PRESSURE TEST for your Breville Barista Express BES870 or Dual Boiler or Infusion. 

You got it right there

Glad to hear that and thanks for your message

That's the right thing to do

I added my coffee, and it works very well, and it taste really good

I don't know about that issue, but if you have low pressure on BBE then fix is here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ifI4AajrDOQ.html

Thanks for the feedback and so glad to hear that 😊

You should get around 10 'o clock pressure with pressurized basket, without disk on Double shot. Try 5 times and see if the pressure drops.

@@AjusCafe it does! Thanks!!

@@resalith great you are good then. Low pressure is mainly due to stale beans or store bought beans. Try to get freshly Roasted beans from a local roaster and see the magic.

Glad to hear that

Thank you

That numbers vary according to the beans you use. Usually for this machine, most of the beans extract well when its at 1 o clock pressure range. If you want to stop the extraction at 20 seconds just press again any extraction button. So you can manually stop.

5 bar means the pressure Guage is below the grey mark? I'd suggest Descale your machine few times and try again

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No... you did the right thing by using single walled. You are supposed to use single walled. The issue to be corrected is - buy freshly Roasted beans (with Roasted date less than a week old). Then use single walled basket. The double walled is for preground coffee only. It won't bring all the espresso flavors out.

That all you get with dual wall basket. If u need to see MAXIMUM Pressure, use your cleaning disk with it. Make sure u have the disk without a hole in the middle

Hi i use the cleaning disk still 11 oclock pressure :(

Same problem here😢

Is the pump working? Your pipes might be clogged then. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uX7UcQIO4HU.htmlsi=0M3wRPu-8VGzAdwI

New machines are set at 9 bar pressure. So its normal what you get.

Does your cleaning disk have a hole? Also is your machine like brand new bought less than a year?

@@AjusCafe no hole in cleaning disk and machine is 3 years old.

Have you opened the GroupHead shower screen to clean? After removing the screen, press double cup button and see how much ounce water you get?

Yes. Both cycles are similar. But you don't want to waste cleaning tablets just to check pressure right?

Pump generats pressure

Did u press double cup button? Does your cleaning disk have a hole? Did you tighten your portafilter all the way to the right?

Already did all that.

@@harveyfarrell4095 then it sounds like your pump is weak or faulty. Call Breville support for a replacement

Hi did you fix your machine? did you get full pressure?

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Welcome

Welcome

A week would be good to rest. I sometimes use it from day 4

@@AjusCafe Thanks I ran some after 4 days - very good, going to roast a few batches tomorrow.

Your machine seems good and there is hole is backflush disk in 1st generation machines. All good there. Your Pressurized basket need some clean. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oNEgUli_DwA.html And ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DaWr5lJZpEM.html

Glad to hear that

You are welcome

Thank you

You are welcome

Does your cleaning disk have a hole in the middle?

Phew.. that's bad. I never had any issues thankfully. Doesn't really matter if its Breville or Delonghi. If it's makes tasty espresso that matters 🙂

Thank you

Thank you so much

During preinfusion, there will be no pressure or very less pressure shown. But if it makes sound then I suspect Solenoid. See this video to find if it sounds similar ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LosOY6NjiFM.htmlsi=W0KX_yuB4XNwo1z5

It used to always show pressure in the pre infusion area of the gauge. Now the needle doesn’t move until extraction and it goes into the extraction area of the gauge as expected . If it is solenoid would the extraction process be working normally? Thank you.

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I heard the new Breville's pressure is adjusted to 9 - 10bar. Rather than 14 bar. So you are good. Also does your cleaning disk have a hole?

Thank you for answering my question!! My disc does not have a hole! I have performed the test several times and every time it goes up to 10 bars !!

​@@attilamolnar1646thanks for the reply. So yes if you get 10 bar pressure in a new machine, you are good. When you make espresso, are you getting in range of 9 bar atleast? Just to let you know 9 bar is the most acceptable espresso extraction

Yes I get 9 bar wen I make the expreso!! Thanks for answering my question!!!

Thanks

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That means your grind size is too fine. So its choking the hot water flow. To fix, grind it coarser (2 or 3 steps higher grind size number) and try again. Are u using pressurized basket?

⁠@@AjusCafei see, I didn’t think of that before! Thank you so much Aju, I will try to grind more coarse. It happened right after changing beans. Really appreciate your view.

@@AjusCafeoh yes, I’m using the dual wall basket as usual.

Hi there. Thank you for this. I get pressure with the dual wall basket but no pressure with the single wall. Why would that be?

When you do this, do you see any water dripping from the Portafilter?

@@AjusCafe no dripping of water sir

I’ve just done the same test no dripping water and my machine also only reaches 11 o’clock pressure. I’ve tried both test and multiple different coffee beans, grind sizes, tamping etc and my machine won’t go higher than 11 o’clock. I am in the process of sending it back to be fixed or replaced as it is likely to be faulty :(

@@samantha.mackenzie Are you both using Breville Barista Express OR the new Breville Impress?

@@AjusCafe I have the Breville Barista Express

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Every time you buy new beans you need to dial in. Assuming you are using Non-pressurized basket? Make sure the holes are not block. Change your grind size to more coarser and see. Normally it starts with Pre-Infusion in low pressure and then full extraction in 9 bar pressure. So that jump is normal.

What is the grind size you use?

Make sure you place it straight down in the basket. Was there any water dripping during test? Try single size basket pressurized. Secondly physically observe the silicon gasket on the ground head. If its worn out or cracked, Pressure can leak

@@AjusCafe i used single basket too. No difference at all and i check the washer no tear and leakge found. Is it possible that problem comes from pump?

@@hassanmoneminoodehi973 does the pump sound different? I would change the pump as last option. When did you last descale your machine? Amd were you doing descale regularly? If not, I'd strongly suggest you to do another 1 or 2 descale cycle and test again.

Thank you so much for your life saving video. Really appreciate it!

How was the taste? Bitter or Sour? Did you warmup the machine, portafilter, basket etc before the 1st shot?

Thanks

Always use Non-pressurized basket

I noticed the same thing on my new machine we bought 4 days ago. I called customer service and they mentioned that is the expected pressure for the newer machines. They didn't explain why.

Does your rubber disk has a hole in the middle? Then its normal.

Some machines comes with rubber disk with a hole. Then you get low pressure

@@AjusCafe no hole on the disk. It looks like the newer machines have the pressue reduced from factory. They realized people were doing the OTP mod to redução pressure and getting good results

How much pressure do you get? Atleast half-way?

@@AjusCafe thanks for your reply! not even near the gray area! The maximum I saw it lift was a few lines up only. This trying the pressure basket.

​@@fannyhenao9861Descale the machine few times and try again. When you use Pressurized Basket, did you use with cleaning disk in it? (Silicon disk). If not insert that as shown in the video and let me know.

The pressure Guage shows how many bars pressure. If its in grey zone, its around 9 bar pressure.

Welcome

Yes it's definitely the beans. Get some locally Roasted beans with Roasted date on it.

Thank you

That can be controlled by grinding it Coarser and less Tamping pressure.

Thank you! Machine was working perfectly I wonder if bean quality is also an issue.

@@vr4966 bean can affect. But usually you get low pressure on stale beans. On the other hand some beans grind very fine and that can generate high pressure

What are your thoughts on over flow hose can that need cleaning?

@@vr4966 when you do the CLEAN cycle (backflush), it will take care of that

I don't have Impress, and I'm not too sure if they've adjusted the pressure to get 9 bar compared to 15 bar pressure on Barista Express. I also came across with another Imoress user saying the same thing like u, after he did the pressure test. So I think there is nothing wrong with your machine. But if u got it replaced, can u do the same test and confirm if you get 9 or 15 bar pressure with blank disk?

​@@AjusCafe I have the exact same problem. The first Breville Barista Express BES870 unit from Amazon I had was only getting to about 11 o'clock during the pressure test using the cleaning disc method (w/ no hole). So I called Amazon up and got a new replacement unit sent out. The second replacement unit has arrived and I've ran the pressure test using the cleaning disc method (w/ no hole) again and the pressure gauge reading is marginally better with the gauge reaching to 12 o'clock. This is a reading which is within the 'ideal range' yet with no water coming out, this leads me to believe the pressure/pressure gauge is faulty on this unit as well. The pressure guage doesn't get close to the max pressure you demostrated in this demo. I wonder if this is a common problem across these models.

@@AjusCafe I think the other user you are talking about is also me. I commented on the user iiitttaaalllyyy2424 in the lines below. I haven't been able to get in touch with costumer support at sage yet, but I've been watching official barista videos and I think this is the maximum pressure this machine can reach. If 9 bars is a bad thing or a good thing, I still don't know because I'm a beginner in espresso. I think only you can tell me if it is good or bad. I had an automatic coffee machine in the past. Even the new editions of the barista express models, from what I saw on the official website, were changed from 15 to 9 bars. I'm talking about the model you make videos for. So the colleague who wrote below may not have any problem with the pressure on the express model. I think that the producer should publicly clarify this problem through a video and thus avoid returns. Why don't they make a video about changing the pressure and what pressure these newer models can reach? If you can do a video with this model and the max pressure can get this machine I ll be glad to wach it.

@@geany5900 To answer your question, espresso pressure should be between 7-11 bar ideally. Some machines like BBE has 15 bar pressure. Is 9 bar good or bad? My answer is 9 bar is good and that's the number for rich, think, concentrated espresso shot and it will greatly reduce spurs related to channeling. So I will wait for you or other user to confirm this after they get a reply from Breville about Impress. Thank you.

Hey geandanborali7290, thank you all for your input and replies, and a special thanks to Aju's Cafe for making this video and replying so promptly on a 7-month-old video (you're a credit to the entire coffee community and we appreciate it). Now on to business...I've just gotten off the phone with Breville customer support and they have assured me that all the newer models are physically limited to 9-bars of pressure max. This means the Pressure gauge during the pressure test will only show a reading of about 11:30 (i.e just before the needle points fully vertical). As I mentioned in my earlier reply that I've had 2 of these new models and both read virtually the exact same (give or take a 1mm or 2mm). I did mention to them that they really should have made it clear in the manual or maybe even installed a new pressure gauge itself since using the old style one is very misleading and considering they haven't updated their youtube pressure test videos to explain this or demonstrate the new models newer pressure reading; how is anyone supposed to know. The support agent helping me mentioned to me they are constantly receiving calls daily for this very reason. 1st Side Note: I purchased mine from Amazon and when I was under the impression that the first machine I received was faulty they sent me out a new machine which arrived 14 hours later (I placed a call to Amazon customer support at 7 pm and the new machine showed up at 9 am the next day) absolutely incredible customer service and zero wait time on the phone. 2nd Side Note: Breville did explain that these newer models' lower 9-bar pressure limit is really the ideal pressure for coffee but also the wear on the coffee machine is considerably less and kinder to the machine's internal parts itself, especially since newcomers who tend to constantly over pressuring there machine. They still use the same 15-bar pressure pump but are limited to 9-bars. 3rd Side Note: I'm using the BBE (Breville Barista Express BES870) but these new bar pressure changes have been rolled out across other models they make as well (e.g the Impress). So there we have folks, I hope this helps everyone who has been concerned their machine is faulty/not working correctly.

Grind your beans coarser if your pressure is high. You need to dial in to get the correct extraction. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XoRRjoI8Ck8.html

If your machine is new and if the Pressure test failed, then there os something wrong. What Pressure do you get when you use the cleaning silicone disk with pressurized single cup basket? More than 9 o clock?

Same problem with my machine. I tried with the dual wall double cup and the presure going a bit more 10 position. And with the cleaning disc not going up to 12 even less. I have tried serveral times but the pressure is not going more then 12 even less. What can I do. Is it possible to have a issue with the machine? And the machine is new. Bought few days ago. Thank you!

@@geany5900 One question.. When did you last descale your machine. Clean cycle is different from Descale cycle. If not then I'd suggest you to do 2 or 3 cycles of Descale cycle and test again.

Yeah but the machine is new. I bouth two days ago. Stll need to descale if the machine is new?

@@geany5900 Not in that case. Is it Breville Barista Express? You should contact Breville support and they should replace this with a new machine

You mean 8 bar when you use a blind disk? Does the disk have a hole in the middle?

What happens?

Does it make good coffee? Do you hear the pump working well and flow is restricted when making espresso? If yes then the pressure gauge needs replacement.

@@AjusCafe no flow whatsoever, no coffee, no pressure on the gauge. Did descale before it told me to see if works. I'm using the fine ground + double wall, and I'm getting nothing back.

@@joekim4345 if there is no flow then pump failed. It will need to be replaced. Contact Breville service.

Hang on... if its new machine, the pressure is restricted to 9 bar pressure. If there is hole in your silicon disk then it shows less pressure too. Pls confirm if there is hole in the disk and how much pressure do you get

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