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Let's look at the design of this power supply, then go over the schematic together. Click the SHOW MORE tab below for links.
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@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
To learn electronics in a very different and effective way, and gain access to Mr Carlson's personal designs and inventions, visit the Mr Carlson's Lab Patreon page here: www.patreon.com/MrCarlsonsLab
@KetherWesak
@KetherWesak 2 года назад
When are we gonna do the restoration? Dear Paul
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
@@KetherWesak It's in que, lot's of other restorations ahead of this one.
@KetherWesak
@KetherWesak 2 года назад
@@MrCarlsonsLab please do a 3 hours restoration with lots of details hehehe cheers
@banjomobile
@banjomobile 2 года назад
Sometimes you need to speak a little slower. Your an excellent teacher with wonderful knowledge. More of it will be absorbed by the student if you maybe use fewer words at a slightly slower pace with less redundancy. I love your classes - keep it up.
@bfx8185
@bfx8185 2 года назад
You didn't got the point of that configuration. Using center tap for 6V is because of the current. In that configuration output windings of that transformer are in parallel and therefore voltage is half and current is doubled. And it's a poor design because those diodes should survive 4x bigger current.
@rp5029
@rp5029 2 года назад
I have two of those exact same model power supplies.(without the fancy capacitor mods) Scored them from a neighbor who was an old school tv repair man. Sadly, his health was declining so he was finding a new home for a lot of his gear. Said he built them as kits. They both work beautifully. Never blown a fuse or tripped the breaker in either one. Brute force is an accurate description. Thanks for uploading this video Mr Carlson.
@donl1846
@donl1846 2 года назад
Nothing like a cup-of-joe and an electronic lecture from Professor Carlson. Thank you !
@SN-1006
@SN-1006 2 года назад
Actually, there is: Having a nice cup of coffee AND a fat joint. Cheers^^.
@unlokia
@unlokia 2 года назад
Why does everyone drink poor Joe and fire at Will? 😜
@n2n8sda
@n2n8sda 2 года назад
Feeling old when I read other comments saying they have never seen an unregulated linear power supply before. I don't recall you mentioning it in your video either but a lot of earlier solid state electronics can have issues with noise from a modern HF switching power supply so these types of power supply are also useful when working on older solid state things too.
@Stevie_D
@Stevie_D 2 года назад
I passed on one of these supplies (which was going for small money) in the last year and after seeing this and your latest series of old equipment I am starting to realize it's ok to buy pieces for playing at a time well in the future - this would be an excellent "in-between/quicky" project for who knows when in the future. Brute force INDEED!
@laser31415
@laser31415 2 года назад
A few years ago I learned a phrase that describes this power supply nicely. "Too stupid to quit technology " :)
@Rivenworld
@Rivenworld 2 года назад
Terrific, 30 years late but I am now learning what I couldn't learn 30 years ago, love this, thank you.
@pmchamlee
@pmchamlee 2 года назад
You remind be of my electronics professor, Richard Emanuel, at Howard County College circa 1967. Very clear descriptions which flow with the designs of circuits. Much obliged to you for your efforts!
@Xhopp3r
@Xhopp3r 2 года назад
If I were to compare my knowledge about electricity, and electrical components with Mr. Carlson's knowledge, I could say with confidence I know nothing. I enjoy and appreciate Mr. Carlson's knowledge and his videos. Although, I just recently discovered this channel, I subscribed.
@waynethompson8416
@waynethompson8416 2 года назад
Paul is VERY intelligent, creative, inspirational, helpful, and wise. None of us are perfect...but Paul comes "dang near it"!
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 2 года назад
@@waynethompson8416 , It is again interesting to hear what people think... and I must agree with the basic bell curve of intelligence which shows that the low end is WELL represented! LOL
@edwatts9890
@edwatts9890 2 года назад
Seriously, Mr. Carlson, thank you for all of your effort and your knowledge and easy-going presentation. Lots of us really like your channel. 73, KI6DCB
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
Glad you're enjoying the content Ed! Thanks for your kind feedback.
@watthairston1483
@watthairston1483 Месяц назад
I had one of these, as I recall it was an Eico kit. Used it to fix 12v radios too. Thanks for the memories....
@RocRizzo
@RocRizzo 2 года назад
Good old Eico. Made in my old neighborhood in Brooklyn, NY. Used to dumpster dive there for schematics on weekends.Can’t believe that was almost 60 years ago.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 2 года назад
Rocco Rizzo , Believe! LOL
@jeffreyhaynes5774
@jeffreyhaynes5774 2 года назад
Ah,the good old days in Flatbush.Gone are the good times.just like old repair shops like Stereo Warehouse.
@anullhandle
@anullhandle 2 года назад
:) for me it was a short bicycle ride to Edmund scientific back when they had a surplus outlet to paw thru.
@dennisfahey2379
@dennisfahey2379 2 года назад
I think Mr Calrson missed his calling. With that smooth jazz voice he should be a planetarium commentator.
@TooMuchMiddle
@TooMuchMiddle 2 года назад
Great Tech Talk, as usual. I always love seeing the old equipment you have to show us! I would really enjoy seeing you work your restoration magic on this power supply.
@genestatler2514
@genestatler2514 2 года назад
I love these explanatory videos Paul. Always interesting. I'm anxious to see the restore video.
@nathkrupa3463
@nathkrupa3463 2 года назад
Mr Carlson's Sir Very Well Explained, So Nice Video And Thank You.
@denisdespins1127
@denisdespins1127 2 года назад
VERY relaxing Mr C. I totally enjoyed it. You have a good voice in a therapeutic kind of way ! Press on ! (The "brute force" type is a favorite)
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@faxcapper
@faxcapper 2 года назад
Oh my.....really looking forward to you rework of this supply, Paul.
@hapskie
@hapskie 2 года назад
Would be cool to see what the output looks like on a scope, using 12v and 6v mode. With and without smoothing capacitors.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 2 года назад
and both ac and dc signatures. i bet its got a lot of ripple thus the caps trying to run something digital off it
@rp5029
@rp5029 2 года назад
@@richardcranium5839 If that was a guess, it was a very good one. I've scoped the output of mine and a lot of AC ripple is present ever with small loads.
@gyrgrls
@gyrgrls 2 года назад
@@rp5029 This underlines my reason for wanting a regulated supply. A series linear regulator greatly reduces the ripple on the output. For this cause, I do not like unregulated supplies, especially low voltage supplies.
@anandarochisha
@anandarochisha 2 года назад
Less than 10% of everything Mr. Carlson has forgotten about electronics is directly and personally represented in that little number of folks with "dislikes" of this video.
@brucesargeant6589
@brucesargeant6589 2 года назад
Ha, great video. I used these back in the '70's to fix hi-fi and car stereos. I learned all my practical engineering on that bench. These supplies were the best. I still play engineer:). Hats off to Mr Carlson...wish I had a voice like him:). Keep up the good work.
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 2 года назад
Thanks for the explanation of the uses of these old power supplies!
@johnhelt5475
@johnhelt5475 2 года назад
Eager to see this restored.
@mushenji
@mushenji 2 года назад
This is absolutely awesome
@hestheMaster
@hestheMaster 2 года назад
I can't wait to see the restoration and how to replace it with the correct electrolytic capacitors. Thanks for a great lecture on how it works Mr. Carlson!
@TeslaTales59
@TeslaTales59 2 года назад
I vote for a restore. Nice Eico. I have an old Lambda LQD-422 in need of a bit of cleanup. Great show as always!
@gasser1ify
@gasser1ify 2 года назад
mr. Carlson as far as I'm concerned you're the best there is out here on RU-vid Nobody holds a candle to you
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
Thank you for your kind words!
@scotty3114
@scotty3114 2 года назад
This reminded me of a 6/12 volt battery charger my dad had. It was lacking the caps volt meter and choke. I had a similar circuit with the voltage selection. It had 2 large selenium rectifiers riveted to the side. I was just self learning electronics at the time and was amazed at the simplicity of the device. It was indestructible (thankfully) as I clandestinely used it in many projects and experiments.
@jp040759
@jp040759 2 года назад
WOW. If this electronics gig doesn't work for you, you sure could make a living reading children's books to kids with your soothing voice.
@compwiz101
@compwiz101 2 года назад
The Eico 1064 was my first variable power supply, bought it off my middle school tech lab for $20. Still use it to this day
@jond1536
@jond1536 2 года назад
I like the use of "reactor" for the choke, makes is sound modern and "mysterious" , funny Thanks for the GREAT Video
@paulrawlings2898
@paulrawlings2898 2 года назад
Actually reactor is an older term for a coil or inductor. Here are some older names that were used in the past and are not common now. Condenser = capacitor (note: condenser is still used to describe a refrigeration component), aerial = antenna, earth (British term) = ground (note: common is sometimes used also, but it may or may not be referenced to earth/ground). Cycles per Second (CPS) = Hertz, micro micro Farads (uuF) = picoFarad (pF, 10^-12), Amperes (the commonly used newer shorted term is Amps ) Ether = old word that was used to describe what we would call the ionosphere today. I'm sure there are others that I have forgotten. Mr. Carlson is a young guy who enjoys keeping electronics history alive... Thanks
@Seiskid
@Seiskid 2 года назад
I thought this was pointless. But your explanation sold me. Good bit of kit.
@madscientist5969
@madscientist5969 2 года назад
I'm sure a regulator circuit could be installed! Bring it back to life and make it work better~ That's my mantra!
@156dave
@156dave 2 года назад
Mr Carlson I wish I was allowed to have a workshop like yours All my test gear is in a shed at the bottom of the garden.Your family must be very supportive
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays 2 года назад
Mr.C. I'd really like to watch you restore this power supply. Thanks for another super video. It is genuinely appreciated.
@rossthompson1635
@rossthompson1635 2 года назад
Loved the explanation of the full bridge / full wave rectification at 12V or 6V. What a neat circuit. At first I didn't see how the voltage was varied on the 12V range, but saw it as soon as you ran through it again. Thank you!
@paul1887
@paul1887 2 года назад
The thermal breaker is awesome! No more trying to find the right fuse. The Pi filter was cool too.
@JohnGreen-SWL
@JohnGreen-SWL 2 года назад
Most interesting I have not seen a " brute force psu " before. Always something new to learn on your videos
@kahlid-ataya
@kahlid-ataya 2 года назад
your video is the appetizer with my lunch 😋
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 2 года назад
I much prefer the videos where you actually restore an old radio or item of test equipment such as the old multimeters (ME-26 for example) or signal generators or oscilloscopes, etc. that I worked on in the US Army back in the Seventies. Brings back a lot of memories of component-level troubleshooting. The videos where you only show what's wrong with the item don't float my boat.
@rayswick4707
@rayswick4707 2 года назад
I enjoyed this share and feel a little less ignorant about this brute force supply. Thank you.
@markd.nightingale4266
@markd.nightingale4266 2 года назад
Beautiful job of explaining the circuit and function of the components. Keep up the good work!
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics 2 года назад
Hi, nice to see you back :) I also have an old brute force typw power supply with a variac that goes up to +/-40VDC at 200W or something like that. Good for building transistor power amps. I don't use it because I mostly dabble with vacuum tube electronics, but it's there in case I need it.
@josephmagedanz4070
@josephmagedanz4070 2 года назад
What a wonderful design...simple is often better. Looking forward this restoration!
@crud118
@crud118 2 года назад
I love simple informative videos like this.
@Jaco1
@Jaco1 2 года назад
Great video. The 6V/12V switching is quite interesting.
@JohnRaschedian
@JohnRaschedian 2 года назад
Thank you Paul.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
You're very welcome!
@T2D.SteveArcs
@T2D.SteveArcs 2 года назад
Interesting topology thanks for sharing Paul ....
@bsodmike
@bsodmike 2 года назад
Sad diodes become jumpers!! Thanks for the tip on the Neon needing a current limiting resistor.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
Glad to help!
@billpowell5931
@billpowell5931 2 года назад
Great explanation. And a neat project. I look forward to the restoration.
@philip2.2.12
@philip2.2.12 2 года назад
Love watching your vids
@gd2329j
@gd2329j 2 года назад
Love the moving iron meters get them dancing & pick a number ! Heathkit made similar battery eliminators .
@Dougrca
@Dougrca 2 года назад
Clear and concise thank you Professor
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
You are welcome!
@mrshankj5101
@mrshankj5101 2 года назад
This was very fascinating!
@billchavez8473
@billchavez8473 2 года назад
Excellent as always.
@brucedeville9053
@brucedeville9053 2 года назад
Love your circuit analysis. I have that exact supply, bullet proof.
@greengrayradio1394
@greengrayradio1394 2 года назад
A simple, yet interesting design with the transformer having multi-tapped secondary. Most often these used a large reostat to set current, this has more of "voltage control" with the operator in the control loop, as you describe very well as usual! The meters seem to have little or no damping, but with a little operator patience, still fine!
@old64goat
@old64goat 2 года назад
As someone said, it would be interesting to see how much ripple there is under load. I never tested the ripple on mine, back in the tube car radio days ripple did not matter because the radio was filtered well. I also replaced the binding posts to red & black and added a better pilot light.
@jamesharrison2041
@jamesharrison2041 2 года назад
i thought i saw you at the thanksgiving parade in n.y.c,,,drinking coffee,,,,,, only stag beer for me,,,,73,s kd5utu
@gregholloway2656
@gregholloway2656 2 года назад
Neat video, Paul. My 80 year old father has a battery charger, built in the 60s that works like this. The transformer is center-tapped, and the 6V/12V switch changes the diode configuration. I’m curious what that circuit breaker (in your PS) is rated for, since it has to deal with both 10A mode and 20A mode.
@davelowets
@davelowets 2 года назад
20 amps. It can run all day at 10 amps.
@victordubowski1276
@victordubowski1276 2 года назад
I have a similar battery 🔋 charger from the 70s, it two was my father's, I believe it is a Schumacher, I still use it today to charge batteries.
@MegaBakerdude
@MegaBakerdude 2 года назад
Beefy old school design. Thanks for the tour! I last used a PI filter in the power supply for the coil of a 15" woofer from way back - perhaps the 1930's.
@Davidjb37721
@Davidjb37721 2 года назад
Thanks for your time today
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
My pleasure
@chrisa2735-h3z
@chrisa2735-h3z 2 года назад
To be honest I sometimes fall asleep watching your videos because you have such a nice voice! (Not to mention I love vintage electronics And learning how they work)
@davidcottee2808
@davidcottee2808 2 года назад
Very cool how the schematic has the two diodes carrying the high current in 6V mode slightly larger than the other two. My first 12V power supply I built in the 70's had 4 diodes like those, I think they were rated at 25A or so. Industrial strength! Great explanation of the operation of the device.
@rádiosantigos1958
@rádiosantigos1958 2 года назад
Nice and short demonstration. Very informative that part on the rectifiers. Thanks.
@MrJohnnaz
@MrJohnnaz 2 года назад
I built one of these brute force power supplies, with a 8 amp variac and a 40 amp RV converter (transformer). I use it to power my aluminum anodizing rig. It's really a nice setup.
@markmckinley5989
@markmckinley5989 2 года назад
Feeling really old. That power supply was standard issue when I started as a tech.
@phuckodclown4389
@phuckodclown4389 2 года назад
Mr. Carlson, I just watched a Veritasium video yesterday about electricity and you might find it interesting or at least have an opinion on the question he posed in the beginning. Thanks for the video.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
I left a comment there, but too many stupid replies, so I deleted it. He needs to look into "The law of squares," and do some research into "Time Domain Reflectometry."
@phuckodclown4389
@phuckodclown4389 2 года назад
@@MrCarlsonsLab Thank your for your reply. Too bad you had to delete your comment. I wish he had reached out to you for your input on the topic because you are *thee* master when it comes to electronics. Looking forward to your next video and the restoration of this power supply when you get the chance.
@anullhandle
@anullhandle 2 года назад
@@MrCarlsonsLab alpha phoenix channel just got a scope after seeing that video. I mentioned w2aew but you could definitely add some wisdom there :) Sorry your comments drew the troll element.
@timsweet4424
@timsweet4424 2 года назад
I just happen to have the exact same unit , minus the strange cap setup . I use this box for all kinds of tests go/nogo , amp draw , motor brush setting , and other diagnostic uses . There is a spring metal wiper that controls the voltage . From outside , you have a gem ! The discoloration should not be an issue unless it has been mistreated .
@unlokia
@unlokia 2 года назад
“ 👁 “ eye like your mug. ☕️ - very eye-peeling.
@genewilson2705
@genewilson2705 10 месяцев назад
I purchased this unit as a kit about 50 years ago, The filter cap gave up a couple years ago. they are still available. I use it to power auto radio's.
@PhG1961
@PhG1961 2 года назад
Indeed I liked the video. A remarkable design very well explained !
@Jergling
@Jergling 2 года назад
I have one of these! It came with my apartment in a mysterious basement room full of 70s ham hardware. I exploded a calculator with it because I didn't understand that unregulated supplies even existed.
@danbecker9391
@danbecker9391 9 месяцев назад
In 1972 I paid about $40 for a new EICO power supply (looks exactly like the one shown in this video). I used it for a wide variety of applications: it works nicely as a battery charger. It has never required maintenance. However, after watching this video it makes me question the condition of the filter cap. Maybe it's time to replace it (haa).
@techguy9023
@techguy9023 2 года назад
Used one just like that for years at my old job. Wish I still had it.
@SupremeRepairs
@SupremeRepairs 2 года назад
Great job sir ❤️
@romandavydov8684
@romandavydov8684 2 года назад
great power supply ! want to have something like this!
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 2 года назад
Paul, I totally trust any restoration work that involves black electrical tape. I would not even check it out! It's good.
@waynethompson8416
@waynethompson8416 2 года назад
Does that include "Liquid Electrical Tape?"
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 2 года назад
@@waynethompson8416 No, I actually have used that stuff. It is pretty useful sometimes and seems permanent. I don't think the hacks would even know about it.
@shalffon
@shalffon 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much i learned a lot with your explanation!
@MCW1955
@MCW1955 2 года назад
Great “all seeing eye” cup!
@edwatts9890
@edwatts9890 2 года назад
You might have said, "In the six-volt position, the switch causes the transformer's wipers to change the circuit from a full-wave bridge to a full-wave, center-tapped arrangement."
@Potatonater-it7gw
@Potatonater-it7gw 2 года назад
I literally use this exact supply every day for projects lol
@davelowets
@davelowets 2 года назад
The slew rate spec on these power supplies were basically about as fast as your eyes could read the meters, relay the info to your brain, and then send the signal back to your fingers to adjust the knobs.
@mikek5206
@mikek5206 2 года назад
How does the wiper make contact with the copper if the transformer winding is insulated or varnished? Would you mind exploring this on your restoration video?
@frederikmestdagh9421
@frederikmestdagh9421 2 года назад
enjoyed the project ..
@konstantinosk1269
@konstantinosk1269 2 года назад
Finally another great video
@Popashistory
@Popashistory 2 года назад
Thanks once again for your talks. I remember building one of these a very long time ago. I was wondering why you don't add a bleeder resistor to the DC outputs on your projects. A simple way to protect the user and some of the more delicate equipment I fix. Of course, a 12 V supply isn't too big a danger to the user except for the welding heat when you short it out LOL
@dwaynezilla
@dwaynezilla 2 года назад
I can almost taste that coffee, haha. Looks good.
@MrWasim100100
@MrWasim100100 2 года назад
*wow! classic transformer supply without solid state regulators!*
@Taras-Nabad
@Taras-Nabad 2 года назад
Great video
@johnmueller6456
@johnmueller6456 2 года назад
I too have this model power supply ... comes in handy when my truck battery needed some help ...
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk 2 года назад
Reminds me of WW1 aircraft, where’s the carburetor? You’re the carb.
@dimmog
@dimmog 2 года назад
Mr. Carlson, you definitely have a great microphone. Awesome audio quality. Thank you.
@scose
@scose 2 года назад
Yes and the a/d converter seem flawless, the room is small and filled with objects, the neighborhood is rural. It's hard to find such noise-free audio on RU-vid
@clivemurray3433
@clivemurray3433 2 года назад
love it.
@goodun2974
@goodun2974 2 года назад
The Eico variac on my bench at work is almost identical to this variable power supply, having the same case and layout, and a voltmeter but no ammeter. Slightly modified, with an incandescent lamp mounted to the top of it, for a switchable current limiter.
@chrisosborn1693
@chrisosborn1693 3 месяца назад
Another excellent presentation. I suspect that the smoothing choke is considerably higher than 5 milliHenries.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 3 месяца назад
Lower Voltage, higher Current equals lower in the Henry's range.
@chrisosborn1693
@chrisosborn1693 3 месяца назад
@@MrCarlsonsLab Many thanks: I'm learning a great deal from your videos. Keep up the great work.
@urugulu1656
@urugulu1656 2 года назад
took me a moment to grasp that rectifier trick but yes it is sorta neat. Also: Caps that have multiple caps in one package like these I've never seen before... cool stuff
@rad2304
@rad2304 10 месяцев назад
Reminds me of my old bicycle with no brakes. You’re the brakes!
@erikdenhouter
@erikdenhouter 2 года назад
The easiest way to remember a full wave bridge rectifier is: ALL diodes point to the positive. Also neat from that schematic is that by that one switch the 12 V is made out of the series of the windings, and for the 6V they are used sort of parallel using the middle contact of the transformer.
@gwesco
@gwesco 2 года назад
That breaker was a common automotive part in the late 60's - 70's. My old Jaguar e-types had them as well as weird British rated fuses.
@mc3lizard
@mc3lizard 2 года назад
The label on the back, "BATTERY ELIMINATOR" is more appropriate than "power supply". To me, "power supply" implies regulation and/or current limiting is internal.
@MrCarlsonsLab
@MrCarlsonsLab 2 года назад
Regulation and current limiting in a power supply are like ordering a trim package on a car. It's still a car without the trim package.
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