Pr. Ron Kelly's comments about Conrad Vine and church leadership 

Since Belt of Truth previously shared the controversial Conrad Vine comments that got him cancelled, we thought it would also be proper to share these comments from his friend and colleague Ron Kelly. Belt of Truth added the clip of Diop saying they never promoted the vaccine; that was not in the sermon; we wanted our viewers to see it for themselves so they don’t have to take Pastor Kelly’s word for it. Belt of Truth added the yellow text, as well, to help viewers understand some of the politely vague references Pastor Kelly is making. And of course the Conrad Vine post at the beginning of the video was added by us. This video is most of the closing segment of the 8:30am Ron Kelly sermon entitled, “Crucial Conversations,” presented at the 9/21/24 Conrad Vine Religious Liberty Weekend. Enjoy the full sermon here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L1EXBQLXHI4.htmlsi=X3gyn2oZRS_7bM8e Liberty and Health Alliance appeal here: libertyandhealth.org/liberty/

I have been studying the issue at hand and have been for a long time, studying prayerfully Scripture and the S&P. I see that soon there will be no riding the fence for any SDA. It is becoming clear who is doing the cleansing or sifting at this point. I do stand with Dr. Conrad Vine, someone had to take their stand for justice and truth. Many Adventist's lives have forever been altered in a very negative way during the covid crisis, our conferences took their stance with government mandates, some lost their lives, many their careers and marriages, and many who suffer terrible disabilities because they were forced to take the jab. If Christ were here today and Sister White, they would most certainly be persecuted and banned. God help us as His professed people, we are beginning to see who stands for God's truth and they will be few . . .

Especially when President Elder Wilson told us to keep the GC and him accountable, and when we do, we get shut down and kicked out.

Dr. Conrad Vine is a man who has true LOVE and concern for the flock! I would listen to him and trust him guiding me through, but I am sorrowful to say that I can't say that about Mr. Wilson and what seems to be "yes" men, especially with something as dangerous as that medical experiment was, and still is today. Dr. Vine is what a true leader should be. I very much respect him for doing what he did.

I've been praying. I know that we are at the end of time. I heard a sermon on Sabbath that talked about the disciples coming together before Pentecost and confessing their faults one to another. Prayer and confessing led to the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. We need the outpouring of the Holy Spirit as the latter rain.

I am definitely standing by pastor Conrod Vine

Well, I won’t be sitting on the fence where truth as it is in Jesus is concerned. God’s gave is church the health message and freedom of choice. So to be cancelled for specking truth or shutdown for wanting to address important issues,is not the spirit of God.

Lord help us! The greatest want is men who are not afraid to call sin out and who cannot be bought or sold. God help us 😢

This is precisely my point. I certainly don't want any split. But leadership of the GC cannot be made to believe that they can abuse their office without any repercussions

Thank you for posting this, I hope and pray it clarifies what was said and not said. I’m deeply disappointed in our GC, and support Dr. Vine. I believe there is still potential for good to come of this. Praying for Dr. Vine, the GC, and most of all that the brethren will press together ❤️🙏 God Bless you Scott and your ministry ❤️🙏

Have to say it: The clip of the GC Religious Liberty director saying they never promoted the vaccine is one of the most bizarre turns in the church Covid saga.

This is a direct consequence of the conference siding with the state and sticking their head in the sand. Conrad’s sermon would not have been necessary if the conference would have addressed the issue when it was brought up. Oh, by the way it’s still hasn’t been dealt with. This makes it difficult to believe they will stand for their members in the future. 9:37 0:03

Finally a voice of reason that I agree with 100%. Praise the Lord! 💕

Jesus called out the leaders when they were wrong. Mrs. White called out the leaders when they were wrong. Conrad said nothing wrong. He called out the leaders as so few Pastors are willing to do. I disagree and am disappointed in much of what Ron Kelly said. He sounded prideful to me. I stand with what Conrad Vine said at the Caribou church. Conrad is most courageous and we pray for him daily.

If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God. . 3T 280.3

I was so uplifted by both of Pastor Kelly’s sermons this past Sabbath. Particularly poignant was that reminder of Elijah, following his huge day on that mountain , running in the dark of night and storm before the chariot of Ahab to see that he returned safely. Sacrificing self to serve the King who sought to kill him. This is the mind of Christ.

I'm going to be a little transparent right now........... Since 2020 the thought continues to stir around in my mind that says, "I wish Pastor Ron Kelly could become our next General Conference President.

I stand with Dr. Conrad Vine

Scott, I’ve been praying hard for the GC leaders to open their hearts to reasonable and valid correction. I'm praying too for Conrad Vine and his family. Pastor Vine did a very honest and courageous thing and put in words what many have been thinking and feeling since the 2021 reaffirmation statement. I'm extremely grateful for your own ministry. How does someone from Canada provide financial support to Belt of Truth? God is being glorified by your ministry. Bless you, Mr. Ritsema.

I'm a fan of brother Vine, the conference eh, the SDA movement, a big fan after 30 yrs in pentecostal churches this has been a blessing. I live in Sebring Fl and attend sporadically the Avon Park SDA ch. It was wonderful 16yrs ago when we became members. My wife is involved in guest ministries and is always in attendance I usually lean more toward the third angels message and tend to seek that out. Conflicts in leadership I usually ignore simply because it's not my job to pull up tares. Character development is crucial now as we are so close to the final events. I usually walk past your home every morning as I'm trying to get my 11,000 steps in. One day I hope to meet you I've been keeping up with your ministry since we had those big old sat dishes and could record everything when Amazing disc. came on the scene. Anyway nothing that happens within the GC will affect my walk with Christ He is my all in all. God bless you Scott and your fam.

The biggest and most detrimental issue IMHO was not that the GC supported the jab (although history and the truth known even at the time about the possible health dangers of these experimental treatments has and will continue to prove that decision un-Inspired), but that they refused to allow exemption letters to be written. THIS is the issue that needs to be changed immediately, no more discussion. If they had promoted the jab but still given out exemption letters for church members who requested them then, even if the person’s employer still refused to allow it, the church would not be in any way liable for condemnation. However, I will also say that the GC also allowed their university leaders and hospital leaders to force and pressure the students (both prospective and already attending) and employees to take the jab or be quarantined and PCR tested WAY too often, which wasn’t healthy either. Yes, term limits, lest they begin to behave like dictators, not leaders.

We should have a term limit for GC and Union leadership. Our organizational structure is the same as that of the Roman Catholic church, which Sister White strongly opposed.

The leaders of the GC denied/prevented the prayerful discussion of such matters publicly and so addressing the publicly certainly isn’t divisive. Enough of the gaslighting regarding the position they have taken, the difficult position they placed their fellow brethren and and the harm they have caused by their official statement past, present and future.

I have never seen such a emotionally charged time as now. I fear this emotion will not calm down anytime soon. I hope it does. I hope there can be calm discussions. But it seems like it is getting worse. That makes me sad.

I definitely stand with Dr. Vine. Its not right nor helpful either to mis-represent SDA as "Closet Terrorist". This need to be address urgently. Pastor Kelly, what he is saying is so vague, and unfair argument.

Pastor Ron, the GC leadership caused the death and injury of many of our brethren. Pastor Ron, so since you disagree with the call for a "para Church," what's the parth forward if and when the GC leadership impose future mandates on the global Church? May I suggest that "doing nothing" IS NOT an option. So if you have a better option I am willing to listen to it. In closing, it's strange and amazing the venom with which "a mere suggestion was met with. Yet it I feel like the magnitude of the GC leadership’s handling of the crisis and the decisions are either not realized or are been down played.

So Pastor Ron believe that we should respect Diop after his bold declaration that the Catholic church has changed?

It's all about the money 💰

Unlike Pastor Ron I am not a boatie. It's clear who has betrayed us and it's not Conrod Vine. Truth doesn't need to be dressed up in fancy garb.

I appreciate your video approach throughout all of this... You've kept it simple, to-the-point, and non-insulting to my intelligence.

It seem Paster Kelly is missing the point about the para church and redirecting tithes as Conrad vine said if the conference does what they did in 2021 in the future we would be in our right to do so, it would seem the Pastor Kelly is taking the side of the conference leaders on that point this sadness me, I stand with pastor vine not the conference on this point

Well said. Amen.

His speech was confusing. It seems he was playing up to each side.

I am not follow any man but christ,

With all due respect: I disagree "We ought to obey God rather than men" (Acts 5. 29). You taught us about freedom of consiencie and speech, but you failed the test. God is looking for men who are willing yo say "... God whom we serve is able to deliver us... but if not... we will not ... (Dn 3. 16-17) obey your mandates May God have mercy on us

thanks Scott... and in all my comments in certain sites etc, I try not to misjudge Ron Kelly because deep down I respect the man, he stood and still stands with the downtrodden... the problem Im seeing is, we are asking ourselves to be humble on this issue, which is good, but the arrogance from the other side is just too much... No apology, nor acknowledgement of wrongs, nothing whatsoever. And lastly, I believe, Dr Vine nor us (conservatives and the concerned) we are no longer able to stop this... somehow God is now taking the reigns, the motion is set

Tithes are a testimony from us to God that we are faithful to His provisions, not the worlds.

Incredible! Nice way to straddle a fence. I was hoping the local and most popular leaders would have the courage to call sin by its right name. This controversy would not have been aroused had the GC leadership acknowledged their tremendous errors, made restitution, then assured us nothing like this would ever take place again. They doubled down, then labeled those who call out their sins and errors as slanderers and seditious. Jesus is King, the wheat and the tears will grow together until the harvest, but make no mistake, Ezekiel 9 will be literally fulfilled. Study these words for they will be literally fulfilled; yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep. They refuse to humble their souls and to be converted. {18MR 236.2}

It didn’t say whisper, it says with a 🎺 Isaiah 58:1 “Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.”

Dr. Jelly, just a question, why if you did not promote in any way the covid=19 vaccine for the SDA Church, , why you ban Dr. Vine? Wouldn't be a better solution to talk with him as brothers in Christ?

RON SHOULD GET THE B. B BEACH METAL OF HONOR FOR THAT COLD / HOT, WHICH TURNED, TO LUKEWARM SPEECH.

Seems to me that pastor Kelly is doing his best to take neutral ground. The leaders must be held accountable. There is nothing wrong with strong protest, directly calling for an apology and suggesting certain actions to avoid future abuses. I for one, believe cancellations will continue, and, am very doubtful that any substantive corrections or apologies will take place; why? because Sr White said - when the Omega gathers steam and momentum - "...NOTHING* will be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement..." 1sm 204. How, then, will the true work come to a glorious close? By means of the "irregular lines" or a "para-church movement.

Good video somebody keep removing my comments

Pastor Kelly, where is the protest..?? This is very disappointing to hear dancing around the issue and justification not to stand up for the oppressed 😢 I pray for you 🙏

BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS,FOR THEY ARE SONS OF GOD!!! AND WHO CHOUSE TO BE ACCUSER OF GODS CHURCH ALWAIS BE MUCH WORKS FOR THEM,BECAUSE FIRST ACCUSER HAVE MORE KNOWELEDGE AND DEVICES THAN PEOPLE..

The shaking is here. What happens next? Keep on praying. The hierarchy is on it's way; along with the Occult Christ (Scott knows what I mean) in 2025. We are heading for the MOB. I hope we are all ready!!! Maranatha!

I feel for RON KELLY but the unanswered question of the GC SESSION BLUNDER and who said what and who made the call and BRI STATEMENT still is up as a FUNDAMENTAL STATEMENT the root issue has been blurred with all the drama this is like a local church board picking curtain colours never ending seriously pick one issue and resolve it - all this TITHE AND INDEPENDENT MINISTRY and MICHIGAN AND STEVE BOHR debates and finger pointing is a distraction from the ISSUE

You are right. It's like the "real issues" are been avoided. The question on the floor remains. Will the GC impose future government mandates on our people?

...and non adventist truth seekers won't be convinced to come around adventism where there is bickering and the devil laughs out loud when he sees them falling prey to Babylon and her daughters.

Are they going to fire Pastor Vine? Is this the result of the cancellation? What exactly does that mean? And how is this going to be resolved, or will the GC even work with him?There must be some kind of resolution right? I’ve been praying God’s will be done on this whole crisis 😢🙏

It’s so hypocritical to do a religious liberty weekend after doing everything against it as a church. Pastor Kelly if you stand up for truth and religious freedom, you would resign. Your actions and words before and after Conrad’s talk are very contradictory.

I think he would make a great president of the GC!!

Is It Only me or is Ron Kelly Dancing with both sides, he's in with everything and everyone NO CONTINUITY Just wants to be friends with ALL😮😢🎼🎵🎶🎻🎻🎻

Spoken like a true enemy.

He says he wants to be enlightened which he was but then says it wasn't helpful...lol to whom? Its a warning.

Im trying to understand the comment that seemed to not be a full sentence at around the 4:30 mark... Where he didnt think "it was helpful that people with opposite points of view, primarily, with the exception of the MI conference it appears to me ..." I just cant make sense of that. Can anyone help me there?