Video timestamp links to save time! @1:38 - DC-coupled system diagram schematic @3:25 - Quattro Inverter/charger review @5:38 - Smartsolar MPPT charge controllers @6:54 - Cerbo GX and BMV explained @9:15 - Apps explained - VictronConnect and VRM app @11:55 - Remote monitoring in VRM @13:00 - Victron BMV configuration settings - programming the BMV for accurate battery SOC Check out the full Victron Energy review - www.cleanenergyreviews.info/blog/victron-energy-battery-inverter-solar-charge-controller-review
Instead of buying two charge controllers , wouldn't it make more sense to buy one big charge controller like the 250 / 100 ? it would be cheaper also ! can you comment please
In this case, there were 2 groups of panels mounted on different roof sections, so two charge controllers were required. If all the panels were mounted on one large roof then it would be better to use a 250/100
Just an observation, not criticism: Other rack mounted LiFePo4 solar batteries are networked and provide state of charge to the rest of the system. So these PowerPlus Energy ECO don't seem to have that feature.
You are correct. These are 'self-managed' battery modules which are very simple to setup and install. They also work as a direct replacement for lead-acid batteries. Other battery systems like those from BYD and LG chem are 'managed' batteries which require CANBUS communcation between the inverter and battery. In this system the battery SOC is determined by the main DC shunt (Victron BMV) hence why it is important to correctly configure the shunt settings (as is explained in detail at the end of the video).
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I am in the design phase to transform a Sprinter 211 cdi, new (2021), L1H1, all a little tight !!!!, but perfect for use here in Europe and exploring small towns, easy to park ... etc But now I got to the point of doing the electrical project, which I'm not used to doing, I'm a civil engineer, I understand 110 / 220v AC circuits. I wish you could help me with that part. I'm Brazilian, but I also live a lot here in Portugal, where I'm going to do the conversion. Well, I started making a spreadsheet, with the equipment, the necessary power and time of daily use, I have no intention of filling the motorhome with things, not least because it is a Sprinter L1H1, and I would like to have a simple electrical installation, but I would not like have gas inside, so I would prefer a stove with only one induction zone. To heat the water it would be a D6 truma, which is diesel. But from the calculations I made and compared with others I saw on the net, it seems that it ends up consuming a lot of energy, making the electrical part more expensive. I don't want to spend so much just because of induction. I don't know what other electrical equipment I would still need for everything to work, still using the car's alternator and an external 220v point when stopped at a camping site. In your opinion, which a good configuration sufficient to have a quick meal, with induction and stay out of the network for a day or two? Well, the result of the spreadsheet was: 220V equipment notebook - 65w - 1 hour of use - 5.4 Ah induction cooker - 1800w - 0,4 hour of use - 60 Ah 12V equipment USB - 50w - 1 hour of use - 4.2 Ah refrigerator - 45w - 8 hours of use - 30 Ah lights - 15w - 3 hours of use - 1.3 Ah water pump - 42 w - 0.5 hours of use - 1.8 Ah exhaust fan wc - 40 w - 1 hour of use - 3.3 Ah I will be very grateful if you can help me by presenting an wiring electrical diagram with the necessary equipment. I appreciate if you answer. my address is: joaolp55 @ gmail com Thanks
Hello, I have a quattro 8000VA inverter, I also have a 220 mains. I'm interested if you can set it when the 47v voltage reaches the 220 mains. Without charging from the mains. Thank you
The explanation is great, thank you very much for it. Could you please tell me the characteristics of the different current protections (battery fuse dc isolator, mppt charge controllers , pv array dc isolator for mppt 1 and 2)?
Thanks, the current protection is generally based on the cable size used. In this case, we installed 50mm2 battery cable so 160A HRC main fuses were used. The MPPT charge controllers were protected by 63A double pole DC (Noark) CB's. The PV array DC isolators were 20A
I'm looking for inverters that can be connected at 100 of 400W solar panels and also charge a 48V battery bank (near 50 kW). Can you give me an idea of what type of inverter (and how many) for this type of PV please ? Thanks a lot for your video
@@MrDenisJoshua yes, of course, you will also need an inverter if you require 240V power. Many MPPT charge controllers operate with 12V, 24V battery banks. Make sure you get a 48V charge controller such as Victron.
Could you explain the reason for 160A fuse size? I've always determined fuse size by taking the wattage output of the inverter, divided by the discharge voltage of the battery, multiplied by 125%.
Good question, I'm surprised more people didn' pick that up. In this case the fuse size is selected to protect the battery supply cable which is only 50mm2. The reason for this is because the whole battery system was due to be upgraded with a much larger rack mount battery cabinet (with an inbuilt 250A main fuse) plus larger 70mm2 cables after the building was finished being constructed. The intital loads are very small at less than 5kVA so the 160A fuse was adequate.
The pricing of each component will vary depending on country. Victron has a pricelist available online. In Australia, this system will cost around AU$35,000 fully installed with a 6kW solar array using high-quality panels.
What do you mean by a DC generator? A DC wind or hydro generator can be used with this system. The Victron BMV (shunt) can measure the current generated from any DC-coupled source.
I believe it would depend on the DC generator. Some of them can charge the batteries directly; however, if this is not an option, Victron has a large selection of Orión DC converters able to take DC to DC from various sources and change the DC voltage. www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/10-QUATTRO-and-DC-genset.pdf www.victronenergy.com/dc-dc-converters
Great video.. are the batteries connected with the can port or does the BMV take care of the settings for charge and discharge??? I am looking to get the victron multiplus 2 to use with a 15kw lifepo4 battery pack which doesn’t have a can port so need to work out if the Multiplus 2 can set manual values for DOD charge etc???
Thanks. The Powerplus batteries used in this system are self-managed batteries so do not use or require a Canbus connection. For the system to determine battery DOD a Victron shunt (BMV) is required. See the section at the end of the video for more details
@@cleanenergyreviews, I really like this method of installation! Very clean and neat. What do you have behind the formply? Are the different cables etc still in trunking at the back?
A battery shunt with a temperature sensor might help disconnect the battery on extreme battery situations. There is, also, a voltage sensor that does the same if the voltage is out of range.
With lead-acid batteries, we typically use a C10 rating. However, with lithium batteries we use the nominal capacity as they are not generally affected by the discharge rate. (Note, if provided, use the C2 rating for lithium.)
The PV array is earthed directly to the main earth in the SB but you are correct that the MPPT should also be earthed. The installation actually wasn't fully completed at the time of the video and is due to be upgraded with additional earth fault protection device.
Hi Nice explanations. If I buy a Cerbo GX (Which has Bluetooth), can I then buy bluesolar MPPTs (not Bluetooth) and the bmv702 instead of the bmv712. Is there any reason you have smartsolar MPPTs and bmv712 when you connect them to the Cerbo anyway?
You still need a bluetooth adapter to setup and configure the Bluesolar MPPT's. The Cerbo GX only gets data coming from the MPPT's, it cannot program them.
Hello,where did you buy this fuses from battery to invertor..and how many i need? I have also quattro 8000 and 16 Batteries (48v 25äh pro piece) Thank you very much you are doing very nice job here.
Hi, in Australia they a available from several suppliers through ebay... www.ebay.com.au/itm/HRC-NH00-Fuse-Diconnect-Holder/174408076482?hash=item289b880cc2:g:WZsAAOSwCh5fRKr~&frcectupt=true
Hell,i m Back again with a question..i try to Connect the laptop with Interface mk3 USB to the quattro 8000 .. and it s doesn T work.. So i did this..port selection-com port-auto Detect..and the program said HELP ON COMMUNICATION...(i plugged electricity in the ac out ,the Batteries are also in(now are 47V)..and discconect everything..what i suppose to do more?? Many thanks.
Thanks. A single 'main' fuse/isolator is required for short circuit cable protection. (It's also a regulatory requirement). Each battery module has a 63A DC circuit breaker and BMS voltage and temperature protection as well.
We used 6 x 370W panels on the smaller 45A controller mounted with panels mounted on the shed, and 8 x 370W panels on the house with the larger 60A controller. Total 5.18kW
@@cleanenergyreviews How many are in series? The specs on the Victron said Max PV Voc is 150V. Your panels are likely less than 50voc so you should get max 3 in a string, correct? I'm looking for an inverter/charger that can handle 9 in series and is minimal 10KW. Any suggestions?
@@NSallakAnderson Yes Bluetooth only is an option. Also, Off-grid in this instance refers to a stand-alone power system with no grid connection. This installation is actually in a high density area but the owner did not want to be connected to the electricity grid for several reasons.
