reasons not to grab it. He can already defeat a person through contact, he has better AOE options, and it is probably too complex of a quirk (risks quirk Singularity). Which is why he let Shigaraki handle the transformation, and be the holder for a more destructive version of the quirk (I’m pretty sure the reveal was that Decay is a modified Overhaul that lacks a reconstruction aspect). And he would only have realized the potential combo of “Rewind Bullet + Overhaul” to rewind himself but then use Overhaul to stop the rewind while he’s at his peak long after he had the chance to grab Overhaul. TLDR: Complex quirks were potentially dangerous for All for One at the time, Shigaraki had a better version on hand, and he lost the chance when Overhaul was recaptured
@victorctct
@victorctct Месяц назад
@@bananabanana484 iirc, its kind of implied that AFO got access to Overhaul. Why? In a chapter it was said that Shigaraki's Decay is a quirk derived from another that could also rebuild things, AFO just removed the reconstitution part. Also Decay and Overhaul are very similar.
@Blueskies1047
@Blueskies1047 Месяц назад
@@victorctct In that same panel they also show a picture of a much younger overhaul, so they likely copied his quirk by genetic sampling instead of direct theft. Also IIRC the overhaul quirk requires a good amount of skill to master, and since AFO prefers raw power over skill-based quirks it makes sense why he wouldn't take it for himself.
@DJmouchi777
@DJmouchi777 Месяц назад
@Blueskies1047 Nothing about Overhaul implies it is difficult to use. That's just fanon that everyone treats as canon for some reason. Nowhere in the actual series or the guidebooks is it said that Overhaul is difficult to use.
@TheBlaze22b
@TheBlaze22b Месяц назад
Buddy Hawks quirk factor was damaged. AFO commented on this and stole it anyway
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
Somehow, Kurapika *SPOILERS* ...has become the best example of a protagonist that can steal powers. Plenty of conditions that are hurting him, but he's singlehandedly affecting the outcome of the Succession War by making more powered allies.
@xzkilerymax8395
@xzkilerymax8395 Месяц назад
can't he seal powers not steal them though???
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
@@xzkilerymax8395 He can do both. Father Time can cut/paste abilities in the Succession War
@Nourpy
@Nourpy 22 дня назад
If someone asks what's going on in HxH's current arc, I'll just show them this comment
@YataVSTheWorld
@YataVSTheWorld 21 день назад
Kurapika in a way is both a good and bad case of this kind of characters... Because while the conditions seem to be severe and are really not in a pratical sense... Those are long time conditions compared to solve a life or death situations. To be honest I had never fully understood why in anime/manga people consider those truly invalidating... Does it really matter if using X you wil suffer something bad ten/twenty years from now if you don't using X means you most likely die in minutes ? It's a drawback that rarelly is as hard as it seems unless in super specific circumstances that (probably to balance stuff out) by chance happened to Kurapika himself
@dumpsterfire5886
@dumpsterfire5886 Месяц назад
This guy copied my ability to sell fentanyl
@Lobomaru02
@Lobomaru02 Месяц назад
The thing about All For One is that certain powers he didn't take was because when it comes to Quirk selection, he's kind of a lazy bum. During the Kamino Incident All For One noted that Best Jeanist's Fiber Control was incredibly powerful, but only because Best Jeanist put in the years of training needed to hone it. When given a choice between a single powerful Quirk that takes a long time to master or a large number of individually weaker Quirks that when combined are greater than the sum of their parts, All For One will select the latter every. Single. Time.
@jetcaspian2882
@jetcaspian2882 Месяц назад
Good answer. Very true. He was as lazy as he was confident.
@6milhõesEm5AnosÉLorota
@6milhõesEm5AnosÉLorota Месяц назад
"It wouldn't pair well with Tomura's disposition" he was looking dor quirks to Shigaraki, he wouldn't be training just to get stronger with a quirk if there are already other ones with low effort high reward ones.
@Cyberlele02
@Cyberlele02 22 дня назад
Yeah, he doesn't take difficult quirks because they'd be too time consuming to master
@thedaedrasociety5329
@thedaedrasociety5329 Месяц назад
Very well put together video, i totally agree with the point that if you introduce a power to a fight that counters an ability it needs to be foreshadowed. However i actually think this should be with powers in general not just power stealing abilities.
@themadmagpie1742
@themadmagpie1742 Месяц назад
Oh! Well, thank you! Much appreciated :)
@RedLordOfAlagadda
@RedLordOfAlagadda Месяц назад
I have to disagree with your take on the Pucci boiling water thing. The *point* of that is that it's an unsatisfying and abrupt conclusion. Pucci is kind of a foil to Diavolo. Diavolo believed he could escape fate with his Stand, so fate punished him infinitely using Giorno's death loop as a vector to do so. Pucci's entire plan was to enforce fate across the universe even more than it already was, so fate rewarded him by giving him a deus ex machina. Fate is an actual force in JoJo that explicitly exists for every character. With the exception of Tooru and post-Go Beyond Gappy (and *maybe* post-Requiem Giorno), it's very clear that fate is supposed to be both deterministic and biased. It feels like a deus ex machina for Pucci to have that ability, because it literally *is* a deus ex machina in universe meant to reward him.
@xplorer2111
@xplorer2111 Месяц назад
Also Pucci pretty much created FF and knew she deflected, so it makes sense that he'd prepare appropriate counter measures
@mrfact03s
@mrfact03s 24 дня назад
you're wrong about toru, josuke as an exception, toru died as he wanted to overcome the natural order of nature itself which is why josuke was born (from a fruit and the ground) as a miracle to removed the treat (toru) from the world
@lkb-sm9tg
@lkb-sm9tg Месяц назад
If you want good a power stealer check out Hero Killer where EVERY power that is stolen you see first and is acquired on screen plus the MC gets very creative
@fastpanrat
@fastpanrat 29 дней назад
DUDE IHWA IS POWER STEALING DONE RIGHT!!!
@fastpanrat
@fastpanrat 29 дней назад
Who’s your favorite character?
@lkb-sm9tg
@lkb-sm9tg 29 дней назад
@@fastpanrat Bishop, probably he just interests me a lot
@whitedespairblackhope9159
@whitedespairblackhope9159 26 дней назад
Was wondering if I’d see some mention of Hero Killer in the comments here. Best example of power stealing I’ve ever encountered.
@ElGatoSushi3D
@ElGatoSushi3D 25 дней назад
DUDE IHWA IS GOD TIE, LOVE HER IN EVERY WAY still not my fav character there but thats bcuz the other ones are a bit better characters but it doesnt mean ihwa is bad, shes a really good mc to be honest
@KaX321
@KaX321 Месяц назад
In fanon mha, its commonly seen that Afo can't handle 'newer, more powerful' quirks, because the quirk singularity is apparently a thing and his body is from the old generation. A shame canon didn't even bother with an explanation for him jobbing.
@cinderanimations9935
@cinderanimations9935 Месяц назад
Explaining how Kenny survived the black hole. A couple things we need to know. Curse technique lapse amplifies the curse technique making it stronger think gojo’s lapse blue compared to his normal blue Domains increases curse energy output to 120%. The body is a domain. This is why characters who can spawn things can’t spawn things inside their opponents. It’s also why character have an inner world. Think Sukuna and Yuji. Domain expansions are taking this inner world(innate domain) and bringing it into reality So Kenny’s technique allows him to control gravity. When the black hole starts opening Kenny uses his Ct lapse to amplify his curse technique then he uses his body as a domain to bring that amplified curse technique to 120% this allowed him to resist the pull of the black hole. As his gravity technique is negating the black holes pull.
@martinscarton4561
@martinscarton4561 Месяц назад
I always thought it was more that anti gravity system just hard counters that maximum technique since sure its a crushing blackhole but if u are unaffected by gravity u r unaffected by the crushing effect of the gravity and it doesnt actually physically exist so its just a gravity well
@glogangglory
@glogangglory Месяц назад
While ur not wrong about body’s being domains, this situation is more like Kenny sheathing himself in a domain. I think of it like using Domain Amplification but WITH a cursed technique.
@revenantronin8377
@revenantronin8377 Месяц назад
Lapse is just the opposite yet logical application of one's Curse Technique, it doesn't amplify the power output, just the outcome itself. So, for example: My CT is water. My Lapse application of Water CT would be something like Ice. And my Reverse application of Water CT using positive CE (RCT) would be the opposite of the Ice CT (instead of the base application of Water), granting me something that has to do with extreme heat. So you start out with WATER Lapse it forward into ICE. And Reverse your Lapse into, let's say STEAM. So... The CT that Kenjaku originally stole from Kaori Itadori was Anti-Gravity System. So for example, she can fly, lift things telekinetically within limited range and such. He then reversed it in such a way that it no longer granted him immunity to gravity, and in return his range widened, and he could instead manipulate gravity around him. He then Lapsed the CT, in such a way that it applies the wider range of the Reverse application on things around him, not just himself. So when he used Lapse, the Anti-Gravity field(I guess you could call it that), affected the entire blackhole as a whole not just Kenjaku, suppressing the gravitational pull of the Blackhole allowing him to detach himself from it. So when he states that his body became a kind of domain, all he's saying is that anything within a certain range of himself was affected by Anti-Gravity including the Blackhole, nullifying it as a domain normally would in that situation. It's not so convoluted if you understand how Lapse, Reversal and the Neutral CT works in the series. Gojo is the best example of this. Limitless CT's base is just Neutral Infinity. When he lapses it, it becomes Blue where previously Space simulates _Infinity_ it now creates a void of negative space. The Reversal effect of Neutral Infinity is to create positive space, adding +1 to a whole Infinity, essentially causing it to overload and explode which creates the repulsion of space. The opposite of Lapse which is the attraction (this is how Gojo teleports too). And seemingly, you can apply lapse and Reversal to your Domain expansion as well. For example; Naoya's domain makes him stationary yet makes it so that his opponents need to move in a certain number of frames otherwise they die. You'd initially think that his domain freezes people in time while he can move freely, but we get the opposite making it a Reversal type Domain.
@2RatsInATrenchCoat
@2RatsInATrenchCoat Месяц назад
this comment section alone has taught me more than any video I've seen trying to explain CE, just because it explains what lapse is besides gojo calling it out when he uses blue I've never heard it being brought up at all, even when ppl try to explain everything about CE
@glogangglory
@glogangglory Месяц назад
@@2RatsInATrenchCoat yea lapse is quite literally just the normal function of a CT
@comradecatbug5289
@comradecatbug5289 Месяц назад
My issue with AFO is that we never even get any examples of the quirks he has. All he ever does is conjure up some amalgamation in a "Random Bullshit! Go!" way. It's boring and unimaginative. He'd be much cooler if he actually showed quirks separately.
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 Месяц назад
“Behold using my near unlimited quirks I will either shoot a concussive force of air, punch you really hard, or hit you with spikes!”
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 Месяц назад
Tf? We know what quirks he has😂
@comradecatbug5289
@comradecatbug5289 Месяц назад
@@jasonblack2477 Yeah he's mentioned he has like IR vision and a couple others like that, but aside from that all he ever did was just namedrop some random quirks ("musculoskeletal coiling") without explaining or showing what they do. And that's obviously still a fraction of his collection of quirks.
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 Месяц назад
@@comradecatbug5289 season 3 also named a lot. We even know his very first quirk. "Spearlike bones"
@comradecatbug5289
@comradecatbug5289 Месяц назад
@@jasonblack2477 But simple namedrops don't mean much of anything when they aren't elaborated on. If I say "punchy punch" or "rippling blast" or "teddybear muscle" before I attack, it doesn't add any context. Dropping names means nothing on its own. You might as well say any two words and it doesn't really change anything.
@marcusupdegraff5870
@marcusupdegraff5870 Месяц назад
Is it just me? Or did everyone else immediately think "ETHO" agressively as soon as the video started
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Месяц назад
Pff I mean I kinda got excited because I watched so many Kakashi clips cause of Etho so in a way lol
@worthyedge9307
@worthyedge9307 Месяц назад
What does that stand for??
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Месяц назад
@@worthyedge9307 is well-known old-school minecraft youtuber and all around chill computer gremlin, called Etho on the channel Etho's Lab
@Someguyonline7732
@Someguyonline7732 Месяц назад
No idea what you guys are talkin about
@play.games.2009
@play.games.2009 Месяц назад
They are talking about ethoslab a Minecraft RU-vidr that uses a kakashi skin , who is also extremely good at redstone
@Nedoiko
@Nedoiko Месяц назад
Not to justify how AFO does it, but if i recall its explained that because AFO is of the first batch of quirks that appeared, it is "relatively simple", and because of the quirk singularity theory, quirks become more complex after each generation, to the point that AFO can't steal them anymore after a certain point, I think it was mentioned during the star and stripe fight that with the improvements in Shigaraki's body, he would be able to take New Order
@randomdude6446
@randomdude6446 Месяц назад
He can steal them but he can't use them properly without training so it's pointless
@YetiCat28
@YetiCat28 Месяц назад
Part 6 JJBA SPOILERS I hated how FF died, because I loved her character and her outlook on life. That being said, it's shown multiple times how Pucci has seemingly random stands that Dio gave to him or he found naturally. He comments on this with the stand survivor. Furthermore, when he just so happens to have the stand that boils water, he comments on how it must have been fate for him to have the exact thing he needed in that situation. Given how we learn in part 6 that fate is canon, it actually felt very deliberate-and maybe even good forshadowing-for Pucci's plan to go off without a hitch when all the odds were against him. If this weren't the case, then my boy Weather could have survived too.
@mrfact03s
@mrfact03s 24 дня назад
no he collected that boiling water stand from someone he just didnt throw it away, which is why he said "it must be fated"
@YetiCat28
@YetiCat28 23 дня назад
@@mrfact03s I... said that though
@terrigo3987
@terrigo3987 Месяц назад
My favorite take on this trope is from Choujin X (spoilers) One of the two deuteragonists, Ely, has the ability to steal powers from other characters. The way that powers in this series work is that "choujin" (literally translates to "superhumans") have powers born from some deepseated complex of theirs. Ely's late mother was a notorious thief and murderer who terrorized her homeland, and Ely grew up terrified of the idea that she would one day follow in her mother's footsteps, which is ultimately what gave birth to her abilities. Now, because of Ely's complex surrounding her mother, she only ever uses her power stealing abilities when she absolutely needs to, and even then she'll almost always give her opponents back their powers so as not to become a "thief" like her mother was. It's one of the rare instances where this ability is actually used as a symbolic motif for the character's personality, which I really love.
@WaituSnaiku
@WaituSnaiku Месяц назад
Just to say it, the stand Discs need to be compatible with the users in order to be actually usable
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 Месяц назад
And you probably can’t exactly be permanently giving someone more than one stand just judging by the fact he didn’t
@Irelevant472
@Irelevant472 29 дней назад
​@@beywheelzhater8930 we have 2 instamces were this was somewaht the case ff with the boiling wahter (but ff is a wieard case in the first place) and emporio (were you could debate if he lost burning down the house in that Moment, considering how the stand works) . But overwise one stand per Person is a General rule in jojo Accept for sub and Parasiten stands
@mrfact03s
@mrfact03s 24 дня назад
@@beywheelzhater8930 he can give at least upto five disc
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime Месяц назад
A magpie talking about stealing powers is appropriate
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Месяц назад
0/10 No Master Chen or Skylor from Ninjago.. or Nadakhan.. or kinda overlord... man that show has a lot lol jk btw
@tekdaystar345
@tekdaystar345 Месяц назад
A few things, Chrollo acquired the powers from the Hisoka fight in the year of prep time he got. And as for Pucci, when he gives you a stand disk, compatibility or lack there of determines if you can even use it
@maozedong7536
@maozedong7536 Месяц назад
The Mad Magpie Strikes Back
@ianyoder2537
@ianyoder2537 Месяц назад
One version of the power stealer that I think is really well done: Iwah from the Hero Killer Manwa. She has 2 versions of the ability with their own strengths and restrictions. The first is she permanently gains another character's power after she's killed sed character. She must deal the final blow, if they are killed by another, kill themself, or somehow survive the fight then she can only use the second option. The second she can use another character's power only once if she's touched sed character. She uses these one off powers to save herself in when she gets into tough fights. However there are greater restrictions to both versions of the power stealing. First is she has a limited amount of est (the basically magic of the setting,) meaning there's a limit to how many powers she can steel including the one off powers. If she tries to take to many she will get sick or could even die. The other limit is her own skill with the power is not always the same as the original user. She's always shown to be training with her permanent powers, finding new ways to use and improve upon them. But her one of powers are often shown to be weaker than the original user.
@fastpanrat
@fastpanrat 29 дней назад
Who’s your favorite character? 👁️👄👁️
@ianyoder2537
@ianyoder2537 29 дней назад
@@fastpanrat Smiling man. If you're gonna have a story where the main characters are the villains, then make a proper villain.
@realo3503
@realo3503 Месяц назад
Maybe it’s just because I keep running into bad examples, but I dislike when one of the main cast or main characters have power stealing powers.
@whitedespairblackhope9159
@whitedespairblackhope9159 26 дней назад
14:38 Okay now that line was just perfect. Got a good laugh at that one.
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Месяц назад
I think it would be worth talking about protagonists with power stealing ability, because there situation even worse. There are few of such stories that are entertaining, but I won't call them good.
@themadmagpie1742
@themadmagpie1742 Месяц назад
Oooh, interesting! I admit that nothing much comes to mind besides Yuta and maybe Kakashi, who would you be thinking of?
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Месяц назад
@@themadmagpie1742 well, if speaking of decent use of trope, first that comes to my mind is Kim Dokja from Omniscient reader viewpoint and protagonist of SSS-rank suicide hunter. Bad examples are protagonists of Arifureta and fruit of evolution.
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Месяц назад
There's also Rimuru, but I kinda neutral about them.
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
​@@themadmagpie1742Omniscient Reader has an ability called Bookmark where they can copy the powers of a character they have a bond with, and the deeper the understanding, the more of their power they can access. Limited number of bookmarks that increases over time.
@snowboundwhale6860
@snowboundwhale6860 Месяц назад
The sharingan is a bit of a mess due to how it just kept getting more additional abilities, but it's always been a bit off to me for how it was introduced as a really sharp eye that lets you copy other people's techniques and hypnotise people, only for that first part to steadily get less showings despite being stated as the most important ability it had. Kakashi copies Zabuza's water vortex & clone, then later Sasuke copies Lee's taijutsu, then seems to use it to speed-learn chidori but still has to train to actually be able to use it effectively. There's plenty of the sharingan seeing through movements/ techniques in real time but the amount of seeing sharingan users doing things we've seen them watch others do happens surprisingly infrequently, especially when that aspect of it was the main motivator for Orochimaru's interest. There's a lot of things that you can assume they used the eye for, but also maybe they just learned it normally and we'll never know.
@Neeeeeeeeeto
@Neeeeeeeeeto Месяц назад
about kenjaku, The technique on his domain expansion he uses is from itadori's mother and it was basically increase gravity to the target and he just reversed the technique when fighting against the black hole
@christiantate8003
@christiantate8003 Месяц назад
I believe one of the reasons all for one can’t steal new GEN powers because they’re just too complicated or required too much to be put into it to actually get any use like he’s not gonna steal momo‘s quirk no matter how overpowered it is because it require years of studying when he could just get a bunch of different powers that don’t require that and get the same effect permeation also took years of training to be just manageable him not getting overhaul is actually a very broad question as he did have access to it for a while before he was locked up, but I wouldn’t put it past him to leave powers open so that they could either have kids to create better power Or be in strategic locations either get out of later date after they for for fill a rule and by the time he would’ve had a second chance to get overhaul,, he was already in state where he was gonna go kill himself and take over a different body why still potentially very valuable cork in a body that’s gonna disappear when you could just steal it in the other one and he also probably wanted to be make sure he was the one in control before taking it keep in mind the key is a straight up clone of it just with destruction instead There’s also very much possibility that as the course for passed on, became too complicated and into working for his first GEN quirk to fully comprehend and get all the required parts has more powerful variant stored away in his back pocket Or just has enough of them that that’s some very potential powers just look through the cracks as he is known going for simple powers as not to have to train a shit ton every goddamn quirk and when you have a few thousand of them or even just a few, hundred you’re not gonna want to do that you can just get one and do the same thing He does have limits, especially after being injured. There just very loosely defined Also keep in mind all the powers we see with users are in their original users or have had them for years and have years of training and him basically wanted to update his quirk as why he chose to steal a body of a new Gen his body will be more compatible with them
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
You forget another thing that's useful for power stealers, in that by stealing powers, enemies are left powerless even if they themselves don't know how to use the ability. With Choso specifically, AFO comes off as a fool for not just giving that quirk to his doctor who definitely would make good use of it for AFO. He already gene splices quirks, Overhaul would speed up the process considerably and maybe result in more higher grade Nomu being produced. It's easy for mangaka to overlook these things while working every week, but it's still a plot hole.
@christiantate8003
@christiantate8003 Месяц назад
@@commonviewer2488 I am not denying that keep in mind Decay was literally cloned from overhaul and they had enough control over it to modify it to take out the reconstruction aspect so they obviously could just make another one I think the reason they didn’t it’s because of something we don’t know from for all we know what you need to know the make up of things like creation sure you can destroy things just fine but doing any of the wacky stuff overhaul is doing that probably need some serious knowledge not to mention having to train the actual quirk to do that and keep in mind the doctor is old in a second quirk might just kill him we seen what 2 Powers do to a person They age faster and die and I believe overhaul was also in a place that was basically full back ups in case is Body snatching plan failed he had back ups in case the one he was going for dies and off one seems more the type to try and steal your quirk then kill you then kill you so he might not have taken it due to wanting to actually steal the quirks cause you might he wanted one for all so using it against all might and the first fight we’ve been against his wishes and destroy one for all The second fight he wanted to get captured so his plans to be sent in motion again no reason actually kill all might at least not out right beating him sure then killing him on television but just one shot in him will cause negatives Where he can’t be captured without looking suspicious at least if all might in him actually fight and he gets very damaged look less suspicious if the other heroes me to take them out after all might and him fight
@nicholalehtimaki3597
@nicholalehtimaki3597 Месяц назад
I don’t understand what so bad about Pucci having a stand that can boil water. Just because it’s a perfect counter? It’s already established that Pucci has a wide variety of stands so I don’t think it’s that unsatisfying or unbelievable.
@flameze5019
@flameze5019 Месяц назад
The thing about Kenjaku is Not every curse has a CT, 99% of his million curses are Below Grade 1, which Only leaves like 20 or so with a cursed technique, Grade 1's and Special Grades
@allengrove1864
@allengrove1864 29 дней назад
I can explain how Kenjaku survived to the black hole It's a combination of the fact that the black hole was being purposely held back by Yuki as to not injure tengen and him using reverse curse technique to turn gravity manipulation into anti-gravity manipulation. He just used it at maximum output to not get pulled into the black hole. Until Yuki died and the technique ran out.
@mc-tu9zw
@mc-tu9zw Месяц назад
There's technically another power stealer in my hero. It's the guy who eats animals and gets powers from them
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
Suneater. Completely underrated, they should've fed him strands of hair/nail clippings to use any combination of quirks.
@wheresprototype3507
@wheresprototype3507 Месяц назад
Nah, that's more of a copy.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic Месяц назад
What about guy who can copy quirk for short time after touching you if that counts? From B class MHA
@wheresprototype3507
@wheresprototype3507 Месяц назад
@MihajloNastic that's not stealing, that's copy. It's literally the name.
@MihajloNastic
@MihajloNastic Месяц назад
@@wheresprototype3507 I said if that counts cuz Kakashi doesnt steal either
@thedarknessinthelight9824
@thedarknessinthelight9824 Месяц назад
AFO not stealing Overhaul? He couldn't. The only sample of Overhaul he had he [REDACTED DUE TO SPOILERS, you'd know if you read the final bout] and he wouldn't have known about the second coming of Overhaul due to being in Tartarus and Shigaraki getting rid of Overhaul's ability to use his quirk again after losing to Deku. Shigaraki would have no reason to tell AFO about the quirk due to his disdain for the user, thus he'd be under the impression that Overhaul is just a quirkless guy with mental trauma of some sort. AFO didn't steal Kurogiri's teleportation because Kurogiri was a Nomu programmed to serve the league of villains and under his command by extension. Just like Gigantomachia, AFO had absolute authority over them, so he had no thoughts that they'd end up set-backs in his plans. The reason why he didn't try to take Erasure again is because his quirk would either get disabled before he got the chance to steal it, literally EVERYONE around him would take care to ensure it doesn't happen, or because he literally doesn't have *EYES...* That and also the fact that [REDACTED DUE TO SPOILERS, but DW since it's coming to the anime soon]. Stars and Stripes? You know what happens. Endeavor's Fire quirk? We saw how that went. Todoroki's Half-hot Half-Cold? He'd need to get past Endeavor first, assuming he'd even want it considering how he views Bakugou and his quirk as gold-fish poop. One For All? Did you watch the show? Nine's ability is just AFO's but weaker. Cell-Activation? Horikoshi would need to work the movies into the manga first, which he wouldn't be able to do since he directly said that "The movies are stories I'm not able to write into the manga" (not the exact quote but is close enough) even though they're canon to the story. Any other OP quirk either belongs to a villain already dealt with, working with AFO already, someone dead, or someone AFO has no reason to go after due to not hearing about it. The only characters AFO has control over relating to heroes is Aoyama and a few civilians, none of these characters have confidential-levels of intel, so they wouldn't have information on EVERYTHING the heroes know. IDK why I went on this whole ass tangent defending AFO but, here it is.
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 28 дней назад
He also is ass at bringing Full Potential out of quirks that require a lot of skill in improving them, and he could never awaken the quirk due to being emotionless manipulator, and he could get overwhelmed if he takes too many from strong willed people.
@timmywoo3572
@timmywoo3572 Месяц назад
All for ones can steal unlimited quirks(idk I think don’t quote me on that), but the limitation is rather because his body can’t handle the stronger quirks the new generation offers
@williamhanna9718
@williamhanna9718 Месяц назад
Not to mention he does state that he largely stopped stealing quirks after being crippled by All Might. I’m fact we don’t see him steal anyone’s quirk on screen until he uses the Rewind ability to regain his physical prime.
@timmywoo3572
@timmywoo3572 Месяц назад
@@williamhanna9718 yea
@xmoore5659
@xmoore5659 24 дня назад
Actually no. He stated that their is a quantifiable limit to the amount of quirks he can steal. Part of the reason why he passed it on to Tomura was because Tomura's hatred was powerful enough to increase the amount of quirks he could collect and also steal One for All.
@timmywoo3572
@timmywoo3572 24 дня назад
@@xmoore5659 neat I didn’t know that
@dekiru4979
@dekiru4979 20 дней назад
​@@xmoore5659actually no, what limits the amount of powers he can steal is his body, in fact I don't remember him mentioning at any time that he has any limit on individualities.
@CyrilZhe
@CyrilZhe 27 дней назад
Kenjaku actually used his gravity CT against Choso. So, there was foreshadowing that he can use gravity CT.
@nziom
@nziom Месяц назад
What is your opinion on Quincy stealing bankai
@parkersmith8711
@parkersmith8711 Месяц назад
I think Crolo is a perfect example, its complicated to balance how powerful it is and he needs to be smart with it, Pucci is great since he can't even really use the stolen stands on himself
@justintyner9615
@justintyner9615 Месяц назад
My favorite power stealer is Sylar from Heroes. He had to study the power he wanted to steal (originally by fatally removing and studying the victims brain), thus slowing down his power steal ability. Plus, his ability also gave him a perfect understanding of his new powers, so he always had maxxed out abilities with it, so it ultimately made him a good antagonist without making him so overpowered that he couldn't be beaten (for instance, he was never able to catch or kill a time manipulator, so his most OP powers were telekinesis and regeneration, as well as the fact his original power has uses other than power stealing.)
@YataVSTheWorld
@YataVSTheWorld 21 день назад
Where in Kenjaku's case given both those fight were overall planned beforehand... It made sense they send the two people able to ignore the contributions of the Cursed Spirits from the fight.
@Rdc_Dom
@Rdc_Dom Месяц назад
Can't make a power stealing video without an honorable mention to the copy ninja Kakashi Hatake
@GGboi69
@GGboi69 Месяц назад
You cant read bro? Its says Stealing power characters not copiying
@lesiropalamenthe6100
@lesiropalamenthe6100 Месяц назад
Taskmaster is a really cool one too in the world of comics
@Nedoiko
@Nedoiko Месяц назад
on the topic of MHA, how do you feel Monoma does it? I particularly like that he can copy certain quirks but not necesarily their current accumulated output
@victorctct
@victorctct Месяц назад
My way of dealing with power stealer is in fact a consequence of how I deal with having multiple powers in general. Its unstable to have multiple powers in my world. Why? Because most power are concepts(usually 1-2 words), so the way the concepts interact with eachother can create dangerous and unpredictable effects if done wrong. In fact my powers being concepts is a way for both superpowers and magic be part of the same power system, the difference between a SuperHuman and a Wizard is that a SuperHuman has 1 or 2 fixed words that they can manifest but in a very powerful way, while a Wizard's uses spells with incantations that use a very small power from each word to create an elaborate effect. So explaning again, having multiple powers basically makes you like a Spell Book, but you dont really know which spells are written in it, and the more powers you have the more unpredictable your powers become. I have an example witha Character that has only 2 powers, but he does not know he has any, but they are always active. He has 2 very strong powers, but having both makes so that he cannot use either, he is a joke character. -Power 1: if he touches X type of person he then can create numerous replicas of that person that will all be under his control -Power 2: he applys "rules" to the gravitational field of the planet, this "rules" can reverse it, applify it, change its direction and more, they also can be global or localized. Power Combination unknown to him: A new "rule" is create where that X type of person will experience reversed and amplified gravity in all of the planet. Yeah, this character is responsible for millions of death just because the 2 powers he has. But his existent also allows some weird things to happen: -Like if you make a person become X for a limited amount of type, you could make them have superJump/flight. And of course I do it.
@VadidLawrence
@VadidLawrence Месяц назад
I have a deep hatred of how the main characters, in a world of really cool powers, just punch hard, it's just so boring
@laggyboi5728
@laggyboi5728 Месяц назад
what about one punch man tho
@WaituSnaiku
@WaituSnaiku Месяц назад
​@@laggyboi5728He punches *REALLY* good
@jacksonhoiland2664
@jacksonhoiland2664 29 дней назад
​@@laggyboi5728well for him that's the entire point, whereas in others it just is what they happen to have.
@DarkinBladeGaming
@DarkinBladeGaming Месяц назад
All For One does have a limit, and its how Quirks work. For one, basically every ability in the verse requires training to bring out its full potential, and while All For One might be a great planner and manipulater, he is absolutely shit at self-improvement and will never actually put in the time to master his powers, nor would he have time to do it to all of them. So he collects strong quirks that are easy to use while dismissing difficult but awsome Quirks. Secondly, Quirks and their strength are tied to emotions, which All For One can't take advantage of because he's a natural psychopath. He will never awaken any of his quirks nor can he have a plus Ultra moment of pushing past limits to draw out a quirks full strength, at least until his final fight when Shigaraki's hatred infected him, and that ultimately backfired on him when he lost control of them. I feel like 4/10 is harsh. You did put combining abilities as sonething to do and that's literally his whole thing. And outside of his battle with Stain he never does the "pull a power out of my ass to counter somebody" move, and that one was foreshadowed by All For One being aware of Stain escaping alongside him but refusing to join his forces, so be prepared a backup plan.
@Cyberlele02
@Cyberlele02 22 дня назад
Yeah I feel like this guy didn't understand afo at all or purposesly omitted these things
@hartlepoolmono8178
@hartlepoolmono8178 29 дней назад
In a story like JoJo pucci was severely underutilized for his powers. We really only see him give people powers despite some broken abilities, and then he moves onto C moon and stuff, so you forget he even steals power. Id love to see in part 9 or something a user who appears mid series, steals some of the already known characters powers and uses them in some super creative way like chrollo.
@aperture27
@aperture27 Месяц назад
curse spirit manip is more balanced than it seems. the prerequisite for manipulating a curse is defeating it so it would be difficult to get curses stronger than you especially ones with op techniques. also, if you want to use the curse technique yourself you need to use it in a maximum Uzumaki after that it's gone forever.
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 Месяц назад
You say that like, at any point, Kenny couldn’t have summoned a million cursed spirits: some possessing their own innate domains
@commandercorl1544
@commandercorl1544 Месяц назад
oh my god... he's not dead...
@ratman7923
@ratman7923 Месяц назад
Kenny was foreshadowed as stealing other CTs. He took over yujis mom and geto to gain there cts its dumb to ignore that foreshadowing.
@TheMonotonePuppet
@TheMonotonePuppet 23 дня назад
What should have been done was a flashback to when Kenjaku got beaten for the first time by a user of the 6 Eyes and Limitless. He would have put a massive plot into finding and hijacking a body with spatial techniques capable of counteracting other spatial techniques. While it ultimately fails because of some wild aspect of 6 Eyes being hax, it succeeds against the spatial technique of Yuki. That would be how to do it properly.
@PolishSadboy
@PolishSadboy Месяц назад
All for one know that every ability have drawbacks but only one quirk why he dint take clone quirk its concern me the most of this series
@deeemceetooisbaesgaem7211
@deeemceetooisbaesgaem7211 Месяц назад
this guy ran me over with a ford truck
@davidkuykendall3778
@davidkuykendall3778 28 дней назад
I think you should have mentioned Keven 11 from ben 10 cause his story kinda goes into how these powerstealers are when they hold on to these powers for a long,long time and other things they can absorb,rocks,trees,electricity,and DNA.
@snekramen6094
@snekramen6094 Месяц назад
What's great about Chrollo's ability is that the number of simultaneous abilities he can use is restricted. He can't just throw the entire arsenal at his opponents, he has to be selective about which powers he uses and when.
@arcaneblizzard6898
@arcaneblizzard6898 Месяц назад
If we wanna super extra. Technically, we saw kenny use anti-grav during shibuya right after gojo was sealed.
@WaituSnaiku
@WaituSnaiku Месяц назад
Wasnt that just prison realm struggling to Seal Gojo? Or did Kenjaku reveal he was just faking it so that the disaster curses would go off and fight?
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji 28 дней назад
@@WaituSnaiku I think that's the case
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 Месяц назад
Weak if you only have powers strong if other people have powers.
@yohumanfrisk
@yohumanfrisk 24 дня назад
While I mostly agree on the point with Pucci and F.F., I will say that it makes sense in the confines of the story. We know that Pucci is a tactically sound individual, who can make and follow elaborate plans, as well as think quickly and fix things when they deviate from said plan. The thing is, *he* is the one who gave F.F. sentience in that manner, and also knows how their powers work. He's the one who made them the way they are. Pucci's not stupid, either; bro knows there's a chance of the allies he created potentially turning on him. I think it would be entirely logical, and even expected, that Pucci would have had a countermeasure in place already to deal with F.F. in the event of them betraying and turning against him. While it is a bit sudden, it at least makes sense, given the relationship between the 2 characters.
@_vnfr
@_vnfr Месяц назад
kenjakus seeming ability to use the curse technique of his previous body or bodies is actually a different trick SEPARATE from the inherent properties of his body swapping curse technique which SHOULD only give grant him his innate curse technique and whose ever bodys is he is using this was elaborated upon(but not explicitly stated) in supplemental materials
@robxholicfoxyfan8552
@robxholicfoxyfan8552 29 дней назад
All For One doesn't like putting in effort to learn complicated abilities and learns soon enough as well that stealing quirks from newer generations has a bigger toll on his body, hence why Shiggy was given AFO. It's so Shiggy can access newer quirks as the world evolves with stronger and stronger quirks. And why for All For One himself only combines simple quirks so they do more without as much effort in training them. That's why as well, someone who trains the quirks well like Deku can do more with less quirks but the same power stockpile.
@AccidentallyBuiltAShelf
@AccidentallyBuiltAShelf Месяц назад
for kenjaku, basically his explanation after tanking the black hole was of yuji's mom's cursed technique which he stole when he took her body. Yes they hadn't shown it before, but the whole point of sending in choso first was to force kenjaku to use more than just his cursed spirit manipulation because they knew he had more than one technique, which they thought was gravity because that's what choso forced him to use and that's what his domain was. Where they went wrong was assuming Yuji's mom's technique was gravity, what he was actually using was the cursed technique reversal being gravity. The innate technique was anti-gravity which obv is a counter to an attack that works purely on gravity. Basically they're plan was perfect but they didn't count on him using cursed technique reversal because gojo is pretty much the only person to do that.
@felpshehe
@felpshehe Месяц назад
I like AFO, he's a villain and that's it. Very simple. Very effective. Demon lord is a good description that even he uses for himself. Also, there are actually a lot of limitations to his quirk, he deliberately avoids complex quirks like the plague, same thing for heteromorphic quirks, his body can't handle the change and his mind can't handle the complexity. Can can make quirk combos but the complexity of it is still a limit, only simple stuff. Also, he almost never thinks of something on the spot, gotta be planned ahead. That's why we only see him using a few specific quirks, the ones he's most familiar with. He barely switches to unseen quirks
@felpshehe
@felpshehe Месяц назад
But yeah, chrolo does it much better
@dekiru4979
@dekiru4979 20 дней назад
Actually no, All For One has no problem stealing mutant or complex powers, but he doesn't like stealing complex powers because these types of powers require a lot of training and AFO prefers simple but effective powers. About mutant powers, in the bnha spin-off, it is seen that some of All For One's subordinates received mutant powers from him, demonstrating that AFO can actually steal mutant powers without suffering negative effects (this was before he got his injury).
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
If we don't know most of their powerset, these types are frustrating to watch
@Thebirdy123
@Thebirdy123 Месяц назад
I think a character that actually executes this best is a specific character from undead unluck won't mention him since spoilers
@SpectralDynamite
@SpectralDynamite 29 дней назад
As someone stays up to date on UU... yes, he's VERY well written, but the thing is that he *copies* abilities. He doesn't steal them. I feel like you'd take a slightly different approach when dealing with a copycat than you would with outright theft. It's not quite the same.
@Thebirdy123
@Thebirdy123 29 дней назад
@@SpectralDynamite that is a fair point I forgot the distinction :p
@janjakubiak7441
@janjakubiak7441 Месяц назад
Holy shit, the like button flashed at 2:02
@foxcloak
@foxcloak Месяц назад
you should do a sister video to this about the hero version of this trope, the sometimes temporary sometimes not power steal. Where the hero will usually have a core set of abilities tied to their power steal (eg. Rogue from x-men stealing captain marvels flight and super strength, or Yuta having Rika) and then also a power steal that tends to just be temporary (Rogue with all other power steals, or Monoma from MHA)
@redsprites5216
@redsprites5216 Месяц назад
Talk about how a lot of the new Shonen powerhouses have composite powers. It seems like everyone has more than 5 abilities lately.
@supremegodemperorderpfestor
@supremegodemperorderpfestor Месяц назад
A work of foction that does power stealing really well in my opinion is Lord of Mysteries, it is a chinese webnovel that will soon get an animated adaptation. In it there are 22 Pathways each divided into 10 Sequences from 9 to 0, each giving unique abilities. Among these Pathways there quite a few that allow one to steal or copy the abilities of others. The protagonist's Pathway, at Sequence 5 Marionnetist, gains the capability to turn others into Marionnetes, which keep all of their abilities and are compeltely in his control. While very op i theory this is countered by the fact that it is very hard to find Beyonders at or close enougth to his level to be useful in battles and even harder to turn them into Marionettes instead of jsut killing them through other methods, as the transformation is very slow even on those below him, and it alos leaven himself very vulnerable. Not only that but his limit as a Sequence 5 is very low. It does increse to 50 at Sequence 4 and then keeps multiplying by 10 but it also gets harder and harder to get Marionnets that can be useful at his level outside of revival and projectongg his abilities through them. The Pathway of the main antagonist has stealing as its main ability, and eventually become capable of stealing abilities, but it is based on luck and the difference of Sequences. Its also temporary. Thay are also capable of stealing a whole lot of other things such as bodies, distances, time, fate, lifespan, etc. There is another Pathway that can Record abilities they see but the higher the lvel of the ability compared to them the lower the success rate and the weaker it becomes compared to the real deal. In compensation these Pathways I have mentioned have very little direct combat capabilities for most of the time and the fes they do get requeire extreme preparation and inteligence. There is also another Pathway that at Sequence 5 Sheperd gains the capability to Graze the souls of those thay kill. They however habe a limit on the amount of souls, can only use one at a time and can choose only 3 abilites to take with the soul. Eventually at Sequence 2 they can divide themselves into 3 clines that can each use 3 souls at the same time if I remember correctly and they also can use their own abilites on top of the Grazed souls. Then there is another Pathway that can analyse the abilites of other and simulate them, but we dont get a lit of information on this Pathway. And technically speaking anyone can use the abilites of another Pathway thorugh Sealed Artifacts created when an object absorbs a Beyonder Characteristic insted of a living being, although those have severely weakened abilities when compared to the real Sequence and so have severe negative effects. Some examples are a wooden puppet that slowly turn those around them into Marionettes, but they van be snaped out of it with physical co tact and the puppet can only do this to one persona time, to a quill that can make anything written with it come to be as if it where a story, so long as it is a "resonable development" but it will also try to kill the user through its story as well. Those sealed artifacts are made from Sequence 5 Marionnetist and Sequence 1 Author respectively.
@justadel2
@justadel2 28 дней назад
Pucci is literally a Deus Ex Machima in canon
@African-AmericanGoose
@African-AmericanGoose 23 дня назад
This little bird makes good content.
@allengrove1864
@allengrove1864 29 дней назад
So this video went in a very different direction than I thougjt specifically when talking about Kenjaku. When it comes to Kenjaku and power stealing I thought we would be talking about his body swapping technique not cursed spirit manipulation. If you wanted to talk about cursed spirit manipulation, you should talk about Geto. And better yet when talking about this kind of ability why not Yuta? You're not afraid of spoilers and i would add quite a bit to the conversation (also yes jjk has 3 people who use others powers)
@allengrove1864
@allengrove1864 29 дней назад
Millions of cursed spirits but most of them are SUPER low lvl millions of grade 3 and 4 a couple hundred grade 2 and 1 and a handful of special grade
@visionaryvjae5641
@visionaryvjae5641 26 дней назад
I honestly feel like it's unfair to say Kenjaku's anti-gravity was too busted when that same anti-gravity was shown in the story before Yuki's powers. Yuki creates a black hole with a powerset the audience has seen for as long as Kenjaku's gravity powers. Why's only Kenjaku catchjng the heat?
@whitefox3189
@whitefox3189 Месяц назад
Personally I prefer Pucchi the most. I see most special abilities as basically the same as a persons limbs, so when Pucchi takes away a stand and memories, the person becoming a vegetable just makes sense. Also Chrollo doesn't really steal, more like permanently borrows, since if the owner dies, the ability will disappear.
@_vnfr
@_vnfr Месяц назад
kenjakus seeming ability to use the curse technique of his previous body or bodies is actually a different trick SEPARATE from the inherent properties of his body swapping curse technique which SHOULD only give grant him his innate curse technique and whose ever bodys is he is using this was explained in supplemental materials
@ultima1594
@ultima1594 Месяц назад
Another reason Chrollo is a good power stealer is because abilities are not the be all end all of Nen combat. Even if Zeno had his dragon stolen, his first attack cut Chrollo with just his hand. Also Meruem is living proof that you don’t need a Nen ability to be a threat.
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 Месяц назад
Honestly overall the power system of HxH is just well developed in every sense of the word
@ian7064
@ian7064 Месяц назад
AFO also dropped the ball on O'clock. He should've never given that on away
@zirotsero6951
@zirotsero6951 Месяц назад
Saying Kenjaku is a power stealer for controlling curses is like saying Makima is a power stealer for controlling a hybrid army, or Kabuto is a power stealer through edo tensei
@beywheelzhater8930
@beywheelzhater8930 Месяц назад
The thing is Kenny explicitly steals those curses. He seals them and gains their abilities for himself. They aren’t allies nor do they have independence from him. Hell, using Maximum Uzumaki he just straight up expended Mahito’s existence for a one time use of idle transfiguration The point of calling him a power stealer is what that leads to. A character with a large, unknown quantities of powers gained from other characters. Also, technically he is a power stealer regardless. He stole CSM along with the body it was attached to
@Blueskies1047
@Blueskies1047 Месяц назад
AFO has some interesting quirks (pun not intended) that could've been elaborated on further or otherwise just better written. He has to make contact with the person's body to steal it (I feel like it should be directly skin contact, it genuinely might be and I just wasn't paying attention though), and he cannot steal the person's skill with a quirk meaning he's actually kinda picky about which abilities he takes (preferring raw power over skill-based ones). As far as him using the same abilities over and over I feel like it might be just personal preference for him. TL;DR: AFO has a lot going for him but the writing could've been a lot better
@esbait6432
@esbait6432 28 дней назад
The kenjaku's thing would make more sense if Yuji would have the gravity technique, although gaygay would need to still show that kenjaku can use the techniques of their past bodies, but, if the protagonist doesn't have any innate curse technique, why would one of his parents have one?
@nugget6820
@nugget6820 23 дня назад
Kenjaku doesn't have MILLIONS, a bunch were spawned or came out of hiding from the negativity of all his other curses causing death and fear
@weeaboobaguette3943
@weeaboobaguette3943 Месяц назад
BIRB
@the_clash444
@the_clash444 Месяц назад
Kenjaku used his gravity attack on the prison realm in shibuya it wasn't gojo he was just stalling
@technoimperialist9509
@technoimperialist9509 Месяц назад
Are you the brother of blue jay
@coraline2770
@coraline2770 29 дней назад
I want to get some looks at Unfair from undead unluck
@kbreviews7785
@kbreviews7785 Месяц назад
Hxh has a plethora of mutli nen ability weilding characters, especially in the ants arc. And most of them just add to the strength of an already powerful character, it doesnt often become a gimmick. I think HXH uses the trope the best.
@jjcandelabra6164
@jjcandelabra6164 22 дня назад
idk why this goofy clowning AfO, he's the best if not 2nd best of the Power Stealers on the list . Its idiodic to out of context to lay a criticism of why AfO doesn't own every quirk in existence, when we know his reasoning already, he only wants simple quirks, doesn't care for Complex ones. And he can't target ppl like Eraserhead because All Might works at the UA school, directly protecting the Teachers n Kids, all while AfO is on Life Support from nearly dying to All Might before the series even started, this level of stupidity makes me think this guy is lying about his bias n skimmed the whole series to lack this basic info.
@da_001
@da_001 16 дней назад
well he is a bird, what ya expect
@privatecage1445
@privatecage1445 27 дней назад
kenjaku does not have millions cursed spirits because it would physically impossible to catch and eat millions of ball of cursed energy in short amount of time ...the million of cursed spirit was result of shibyua incident ...and only special grade cursed spirit have cursed techniques...not low grade which only thier are 16 registered .special grade ....and kenjaku have the gravity technique which was technique reversal like gojo 's red .. which was forshadawed only to introduced to counter yuki black hole later by revealing that it was the reversal not the techanique ..real cursed technique was anti gravity ...its like gojo was using red the whole time but in the last uses blue ..as surprised ...
@DawsonDDestroyer
@DawsonDDestroyer Месяц назад
AFO is so stupid because there's several quirks that are essentially a one shot ability (decay, Overhaul, his ability to steal quirks, etc...) all he needs is a quirk to extend his fingers/arms/hands (preferably make them malleable to) and a portal ability and he can essentially one shot anyone. Especially when paired with multiple durability enhancing quirks and any speed enhancing quirks. Plus some other quirks that allow self duplication would stack incredibly well with that making it almost impossible to lose. Also focusing on improving a handful of quirks and adding other supplementary ones rather than just spamming quantity. His quirk choices for fighting All Might are actual garbage too, I could make several quirk combinations of 5-10 (Excluding AFO) quirks that would absolutely destroy All Might especially if given any time to train them. All Physical Build: Muscle Augmentation + Hardening (Kirishima's) + Impact Recoil + Twin Impact + Overclock + Any Extra IF these 5 aren't enough. Muscle Aug, Hardening, And Impact Recoil would defensively put him not super far off of All Might In Durability. Plus Twin Impact And Overclock would arguably put his attack strength above All Might for at least a short Duration. And Overclock should put his speed on par or well beyond All Might's. Essential the battle strategy would be Augmentation, Hardening And Overclock Right Away Hit All Might As Many times as possible using twin impact with each strike until Overclock needs to cool down. If you just slug it out with All Might Impact Recoil will hit All Might and then Twin Impact can be used in conjunction essentially making every punch All Might gets off on AFO 3 Punches to himself (give or take), on top of the overclocked punches which could be faster and Harder (with Twin Impact) than All Might's Punches. Let's be generous to All Might and say it's only 3 All Might Punches worth Per All Might Punch making it so that All Might would essentially have to be 6x more durable (minimum) to not be taken down first (only using 5 Quirks). If you add other Quirks like the 4 Kinetic booster quirks and the several durability enhancing quirks he already has (plus he already has some of the ones I listed), then he could easily defeat All Might, especially because of how they would stack. Fire Power Build: Blue Flame/Cremation (And/Or Hell Flame) + Frost (Could Get 3 copies, And/Or Ice Ply) + Steel (And/Or Hardening) + Whirlwind (And/Or Air Cannon) + Wave Motion. It would only take a combination of Dabi's quirk and any other one to easily defeat Endeavor, Using the main 5 I selected he would Have Dabi's Fire (stronger than Endeavors), enhanced by Whirlwind, with Wave Motion added increasing overall energy output plus in conjunction it could allow for finer control and greater concentration of whirlwind even further amplifying Dabi's Fire. Steel plus Frost would easily counter the overheating/self damaging issues plus allowing for him to build defensive barriers and take some damage. If AFO really wanted he could easily steal Cremation from Dabi, steal ice ply from his lackie, he already has Air Cannon, and then he would just have to kidnap a few UA kids and the Whirlwind guy steal their quirks send them back, go to Endeavors home and steal 3(I believe) copies of frost (he could also potentially steal half hot half cold for added control and power), then entice/trick Endeavor to come fight him 1 on 1, beat him, steal hell Flame, and then he would have 9-10 different quirks that stack to give him more than enough fire power to casually destroy All Might. You could also add the Stock Quirk and have AFO channel his attacks into his mouth (maybe add a quirk to add mouths or sum) and then release the stock bubble thing at All Might in which it gets released in a much shorter time period (increasing the AP of the attack) and multiplying the power of the attack on top of it. Wouldn't be surprised if this combo (with the 11~ quirks) just one shotted All Might. Could also make a build based entirely on hax (Permeation + Overhaul Or Decay + Flight + Etc...) but I'm lazy and don't want to write more.
@PolishSadboy
@PolishSadboy Месяц назад
Imagine afo doing sad man parade cloning himself 100times
@DawsonDDestroyer
@DawsonDDestroyer Месяц назад
@@PolishSadboy Exactly and he probably wouldn't have the same issues twice has with freaking out about who the Original is.
@PolishSadboy
@PolishSadboy Месяц назад
@@DawsonDDestroyer sadly we dont have all for one vs one for all batle like a movie where we could answer a lot of questions (he still is badly writen he want to be demon lord xD) . One problam more i have is why all for one don't travel across the world to taking quirks in world where every hero showing his quirk is like menu in restaurant
@MatiasIglesiasIglesias
@MatiasIglesiasIglesias Месяц назад
The countering of the black hole was not bs, what are you on?
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
The BS part was how we just learned that Kenjaku keeps abilities from former bodies, and this one just happened to counter Yuki's final attack
@littlebitydragon6008
@littlebitydragon6008 Месяц назад
​​​@@commonviewer2488 No the point of sending blood dude was to find out if he had any other techniques and they did. Also the techniques didn't neg her techniques just her ultimate not BS.
@glogangglory
@glogangglory Месяц назад
⁠@@commonviewer2488where did u assume he got the gravity from at the beginning then? And if the gravity wasnt the reversal, then the anti gravity would be the reversal, making it essentially the same. Also he still has his body hopping so it seems rather consistent for him to keep previous techniques.
@grim6129
@grim6129 Месяц назад
@@commonviewer2488 but there's a limit as to how many CTs they stole from different corpses being taken over. Kenjaku does not have large CE reserves to make an external drive (like what Yuta did in making Rika) to not make their true body (the brain) fried from overloading. Also there are more intricacies about Kenjaku's CT that Yuta (with the Copy CT) had a hard time to find out how it truly works.
@Maximus-tv7wb
@Maximus-tv7wb Месяц назад
Another thing afo can do he can mix quirks in his collection hence the giant arm against all might (not saying it changes the ranking I haven't watched JoJo's or hxh I can't comment on it)
@heythere1358
@heythere1358 Месяц назад
How can you put Kenjaku from JJK as a power stealer when Yuta’s CT is literally COPY? 💀
@shumanbeans
@shumanbeans Месяц назад
because its a video about power STEALERS
@user-ks3bp8eh2z
@user-ks3bp8eh2z Месяц назад
All for One didn't try taking erasure again because he sadly has no eyes anymore to use it lol 😢
@DJmouchi777
@DJmouchi777 Месяц назад
Even if he couldn't use it, taking it off the table would be a huge boon to him since it hard counters him. "So I don't have to potentially deal with it later" is a good enough reason to try again in my opinion.
@ASageCalledQ
@ASageCalledQ 28 дней назад
@@DJmouchi777 You have to lay that at the feet of the author.
@DavidHernandez-pd7oj
@DavidHernandez-pd7oj 28 дней назад
U picked kenjaku instead of yuta ? 😗
@Javetts
@Javetts Месяц назад
Personally, I feel that power stealing characters are a bit of a cop-out. Instead of making a cool ability, you're just repackaging others. This is why HxH gets away with it. Most of the abilities we see that are taken never appear before or after. Often these types of characters either use abilities we see elsewhere or (and this one is just as annoying) they employ a set of abilities that are one-note or specialized to the point of absurdity, but are massively powerful when they are a single tool among many tools. In other words, a power that was made to have been stolen or to win one fight.
@FortunateNonhlanhla-r6r
@FortunateNonhlanhla-r6r Месяц назад
Ywach tho where is he Aushwelen..
@crowskivonchronos
@crowskivonchronos Месяц назад
Very nice.
@amateurexpert3451
@amateurexpert3451 Месяц назад
*Farts cutely*
@unimunoz1159
@unimunoz1159 Месяц назад
Meine lieblingsling Power system is in Hunter X Hunter. Kurapika hat EIN SEHR cool Ability gemacht. Aber ICH denke das Gon konnt win gut protagonist nicht.
@vicunaleather6992
@vicunaleather6992 21 день назад
This power trope i think is done the best in hxh. Its not all powerful as other with other series. Kurapika,leol,chrollo, Benjamin all use different and unique ways. Afo is the worst when you compare and he has no competence
@youtubestudiosucks978
@youtubestudiosucks978 21 день назад
Cant somebody just use copy and take his quirk before the time runs-out? That way AllforOnes quirk dissapears in the abyss of eternally lost quirks
@vicunaleather6992
@vicunaleather6992 21 день назад
@@youtubestudiosucks978 I have no idea
@youtubestudiosucks978
@youtubestudiosucks978 21 день назад
@@vicunaleather6992 yeah, but why not? The hardest part would be sneakingup to him because he operates under a might makes right mentality and has so many overpowered quirks but if you sould sneak-up to him when he's sleeping or drank too much or something, wouldnt the usage of his own quirk on him take away his quirk and all the quirks he stole with them?
@shadowgamesxy2843
@shadowgamesxy2843 Месяц назад
I'll say and persist saying, AFO is a moron who probably had ton of quirks that could easily defeat his opponents such as All Might but he either tries to defeat him at his punching game or just play with him waiting his rewiding body time. He could steal harder to master Quirks who are powerful and cover the necessity to master them with Intelligence enhancing Quirks and memory Quirks to remember everything. Shigaraki also completely wasted AFO(the quirk).
@xios9749
@xios9749 Месяц назад
Yuta ….
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Месяц назад
How do you beat someone with a list of abilities longer than Yhwach? Whack him before the fight even starts.
@grim6129
@grim6129 Месяц назад
Yuta's CT does not steal CT like making the owner won't use it anymore. Kenjaku's CT, and Sukuna being a cursed object (due to mimicking how Kenjaku's CT works) and synthesizing CT extensions like using the Piercing Blood pose when using Max Elephat's water and using Gojo's hand sign on his limited-time Malevolent Shrine are examples of power stealer in JJK.
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