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I agree on it not being cheaper if you plan to use it a lot, but as a entry point into PCPs, I do think it's a great package right out of the box, and that is something we haven't seen for this price in the PCP world yet.

Where do you source the cylinders ?

@@BoggWeasel We will be selling them. I would also anticipate them being available through some store chains as well, just not sure where yet.

The Nitroair cartridge in the UMAREX USA is out of stock. Amazon doesn’t carry it.

I'm not sure $5.00 air tanks would help me. Much rather a double co2 version, especially with a regulator!

THIS! Ultimately, it depends on how much you plan to shoot. But I think you've captured my perspective on this quite well.

It will also prevent you from entering the PCP world. Once you have a handpump / Compressor or airtank, you are good to go for any PCP (okay maybe not with just a handpump). But I already got a compressor for just over 200 euro and I'm now looking for a nice PCP with a good power to price balance to start with. (Really love the Notos, but its a whopping 410 euro / dollars in the Netherlands, waiting for the Iconix at about 215 as an alternative). But I would like to ramp up to a Gauntlet or Hatsan Hercules Bully somewhere in the future.

@@crowtjenr1 "Prevent" you from entering the pcp world! So if I purchased this rifle. Iam put on a registry and not allowed to ever purchase a pcp in the future. WOW............

@@heithwatkins Not exactly what I said, and far from what I meant. If you buy this N2 gun, your out 200 dollars and stuck with rather expensive N2 cartridges. Money you could have invested in a cheap PCP and pump to really get into the PCP world. I see the Komplete as an intermediate between CO2 and PCP, but not really the introduction to PCP as you will still be stuck in the same big step to get your frst PCP and pump. In my option, the combination of needing both is a big investment to start using PCP's. Once you have a means to pump a PCP, you are good to go.

@@crowtjenr1 You did use the exact word "Prevent"

I doubt it will hurt anything. If or how much it helps will depend on adoption. If it brings in new airgunners, then it's a win. But it will take time to see that play out.

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I would agree. Though, haven't seen the Iconix yet, so I'll hold my judgement on that gun until I get one in hand.

That's another good use case for it for sure! I am fairly certain the folks at Umarex have a decent number of ideas for this tech already, but the arrow launcher side makes perfect sense to me. Good call!

Appreciate your thoughts here. We are working on additional use cases as you might imagine. What we will say is that not everyone has $200 for a rifle, $$ for a scope, and $300 for compressor that's a pain to use (keep cool) without using credit to secure it all. Let's make the PCP experience more attainable and convenient and then more people will transition from here to join you, us and others in shooting more sophisticated PCPs with a passion!

@@UmarexAir $300 for a compressor (only purchased once) or $175 for 7 pairs of nitrogen to fire 500 pellets? Mmm... sorry, I'm going for the compressor. But even better: the Umarex Origin pcp with manual pump included.

Yeah, but if someone is looking for the convenience of CO2 with the power of PCP, this is the ticket! But no way I'm paying that much for cylinders.

Nice! The more I think about it, the better comparison might be to CO2 guns. While this has many of the hallmark features and performance of a PCP, the cartridge aspect is the same as CO2. In that comparison, I think the benefits are clear. The cost per shot or cost per fill is quite high still, but if you have a need for the extra power and don't want to deal with fill equipment, it's really the only option that bridges that gap at the moment.

donpeer4477 thank you for sharing. Great point.

Hey Diana Stormrider and a $50 PCP pump is still cheaper than buying this piece of crap

Certainly! Couldn't agree more.

That's fair. My opinion, I don't see this as the next biggest thing...but is it a "thing"...absolutely. And I see a place for it, the question is, does the general airgun consumer. And that, we will all find out together.

Answer to a question nobody was asking lmao that's perfect

@@pyramydair I definitely hope it gains traction, because if it does, the next evolution will be refillable cylinders. And that, combined with this form factor, I think could really take off. I'd probably have to have one then.

@@edwardmyirski7964 I don't think there's anything stopping Umarex (or anyone else for that matter) from doing that for this gun sooner than later. In fact, if they could do it and offer it as an additional accessory for the gun for $50 or so, I think they'd make the gun a lot more versatile and appealing to exisitng PCP owners.

@@edwardmyirski7964refillable cylinders… so back to just a regular PCP gun😂😂 or co2…

Assuming there's no leak in the system itself (same with any PCP), indefinitely. Over the course of this review, I intentionally left one of the cartridges on the gun after shooting two mags for about 3 days. When I picked the gun back up, I got about 15 more shots before I started to watch my point of impact drop at 45 yards. So it held just fine.

I'm with you on pain of paying for cartridges. I bought Umarex Origin, then a scuba tank on Craigslist for $60, after the tank was low it needed recertification and internal examination ($90). Now refills are $10 at the nearby dive shop. I'm in heaven...

Good question 👍

@@theshootindutchman if it’s easy and someone already has tanks around, could be a nice cheap little regulated gun

umarex is working on it.

Totally fair, but if that gas ram ever leaks (which does happen) you're out of the game until you get a new ram in there. Just sayin.

If you’re happy with your gun then thats awesome

@@pyramydair And it will in my experience with gas rams!

We agree.

These are brand new, so you're not going to find them everywhere just yet. It's about $11.50 per cartridge (you buy in packs of two). But I get what you're saying. Either way, if you do the cost analysis based on how much you want to shoot, and decide to bite the bullet and buy a traditional PCP and fill source OR if you decide to go this route with the Komplete, I'm happy to get a newbie into the PCP fold.

think about those beverage tanks , now add an hpa refill conversion and now ya got 3600psi . is that mnot correct? refillable by hpa compresser or hand hpa pump easily. i think but waiting on pyramidair to confirm before i go buying anything. the last word @airgunz_militia you tube

I agree. It makes sense in some instances, definitely not in others. Largely dependent on how much you shoot. Though, that might make for a nice opportunity for Umarex to release a stand alone refillable cylinder to convert this gun to a traditional PCP later on.

@@pyramydair If they don't, Someone else most likely will find a way to adapt it lol.

Good thoughts.

That's a fair perspective. Be interesting to see if this could be employed in smaller projectiles for pistols as well

@@pyramydair 100% my thoughts, all the semi auto and full auto guns coming out would really benefit from ditching CO2.

Respect. Depends on one's definition of PCP. Even a "popular" pellet rifle maker recently used "HPA" to describe their break barrel. 🙄

@@UmarexAir 😆

Hear you and thank you.

I agree. If it can be done affordably, I think this becomes a good option for existing PCP owners as well.

@@pyramydair of if someone just installed a fill nipple on the gun itself , no need for more carts.

I wouldn't use this as a "self defense weapon" but as a small game or pest hunt this has my full attention.

Thanks for watching!

@pyramydair lol i start with a laugh this morning. I have to so I can retain my sanity. Many years in this hobby of ours and sport. It never fails that the skeptics and "experts" come out in force to beat down anything new or innovative. I like the idea of the gun for convenience around the house when i dont feel like grabbing one of my expensive heavy ass pcp's. Like many i can not use a firearm because, yes, i was a idiot and a time in my life and broke mans law. So, im limited to what I can use to hunt with. Pyramid and Tyler thanks and Umarex for bringing choices to the table. David

@@psycho6275 Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment and kind words. There's definitely a market for this gun, just a question of how big it is.

It's meant for a low-commitment entry to PCPs for someone who is on the fence but doesn't want to spend the money. It's not meant for someone who either has a compressor or pump or is ready to purchase one.

@@pyramydair Or someone who just needs to eliminate nuisance pests from their backyard or garden now and again and doesn't want to invest a lot into the more sophisticated air rifles and accessories. I think it could be considered a "niche" item, which is not a bad thing as an entry-level air rifle. No hate meant.

@@pyramydair Ya I got that from the video and I will stand behind my original comment. So lets do a little math Umarex Notos cost $269.99 air venturi hand pump $129.99 which comes out to $399.98 the umarex komplete cost $192.99 plus $22.99 per 2 pack of cartridges. which is $216.89 and you will get about roughly 80 shots before you need 2 more catridges So lets add 8 more 2 packs of cartridges which comes out to $400.81. So lets say you like to shoot 2 times a week which is at a cost of $45.98 per week for the cost of the cartridges. Well in 3 to 4 weeks you have just spent enough to buy your hand pump for the umarex Notos. and have also spent just as much as if you had just bought the Umarex Notos with a hand pump in the first place. because after 3 to 4 weeks you are now spending more and more money for the air you need to shoot this gun but if you hand just done what I said you would happily be shooting and just spending money on pellets not air and pellets. So Ya I will stand by my first comment 100%. But I get it your in the business of promoting and selling this products and others like it and not necessarily in the business of giving the best advice to the new guy trying to get into the PCP world. Because your job is to promote and sell these new and existing products. But that is my 2 cents for what it is worth to anyone that gets to see this post before it mysteriously disappears.

up 45 regulated shots before the pressure falls below the regulated pressure of 1800 psi.

Yes. You can leave it on the gun if you don’t shoot the cartridge all the way down.

@@tylerpatner6591 do you know what the thread is on the cylinder? Also the working and max pressure? I have an extra carbon fiber bottle that I would love to throw on this as a gun for the kids and cabin. Definitely wouldn't be worried if it's left in the rain or gets dropped.

@@SifuTimBerkemeier I did not measure the ones we had sadly. Reg pressure is 1800 psi and the max fill would be 3600 psi (that's what the cartridges are pre-filled with.

@@pyramydair I'm sure if it's not the standard thread I imagine someone will make an adapter with a fill port

@@tylerpatner6591that makes it more useful for next to the door, for quick pest control at 2am when something decides to eat your cat food. Hell, for just $200, it’s worth for collecting to some. Appreciate

These can only ship by ground

$22.99 for 2 pack

For sure! I am just glad there is an option for PCP power and accuracy without the hassle of a pump or compressor.

if it s a nitrogen filled canister, filling it up with just normal air , would yield subpar performance/ shot numbers.

Now - that's probably true!!

Seems like you make bad decisions if you think this thing was a good idea.

This is my general thought process as well. It should be a great way to get folks into it, show them the potential of PCPs and make the decision to get a fill source and a bigger/better gun way easier. Would make a good camping gun too if you didn't want to hault a tank or compressor around.

We have a limited number that should be here within a few days.

$22.95 for a 2-pack of nitro cartridges for only about 50 shots per cartridge is EXPENSIVE! You're better off getting a real pcp to save money over time!

@stephene.barbin8036 ive got many pcp's. Top end guns to budget guns. I like the novelty of it. I like it for a change of pace and convenience. I wouldn't use it alot but it would be there ready to go

$22 for two carts

11.9 grain .22s were used for Umarex's stated lead velo and energy rating.

I don't disagree with you, at least for most folks. FWIW, especially with the caliber change kits, most are backordered heavily so when we do get them in, they go right out the door, so they rarely show up as in-stock online. But more are on the way as we speak.

An adapter may very well come, not sure who or what yet, but I am sure someones working on it as we speak. If it can be done for $50-$70 all in to convert it to a true PCP, I think then it makes some sense for existing pcp owners. But time will tell.

ALL brands will have to stop doing that (velos with lighter pellets) when marketing to people who shop brick and mortar stores. Thanks for recognizing that.

Well there ya go! Beats the heck out of hand pumping (at least for me)

I absolutely agree

Save your damn money and get the compressor don't be foolish and buy this thing. You would end up spending more on the Nitro tanks then a compressor in the long run. Ever hear the phrase "A fool and his money will soon part", don't be the fool. Use common sense.

Yea it'd cost you over $111 to shoot through 500 pellet tin of 22 cal , 11 canisters 45 shots each. By the time you shoot 1500 pellets or 3 tins you could have afforded a cheap Chinese air compressor for right at 300.

The lack of temp sensitivity is definitely a worthwhile point. Makes this an interesting gun for those that want a "prepper" tool that is ready to go when they need it without hauling pumps, tanks or compressors around. And the pistol part is interesting as well. In general, it will be interesting to see where and how this is used in the future. No doubt about that

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I’ve not tried it myself yet but I don’t think a standard 13ci regulated bottle will fit. Even if it did, you’d need a different output on that reg. But I can definitely see it coming as an add on accessory down the road to make this more appealing for existing PCP owners.

@@tylerpatner6591 Is the N2 cartridge connection-to-rifle of a proprietary design? Are the N2 cartridges currently "unobtanium"?

@@glenncoody I want to say it has to do with the way the cartridge is pierced which may be a part of the adapter that's attached to the gun that the cartridge screws into. Don't quote me on that. And yes, we don't have the cartridges on hand right now, but I'd anticipate them being readily available in the near future.

It does not. You can store these with pressure in them without a problem

You're not wrong. But I suspect some will see it as a way to get into it without initially sinking in a bunch of money.

And keep pumping, right? If you have time on your hands- by all means. For convenience of it - I am leaning towards a yes. Would like to see some user reviews, though

All the more reason for those interested to buy a standard PCP and fill equipment then, right?

Those nitrogen cartridges are 12.50 a piece for 40rds. That's more than a box of 9mm.

@TacticalJackalope that is not the point - like the video says - cheaper way of getting into PCP instead of having to get a compressor

The real question is how much is those nitrogen cartridges?

Nitrogen cartridges expensive

@@WHOTEEWHO In the long run. A compressor will be cheaper to fill the pcp air gun.

You're not wrong. But a good choice to get someone into it

Knowing that there are hundreds of thousands 88g c02 rifles out there and NitroAir beats them by a long shot in all categories… swing and a home run for people looking to try PCP

Gee, don't sugar coat it dude, lol 🤣

Fair enough. Thanks for watching

He said NO in the video

@@kaybee2810 i see, cause the umarex 9 minute video said they are the same threads as an 88 g co2 cylinder. hmmm cause if it can be converted i will buy, just for the higher pressure cylinders. but if not, the thing is trash. things like will it fit, well a dremel will make that compartment any shape i want. hmmm guess better to just get a beeman 2029 pcp in .22 haha and not worry about it, cause that one is shorter and will do 920fps in .22cal. and is about the same price.

No because in the video he literally said "No you can't use the CO2 on it because the N2 cannisters are MUCH HIGHER PRESSURE". @@AIRGUNZ_MILITIA

@@kaybee2810 smiles. so his reasoning was the pressure and not the threading for fit. wonderful, because i have no intention of using 88 g co2 cylinders at all. ubt since the threading is the same , the 4500psi refill adapter for those cylinders will work for these cylinders as well. and a dremel can make the needed refill hole in the compartment and any larger space for the use of the refill adapter, and using the nitrogen cylinders , untill empty and then refilling them with 3600psi of compressed air instead is possible. since the nitrogen cylinders are able to accept 3600psi . smiles that is what i was trying to figure out friend. not the actual use of co2 cylinders. but the use of a refill adapter of the same threading to refill nitrogen cylinders with co2 at a higher pressure than a person can refill co2 cylinders. which would make this an actual pcp airgun after the nitrogen is used up. smiles ya see this is why i get the big bucks... hey, shhhh where are the big bucks, cause i can't see them anywhere. hahaha

@@kaybee2810 an easy test, i will buy the nitrogen cylinders, and i already have the hpa refill adapter, all they need do is thread together and this will work. cost of test $23 and tax,. purchased while i buy something else on pyramidair for free shipping. thanks for the support of the advancement of your airgun community. i understand why you wanted to keep saying no, but being who i am (my handle is THE LAST WORD so i am not trying to offend with that, it is my name) i took the information you provided and sorted out the opinion from the facts. and your own words tell me that yes the threading is the same, and i wanted to use the higher pressure mitrogen cylinders all along because they use a higher pressure. so thank you very much for the assistance. thinking about trying the nitrogen cylinders ,refilled with co2 at 3600psi on the sig mcx vertus .22 cal as well since it has a 30 round semi auto magazine/belt.