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Predicting How I'm Going to Vote The Milgram Characters || MILGRAM 2nd Trial 

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So, here is how im planning to vote the characters for the 2nd trial ! My opinion might obviously change after watching the MV but let's just wait till then ^^
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Characters are from MILGЯAM
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Music by zukisuzuki
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@mozzipoxx
@mozzipoxx 2 года назад
There should be a therapy option
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
So true Or else I'm joining them in prison
@enbie_pal
@enbie_pal Год назад
Technically there is. Es chooses the punishment for the guilty. It doesn't have to be execution or lifetime incarceration. We can put him in a hospital until he is mentally stable enough to return to the outside world. If we choose to make him innocent then he is back in the outside world without any proper care. So I think I choose guilty for his sake, unless there is a flaw in my thinking.
@riverthecrybaby9448
@riverthecrybaby9448 Год назад
FOR AMANE ESPECIALLY
@apatheticartist9708
@apatheticartist9708 Год назад
Is that not what forgiving them is?
@mozzipoxx
@mozzipoxx Год назад
@@apatheticartist9708 no lol, it's holding them accountable for what they did but helping them work through why they did it
@alvaritoterreossama9967
@alvaritoterreossama9967 Год назад
I ain't forgiving Kotoko, for almost killing the only 2 people on there that in the first MV showed how scared of what they did they were, and also, 2 of the 4 that didn't commit an actual murder themselves.
@sugariehailey3339
@sugariehailey3339 Год назад
Totally valid,like it’s a three trial system for a reason,to dig further into the sins each prisoner has committed each trial,I get shes an anti - hero but she shouldn’t have rushed in to kill them without the final judgement
@ZhiningAnomalie
@ZhiningAnomalie Год назад
Ironically the two who indirectly caused deaths were the ones who were injured lol
@name3834
@name3834 Год назад
How do we vote
@tsukodome6132
@tsukodome6132 2 года назад
"I'm leaning to FORGIVE but let's wait for the mv ^^" Me watching Haruka's MV and listening to his Voice Drama: I'm sorry Haruka-san...
@dadragoon3303
@dadragoon3303 2 года назад
Thank you so much for using forgive and not forgive instead of innocent/guilty lol, the english translation of milgram is..... a thing that exists
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
True!! The translation really gives off the false vibes.. ppl be actually thinking of inno and guilty verdict instead of if they would forgive them But ngl I sometimes use 'inno' as well because it's shorter than forgive and I'm too lazy to type these extra 2 letters- BUT the others get what I mean as in inno=forgive
@shortie_cake
@shortie_cake Год назад
Tbh i liked futa from the beginning of the first trial because i think he regrets his actions AND HES GUILTY it broke my heart :( and he and kotoko had the same motive ( kinda ig?) But kotoko is willing to kill again for justice and i don't think futa would
@sleepy_swirls
@sleepy_swirls Год назад
My thing with Muu is that her MV is the easiest to decipher, and that's what scares me. If most of her crime has already been solved through her first music video, what the hell is deco gonna do for the other two??? Based on the preview, it sounds the song is going to sing about Muu's ego, which can only go so well.
@eeveegirls6047
@eeveegirls6047 Год назад
so how we doing buddy
@sanagimbap
@sanagimbap Год назад
Oh well it looks like there was a HUGE other part to her story that wasn't mentioned in the first MV. Which was who instigated this problem and now the whole community's opinion on her went 180
@kohik0
@kohik0 Год назад
@@sanagimbap they literally went from "oh no she got bullied let's vote her innocent" to "NVM LETS SPAM THE GUILTY BUTTON" she has the highest guilty vote in all of MILGRAM so far
@ptsgamesz694
@ptsgamesz694 2 года назад
Amane did not deserve her guilty verdict she clearly was overly brainwashed by her parents to the point people who think her "ways" are wrong she would act nuts Im also pretty sure she can't possible kill Shidou as a 12 year old but her new trailer for the mv does sounds a bit suspicious
@Lenfan00002
@Lenfan00002 Год назад
I think she migh be refering to the one she killed
@monokuma5351
@monokuma5351 2 года назад
I'll leave my predictions on how I will feel about them, although seeing the utter destruction of All Knowing and All Agony ripping the entire fanbase in half, I am sure I will be wrong about at least 2. Haruka- I know he's already out ,but I'll put it here anyway I for sure thought going into it I would find him Unforgivable ,but as much as he needs therapy the MV cleared up a lot about his motive for me so I ended up voting to forgive. Yuno- I'll probably be voting to forgive her, unless a new crime is revealed IE the abortions weren't the only thing she did or it ends up being a coin locker baby senario(Which I doubt). I personally don't mind her facade slipping into a cold ambivalence, as long as nothing about her crime changes I think it's gonna be forgive. Futa- I don't think he intended the result of his actions and feels guilty about it, that's why I think he is so stubborn about trying to deny the title of 'murderer', Also looking at the title 'Backdraft' it seems like it's possible we will see deeper into the actual results of his actions, so I am leaning Forgivable but I hold my judgement in this case. Mu- Unforgivable Unforgivable Unforgivable Unforgivable Unforgivable Unforgivable Unforgivable Shidou- Given the fact that the title of the song is 'Triage' I think it's safe to say the organ harvester theory is dead, I think his crime is the most unforgivable by nature, but I like his philosophy so I'm very torn on how to feel about him, if it weren't for the need to keep him free to do as he wishes I would be in the middle here, but I'm leaning towards forgive because of it (Although I don't want the meta game to be the most important criteria for me) Mahiru- In comparison to the entire cast she should by all accounts be forgivable, but for some reason her attitude just fills me with rage I think my gut will probably force me to give a guilty vote here. Kazui- Jackalope does not seem to be very fond of this man, given his statement on him during the start of the first trial, he seems forgivable but I can't help feeling that he is somehow double speaking the MILGRAM system with the theater symbolism, I don't know how to predict this man so I'm not gonna try. His second trial song sounds like it's gonna be an absolute bop though. Amane- As much as I don't want Shidou to die I don't see a future where I vote this little monster Forgivable, there was a hinted darkness in her in the last few seconds of Magic and now I'm just scared at what The Purge March has in store for us Milgrammers. Mikoto- This is a pretty wild pick but I think he will be Forgivable this time around, in MeMe there was a line that hinted that the murderer version of him was created out of a need for such a personality "I will save me" and such, and looking at the lyrics we have from Double, I think that may very well be the subject of that MV. BATMA- Kotoko- Yeah she's crazy af, unless we get a massive curveball here I think she's probably unforgiveable.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
All Knowing and All Agony rlly be ripping ripping fanbase apart 💀💀 Currently th3 votes are 50,2% forgiven & 49,98% unforgiven.. never seen that before I can imagine it happened to Amane 1st Trial but WOW I like your reasonings ! I think I was angry at Mahiru as well in the 1st Trial because of her reasoning but rn I'm planning to keep this girl alive,, I swear if even one of them die in the 2nd Trial I will riot 😤😤
@mahogania5536
@mahogania5536 Год назад
I think an overbearing person like Mahiru is much more dangerous than an unavailable one like Kazui. You can never escape from them if they wish so, no matter what you say or do
@avery5920
@avery5920 Год назад
u were sso right about kazuis song
@monokuma5351
@monokuma5351 Год назад
Cat was indeed a bop.
@blanklily25
@blanklily25 Год назад
not kotoko being batman lmaoooo -mallow
@jokerlyzermedia6603
@jokerlyzermedia6603 Год назад
Kotoko is easily the most UNFORGIVABLE. She would've killed Mahiru and Futa if it hadn't been for Shidou and Kazui! And she's def killed more than one. She thinks she can kill anyone who's done wrong. Def voting guilty when her second trial releases.
@whizz_0711
@whizz_0711 9 месяцев назад
Faxxx and don’t forget mahiru (she even said she didn’t have time to punish amane too like HUH???) bet she don’t even fact check what crimes they committed since fuuta and mahiru both indirectly caused their murders and felt remorse, also not guna ignore how she called yuno a slut -__- I might be falling into milgram’s trap but SO WHAT….
@AveryScarlet
@AveryScarlet 2 года назад
Won't spoil the results so far since the poll isn't done yet, but this is the first in a while where it was stuck at 50/50 for a while. People have been REALLY split about Haruka's 2nd trial. Far longer compared to My during the first three days when her 1st trial came out. It was only like two days ago when the tie broke, but the side choice that won is very slowly rising up.
@CrunchyBananaBread
@CrunchyBananaBread Год назад
I never believed the "organ harvester" theory because it seemed too dumb for me... Like, Shidou's a doctor. In what way is he supposed to steal organs from a hospital??? 💀 He's also like the only one who deeply regrets his "crime", even straight up asking for the guilty verdict (take note that none of the prisoners can lie in their mv's). So I'm glad that i forgave him, and I'd gladly vote him innocent again for the next few trials if it meant saving the other prisoners, especially after watching how his character developed in his 2nd mv. Well... Ngl i kinda voted him innocent on the 1st trial cuz he's hot... 🙊
@justanaverageperson2162
@justanaverageperson2162 11 месяцев назад
NAW HE h a d A WIFE AND KIDS
@Emannecalz
@Emannecalz 11 месяцев назад
here is what I voted everyone for T2! I wasn't there for the first three, but I wouldve def voted all them innocent Muu - I voted her innocent to save haruka. Shidou. Innocent to save mahiru and incase kotoko gets inno and beats up muu and haruka Mahiru. Innocent. Self explanatory. Kazui: innocent. Self explanatory. Amane: innocent. She is friends with fuuta and mahiru, and she isnt going to let them die. Mikoto: Innocent. We broke his mental health voting him guilty and also his alter said he was going to dissapear if he was voted inno, which means he won't beat anyone up. Kotoko. On the fence. Morally, she is innocent. When It comes to haruka and muu, GULTY. Self explanatory.
@rinrin2408
@rinrin2408 2 года назад
I think Kazui is an undercover cop, who pretended to be in relationships, I saw really good theory talking about this on twitter and it makes sense, specially in with how he acts in the voice drama
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Pls Kazui save Es and the others
@IzzyD.Anarchy
@IzzyD.Anarchy 2 года назад
Uhh...After seeing All Knowing and All Agony, Haruka is barely forgivable. I'd forgive him more if he did in his own mother, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Although he does need therapy, and possibly better people to surround himself with. Yuno, I'm not so sure, but I'm leaning slightly towards unforgivable considering it could be a possibility she killed her child after it was born, but because we don't know what the situation is, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Futa is forgivable. He did want to make someone pay (even if it's a kid) but what separates him and kotoko is that he didn't intend to get someone killed and the fact that he's impulsive. Mu is a strange case. She seems to ha Janice's ideology about evil people (assuming you ever watched Mean Girls). Because of this, I'm leaning more towards guilty. Shidou...no matter what the verdict is, I think he's the most likely to die this time around. So with that line of thought, I might as well vote him unforgiven Mahiru is leaning more towards forgiven. Like Futa, she didn't intend to get someone killed, but she does have a severe flaw in her sense of love. Kazui is not only forgivable, but unless there's some plot twist that he killed his wife, in terms of legality, he's innocent and shouldn't have been in milgram in the first place. With the thought that Shidou might be the most likely to die, Amane can be forgiven, but like Haruka, she's gonna need to surround herself with a better crowd. She's only in milgram cuz her cult gave her the Charlie Manson treatment and made her carry out the crime. Mikoto is a hard one to gauge. But I would say he is forgiven. People say sundown syndrome, but in his QnA, there are some answers that point against it. He did say in there that he was already forgetting things before milgram (most likely during the day), before working daytime, he was a night person (meaning that he does have the ability to remember what could happen at night) and that its disgraceful to get angry (although that's a horrible thing to lean on). This could most likely mean that his episodes are stressed induced, and every single one can be traced back to that trigger (being in prison with no idea how he got there, how es pressed him on a murder he claims to not remember, getting a unforgiven verdict, and Kotoko attacking him as an icing on the FU cake) Kotoko is unforgiven. I get that she's a vigilante and yes, she did kill a bad person, but her flaws are ridiculously extreme and contradictory. She claimed in her first trailer that she won't forgive the evil hurting the weak, and what does she do post first trial? Tries to kill a Twitter boy and possibly the ideal wife, disproving her own ideology. Smooth. As previously stated with futa, they may have similar premises in justice, but Futa wants to stop evil people, whereas kotoko wants to kill evil people. Futa's case is most likely an accident that he claims full responsibility over, whereas while kotoko knows she did what she did, she's unapologetic to it, and it spilled over with the guilty gang. That is all. These are all based on the cases and prisoners themselves as opposed to the butterfly effect of what happens if we vote x person forgiven/unforgiven.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Yeah, Haruka didn't have to kill his sister or whoever that girl was.. but when I think about it didn't Haruka kill her when he was still a child? What was his mothers response? Why didn't she get him help / the treatment he deserved before it was too late ? I think after seeing him kill animals I would have probably asked a professional for help.. It really is hard to choose whether to forgive or unforgive him. I'm even considering to stop voting on his round and just stay neutral I would wait for Yuno's MV and then make my final choice. If I see even one freshly born baby then we know what to do 💀💀 But I'm having high hopes it's not going to end that way ^^ I wonder how will Shidou die? If it's not by Amane hands then who ? His own? I actually feel like he was lying about wanting to have the penalty ( he is playing 4d chess with us ) I'm also leaning to unforgive Kotoko this round as well.. you have a point ! I feel like if Futa was forgiven on the first round he would have stopped Kotoko as well since he hates violence. I can't wait for the MVs of everyone ^^
@IzzyD.Anarchy
@IzzyD.Anarchy 2 года назад
@@kindnapkin somethings been bugging me about kotoko. Why did she give Futa and Mahiru hell while she could only draw with mikoto? When they first fought during his interrogation, she won that exchange, and without weapons. Unless plot, I highly doubt mikoto should have gotten away from the second exchange with a headache and ripped up clothes.
@noahi.1381
@noahi.1381 2 года назад
How are yall doing after Tear Drop
@IzzyD.Anarchy
@IzzyD.Anarchy 2 года назад
@@noahi.1381 I'm fine. But her case is too confusing. I will say this though. I shouldn't trust the crime being abortion because she said so. Ultimately this is a case and it still needs to be solved.
@sugariehailey3339
@sugariehailey3339 Год назад
I’m not sure but I think Yuno’s crime is just abortion since in her voice drama she said what she did could be ‘considered’ as murder,whilst if she actually killed her baby it would literally be murder
@bubblycass
@bubblycass Год назад
As of 05/02/2023, Haruka and Muu have been made guilty and Yuno and Fuuta innocent :] i love fuuta so much
@zanthiablue5254
@zanthiablue5254 2 года назад
Personally I am on the side of forgiving all of them. Now we know what being branded "guilty" means, and that it is only going to get worse from here. All of these prisoners thought they were doing the right thing when they killed, whether they regret it now or not. There is no nuance or subtlety here. It has been foreshadowed that at the end the guilty prisoners will be killed. I dont know if that is based on the last trial or a majority or what but I dont believe in the death penalty. I certainly dont believe in the death penality for 12 year olds. I also dont believe that torture is ever ok, and the guity prisoners do seem to have been tortured to some extent that we know will only get worse.
@zerosaga5949
@zerosaga5949 Год назад
Oh so an update to Kotoko's reasoning for not killing anyone, she says that she won't kill anyone because they are still awaiting judgement. Y'know, one thing that confuses me is that every prisoner pairing has something in common apparently. 1,2-9,10. What I don't get is why Kazui is paired with Amane. Sure, they had a family issue (the cult she was left with because her dad was supposed to come back, but never came back and it's assumed they made him disappear) but as far as we thought, Kazui's story had to do with his partner committing suicide... so why in the hell is it not Mahiru who he was paired with? Sure, her and Shidou we're obsessed with love, but this makes me wonder if she actually did something to him because she "loved" him... and on that same note, I wonder if the pairings are vague? 1,2- attention 3,4 - Bullies...? I thought Mu was being bullied and retaliated, but if SHE was the bully... that changes a lot. It looked like she was bullied though, gotta look into more 5,6 - obsession/love (would do anything for their partner. I'm still not sure how this led to Mahiru's partners death, but it was implied that she was clingy and stalking him prior to dating. I think he died when she went over his house...) 7,8 - Family. Kazui's wife and Amane's dad seem to be very important to the turnout of their stories. Amane's dad was supposed to come back for her, but I'm pretty sure the cult made him disappear. He could also just be a deadbeat, but it doesn't sound like it from how I remember she described him. She also tried to do the right thing before being brainwashed, so that's probably a sign of her father. Maybe that's why he tried to leave in the first place? And yeah, Kazui and this other girl that wasn't his wife... they said that he lies a lot, and that his lies got someone killed, maybe meaning it was his lies that pushed his wife to suicide. but that based on his murder, while HE feels like he murdered her, other people may not see it that way, so it's implied that she committed suicide. 9,10 - I personally think it's multiple murders. I'm pretty sure Kotoko killed multiple people in her vigilante endeavors... but it's true that we only saw one person die. The problem here is that she has something in common with Mikoto... and as far as I know, Mikoto's personality counts as a separate person because he has DID, dissociative identity disorder. If it isn't killing experience, it's a head scratcher for me... Their interrogations didn't offer much either, but it doesn't sound like experience because the alter personality is an amateur at fighting and seemed to want to protect Mikoto. With that in mind... maybe it has something to do with their goals being similar. Idk.
@prometheos2
@prometheos2 Год назад
For 3 and 4, it might also be "role reversal", imho. Muu might have been a bully-turned-bullied, while Fuuta might have targeted by his cyberbully "companions" and is *very* scared Es might hurt him like his companions did to the victim. For Mikoto, he definitely had experience as he was able to tie with Kotoko during their inter-season fight. His fight in the cell might be him trying to copy his alter, or him being powered at night, basically like a werewolf is during full-moon nights.
@alyssiaclicque2752
@alyssiaclicque2752 Год назад
Ive seen somebody describe Kazui and Amane as unfaithful and faithful. it's a very condensed way of stating their stories but i do think it fits.
@kiramyssu
@kiramyssu Год назад
I think Kazui and Amane connection might be "lies", as in Amane's whole life was a lie since she grew up in a cult, and Kazui made his wife's whole life a lie as his marriage wasn't sincere (There's this theory Kazui is gay, so the "our whole marriage was a lie" makes more sense here I think Kazui always talked a lot about this one male friend of his in his interview, and there's a milgram portal conversation where someone (I think Mahiru??) asked what Kazui's type was and he said a "nice girl" something over those lines, and then Yuno called him out on the fact he was lying, he may be just lying about the fact he likes nice girls, as he prefers idk mean ones??? Or he was lying about the fact he likes girls to begin with)
@Emannecalz
@Emannecalz 11 месяцев назад
For 09 and 10, I'm going to say Mikoto was protected (by orekoto(not calling him john lol)) and Kotoko was the protector (for es and "the weak")
@yas0pp_397
@yas0pp_397 Год назад
Actually, for Shidou, he explained that he was asking to the family, "do u want to use an part of his anatomy that could save someone in the need who can still be saved", because he was taking parts of brain dead people. That actually doesn't get read of his multiples /kill, but proves he uses parts of already dead people, and with asking the family (even if i agree, he could ask it better than "can i use ur dead husband to save a life"
@megarotom1590
@megarotom1590 8 месяцев назад
So I think the interesting thing on prisoner #2 is perhaps the reason she's in Milgram is her own guilt on the matter... voting forgive though cause even if she wants to be judged for what she's done I think she's suffered enough at the very least from the guilt alone. Only reason I'm even tempted to vote not forgive is cause it's possible feeling like she got away scot free for something she sees as horrible might end up making her guilt worse
@nocturne_interlude
@nocturne_interlude 2 года назад
May I write down my own prediction and old judgement here ? Haruka : 1st trial : I wasn't here, but I would've forgiven him 2nd trial : I understand people's reasoning and that he should be guilt, but I can only forgive him. 'I vote him/her guilty so he/she will realizes his/her mistakes" has done more damage than anything else. And he clearly needs therapy more than a guilty verdict. He also need to be taken away from Mu, but the problem here is Mu. Yuno : 1st trial : Wasn't here, and I didn't understand what she was doing here. like at all. So I would've forgiven her, I don't judge something I can't understand. 2nd : YAS QUEEN. Her crime has been confirmed to be abortion and I love her way of thinking. No room for doubt here. Fuuta : 1st : Wasn't here, would've forgiven him without a doubt. Seriously when I saw the result I was just like "WHY ??" I mean look at him at the end of his song and in his voice drama the boy just feels so bad about it--- 2nd : FORGIVE HIM. I don't think anything will change my mind, that boy deserves forgiveness Muu : ... 1st : Mu should've been guilt to me. But not by me. I was in a similar situation before so I understand her too well, and the ones who say that she fake her harrassement or anything drive me crazy, but I have to admit that her behavior is bad and she need to realise that... she killed someone. Despite everything she's been through, she's still alive. What she did can't be justified and was far too extreme, as understandable as it is. I would've fogive her cause I don't want to stress her out even more than she was, but she should've be guilt. 2nd : Not Forgive. I don't care what Haruka said, I'll judge Muu for what she did, nothing else. Shidou : 1st : Wasn't here, but I would've forgiven him 2nd : I want to forgive him, but I remember the presentation video of every character, before the 1st trial. There was these blurry sentences, and Shidou's was scary... I hope he stays the way he is, so I can forgive him Mahiru : 1st : Wasn't here, and I didn't know what I would've done. The first time I saw Mahiru MV I was petrified. I didn't understand the lyrics, but I already knew what it was about. In fact, Mu's MV did the same thing to me. But while I felt bad for Mu, Mahiru just scared me. I was not as extreme as her but I acted in a similar way I think, and I somehow understand her feelings too well. And I hate it. (I was only between 12 and 14, and it didn't lead to anyone's suicide, don't worry.) She don't deserve to be vote guilty, she just need to understand where the boundaries are But I don't think I could have forgiven her. Probably cause I couldn't forgive myself, honestly 2nd : Forgive. She have been destroyed by the verdict, and don't deserve this. Kazui : 1st : I still wasn't here (Yup, I came very late), but I would've forgive him. Because his crime is still unclear to me, it's not legally considered murder after what he said, and because he already feels so bad about it. 2nd : Still forgive. He hasn't change, so I won't either. (But I have to admit, I'm very curious to see his reaction if he's voted guilty once... I don't think this would happen, though.) Amane : 1st: I came in during the end of her vote, so I didn't vote for her. And I wish I had, because her guilty verdict was so wrong. So far, I can accept all the verdicts that have been given, whether I agree or not. But not Amane's. I would have forgiven her. 2nd: Forgive. She's already destroyed, and she's not going to change her mind just because she's been found guilty. Besides, pushing her over the edge seems dangerous. Just forgive the little girl. Mikoto : 1st : I vote him guilty cause I was not sure about him. But I can't help noticing how he was in pain during the whole MV, and I was almost sure about his DID, so I was really close to innocent him (I do think I vote him innocent once or twice, but I mostly vote him guilty.). The only thing that stopped me was that he was threatening us, honestly. 2nd : Now that the DID is confirmed, and on a second look... I really want to forgive him, but I don't know if I can. His white side doesn't even know what's happenning and I feel so bad for him. His real side is dangerous and can't be considered a good person, but from the first MV it seems like he was seriously desperate, and I wouldn't be surprised if he created his white side to protect himself from a trauma somehow related to his murder. So I want to forgive him. But considering his situation, a perfect 50/50 vote would be interesting too... Kotoko : 1st : I Forgived her. I'm not proud of that. But even though I realised that she was losing common sense all through her MV, I also noticed how low her self-esteem was, and it's hard not to understand her desire to punish criminals that the law ignores. Coupled with the fact that her case is considered legitimate defence, I could only forgive her. 2nd : But sadly... She losts her common sense all though her MV. She clearly said that she don't regret anything and the she thinks she was right. I think I totally forgot that they were all criminals in Milgram. I suddently realise that I don't really want to punish criminal, and that it changes everything when I know them. Well, I'm still not against what Kotoko is doing, but as Yuno said, she's the kind of person who won't try to talk to you to understand and just jumps to conclusions. She doesn't know what the other prisoners did, and yet she has beaten the ones voted guilty. She didn't follow her own standards or rules, and she probably wouldn't feel the same way about all the prisoners as we do. So here she didn't punish the criminals, she just blindly followed orders, or what she thought were orders. Because she doesn't even know why we found them guilty, and this is only a temporary judgment. I'm not totally against her actions, but she needs to think more seriously before doing anything (like Fuuta, in a way). Still, I won't forgive her. Aand, that's it. In the end I think I understand most of your POV (Except for the reason to guilt Amane and forgive Kotoko, ig). I'm really scared about the choices people will make, I hope it will turn this way for most of them...
@aplitmox
@aplitmox 2 года назад
I'll do two lists (Sorry for how long my explanations are without me going in as depth as I would If I was quoting every point of evidence for my ideas verbatim just wanted to be clear and have it somewhere so I can copy and past it lol), the first list will be looking at them as individuals In comparison to the information I have now, the second will my best thought out way of protecting as many people as I can (Regardless of my opinions) "Hopefully". (Notice I used Guilty, unforgivable, Forgive and Innocent, just think of it as a scale the worse / better outwards from the middle of unforgivable and forgive.) List 1: 01 Haruka- Forgive (If he was found guilty it could lead to a relapse to such events in his song, i.e. his mom / the lady rejects him and that leads him to kill more, because of his "plausible" child nature.) 02 Yuno- Innocent (I don't see an issue with compensated dating, people make money in all ways abortion can just be a part of the job, though my attitude may change if in her third song the theories of her raping someone become more realistic...) 03 Futa- Forgive (I forgave him before on the guise that he thought he was leading to making the internet a "safer place", but the complete shock on hit face in the first trial installs the thought that he didn't even think suicide was a possibility/ he most likely wont do it again or as far... This comment better age well.) 04 Mu- GUILTY I mean unforgivable (She literally didn't learn anything because we affirmed her thoughts that she didn't have to say sorry... Also I would have voted her Guilty before due to the same reasons but I joined this community recently :p.) 05 Shidou- Forgive (If he starts getting arrogant about it like Mu, so help me I will SMITE him myself... Anyway he ahs done terrible deeds and is willing to die for them I can forgive those who know they have done wrong I guess or at least see it as so, leading to their repent.) 06 Mahiru- Guilty (Just because she is beaten up like Futa and had a shocked face at the end of her song I really don't think in her circumstances that she wouldn't do it again and until she wouldn't I will Vote Guilty again.) 07 Kazui- Innocent / Forgive (If he was in this scenario again I highly doubt he'd do it again... Even though I'm sure he is lying to us and down playing the scenario in his mind it could be a sort of self reflective denial he forced onto himself in the first song or a lie to hide his part of the crime from us / cheating if he did do that, to look more innocent. Though to be honest even in the worst imaginable version of his crime while being realistic / him no longer loving his wife who has severe dependency issues + severe cancer that he knows about and while that is happening he is cheating on her at his hostess job with multiple men and women while distancing his and his wife's relationship without ending it. I forgive him, at that point he is a terrible person but he knows it and at least seems to be trying to show all the story in his conversations and songs piece by piece. 08 Amane- Guilty / Innocent (My opinion is simple, She is innocent and should have been voted innocent the first time so she understood that but now we are on this route, she has become irredeemable by the Guilty and Innocent system so all we can do is keep her restrained even if she dies. Though if there ever comes hope while she is restrained in her next song you bet I'm gambling Innocent on her.) 09 Mikoto- Guilty / Innocent (From my knowledge of D.I.D usually the person will form an alter / alters to live a more "shielded" life that the other can't due to the extent they are disturbed, meaning the aloof normal guy we know who may be in his second trial showing that he is aware that he is an alter... well is the alter / double... not the "Yakuza" serial killer / the original so I'm going to safely say guilty him unless this song is specifically about the alter, Mikoto having nothing to do with the murders, if it turns out he knew and was just lying to us about not knowing what he had done to protect the OG he is in air quote "just as Guilty".) 10 Kotoko- Guilty (Her acts may be more admirable than killing your wanted loving lover / Mu, but she still should be held responsible for her actions like Mu also side note I believe if Futa was found Innocent he most likely would have helped Kotoko to an extent.) List 2: 01 Haruka- Forgiven (In the case that he is seen as Guilty / rejected like his mother / that lady it will lead to him being like Amane, an uncontrollable monster who will have to be restrained every time after this due to being a threat to himself and everyone else. 02 Yuno- Innocent (I'm pretty sure continuing to innocent her will keep her in her "contemptuous" state even if it's going against the desires of Jackalope and the program. 03 Futa- Unforgivable (This voting style is specific to making sure he doesn't try to kill Kotoko, though I completely plan to Innocent him on his final since I don't believe he deserves it.) 04 Mu- Guilty (Need to distance Haruka and her co-dependency so two guilties on her and two innocence on Haruka will hopefully do the trick. Kotoko better not hard girl boss... of course that depends on my upcoming opinions/ Mikoto's song) 05 Shidou- Innocent (We need him to continue healing everyone I just hope he doesn't either become arrogant and refusing of helping the "Guilty ones" or refusing of healing others due to being voted Innocent / that would be said in his Trial 2 song.) 06 Mahiru- Guilty / Innocent (What ever really, she could be voted innocent just to see where it goes, I doubt she would hurt anyone or herself in either options... I hope this comment ages well.) 07 Kazui- Innocent (He protected someone so I want him to stay inclined to do that again with a vote of Innocence.) 08 Amane- Guilty (We can't have Shidou being injured so she must stay restrained.) 09 Mikoto- Guilty / Innocent (Ok so hear me out, this completely depends on his second song if it turns out we can neutralize his wrath with an Innocent then so be it / we can safely then restrain Kotoko and Futa too to keep them both safe, provided Mikoto can protect everyone from the OG... In the case the second song doesn't go down that path then we vote him Guilty and Innocent Kotoko attacks him / protects the rest of them and we most likely can Innocent Futa because at that point I doubt that we have to worry about him trying to gain revenge.) 10 Kotoko- Guilty / Innocent (Follow on from Mikoto, there is literally now two flaws to this plan... Kazui will most likely stop Kotoko from going to far or Futa / Mahiru /…Highly unlikely Amane of attack on her, from gaining their revenge but in the case any of them do try anything we'd have to hope Shidou heals who ever gets hurt by Haruka due to him either being distanced from Mu or order from Mu to go ape shit on someone, probably Kotoko if this is her second Trial girl boss route.) (My own votes will be a mixture of list one and 2 depending on how I'm feeling. I might edit this once more of the songs are out, but as of now prisoner 01 and 02 are the only ones with others songs its only speculated off of their snippets of their trial 2 song. Also other information such as Jackalopes recap of trial 2 and / or Es's interrogation's have been used.)
@Rednodge_9
@Rednodge_9 2 года назад
love the editing :) seeing your opinions was fun!
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Thank youuu :)
@gondolaFGC
@gondolaFGC Год назад
The one I'm absolutely dead set never forgiving is Es lmao.
@Error-gz3pp
@Error-gz3pp Год назад
I think abortion is a much more contentious topic in Japan, so that’s why Yuno is there (we have to remember that Milgram is a project from Japan and most likely wasn’t meant to get so big in the West, so applying Western values on what does and does not count as a crime might not fit). Obviously I don’t believe Yuno has done anything wrong and I will vote her innocent unless she really did commit another murder, though.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE HARUKA AFTER HIS NEWEST SONG ???
@doordonut-.-281
@doordonut-.-281 2 года назад
I've voted forgive since it came out, but now I don't know anymore 😫
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
@@doordonut-.-281 sameee😭😭 it's like almost 50% to 50% on his votes,,, I think everyone is unsure I just hope he's going to positively improve,,,
@ksharavyyy
@ksharavyyy 2 года назад
it’s still 50/50 help 💀
@doordonut-.-281
@doordonut-.-281 2 года назад
@@ksharavyyy Bro b4 it was 50.02/49.98 and now it's 50/50 again 💀 i don't think we're going to reach a verdict for Haruka at this point
@rinkelly5102
@rinkelly5102 2 года назад
HES LEANING TOWARDS GUILTY AND I AM VERY SAD
@kt_throwaway9994
@kt_throwaway9994 Год назад
I got into this literally last night, so I missed the first 3 for Trial 2, but I'll share my thoughts for the rest of them. *TLDR LIST* Innocent : Yuno, Futa, Shidou, Mahiru Guilty : Haruka, Muu, Amane, Mikoto Not Sure : Kazui (depends on MV), Kotoko (depends on Kazui's verdict) Muu and Haruka are sowly building up to be like Kris and Noelle in Snowgrave (Deltarune), if all Guilty prisoners are restrained, then yep, I'm fine with both of them being Guilty. Shidou shoud be kept Innocent because he is actively working to atone for his sins by saving lives, like he did with Mahiru. Had Amane been forgiven, we wouldn't be stuck with this, but she's ultimately going to be permanently Guilty if it means the healer is safe. Besides, Amane is starting to grow violent based off her song teaser. Mahiru is harmless, both because she didn't technically k!ll someone herself, but because she's also severely injured. At least for this trial, she needs some time to heal. Kazui, Mikoto, and Kotoko are a dangerous 3 way dance. Under the right circumstances, and yes I know I'm about to come off as a cold blooded SOB, I'd want to organize a deal that lets Kotoko take Mikoto out. Kotoko and Mikoto are the two biggest threats to Es, but the difference is Kotoko saved their life, Mikoto threatened it. Kazui is kinda in the way, because he and Mikoto are smoker buddies, so of course he's going to save Mikoto if he's free. If Kazui is shown to be less forgivable than Trial 1, I'll vote Guilty. I'll most likely vote Mikoto as Guilty. I'd vote Kotoko as Innocent. Just for that one job. Then I'll condemn her in Trial 3 as she's now a liability. However, if Kazui is still forgivable, and he turns out Innocent, then I'll vote for both Mikoto and Kotoko as Guilty.
@kaiaromanelli-sr4rx
@kaiaromanelli-sr4rx Год назад
personally, i might not be forgiving anybody but futa, yuno, and amane (maybe kazui? dunno much about him. shidou is hard, i really want kotoko to be voted guilty but if she isn’t then he might need to be all good, but if it looks like kotoko isn’t gonna be guilty i’m voting mikoto forgiven)
@personafreak
@personafreak Год назад
if kotoko gets forgiven we can expect both muu and haruka DEAD in t3 art bc haruka said he'll khs if muu gets voted guilty and guess what! and then kotoko beat up almost everyone that was guilty last trial so muu is also gonna 💀 i think unless shidou helps
@axsoajakan
@axsoajakan Год назад
i'm voting forgive for mikoto, the reason is that his alter can hurt es, so for safety reasons i'm going to forgive him ;-; (tho it depends on his mv)
@Grey-i2o
@Grey-i2o Год назад
Ik this video is old BUT I VOTED EVERY DAMN DAY FOR INNOCENT DURING AMANE’S TRIAL AND THAT SHIT HAPPENED TO HER
@rrosachinensis
@rrosachinensis 2 года назад
okay, so, Haruka's 2nd trial MV is here.... boi im so shocked.
@ptsgamesz694
@ptsgamesz694 2 года назад
in Haruka's 2nd trial voice drama he said if we vote Muu guilty he'll off himself
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Fr I literally don't know what to do,, a lot of people are not going to forgive Haruka this round and I read theories that it's good cuz' he will be restrained -> not able to off himself ?? It could work but what about 3rd trial..
@meria2082
@meria2082 2 года назад
Haruka - 5050 pls I wanna know what happens if we do that Yuno - forgive/5050 she doesn’t care what we vote her so maybe we can reject voting by making it 5050 Futa - forgive he’s my fav Mu - 5050 like haruka Shidou - forgive cause song Mahiru - forgive bc we did her dirty in trial 1 Kazui - idk for now, leaning towards inno Amane - idk she could’ve healed if we forgave her in trial 1 but there isn’t rlly anything we can do now Mikoto - forgive cause the reason mikoto’s alter attacks is to protect him. Therapy for mikoto and his alter(s) Kotoko - I’m fine with any verdict If you couldn’t tell, I want jackalope to mald
@Starlight-Tale
@Starlight-Tale Год назад
Based. I'm not sure whether or not I agree with all your verdicts, but I, too, want Jackalope to mald.
@meria2082
@meria2082 Год назад
Now that haruka was guiltied jackalope is prob gonna make fun* of us
@meria2082
@meria2082 Год назад
Thinking of how likely it is characters will repeat their crimes Haruka - thinks he wasn’t wrong. He might not kill for his mother’s attention, but he has a chance of doing it again for someone else Yuno - if she’s gonna continue paid dating, there’s a p high chance she’ll have another abortion Fuuta - low chance he’ll get back into witch hunting after driving a middle schooler to soup of side. Especially after what he went through in milgram Mu - low chance she’ll be bullied to the point of needing to take a life, but she doesn’t think she was wrong so if that happens she’ll prob repeat her crime Shidou - i don’t think he’ll do funky organ things again. According to one of his voicelines, he now understands the value of a life Mahiru - atm there’s a low chance she’ll love so overbearingly that her lover soup of sides. She believes that if her way of loving is wrong, then there is no point in her living so i think she’s actually more likely to take her own life Kazui - low chance it will happen again. I think he might stay away from romance for a while Amane - there’s a pretty good chance she’ll repeat her crime Mikoto - if he gets released from milgram as he is now i think he’ll repeat his crime. Actually considering the possibility that mikoto is the one who kills, while the alter is trying to save him Kotoko - very high chance she’ll repeat her crimes
@Starlight-Tale
@Starlight-Tale Год назад
@@meria2082 Not sure either way about Shidou, Kazui, or Mikoto, but I think you're generally right on the basics of these
@Dhamar.Rojas.
@Dhamar.Rojas. Год назад
I wasnt around for the start of this and couldnt vote for the first trial but if I did here would be my votes Haruka- Imma be honest I did not understand anything that occured in the song itself and although I knew he for sure killed someone I was confused on motive and because I didnt know anything I had to Forgive him Yuno- Yeah no doubt about it forgive Futa- I might be biased cause I saw the comments first before actually watching the vid but I say Forgive cause its obvious he regretted his actions Mu- I did not forgive her, LISTEN LISTEN, I saw the part were the girls stomp on her phone and noticed the picture and my immediate thought was that she did something to cause her bullying from her past friends and with that in mind I decided that maybe she isnt as forgivable and that she in fact is not what she seems to be Shidou-I dont kno I saw a lot of theories being thrown out there and I didnt really think the organ harvesting was his thing so forgive Mahiru- I really feel like shes a stalker and very delusional and was very wary of her from the start even before I watched her video and only heard the small clip of her song I felt she was odd so not forgive Kazui- I liked him from the start I saw him heard the clip and thought yeah I forgive this guy and after listenin and watchin his vid yeah I still thought forgive there is obviously something behind all of it but I dont know he seems alright to me Amane- okay so from the start I was wary a kid who has killed can be seen as something to be very careful with, nature and nurture concept coming into play, and with the cult thing that came to light I also did feel she needed to learn what was and wasnt okay and decided on not forgive Mikoto- not forgive :/ I saw the blatant blood shed and it heavily leaned me to not forgive Kotoko- I was iffy on her from the start as I said before I saw the comments in futa's video and immediately formed a bias against her and for Futa after watching her vid Im still unsure how I would have voted on her Its easy to sympathize with her because of the abuse that was hinted at and feel that the man who she killed deserved it to some point but I also felt that her views on being a vigilante were not to good and should be cut down so I dont kno on her
@jeandandelion9736
@jeandandelion9736 Год назад
Actually, after 1 trial and 4/10 MV from second trial. My thoughts look like: 1) Not Forgive 2) Forgive 3) Forgive 4) Not Forgive 5) Not Forgive 6) Forgive 7) actually don't know 8) forgive 9) YES, I FORGIVE HIM, but he really need psychiatric help. In first MV was shown that he had at least two personalities and after first trail it was officially confirmed, so he is innocent, but his second personality - isn't. 1) not forgive. I'm pretty sure, that she killed more than one person and some of them was innovative
@manicbeyond
@manicbeyond Год назад
Ummm about the whole Kotoko thing, based on what you've said in the video, I'd vote her innocent, (not that anyone will) because like... if she's giving justice to those who are guilty, and she's guilty, what do you think she's gonna do? Off herself. And we don't want death. We want them to live.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin Год назад
I think that everytime someone gets the guilty (not forgiven) verdict they get restrained in some kind of way. So I believe if Kotoko is voted guilty, she won't be able to hurt herself in any kind of way and I'm still not sure how to vote her :')) I just don't want her to hurt anyone else..
@manicbeyond
@manicbeyond Год назад
@@kindnapkin That's a fair assumption, totally forgot the whole restraining guilty members aspect. Honestly, I'm just voting everyone innocent because I feel bad for all of them. I don't think I can help Mu, which is 100% fair.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin Год назад
@@manicbeyond Yeah, that's so true!! It would be so much nicer and easier to forgive everyone but I don't think we will be able to save Amane, Mikoto or Kotoko TT
@sadie9205
@sadie9205 Год назад
I missed the Yuno trial but I would’ve deff forgiven her, def gonna vote Futa innocent (I don’t think he should be there either ngl), and probs gonna vote Kotoko guilty
@aaaaaaabbbbbbccccc
@aaaaaaabbbbbbccccc Год назад
Because Amane's t2 song comes out tomorrow I'll state my peace. I'm pretty sure that I'll vote Amane guilty because 1) I really don't think anything redeeming will come out of her song, 2) Innocent votes affirm their thoughts and I do NOT want her thinking that her cult stuff is okay (I know this will likely have little impact on her views of the cult but I still wanna plant that seed of doubt) 3) I don't want her to hurt Shidou, he will be helpful to Mahiru and Futa's recovery Guilty votes will physically restrict and reject their thoughts and I think that's what we should do for Amane
@Tarien001
@Tarien001 Год назад
Well, how did you vote after video? Guilty?
@aaaaaaabbbbbbccccc
@aaaaaaabbbbbbccccc Год назад
@@Tarien001ahhhhh I honestly don't know anymore... If I vote only on if I forgive her or not then it would be a not forgiven. She killed for her religion (she said in her voice drama) which is why I don't forgive her. It would be different if she killed to stop the abuse but she didn't. But Napkins has a a good video on Amane's trial, I just don't know what to do anymore. I also hate the "Shidou can protect himself, he's an adult!" Yeah? Amane has killed an adult before so I don't see the point in that statement. I think I'll wait till we get the other questions answered from her
@worm7064
@worm7064 Год назад
Honestly, I’m glad Amane is guilty- If we voted her innocent, they would “affirm her ideas” and she would fall even further into her cultish beliefs. I forgive her, but I’m still voting to deny her mindset. I think the whole “you have awakened something” implies that she’s been possessed by whatever deity she was worshipping
@endmeeeeeeeee1836
@endmeeeeeeeee1836 Год назад
No offense, but are you slow?
@shihoizumifan
@shihoizumifan Год назад
What is bro on about 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@foderis8777
@foderis8777 Год назад
Honestly, we should have voted Shidou guilty to keep him alive and make Amane happy, since she hinted that in her voice lines, but at this point she is too far gone so nobody cares.
@Daisyhatingugolyee
@Daisyhatingugolyee Год назад
when did jackalope call haruka and muu slave and queen? was it in the convos from the app?
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin Год назад
He said that during the Second Trial Commencement Notice! ^^ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ChehsI3E4OQ.htmlsi=DiONKIL2Cumg5gkW He mentioned it when he talked about Muu
@omumafu6346
@omumafu6346 2 года назад
how did u even get that trial 1 theory from mu's mv???? they couldn't get anymore explicit that mu got bullied for being in love with her victim and then the victim was a bystander and as mu begged for her to help, she turned her back on mu and mu killed her in a fit of rage
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Well At the end of the MV you see Mu infront of the teacher's desk with flowers in her hands. Behind her is a blackboard with death threats written & drawn there ( also a doodle of a person who looks a lot like her victim ) and on a random desk is a vase with the same flowers Mu is holding.. Putting flowers on a students desk can mean they have passed away and it just a form of respect _but_ If the student is still alive the flowers would mean you wish for their death.. it would mean Mu started the whole bullying thing I'm assuming the last scene happened before Mu was bullied by her exfriends but that's just a theory ! Nothing is correct and we should wait for her 2nd Trial MV..
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Forgot to add but the reason why Mu would even bully her crush is that Mu & her victims love relationship didn't work right and Mu wanted to punish her -> which lead to her starting to bully her victim but the friends didn't like the idea and it just turned out like that.. That's a theory I read in the comment section of the MV and I find it quite interesting
@azaclex7765
@azaclex7765 2 года назад
Amane deserved the guilty verdict
@Eskiyorumlarcokcringesorgulma
İdk who should I vote but I'm not voting Futa guilty
@ItzYuki
@ItzYuki 2 года назад
Yeah at this point everyone is going to Mu unforgivable now 💀 (as you all should-)
@mcmona4171
@mcmona4171 2 года назад
Prisoner 001 - I love him but i think i'm voting him guilty so he realises that what he did was wrong. Prisoner 002 - INNOCENT Prisoner 003 - I think i might vote him innocent this round (even though i kind of like hurting Futa) but depends on his MV Prisoner 004 - As someone whose been bullied before i can understand how being pushed in a corner feels. This is where i think my interpretation diverges. I noticed that the three girls has different coloured socks: dark blue, pink and purple. To put simple, the girl she killed had dark blue socks, and probably did have something to do with the bullying. Mu was clearly on the verge of killing herself as indicated by the hourglass, and her socks that were white 2:08 (the girl she kills socks turn white). I'm not gonna lie, Mu's change in demeanour does make me uncomfortable but i still don't know if she deserves a guilty verdict. Maybe, like Haruka, if she doesn't have any remorse then a guilty verdict would make sense. Prisoner 005 - He is one of the characters that actually felt bad about what he did. I feel sorry that the person he was trying to save died. It's pretty much the train dilemma where you choose to either save one person you know or multiple strangers. Except in this version everyone dies anyways. Innocent Prisoner 006 - During the interogation she firmly believed herself to not to be at fault. We'll just have to see her MV if she's changed that mindset. Prisoner 007 - I'm probably going to vote him innocent. lol I'm getting tired from using my brain. Prisoner 008 - Girl's nuts. I can imagine her MV being as terrifying as how she looks now. If she is voted innocent, she will definitely kill someone, probably come after Es. I'm vote Guilty. Prisoner 009 - I think he needs to stop letting his alt control him. I still think a guilty verdict because there's no way he doesn't know about his alt killing people and just lets it happen. Prisoner 010 - Actually i hadn't thought about her preventing Mikoto from killing anyone.... Nice video
@Qilinkasa
@Qilinkasa Год назад
About mahiru, it's just my opinion so you do you want to take this or not. She didn't directly kill her partner, her partner cuicide bcs he can't life with mahiru anymore, he tired with how possessive mahiru is and decided to kill him self... maybe-
@cayden3929
@cayden3929 6 месяцев назад
i don’t think shidou is faking wanting the death penalty. in my opinion, he didn’t realize how bad his actions were until it happened to him. now he has nothing and just wants to die, and realized how much he made others hurt which makes him hate himself. his ass is still guilty as hell though.
@thiefpotato2759
@thiefpotato2759 2 года назад
I feel like I am gonna have a couple of unpopular opinions, but here we go. Haruka- Unforgivable. He is a danger to Amane and he has been emboldened by the forgiveness he has been given. Also, he has threatened peoples lives if Mu is guilty. Yuno- Forgive. Not only because I am pro choice, but a lot her words don't match up to reality. 17 year olds don't just decide one day to go out and sell themselves out to older men when they have access to income. Its pretty obvious that there is underlying trauma and I hope she gets therapy. Btw, i am pro smex work, I just don't think 17 yos think of that as an option with a good family/life. Futa- I am leaning towards forgiveness, but he is still saying that he did nothing wrong. I don't like that. He got assaulted and could be trying to play it cool, so thats why i am not 100% unforgive. Mu- Forgive. Unless I am missing some stuff, I don't see where people are wanting to unforgive her. Shes a traumatized child and there was an implication of SA in her first mv by her bullies. Also the "slave/queen" dynamic is something that the jackolope has mentioned in a way that makes it seem like Hakura is the initiator. Not to mention her cover is otome dissection, which is a song about ending your own life. And while her mv was very direct, its pretty obvious that the board wasn't a literal board filled with comments that she directed towards others. It was placed there to show that she had no remorse for someone (from my perspective) stayed silent and let SA happen to only brush the victim away after she tries to confront her about it. She didn't deserve to die, but its messed up that she literally left an extremely vulnerable/mentally broken woman to metaphorically dry. Also not to mention that most of her lyrics are specifically about being forgiven and not being heard, which wouldn't be about the murder because she doesn't feel regret. Maybe I am projecting some of my trauma onto her, but until I see something bad, its a forgive to me. I feel like a lot of the evidence for other rumors are just not enough. Shidou- Forgive and for one reason only, I don't trust people to make the decisions to keep everyone safe. They gave Mahiru the guilty verdict and let Haruka be innocent. Someones gonna get hurt and I wanna make sure he's there to help. Mahiru- Forgive. She should've never been guilty. Outside of Yuno, she is the most innocent person in there. His death wasn't intentional and I feel like even if she was a stalker, thats not enough reason to put her guilty. Kazui- Forgive. I will say my gaydar is going off a bit. Not much else to say as all we know is he didn't lie to her and he regrets it. Amane- Forgive. I think while she is a danger, her being around Kazui will enable change. Plus, I don't see Kazui letting her kill anyone. Mikoto- guilty. His alter coming out isn't really a sign that it is hostile, it coulda been out to protect him. It doesn't make sense since it specifies that his alter is not in the program, which means that Mikoto is the murderer and not his alter. I think people are avoiding the signs because his usual is very docile. Kotoko- unforgive. Take her down a peg because shes using the guilty verdict to kill people. Not good to have her out doing whatever she wants.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
Wait how is Haruka a danger to Amane specifically?? Other than that I like your theories/opinions! Kazui not letting anyone die/kill each other seems realistic and he learned self-defence stuff ( also yes, I have seen the theories of him being gay and the green apple thingy.. We def need more proofs but its very possible ) Also Shidou is going to play the healer so I think no one is going to die this round ( and of course forgive Mahiru cuz' she is on the edge of dying but we are not going to let that happen )
@luminousdelight5097
@luminousdelight5097 Год назад
Tbh, I think Futa very much knows he did something wrong, because he even ends up crying over it in his VD. The reason he gets so defensive about it is because, i mean, hes in prison with several people that have committed first degree murder that have been forgiven while he 1. Didnt do it directly 2. Was just part of a crowd of perpetrators while hes the only one being punished. 3. Never did this with the intention of killing, he did doxx the victim, yeah. But I would just say thats recklessness and hardly malice (a little bit still). A permanently damaged eye is more than enough punishment for what he did, and he already feels guilty enough over it
@bluerain9468
@bluerain9468 Год назад
This is going to be long pls bear with me 😭 - for me, im going to vote Kotoko guilty this trial. Speaking of Mikoto, I think im gonna leave it to Kazui cuz he's the one who saved Mahiru from Kotoko and had a spar with her. It is even complimented by Jackalope that he has great brawns. Also in his interrogation file, he reveals that he's a martial artist (he said hes good in Judo). So yea... - EXACTLY MY POINT ABT HARUKA AND MUU. I also wanted to seperate them SOOOOOOO badly but unfortunately, i entered late (or should i say returned) to the fandom just to see both of them GUILTY. I was wondering if we could just make Muu innocent and Haruka guilty, our asses will be saved (or not). Idk its a 50/50 situation. Alsoo, didnt Muu threatened us in the first trial drama cd? Yea, thats the reason why i dont trust her at all.
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin Год назад
The whole Muu and Haruka situation was hell :'DD Everyone almost forgived Haruka until he threatened doing the s-word if Muu doesn't get forgiven.. So then everyone immediately voted him unforgivable. That's when everyone thought Muu would probably be forgiven so we could separate them but nopeee :>> I also couldn't forgive her ^^ And Deco*27's tweet after Muu's verdict terrifies me. Don't really remember what he said (I can look again) but 3rd Trial will NOT start good :'))
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin Год назад
I'm still not sure about how I'm going to vote Mikoto. I'm thinking about forgiving him because he is stressed and his alter actually did the crimes, not Mikoto. If we don't forgive him, it would actually make things worse I think? Plus no one would be able to stop him except maybe Kazui, but he said that someone like Kotoko is stronger than him and she was the only one who could fight against Mikoto... Idk there is so much going on 😭😭
@bluerain9468
@bluerain9468 Год назад
​@@kindnapkinactually :)) i mean would do the same as the voters (voting them guilty) but the chances are risky and futile. My guess is that Mu planned this all along so that itll be difficult for us to vote her guilty. Anyways, lwts just wait and see what happens after the 2nd trial :'')
@bluerain9468
@bluerain9468 Год назад
​@@kindnapkinif we vote him guilty one more time, his mental state will deteriorate even more and will make his alter stronger and even more violent that, i believe, Kotoko or Kazui might not be out alive. My best bet would be that we'll just vote innocent :'''') and wait.....
@sirennetteofthesea9197
@sirennetteofthesea9197 2 года назад
Wait wait, i need to know since I’m kinda new to the fandom (thanks to Harukas new song!) Were do we vote?
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
There is an app but it's jp exclusive.. if you got an ios you will need an VPN for the app but if you have an android then QooApp will work perfectly ^^ If you don't want to do all the work to get the app then I think the website will also work perfectly fine ? I haven't tried the website yet.. I believe it's always linked in the description of the MV but not sure ^^
@Kickingkairain
@Kickingkairain 2 года назад
I vote on the website, you dont need a vpn or anything like that. All you need to do is log in with your twitter or Line account. Then you can vote!!
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny 2 года назад
ohh wow
@4CLOVEROFFICAL
@4CLOVEROFFICAL Год назад
Where do you vote?
@lollipopgamer7008
@lollipopgamer7008 2 года назад
What how do we vote someone tell me 🤧😓😭
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
If you have an android you can get the app through QooApp Or Go to their official website, then menu and then "JUDGE".. I think you need to link your twitter acc when you want to use their website 🤔?
@SunriseGirl
@SunriseGirl 11 месяцев назад
Are those plushies real?
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 9 месяцев назад
yess
@kawa8149
@kawa8149 Год назад
But like wasn't Shidou just taking organs from braindead patients? Patients that you can't help, bc they are almost dead? And he feel bad for persuadeing familys, to let do so, bc when his family died, he didn't want to takes their organs? I preety sure his situation is similar to Yuno. But although people can have a theories and kind man Shidou, may be not so kind Also I generaly think Kazui is sus. We know from his voice drama that he is never ending lair so I refuse to believe in anything this man says. He is actor in his mv, first trail didn't affect him at all or maybe he is just hiding behind a mask. I vote him guilty bc I don't trust him at all also I think he could win fight with Kotoko, even if no he has Fuuta and Shidou on his side Also I want to forgive Mikoto bc like, this dude isn't even aware that he comitted a crime. Come on how we can blame him, for something his different identity/personality did. (Also this did killer is so fricking disgusting trope can we stop doing that) Love Kotoko, but (I don't think she killed just one person) I will vote her guilty, to make her learn her lesson. I don't think she will attack other prisons if she will be guilty, bc I don't think she still be treating Es judgement as vaild. Also as much as I want Amane Innocent I'm scared she will kill Shidou, so not this time. Also generaly thing we a bit duck up this poor kid. She should be voted innocent at first trail, so we gained her trust and then guilty, to show her war cut did wasn't right. She wouldn't listen to opinion some she know nothing about.
@lilianaaraujo6091
@lilianaaraujo6091 Год назад
Mikoto inno
@kirajohnson5098
@kirajohnson5098 Год назад
bro kotoko i wont forgive for to bc she almost killd prisoner 6 and futa looks more cooler now lol and futa did not mean to commit his crime but he was on line bullying thats why the person he was bullying killd him self so futa is in milgram
@danamilgram
@danamilgram 2 года назад
haruka innocent yuno innocent fuuta innocent mu guilty shidou innocent mahiru innocent kazui innocent amane innocent mikoto innocent kotoko innocent yes i am biased, yes i like mu. but i don’t want her to influence haruka anymore.😢 and i am extremely disappointed in that his guilty votes are more
@danamilgram
@danamilgram Год назад
also i have a change of heart mu inno pls
@leoelace
@leoelace 2 года назад
2nd trial Haruka wont forgive Yuno forgive (im pro choice) least terrible in milgram 003 (if he atones, then inno)
@mintxxxxx
@mintxxxxx 11 месяцев назад
Im absolutely voting Kotoko innocent like it really was a fair kill, a song was a banger, I feel like Es kinda knew what we`re getting by accepting her offer to work together... she did it for justice after all. BTW HER SECOND SONG MUST ALSO BE AN ABSOLUTE BANGER SOOOO
@doordonut-.-281
@doordonut-.-281 2 года назад
For me: Haruka:Forgive (tho im not sure anymore) Yuno: Forgive (least problematic prisoner so obviously) Futa: Forgive (He didn't mean to kill anyway, he just took it too far, and also I don't want him to be hurt again) Mu: Unforgivable (I never liked her, she gives me bad vibes, and the "Queen and Slave" thing as well) Shidou: Forgive (just because he can heal any hurt characters, tho im gonna vote unforgivable in trial 3) Mahiru: Forgive (I think in her Voice drama she said that her love killed someone else, so maybe she killed him out of "love" so he doesn't go to prison??? Idk) Kazui: Forgive (I'm not sure about this on tho Amane: Forgive (I think she should be voted unforgivable, but I wanna see what happens) Mikoto: Unforgivable (his alter's a psycho 🙄 love Natsuki Hanae but I'm gonna vote that for all 3 trials lol) Kotoko: Unforgivable (just so she doesn't hurt the other prisoners- I don't want anyone to die 😭, her reasons are justifiable tho, I think she takes things too far sometimes) Most of my decisions aren't based on whether I think they're right or not, its mostly just so everyone survives 😂 (until trial 3 atleast) other than that I'm very interested in what will happen after all the trials.
@doordonut-.-281
@doordonut-.-281 2 года назад
Bro this is the longest comment I've written in my life 💀
@waterfall2161
@waterfall2161 2 года назад
I have the same voting stragedy lol: trying to make sure everyone makes it to trial three. Might as well share my own thoughts in response to yours. Good job on writing a long comment Haruka: Forgiven (I don't want to hurt him more mentally than he already is. He needs to heal. Besides, I'm scared of what he might do if given guilty verdict to regain our or Mu's favor) Yuno: forgiven (exactly what you said) Futa: forgiven (only to be save so that he doesn't hurt himself/gets hurt again. I could easily be persuaded to vote him guilty again though) Mu: unforgivable (I like her, but she needs to be separated from Haruka. And she also needs to realize her crime isn't 100% justified) Shidou: forgiven (also only because he can heal the others. Would have voted him guilty if not for these circumstances) Mahiru: forgiven (it's been confirmed that she'll die if she gets attacked again so easy choice. I'm pretty sure she got her lover to delete himself) Kazui: forgiven (he can protect people, but I also don't trust him at the same time so not too sure) Amane: unforgivable (only because she threatens to hurt Shidou and with guilty verdict she'll get further physically restrained. Would have voted her forgiven otherwise) Mikoto: forgiven (I don't think it will matter much and it may be better for his mental health. I want to know what the other person's motive is. Protecting is very vague. I don't think they're 'psycho'. The crimes aren't supposed to be either black or white) Kotoko: forgiven (she can protect Es from Mikoto so we need her. And I'm scared of not forgiving her. What if she starts seeing herself being above Es? You have a good point though so I'm not sure if this is the best choice) Only two people I'm not forgiving, I'm such a nice person. Maybe voting everyone innocent is the savest option lol
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
@@doordonut-.-281 oohhh!! I agree with almost all of them !! After listening to Haruka's new MV, it's soooo hard to choose 😔😔 I want to forgive but I don't want him to change in a bad way,, SO CONFLICTED ( I hope we will get an interrogation like on the 1st trial... but by then his voting round will already be over ) Yuno really is the least problematic of them all and Kazui as well but I find Kazui quite suspious.. Jackalope said Kazui changed inside but he hasn't realised yet / doesn't show it on the outside????? JACKALOPE, JUST TELL US I CANT WAIT ANOTHER YEAR FOR HIS MV !!! And I'm also confused whether Kazui actually saved Mahiru from Kotoko ?? I don't remember what Jackalope said but I saw on twt he didn't ( or took his time to do so ? ) Yeah, Futa never meant to kill anyone. He just liked the idea of cancelling people online but like not actually hurt them physically ( perhaps ) I think in his voice drama or interrogation he mentioned he hates violence 🤔 Not going to forgive Mu this round either. I already didn't forgive her on the 1st trial, here she is even more unlikeable Mahiru's MV is going to be really interesting! We didn't see her kill her partner in the 1st trial mv ? Like the only think that could have indicated it was her jump to hug them ? And then at the end we see her terrified expression... Maybe she saw her partner kill someone in front of her ? And then decided to end him herself ? Well she definitely lost it but I don't want her to die so most likely going to forgive her Shidou is forgiven since he is the healer lol but yeah my plan is it to not forgive him on the last trial Amane is REALLY complicated.. If we forgive her she is definitely going to hurt Shidou and or stop him helping the others _but_ I feel like Shidou should be able to defend himself against a 12 year old 💀💀 *Imagine losing a fight against a 12 year old* ( she probably is stronger than him but if they actually fight then he might kill her since his 2nd trial design has scissors in his waist bag ) I DONT WANT ANYONE TO DIE OT FIGHT PLS Communication is the key, everyone. Mikoto is definitely unforgivable According to his interrogation he works in a fashion design agency ( idk what it's called ) but like there are a lot of people and he said he *worked hard* to get in.. ( he probably killed all the other candidates who were supposed to get him / had better chances to get in ) I have also read a theory that his alter ego actually tries to help him and wishes the only best for Mikoto even if it means to kill everyone in the way ???? Idk let's wait for the MV Kotoko is COMPLICATED AHHHH I don't want her to touch any prisoners ever again but her crime was actually good... I'm happy she punished all the criminals outside of Milgram ( I think these criminals mainly attacked children ? I don't remember ) She knew of their actions and only attacked them to some degree. If what I understood of her MV is correct then she only killed on of them and they truly deserved it. But currently she doesn't know any of the prisoners crimes.. idk I think after her first kill she started to enjoy hurting people. ALSO isn't it quite weird how _much_ she trusts Es ?? Like I think she just wants to stick to them since they have a higher position. The moment Es loses their authority she might stop acting like friends ? I *really* wrote a lot 💀 If my teacher asks us to write an essay I already know what to give them 😭😭
@kindnapkin
@kindnapkin 2 года назад
@@waterfall2161 yeah, I feel like to make everyone survive it's the best to forgive everyone 😭😭 And yeah nothing is black & white. Even if we vote someone forgiven it doesn't actually improve them as a person.. or make them realise how awful their crimes were. That's actually what I like about Milgram ! Sometimes people don't learn from their mistakes.. it's quite realistic It makes me think of troublesome students who even after getting detention in school they are just going to continue afterwards So, yeahhhh Everyone from Milgram needs a therapy session
@doordonut-.-281
@doordonut-.-281 2 года назад
@@waterfall2161 yeah voting everyone innocent would definitely be the best option, since Kotoko won't attack anyone and Amane probably won't do anything, but Mikoto is kinda of a wild card tho, and I guess you're right, we don't know their motive, so maybe they had their reasons. If something does happen with Mikoto tho, I think Jackalope said he could do something about it, idk if it would work tho. Also, idk if Amane is really a threat since how is a 12 year old gonna beat up a 29 year old man?!😭 (I was talking about this with my sister and we thought it be funny if she's secretly hiding a gun in her bag and that's why she's a threat 💀) and a feel sorry for her bc I honestly think she got brainwashed
@maebu
@maebu Год назад
mikotos character is prbably the worst of the worst i cant beieve this
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