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@johnhammonds5143
@johnhammonds5143 7 месяцев назад
Stand up, Miss Jean Louise. Your father's passin'.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Just amazing
@torontomame
@torontomame 4 месяца назад
I came here precisely to say how that line always leaves me choked up. 👏😢
@kendavis5853
@kendavis5853 4 месяца назад
I’m not ashamed to say it. I cry at that scene. Every time. We need more Harper lees.
@Peter-oh3hc
@Peter-oh3hc 4 месяца назад
I tear up just thinking about the line
@jamesacoffey9006
@jamesacoffey9006 3 месяца назад
There is no scene, no line in a movie that makes me bawl harder. Respect.
@victorsixtythree
@victorsixtythree 7 месяцев назад
11:53 - "Miss Jean Louise, stand up! Your father's passing..." Not only does that line always make me cry...I can even get myself chocked up just THINKING about that line. What a beautiful movie and novel. In the States, it's one of those books that is often read in school. Personally, I read it for school in sixth grade and I think again in 7th or 8th grade. In some ways it is such a simple idea - seeing the world through the eyes of children, but at the same time it is so powerful. And this is one of the not very common times when one of the all-time great novels was made into an equally great film.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
That moment IS definitely so very important. We were very pleased to have seen this movie. I'm glad that book is taught in schools over there. Now I also have to go and read it for sure ☺
@torontomame
@torontomame 4 месяца назад
It always has me wiping tears from me face as well.
@RenfrewPrume
@RenfrewPrume 6 месяцев назад
I love the discussions the two of you have, and bravo to Daniel for recognizing Robert Duvall. To answer your question, it’s not a specifically true story, but it is very much a typical story for the time and place. One of the great strengths of the book and movie is the authenticity of their descriptions of the time and place and way of life (especially concerning the children). I grew up in the early sixties, and we kids were rather similar to what you see---we would play in the woods all day sometimes, and no one was too concerned. Harper Lee’s book and “Huckleberry Finn” are the two greatest anti-racism books ever published in America, and they used to be required reading in many schools. Weirdly, in our crazy times, both are now very often banned simply due to their authentic language. I highly recommend another classic black-and-white movie, “12 Angry Men” (1957). Not only is it a legal drama that I expect Lucy will love, but also a masterpiece of writing, acting, and directing, with a cast of major stars and well-respected character actors.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 6 месяцев назад
This was a fantastic story absolutely, it really became one of our favourites! The language was part of that era I suppose, so its authentic, what's the point of ignoring that? 🤷🏻‍♂️ We will definitely check out 12 Angry Men in the future 😊
@jnagarya519
@jnagarya519 5 месяцев назад
"Dill" was the real-life Truman Capote. Harper Lee knew him when she was a child in that setting. _Adventures of Huckleberry Finn_ changed my life.
@mervincombs6640
@mervincombs6640 5 месяцев назад
they talk over nearly all of the dialogue during the film.
@andrewpetik2034
@andrewpetik2034 13 дней назад
'Miss Jean Louise stand up. Your father is passing.' That show of respect gets me every single time.
@davidpalmer7175
@davidpalmer7175 7 месяцев назад
This movie was released when I was 4 years old. I'm 66 now... this movie will be dear to my memory and to my heart until the day In die.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
It is very powerful, I'll definitely never forget it as well 👌
@Dej24601
@Dej24601 3 месяца назад
Another film from the same year 1962, is “The Miracle Worker.” It is based on a play and based on real people and real events. It is exquisitely photographed in black & white which really adds to the emotional impact of the story and has a beautiful soundtrack. It won 2 Oscars. Highly recommended.
@learobinson4450
@learobinson4450 28 дней назад
Everyone understands that Arthur “Boo” Radley was a Mockingingbird who was spared by the Finch family & Sheriff Tate but Tom Robinson was also a Mockingbird. He never harmed anyone. He worked hard, supported his family, helped his neighbors (Mayella Ewell) & was a credit to the community. Yet because of ingrained racism, he was not spared. He was shot & his death was a sin since an innocent man who didn’t hurt anyone was lost.
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 4 месяца назад
The line "your father is passing". is very powerful, as is the whole movie.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
One of our favourite moments for sure 👌🏻
@lizetteolsen3218
@lizetteolsen3218 7 месяцев назад
This movie captures a period of time in the deep south. He had no chance, given the culture. The black man feeling sorry for a white woman--nailed it for him. Gregory Peck--'Atticus' -- was a giant of an actor---this was a defining role for him. It was Duvall's 1st movie--he was 19.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, that's why we thought it was such a sad and frustrating situation, because what more could someone have done? The whole defense case would be impossible to fail if it was a fair trial 😔 (I had never seen Duvall that young, damn)
@EricAKATheBelgianGuy
@EricAKATheBelgianGuy 17 дней назад
Duvall was older than that, I thought. He would have been 31 if I have his date of birth right.
@finngirl1313
@finngirl1313 5 месяцев назад
Greg Peck and Brock Peters were lifelong friends after this movie. Brock delivered the eulogy at Greg's memorial service in June 2003.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 5 месяцев назад
Didn't knew that. They were both great in this movie!
@hannejeppesen1809
@hannejeppesen1809 4 месяца назад
I love Gregory Peck in this movie. Such a commanding presence.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
He was absolutely great in this, and I wasn't even that familiar with this actor
@kathleenmayhorne3183
@kathleenmayhorne3183 Месяц назад
He made a lot of thought provoking movies.
@SkyForgeVideos
@SkyForgeVideos 7 месяцев назад
My first time watching too. Great movie.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
excellent storytelling for sure 👌
@SkyForgeVideos
@SkyForgeVideos 7 месяцев назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid I much preferred it to 12 Angry Men. You guys should try "Inherit the Wind". I'm sure you've probably already seen it, but another great legal film for the channel. I must also recommend another old film called "Lost Horizon". It's my favorite black and white film, and appropriate to the title was almost completely lost and then reconstructed from a partial surviving copy. Another great film. Cheers! Love the channel, been watching since Naked Gun!
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot!! ☺️ Need to check out your suggestion
@izzonj
@izzonj 6 месяцев назад
The American Film Institute did a ranking of the greatest films in 10 categories and the greatest film heroes and villians. Atticus Finch was voted as the greatest hero in the history of American movies.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 5 месяцев назад
I like that! Înstead of brainless action heroes, this is a true role model 👌🏻
@StoryMing
@StoryMing 7 месяцев назад
Mayella was’t just “going for the emotion”; she was trapped and terrified. Between the threat of her father, who would presumably be likely to beat her again if the truth got out, and the social judgement for making a pass at a Black man- she was in a real, genuine bind. Also, I don’t think Tom Robinson was trying to commit suicide. I think he was genuinely attempting to escape- if he could. Yes, he knew he was likely to be shot, but as he saw it, he was going to be executed anyway, so he might as well take the chance, however small, that he might- just possibly- manage to get away. If you liked the movie, I recommend reading the book! (by Harper Lee)
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, probably she was just having a breakdown. She was definitely "trapped", that we can agree on. About Tom, you might be right, we really just thought he had done it out of desperation
@withastone
@withastone Месяц назад
​@@ptthatswhatshesaid Don't think Tom ran at all. It was a story that was made up to cover up some guards who killed him because they shared the views of the Lynch mob and feared his appeal could be successful.
@bigreenize
@bigreenize 2 месяца назад
Racism is the point of the entire book and film. America was on the cusp of the Civil Rights Movement when this film was released. Very powerful. Also, black and white films were an art form. Please don’t let the lack of color stop you from experiencing some of the best films ever made.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid Месяц назад
So far all the black and white movies we have seen for the channel have been top notch 😜
@melenatorr
@melenatorr 5 месяцев назад
This is a very lovely reaction, thank you. Harper Lee based this book on her own childhood memories. Atticus is based on her father (Dill is based on author/actor Truman Capote, who was indeed a childhood friend). When the producers were casting for the movie and decided on Gregory Peck, Lee was against it. Peck requested to come and visit the father, and Lee obliged. She waited outside while Peck and her father spoke in the house. When Peck came out, he had absorbed so much of what he felt from getting to know Mr. Lee that Harper Lee thought for a moment that it was her father coming outside, not Peck. After that, she definitely was in favor of Peck being Atticus. Mary Badham recalled how lovely it was working with Peck, and said that Peck remained friends with her after the shoot was finished. Gregory Peck has a reputation for playing upright, downright, rigidly good people, but he got more levels than that: I first saw him as the maniacal Captain Ahab in "Moby Dick"; and he has a wonderful time playing a scoundrel in the so-dreadful-it's-great "Duel in the Sun", which Orson Welles, I think, called "Lust in the Dust". Peck is also in one of my favorite Westerns, "The Big Country". Our radio station played the opening theme to that movie very often, and I knew it long before I had a chance to watch the movie itself: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QKdmOpXJHR4.html
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much 😊 Now I really want to check out more movies with Gregory Peck!
@melenatorr
@melenatorr 5 месяцев назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid I hope you can and will!
@custardflan
@custardflan 3 месяца назад
Gill character is based on Truman Capote, a childhood friend of Harper Lee the author. There has been a persistent rumor that Capote wrote this because Lee didn't write another novel. The movie Capote explores their relationship. A good legal movie that I like, because I'm a journalist, is Absence of Malice with Paul Newman and Sally Field about what constitutes libel.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Interesting 🤔 had never heard of that movie
@jana8599
@jana8599 2 месяца назад
My respect for editors went up when I saw the original novel.
@custardflan
@custardflan 2 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid pgolip Seymour Hoffman won an Oscar fort. It's about h7s reporti g and writing In Cold Blood.
@katheryns1219
@katheryns1219 Месяц назад
Atticus was based on Haper Lee's father. When filming the movie, she came to watch a scene of Gregory Peck walking down the street. Afterwards Mr Peck found her crying. He was very proud thinking he'd done a wonderful acting job. Then she said that he looked just like her father - including the little pot belly. That deflated him immediately, but he told the story laughing at himself many years later.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid Месяц назад
It was still a win for him in a sense 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 I just loved his performance in this 👌🏻
@randybass8842
@randybass8842 6 месяцев назад
In America, there's a history of police officers taking the law into their own hands. I've always considered it possible that after driving out of town, the police stopped and told Tom Robinson to run, and then shot him in the back as he did so. The script is written so we don't know the particulars of that event.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I guess we will never know. We just assumed that the escape attempt had been Tom's desperation. It's really sad either way 😥
@Akihito007
@Akihito007 3 месяца назад
Like law officers have never been corrupt in other countries.
@mainmac
@mainmac 3 месяца назад
I think this is clearly what happened.
@bookwoman53
@bookwoman53 3 месяца назад
In the novel, Atticus Finch says that every lawyer has a case which personally affects him. The Ewell vs. Robinson case was his. Doctors have cases and patients who affect them personally, especially when the patients die.
@wadehines9971
@wadehines9971 7 месяцев назад
It's an excellent book, with a very good adaption for a movie.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
I will also check out the book, absolutely
@johng482
@johng482 7 месяцев назад
2:41 the book makes it very clear that not only was the girl beaten by her father, he was sexually abusing her as well (explaining why her didn’t get the doctor). I think my 11th grade English teacher said it best that the jury was probably deliberating, vacillating back and forth between “we know he’s not guilty” and “we don’t want those people getting any ideas that they’re higher than their station.”
@Peter-oh3hc
@Peter-oh3hc 4 месяца назад
Someone pointed out to me that the hobbits in LOTR and harry in harry potter help us learn about their world by having things explained to them. I never realized that harper lee did the same thing. Just brilliant
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
Just excellent storytelling 👌🏻
@rogerstipe2446
@rogerstipe2446 16 дней назад
The story was written from the perspective of her being scout and the little neighbor boy in real life was Truman Capote
@tmerrick24
@tmerrick24 7 месяцев назад
Excellent movie. Great reaction, you got it... Please read the book, it's one of the great American novels. Harper Lee also wrote a sequel called Go Set A Watchman, which i think is great too.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
I think I definitely will read the book 👌
@308W82
@308W82 26 дней назад
Interesting to note -- this movie was made in the early 60's. I like how you mention that this film is just as relevant today! (Compare the prejudicial world of that time, to the world of today -- where the 45th President talks of Haitians stealing and eating pet dogs and cats. 1930s = 2020s. Same ignorance, same prejudice. Same need for people to put a spotlight on those prejudices! TOTALLY agree about the music score -- -- capturing the moods perfectly -- poignant and heartbreaking and beautiful.
@custardflan
@custardflan 3 месяца назад
Some poll named Greogory Peck as Atticus as the best father in film history.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
I get it :)
@robertshows5100
@robertshows5100 4 месяца назад
Most underated director in Hollywood.
@healdogtoe2c
@healdogtoe2c 4 месяца назад
Taken from a wonderful book that became part of a generations schooling.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Still need to read it, must be great
@procopiusaugustus6231
@procopiusaugustus6231 6 месяцев назад
I was a kid in the early ‘60s when the movie came out. I spent several summers in AL visiting my grandmother and remember segregation - mostly in the movie theaters where black people had to sit in the balcony. Seems very strange to me now that 23:22 this existed but is still within living memory.
@bankerlaura
@bankerlaura 3 месяца назад
The music score was beautiful.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Indeed
@cajunsushi
@cajunsushi 5 месяцев назад
Like many, I read the book in the early 70’s in High School. Definitely a classic that stands the test of time. Unfortunately there is still the dark shadows of racism in the USA. The struggle continues against ignorance, prejudice and hatred. You have a preference for court room drama, I’d recommend The Verdict and 12 Angry Men.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
I'll probably check out the book as well 👌🏻 Thank you for the suggestions
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 7 месяцев назад
Arthur,"boo", did not murder. It was in defence of the children. JUSTIFIED.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Of course! But I wouldn't trust a jury in that place! and it seems the sherrif learnt a bit with Tom's situation
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 7 месяцев назад
The sheriff acquiesced willingly to what they did to Tom. In the case of Arthur, Boo, there was no powerful social stigma attached.@@ptthatswhatshesaid
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 7 месяцев назад
Recommended courtroom films: 1. A FEW GOOD MEN with Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson 2. MY COUSIN VINNY with Joe Pesci and Marisa Tomei 3. RULES OF ENGAGEMENT with Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel Jackson
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for the recommendations! 1. We have both seen, but 2. and 3. we both have not seen 👌
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 7 месяцев назад
#2 is an Academy Award winning comedy. #3 is a drama.@@ptthatswhatshesaid
@JamesLachowsky
@JamesLachowsky 5 месяцев назад
I would add Anatomy of a Murder starring James Stewart.
@custardflan
@custardflan 3 месяца назад
The message is "the courts are the great levellers."
@tonytune4342
@tonytune4342 7 месяцев назад
There seems to be something that Atticus missed in defense of Tom . Ewell says he saw Tom when he looked in the window . Mayella said that when her father came inside he was shouting , who did this , who did this . Why would he be asking that , if he saw Tom from the window ?
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
yes! 🤦‍♂ There were just so many inconsistencies from the witnesses point of view
@agenttheater5
@agenttheater5 2 месяца назад
17:07 It's her underdress. Going home in that would be like walking home in your underwear. And she didn't take her costume off before because she was too scared. Plus it's a good thing she was wearing it, gave her some protection.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 2 месяца назад
True, she was a bit protected because of it for sure
@learobinson4450
@learobinson4450 28 дней назад
@ptthatswhatshesaid. It actually saved her life. Bob Ewell had a knife & tried to stab her. The costume prevented the knife from reaching her. It was left out of the movie because the scene of children being attacked & injured was already considered quite dark but making it clear a little 8 year old girl was nearly stabbed to death was going too far.
@agenttheater5
@agenttheater5 2 месяца назад
6:17 To feel sorry for someone - that means that you're their social equal. Maybe even their superior.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 2 месяца назад
Yes, I get that it emplies you are not their inferior let's say
@agenttheater5
@agenttheater5 2 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid that's why the prosecutor repeated what he said in a 'how dare you' kind of way
@barblessable
@barblessable Месяц назад
Reminds me of John Grisham's novels , he was a lawyer in the southern states before he became a best selling author, check out A TIME TO KILL film of his novel, this film is based on Harper Lee's novel.
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 7 месяцев назад
The Sheriff is culpable, as well. A modicum of investingation would have revealed to him the same exculpable physical evidence presented at trial. He too succumbed to social pressure and arrested a man that he knew was innocent. In doing so, he sentenced him to death.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, I kinda agree, especially because when we were watching the movie I found it kinda ridiculous that Tom handicap had never been brought up 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂ It's like, you guys waited for court to realize that it couldn't be him? He arrested him just because yeah, and he died because of that sure. The jury is also to blame, how could they come to that decision? I know it's the point of the movie, but it really pissed me off! 😅 sorry for the rant, I'm still thinking about the movie, it was really good, gonna read the book as well
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 7 месяцев назад
The only issue at that time, in that place, was that a white man, and woman, made an accusation against a black man. Are you gonna take a n_____'s word over mine!? N_____ Lover!!!@@ptthatswhatshesaid
@flerbus
@flerbus 9 дней назад
the district attorney decides what cases go to trial...not the sheriff the sheriff seems like a nice enough fellow, but hardly a shrewd criminal investigator everybody in the courtroom and the town (and american society at that time and place) were culpable in Tom's death
@TD-mg6cd
@TD-mg6cd 9 дней назад
@@flerbus I think the question hangs above us. Once the accusation was made, was Tom as good as dead? Yes, because he was black.
@flerbus
@flerbus 9 дней назад
@@TD-mg6cd agreed, unfortunately , we are not above such prejudice even today justice is not always blind and mob mentality still has a place in court decisions
@susanfromtoronto5168
@susanfromtoronto5168 Месяц назад
Laws banning inter-racial marriage and sexual relations (Miscegenation) existed not only at the time the movie was set (1930s) but were still in effect when the movie was made (1962). In the USA these laws were not overruled federally until 1967. Alabama, where the story takes place, did not remove its Miscegenation law until 2000.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid Месяц назад
What? That seems unthinkable 🤯
@jackmessick2869
@jackmessick2869 7 дней назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid It wasn't enforced by the 1980s, maybe even in the 1970s. But I would say most would be counseled against marrying another race because of cultural norms. By the 1980s some may have raised an eyebrow, being surprised.
@tackysum
@tackysum Месяц назад
English teachers in my high school taught the book every year during my 9 - 12 grade years back in the early seventies. Along with The Autobiography of Malcolm X, it was the book I saw kids carrying from class to class. I missed out on both and didn't read them until way after graduating. Glad I read To Kill A Mockingbird before seeing the movie, because the movie did not disappoint, it is a very faithful adaptation. Gregory Peck and the kids are wonderful. Sadly the racism and prejudice, especially in the Deep South, was and is very present. Back in the early thirties the racism is more casual such as not calling a black person by their name, just saying "Hey boy. Come and do this." As if the Civil War never happened and all the black folk were still enslaved and had to obey the white man without question. Nice reaction and discussion.
@kendavis5853
@kendavis5853 4 месяца назад
It doesn’t matter how many times I see the movie or read the book, I cry. I read this book when I was 12. It had such an impact on me. My family had moved from California to Ohio. Such a big culture change. I didn’t understand my classmates and they didn’t care for me. It was a small town environment. I have so much love and respect for Harper lee. Her writing was so beautiful. I could just go on and on. I wish that you could have reaction videos to reading a book. Reading aloud and reacting. The book is a beautiful work of art. And today it is being banned because it uses the n word. How stupid. How ignorant. The Ewells have taken over.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
I haven't read the book yet, but it must be really, really good if this movie is any indication of the quality of the story writing. Banning such a good book for such petty reasons is ridiculous
@torontomame
@torontomame 4 месяца назад
Same here. The book and movie always made me cry. And two nights ago I saw the stage production currently touring, with Richard Thomas (John Boy, from the Waltons) as Atticus, and Mary Badham (Scout from this movie, as the mean neighbour Mrs Dubose). It also made me cry. SUCH a excellent story.
@kendavis5853
@kendavis5853 4 месяца назад
Read the book. There is so much more in book.
@Dej24601
@Dej24601 3 месяца назад
You may enjoy “The Verdict” (1982) which has a little more time spent on developing the case and in the courtroom, altho again, the main story is about the personal lives of all the people involved.
@Dyrla67
@Dyrla67 3 месяца назад
Thank you for reacting to this wonderful film. I remember going into a book store about 25 years ago and picking up a copy of the book with no knowledge of what it was about. The story and characters totally entralled me and I think I finished the book within a couple of days! The film is fantastic but only really covers about a quarter of what is in the book, as the first half of the book is all about Scout and Jem's life in Maycomb....I feel a re-read is necessary :).
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Yeah, I feel I need to actually read the book!:
@cjmacq-vg8um
@cjmacq-vg8um 3 месяца назад
another excellent movie of social significance starring gregory peck is 1947's "gentleman's agreement." and i also recommend 1959's "diary of anne frank." and both are based on real events. thanks for the video.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Thank you very, very much
@michaelbrennick
@michaelbrennick 11 дней назад
I appreciate your comments at that end. Today, I'm afraid the film would be very preachy and didactic, and would overdramatise the story. At the time this was produced, greater value was placed on showing, through action and character, not hammering the message with a preachy approach, or portraying evil by caricatured characters.
@jefferyshute6641
@jefferyshute6641 4 месяца назад
If American judicial proceedins are of interest, I strongly suggest, "12 Angry Men." It stars Henry Fonda and a cast of very talented actors. What happens when the jury goes to discuss the trial and decide the fate of the defendant? Great film! 1955, I think.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
That is a great film indeed, and yes I will definitely show it to her
@ThistleAndSea
@ThistleAndSea 3 месяца назад
Nice one, D&L! Back in the day this book was required reading in school. A lot of food for thought in the story. Thank you for sharing it with us. If you liked Gregory Peck, he is also very good in Big Country and Roman Holiday. For more on the issues you might enjoy In The Heat Of The Night and also A Time To Kill, more courtroom scenes in that one for you, Lucy. 🙂
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
I've always heard of In the Heat of the Night but still need to see it!
@bartsmith3219
@bartsmith3219 3 месяца назад
I have always enjoyed the movie. Of course, when it came out, most viewers would have seen it at the theater. There were no digital devices to distract us, no way to click ahead to get to the parts which just focused on the trial. So I think it developed in some viewers a discipline to see how the story developed. You had to put up with seeing the children's dialogue. No fast forwarding.
@rosierose8477
@rosierose8477 5 месяцев назад
This film was the firts role in cinéma for Robert Duvall.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 5 месяцев назад
It's just that I am so used to see him as an older guy 😅 (except with The Godfather)
@actualkarenokboomer3158
@actualkarenokboomer3158 3 месяца назад
The actress playing Scout had no experience and neither of the children did many movies. The actor playing Dill came out as gay and died of AIDS in 1995.
@PequenaRainha
@PequenaRainha 3 месяца назад
Esse livro foi escrito pela Harper Lee. Ela era muito amiga de Truman Capote e Lee se baseou na amizade deles para criar os personagens Scout e Dill
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Pois, nunca vi o filme todo, mas acho que me lembro dessa escritora aparecer no filme "Capote"
@PequenaRainha
@PequenaRainha 3 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid Sim, ela é mencionada e representada em todas as biografias do Capote, eles eram amigos.
@katherinedinwiddie4526
@katherinedinwiddie4526 18 дней назад
Amazing movie amazing understanding of the movie. Time to grow for everyone. Another movie Pay it Forward is a learning movie. Or man without a face. Missippi burning is a fast paced movie that runs along these same lines just more modern-day. First time on your channel.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 дней назад
Thank you very much ☺️
@nataliestclair6176
@nataliestclair6176 4 месяца назад
If you have to seen it, a good movie to watch which is a good court room drama and good story is A Time to Kill
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
Yes, very good one! I think we both have seen that one though. But thank you so much for the suggestion 🙏
@filibertoarteaga9571
@filibertoarteaga9571 5 месяцев назад
Really like your reactions especially that you recognized Robert Duval. Also I would like to point out that slavery was not just in the U.s. it was in most of the world and just say Portugal was amount one of the first countries to buy slaves in Africa.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
He seemed so young! About slavery, I just wanted to say that I think that the fact that since in America it was racially based that might be one of the foundations for the fact that for so many time blacks were seen as lesser humans. Of course slavery has been the norm among people for thousands of years, and people from Portugal have been slaves and have had slaves just like any other group of people.
@filibertoarteaga9571
@filibertoarteaga9571 4 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid agree however slavery was not based on racism you should look up Tomas Sowell "The Truth of Slavery not Taught in school"
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
@@filibertoarteaga9571 thank you, will definitely check it out! Really thought that in the US all the slaves had to be black
@markb3186
@markb3186 7 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed this timeless American classic of importance historically =one of even more importance from 1960 is INHERIT THE WIND about the famous scopes trial in 1925 it is riveting in parts and PROFOUNDLY IMPORTANT TODAY many lines are taken from the actual transcripts of the trial make sure you look at the 1960 version with Spencer Tracy starring at his absolute best
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
amazing story yeah thank you for the recommendation 😉
@rayname908
@rayname908 6 месяцев назад
The genius of the book is showing injustice from the children's view. Harper Lee wrote about her father twice but only released To Kill A Mockingbird in her lifetime. It was considered a classic so she never released another book. Nothing would compare. Her childhood friend, Truman Capote, was the inspiration for the 7 year old, Dill. His classic true crime novel, In Cold Blood, was made into another classic movie about a murder trial.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 6 месяцев назад
I find it so interesting that Dill was based on Capote! And yeah, the children point of view is fantastic to just show how ridiculous the injustice of it all 👌
@hypnotistraywilliams
@hypnotistraywilliams 27 дней назад
Tom didn't really run, that's just the excuse the guards used when they shot him.
@nataliestclair6176
@nataliestclair6176 4 месяца назад
There does not have to be a "tie" as you put it. All it takes is one juror to say not guilty. Then two things can happen. The judge will have the jury go back and deliberate until there is a unanimous verdict, which can take days if the judge insists. Or of the jury cannot have a unanimous decision after more deliberation he can call for a miss trial. It is then up to the prosecution to decide of they want to try the case again. If they do then they go through the entire process once more including selecting a new jury
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
I see, it has to be a complete unanimous decision then, every time
@nataliestclair6176
@nataliestclair6176 4 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid yes. That's why in the US defense attorneys will comment or say things like, "All we have to do is convince one person of reasonable doubt" things like that
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
@@nataliestclair6176 interesting, thank you so much!
@locuus7
@locuus7 3 месяца назад
You need to check out Gregory Peck in The Boys from Brazil. That will blow your mind.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
That's an interesting title 🤔 tbh I do seem to recognized him from some movies, but cannot exactly place him
@locuus7
@locuus7 3 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid You would remember him from The Omen, Its an all star cast, Peck, Laurence Olivier, James Mason.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
@@locuus7 oh yes! He was the dad in that film, that's right
@douglassnyder214
@douglassnyder214 6 месяцев назад
2 major differences between movies made now vs those made in the past - First, today, everything is overtly, in your face political. Movies today would do everything they could to make sure you knew that not only Tom Ewell but everyone on the jury was racist and a white nationalist, and therefore the entire town was evil and to be despised. They would all be caricatures of people not quite human, and the film would want you to hate them. The dialogue would be sanitized today and unrealistic. This book, much like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, has been targeted by people on the left to be banned from schools because the use of the N word is too offensive. But as awful as Tom Ewell was, Harper Lee fleshes his character out. Mr. Cunningham may have been with the mob, but he was a real person. He was not evil, but he was caught up in the emotions of the mob. Many of the people in the town may be foolish, but they aren't necessarily bad people. Atticus may hate the racism that was endemic of the day, but he doesn't hate his neighbors. The dialogue is realistic. There is true value in showing the world as it was, for all it's warts but also the good that was, too. The true nature of the American experiment is that in starts and stops and fits of rage or forgiveness, over time we are constantly improving as a moral nation ever since we emerged from the nasty brutish world of the 18th century. Second, this is a story about a daddy daughter relationship, and for Scout, Atticus represents the ideal masculine role model. He always exercises self control, even in extremely emotional situations. He loves his children and raises them to be thinking, moral adults. He sets limits for the children, and he has meaningful interactions with them. He treats everyone fairly. He hates no one. He may think Tom Ewell was a cruel, ignorant and hateful man, but Atticus does not hate even him. Atticus is empathetic to others and their plights, even for a young girl who intentionally, falsely accused his client of rape, but is herself also a victim. He fights for his principles, even if they make him unpopular. He is protector (shooting the rabid dog) and provider. He may be poor, but he is respected. Today, the role of Atticus would be played by a female, and her role would be to prove to her daughter that a woman can beat the patriarchy and racism. Her mission in the movie would be to prove that every white man in town was horrible, but maybe a few white men could be saved.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 6 месяцев назад
I'm not american and don't know that reality but in terms of films and tv shows for exemple I think I absolutely agree with everything you said. We were just genuinely glad we watched this movie 👌 great story tackling big problems in a non condescending way I couldn't have put it better
@RenfrewPrume
@RenfrewPrume 6 месяцев назад
Beautifully expressed! As a professional writer and editor for most of my life (now retired), I take my hat off to you.
@luckyleprechaun-e7h
@luckyleprechaun-e7h 5 месяцев назад
I wildly disagree with what you are saying here because I just saw the play TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD on broadway less than 5 years ago, and it was still this exact story. Jeff Daniels played Atticus and they did this story. They didn't pivot it in any way that reflects the extremes you are suggesting. I am sorry that you see and think everything in modern society is so ready to attack white men. and that the new enemies are women and minorities and such. I think you have mixed up genuine progress, and the desire to get more stories from different points of view out in the world, with what you are describing. if there seem to be more stories from women, blacks, gays, etc. than there used to be, that is simply because the majority of those stories have been neglected for so long now. and they have been neglected for a myraid of reasons. it doesn't have to be an either/or situation. you make some beautiful points here about what is in TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD, which makes the points that you are projecting about what stories and/or how stories are being told today that much more confusing and frustrating. It reminds me of so many male reactions to the BARBIE movie's success this past summer. summer of 2023 for the very first time, the summer big blockbuster film release was BARBIE. for the first time it was a blockbuster made by a woman, about a toy that has been geared and marketed towards girls and women. this is the first time this has ever happened. I am 56 years old. for the past 40 years I have seen the summer blockbuster come out and sometimes folks love it, sometimes they hate it, some movies are hits, some are fails, they all have cost a lot of money, and usually they make a lot of money. these movies have included multiples of-the batman movies, the superman movies, the Spiderman movies, the x-men movies, the ant-man movies, the pirates of the Caribbean movies, the Star Wars movies, the raiders of the lost ark movies, even the Harry Potter movies. yes. all those movies. all these summers. but I have to ask- is there a common denominator with these movies? at all? is there anything linking all of these multiple, multiple movies? anything at all? ok then. yeah. this summer for the first time we had a BARBIE movie. the first one. ever. I've watched all those other movies for over 40 years now. this year we had BARBIE. and so many men lost their minds. they proclaimed the film as anti-men. and when they hated on it-they HATED ON IT. it was "feminist garbage". it was the worst movie ever made. ben shapiro did almost an hour long video proclaiming his hate for BARBIE, including ritualistically setting barbie dolls on fire in the video. (yeah. he's like a grown man or something?) the haters were outraged this "feminist propaganda" telling everyone to hate men and everything awful about men. and BARBIE does not hate men. and it is not feminist propaganda. the film very much cares about ken's story. it could have not addressed anything about ken at all, but it dared to bring his story forward, and we get to see his struggle and what he feels. just as we see barbie's story, even though it is her movie, not his story. how did this go over so many mens heads? it is very confusing, and very sad. BARBIE does address the problems with patriarchy, and it also addresses the problems with matriarchy. the movie clearly shows us why the extreme of either thing is detrimental to everybody. the film is clearly showing how difficult it is to be human. male or female. is the film more geared towards girls and women? sure, the source material it comes from is a doll that was more geared towards girls and women. it has been this way with barbie since 1959. but men complain about this? after 40 years of movies from all of the franchises I pointed out above? I don't remember any female collective outrage about any of those other summer blockbuster films. like I keep saying-for over 40 years now. So I want to say to that complaint from all those men-come on guys. can you be a little more generous or something? one BARBIE compared to all of those other films? do you have a daughter? a wife? a sister? a sense of fairness? any interest in any story that is not your own-somehow? I don't agree with what you say about what this film might be today if it was being made. your characterization seems to come from one who feels attacked and angry. I am not sure why that might be. but I think you might be angry at the wrong people here at least in how you describe what the film might be today. I am not sure why you think all nuance has been lost. when I saw TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD on broadway in 2018, I remember telling a friend that I knew that I would cry over tom, and boo, etc. but I was shocked because I didn't know that Maella, and her story, and how she was portrayed would make me cry with equal power. her scene on the stand killed me. it was devastating to watch her think that the lawyers were making fun of her when they called her "ma'am" and "miss". it killed me. I didn't know the Ewells story could be fleshed out in the way that it was until I saw the play a few years ago. so I disagree. I think it is easy to get on that bandwagon and proclaim those things, but I don't think it is happening all the time, or to the degree with which you are suggesting. good luck.
@Akihito007
@Akihito007 3 месяца назад
@@luckyleprechaun-e7h1. Jeff Daniels is a rabid anti-American Leftist 2. Barbie WAS third wave feminist garbage. 3. Don’t lump being black or a woman with homosexual depravity. God doesn’t condemn as sin the first two groups. 4. Nice try gaslighting but Hollywood has been Leftist for DECADES. Hollywood,colleges, schools and most of the media are directly controlled by white hating, America bashing Leftists. Ben Shapiro is RIGHT about Barbie and his “Primetime Propaganda” book showcased how Leftists in Hollywood took over our culture. They brag about in in their own words because they thought he was a fellow Leftist because he was a Jew who went to Harvard, not knowing he was actually Orthodox and Conservative.
@zammmerjammer
@zammmerjammer 3 месяца назад
What a dumb comment. I'm always amused by people looking at the past, particularly of generations past, with rose-coloured glasses. It's hilarious to me that you are so incensed by any notion of pushing social boundaries TODAY while praising a film and book that pushed social boundaries of the past. The truth is the works of today that you so despise challenge YOU, while the older films and stories challenged your parents and grandparents but came to simply be accepted by the time you came along. That's what rankles you so -- might want to question why that is.
@emwa3600
@emwa3600 3 месяца назад
While American race issues were at the forefront, every society has the lower-class segments that are disregarded, punished, etc.
@StephenDouthart-f8r
@StephenDouthart-f8r 4 месяца назад
Please do Mississippi Burning!🙏
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
I have seen that one (very good movie 👌) but I need to check if she also has seen it or not
@cardboardbelt
@cardboardbelt 15 дней назад
If it's the first time that a person from a minority group is doing something when the majority have been doing it with regularity, then YEAH it IS important! Maybe we should ask ourselves why, at this late date, it's the first time. Maybe it's because our systems have been complicit in delaying their achievement. It's pretty clear to me, as a white person from the American south, that plenty of my countrymen would be happy if minorities NEVER had these successes. That's why it's important to take note when that resistance is overcome.
@kathleenmayhorne3183
@kathleenmayhorne3183 Месяц назад
Maybe he stabbed his father in the leg, because he was mean with his mother? He was mean to everybody else too. Boo turned out to be a friend and a hero for those kids. He flinched when they opened the door he was behind, maybe his dad was abusive all the time with him too. Did the innocent guy really run or were the other cops corrupt like the jury, it only would take 1. Ella-May was frightened of her father, had siblings who would no longer have any income without him. Maybe he did nasty things to her mum too. Every white person in America and Australia is the child of ancestors from somewhere else. Racism is very short-sighted, a product of unreasoning fear of the un-known. There is actually no such thing, it's called genetic pooling.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid Месяц назад
Boo clearly was very traumatized yes 🙁 And yes, a lot of things are only guesses from our part, we will never know for sure
@bankerlaura
@bankerlaura 3 месяца назад
You miss so many details because you talk over the dialogue. Pause the video when you want to talk.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 3 месяца назад
Sorry, this was made as a full length reaction on patreon 😬 only afterwards edited for RU-vid, so there is no pauses, but we watch with portuguese subtitles, no worries 😉
@auapplemac2441
@auapplemac2441 2 дня назад
I'm impressed how much you know about race relations in the US back then. Things have changed, but it's still not as it should be.
@custardflan
@custardflan 3 месяца назад
Free range parenting. That's how I grew up.
@marthapackard8649
@marthapackard8649 Месяц назад
Same here, and it was during the 60s/early 70s.
@ammaleslie509
@ammaleslie509 5 месяцев назад
Black people could not sit on juries back then, and neither could women. Jury service was drawn from voting rolls. Black folks and women were discouraged from registering to vote, even in areas where it was legal.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 5 месяцев назад
So basically you would pretty much have a probably quite biased jury anyway?... We find the jury system quite interesting since it doesn't really exist in our country, here it's only the lawyers and the judge
@ammaleslie509
@ammaleslie509 5 месяцев назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid well, back in the context of the book, where racism was a given, there was no way for Robinson to get a fair trial. And he knew that. That's why he was so distraught, because he knew the accusation was enough to either get him lynched or sent to prison for life.
@imaoregonbum6683
@imaoregonbum6683 7 месяцев назад
Please do a review of 12 Angry Men. Movie not the play.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 7 месяцев назад
That One is in our schedualed list for sure 😉
@ammaleslie509
@ammaleslie509 5 месяцев назад
And please make sure you pick the 1957 black and white version with Henry Fonda and Lee J Cobb
@paulsutubification
@paulsutubification 4 месяца назад
If a man drunk, is trying to kill a child and you kill him, is that murder?
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
You would need to prove it but at least as far as I'm aware no, it's not And in my opinion, not only is it not murder, it is also not wrong
@Fairplayer43
@Fairplayer43 4 месяца назад
Can you imagine some people are trying to ban this book? Ugh! Ignorance!!!
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
Why banning it?
@Fairplayer43
@Fairplayer43 4 месяца назад
@@ptthatswhatshesaid some people think is racist 😯
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid 4 месяца назад
🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ I can't even begin to try to understand that
@willieboy7597
@willieboy7597 Месяц назад
Who the hell are these people
@DO_THE_WORK-k3d
@DO_THE_WORK-k3d Месяц назад
I saw the movie in the '60s when I was a kid in grammar school on television with my family, and later read the book when I was a freshman in high school. So, in my mind, Gregory Peck was Atticus Fench, and the movie was almost exactly like the movie. I recommend that you check out the 1996 film: A Time to Kill. It covers a similar topic and the issues of the danger of racial discrimination, as well as the trial.
@ptthatswhatshesaid
@ptthatswhatshesaid Месяц назад
Oh interesting, because that movie has been mentioned a lot by our patrons 🤔
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