In respects of marrying all her daughters away, I have to defend Mrs Bennet. It was hinted in the movie but Mr Bennet really messed up. He hoped for a male heir and didn't take any measures to provide money/save money for his daughters in case there wasn't a male heir. So in order to not end up on the streets after Mr Bennet dies and Mr Collins gets their house, the daughters really need to get married well. And they all don't really have anything to recommend them. Their father didn't even get them an education, the have no society training, nothing.
I should have read your comment because I just left a comment saying the same thing so mine was kind of repetitive. But I just found a story so fascinating because of the fact that he was really neglectful and he had one line to Elizabeth remember at the end after Lydia comes back where he becomes self-aware. He tells Elizabeth basically that he knows he has been a bad father but to be honest he doesn't think he's going to really get any better and he's just probably going to continue being a bad one. It was funny and at the same time kind of messed up but real because we're as human beings were still like that.
@@firebrandsgirl Exactly. His character brings a lot of wit to the story (more so in the book) but mostly it is to the expense of others. It's well done. You laugh about a joke of his, but when you think about it, you think: wait a damn minute...
@@Marielusi yeah pretty much everyone if it's jokes. He was being a jerk. I'm almost half a century and Mr. Bennett reminds me of people that I knew and know. And I look back on it, I was a Mr Bennett. Just not to children though. Mr Bennett came down on Mary one time and I know the big point is supposed to be the Mary wasn't a smart as she pretended to be. But you know Mary was a 16-year-old girl and playing surrounded by four pretty sisters. She was just trying to be good at something. And it turned out her dad didn't even think she was smart. And Kitty was only silly because she was second best to Lydia. Woah after all these years I'm still finding something interesting about that book.
@@firebrandsgirlYes, Mr Bennet calls all his girls silly, but I always understood Mary as somebody who isn't pretty but driven and smart. But she is lost. Because nobody tells her what to read, what to learn. Nobody probably told her that she is good the way she is. So she sees her pretty sisters and is terrified that she has nothing to recommend her to a suiter. So she tries to gives herself an education. But without guidance it turns out to be only a collection of threadbare phrases. And because she isn't regulated, her tries to seem accomplished make her look pretentious and pushy. And it is hinted that she would have taken Mr Collins if he had asked her but Austen states that the difference between him an her is that he is a small, simple man whose education was lost on him and she is actually intelligent but never got an education.
@@Marielusi Yes, I used to feel bad for Mary. I related to her when I was young. You like the smart guy, but he doesn't seem to know that you exist and all of who you are hinges on that "relationship. " But now, as an older woman, I understand how it would have been horrible for her. I liked Mr. Collins and I think he worked well with Charlotte. She knew how to guide him. How to talk to him. But, I feel that his indifference to Mary would have to broken her spirit.
It's so understated, but in that scene at the church, where Fitzwilliam is telling Lizzie how Darcy broke Jane and Bingley up, he was trying to be a wingman for Darcy 😭He was telling Lizzie was a loyal friend he is😭He knew his cousin wanted to marry her and he was trying to talk him up 😭Can you imagine how embarrassed he was later when Darcy told him how it went??? I never see any reaction talk about what happened there!
13:23 at that time it was considered bad manners to introduce yourself to someone, you had to be introduced beforehand by someone who knew you both, and at events you could either ask the host to introduce you or fetch the master of ceremonies to make the introduction on your behalf if it was a public event, like in Bath's assembly rooms for example.
Also...I kind of have to defend Mr. Collins. He's really IS trying to do the Bennets a favor. If he's married to a Bennet sister, than he and his wife would be in the position to take care of the others. He's not particularly interested in romance (yet). In another story, he'd be the hero. Or at least not the villain.
@@susanstein6604 He absolutely is, and Lizzie was right to turn him down, but also, I feel like people don't recognize how generous he was trying to be. He's a pandering little brown noser, but I think he gets hated on for the wrong reasons, is all.
I beg to differ....Collins is the worst kind of self-interested opportunist and total bougie with unearned entitlement....which might be forgivable but his authoritarian judgement over others less fortunate disqualifies him from the pulpit or any other position to judge over others (see his cruel advice on Lydia). His total lack of awareness of his false modesty, sycophancy & bad manners aimed at those in power is exactly like a comic book villain.
I agree, he's ridiculous, and has a ton of flaws like his impertinence and lack of awareness of his self-aggrandising. But he has some redeemable qualities. That's what makes Austin so great, her characters actually feel like people with motives and she satirises the element of ridiculous which most people in society unfortunately fall into to some degree or other, but you can relate to even the slightly unlikable ones. While I like the movie I think the 1995 series, by nature of its length, shows more of the bad side of Mr Collins that we don't see in the 2007 movie, especially his false modesty and brown nosing.
@@G1NZOU I agree...except "he has some redeemable qualities." All badly executed flummery for personal gain and position. If he had any kind of integrity he would have chosen Mary as a partner...obvious like personalities, but Charlotte is more willing to play a role to help him in his advancement so they clap a deal. His "christian" advice to Mr Bennet on how to deal with Lydia is monstrous and foreshadows how he will pontificate over his clergy in cruel judgement. Comically evil character by Austen but cliche for her time I suspect.
I love that his running joke was the hand flex! He was a great sport! Sometimes his facial expression was saying "What in the world am I watching?" And "I'm so confused." That's why I was delighted with the rating he gave it. My hubby would never sit down and watch this with me!
At dinner couples don't sit together because the guests are supposed to make conversation with their neighbours and it would be considered rude if they were having a private conversation, It's to make everyone mix.
The Bennets are not a "blue-collar" family. Mr. Bennet is a moderately wealthy landowner and the Bennets are part of the landed gentry, making them upper-class. Only Mrs. Bennet came from a middle-class background. Her father was a lawyer. Charles Bingley is also middle-class, since his wealth came from trade. This is how class was in Britain before World War 1.
About 'The hand thing": back then, touching other people, specially someone of the opposite sex, was tabu. There were a time and a place for it. Such as dancing. That was the first time Darcy touched her and he was SHOOK!! hahaha He also couldn't wait to jump in and help her. The whole scene just shows how much of a gentleman he is and how much he cared about her already.
Jane Austen is the best. The hand scene is not in her book although it’s a lovely romantic touch. The Bennett’s are landed gentry so of the same class as Darcy and technically of an even higher class than Bingly till he buys his own estate - but the girls and Mrs Bennett can’t inherit the Bennett’s estate which is entailed because of laws at the time. The book and all of Jane Austen is so worth reading! 💖 I appreciate that none her villains or characters suffer or are punished for long. She never dwells in misery. It’s a window into another time which is always fun.
I think the scene where Elizabeth sees Darcy and his sister hug is uncomfortable bc at that time she doesn’t know it’s his sister. She thinks he’s seeing the girl romantically and she’s walked in on them hugging. It’s only later on talking to her aunt and uncle that she realizes it was only his sister.
I don't think so because she already knew he has a young sister (Caroline Bingley mentionned her in the letter to Jane and him in the one about Wickam). For me, it's the fact he's here who made her uncomfortable (Mrs Reynolds said he was in London)
@a.g.demada5263 if you watch the scene shortly after of Elizabeth with her aunt and uncle at the “restaurant “ (not sure what they called it then lol) it’s explained to Elizabeth and family that Darcy wants them to meet his sister, and Elizabeth says to herself “his sister?!” She’s finally come to the realization that it was just his sister and not someone he’s seeing. Check it out and let me know what you think.
@@anitasmith7764 that's what I thought when I first saw the movie but now, I'm sure it's the fact she saw Mr Darcy who wasn't suppose to be here who made her unconfortable after his love declaration
@@a.g.demada5263 if it was just about Darcy being there, why would she say “his sister!” Ya know what I mean? I’m sure you’re right about her being surprised by him being there. No doubt, but when someone approached them at the restaurant, they mentioned that Darcy wants them to meet his sister, and Elizabeth said “his sister!” As if she had a revelation as to who the woman was. Ya know? Have you rewatched it recently? Check out the restaurant scene soon after their unexpected meeting at Darcy’s home. If you listen to her (or put on closed captions maybe) and you’ll see what I mean.
I mean, she knew he had a sister. The reason it's super uncomfortable is that she strayed out of the public areas of the house (ie the picture and statue gallery and ballroom etc) into the private family rooms. Plus the last time she saw him was the whole proposal/letter part. She has been told how she was prejudiced and hasn't really apologised and then she's not only in his house, but he's there, and she's where she isn't supposed to be. In the book it's only the "the last time was a failed proposal" awkwardness, but that's still super uncomfortable.
The "hand thing" is because you weren't allowed skin on skin contact with male acquaintances only close family or your husband, if you look all the others are wearing gloves & at the balls they also wear gloves. Also when Mr Collins went to speak to Darcy at the ball that was considered rude as you weren't allowed to speak to people unless you were first introduced by someone else who knew them 😮 so many rules 😂
This version is the best for s*xual tension, the BBC version is the most accurate to the book, and the 1940s version is the best fanfic. It was very inaccurate but still adorable and I loved the changes they made to Lady Catherine's character. And an honorable mention to Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, and Lost in Austen. Please watch them!
I honestly HATED lost in Austen until the last episode. It was probably because I hated the main character at first because she gave me major second hand embarrassment.
@@nayellievans8012 I enjoyed it because that's 100% how I would be if I was suddenly in Lizzie's place. Half disbelief, half freaking out that the story is being ruined by my presence.
This soundtrack in Hawaii??? GENIUS. I sneak songs from it onto my Spotify playlists ALL the time.. This is definitely one of my top 5 films of all time, and my second favorite novel of all time (second only to Austen's "Persuasion"). I hate that people who are not Austen fans pretty much skipped this, but seeing people genuinely enjoy it is something I LOVE. Most people I try to show it to end up falling asleep or just not understanding anything and the whole thing is ruined by me having to explain the contextual history and why a lot of it is actually so intelligent and witty and down right scaracastic. Gah! I just love this adaptation. If you know nothing of Jane Austen or P&P... THIS is the movie to watch.
The hand thing is important. Remember in Sleepless in Seattle he says he knew his wife was the one the first time he took her hand. He knew. Enjoyed your reaction. After this, of course, the next watch is Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.
Can I just say... Alex's understated expressions, Jamie's over the top reavtion, and Grace's quiet excitement made the best combo. Just a quick little tip or two: There is an 8 hour mini-series which is more faithful to the book. Not saying this is a bad version. But a movie is only so long and necessarily has to cut things out. If you are looking for more like this, Jane Austin wrote other beloved stories. There's Emma, Northanger Abbey, Sense and Sensibility, and Mansfield Park. They are all pretty good. Another I put in a similar catagory is Jane Eyre. It was written by Charlotte Bronte and I'd call it a gothic romance. Jane Austin has a curious take on people and writes her characters very well. I fell in love with Pride and Prejudice whrn I was 14. I was introduced to the mini-series and immediately had to read the book. While I understand the appeal of Mr. Darcy, he's not my favorite of the heroes in the titles I have listed above.
The "hand thing" is left for the viewer to interpret- but I think he's totally mesmerized by Lizzy and he can't handle his own feelings for her. She is not born high nobility like himself, so he's having a hard time accepting that he's drawn to her regardless.
Also, skin on skin contact between men and women was considered very septic because it almost never occurred. Women wore gloves most of the time. So the spark of physical contact, which a LOT of women have as their love language.
I get your driving through Hawaii listening to this. When I was a kid I was traveling through Colorado and my grandma was playing the score to Les Mis and it was PERFECT for the drive. You’d turn to pass one mountain and the music crescendos and you get this whole new majestic view!
Such a great reaction! You three were fun to watch this with. Enjoyed how Grace and Jamie gave Alex a hard time, but he took it well and went with it, and embraced it anyway. As a guy, this is one of my most favorite films of all time, seen it many times, and yes, the soundtrack is singularly great, and yes, I listen to it on occasion as well. Loved watching Grace anticipate and then react to all the great parts and lines right along with me, and also watching the two newcomers react for the first time to all the emotional and story twists and turns, while trying to figure it all out (and Grace watching them as well, and not trying to give anything away about how things work out). It's just nice seeing folks like yourselves who allow yourselves to engage with a film with both your heart and your head, and especially when it is such a film as this which is such a wonderful choice since it does so well at drawing you in. Will look forward to more reactions with you all!
The Bennets are actually pretty well off. Well, as long as Mr. Bennet is alive. Lizzie and Darcy are in the same social class, and the Bingleys are slightly below the Bennets socially because their money came from trade and they don't own land (yet). It's like Cinderella, a riches to rags story of a prince marrying a girl who is in the appropriate social class, but has no money herself.
The hand thing is, people did not have physical contact in society. Physical contact would be scandalous to your reputation. Your reputation & your family’s. That’s why Lydia running off with Wickham was a REALLY BIG DEAL. Property didn’t pass down to women. Instead, if there was no son to inherit it would pass to the next living male relative. Women had no say & the best way to help your family would be to marry up. Jane marrying Bingley would’ve placed the other 4 daughter’s meeting upper class men. When Mrs Bennett tells Lizzie about having 5 daughter’s with NO chance of providing a dowry for each it IS a problem to HER. The 2nd hand scene where he doesn’t take her hand it’s significant bcuz he laid bare his soul & she rejected him, bcuz she didn’t know the whole truth. Now, visiting HIS home, she sees WHAT he was offering & how much of an embarrassment he would endure for her. Now, it’s too late…… Grace, you’re NOT alone in subjecting your friend’s to watching this. My friend of 40 years & I each picked a movie at Blockbuster. I chose this, she chose The Dark Knight. This was fun, thanx
Only costuming complaint is Kiera wearing her hair down. Only girls who were not "out" wore their hair down in public. The walk to Netherfield was different but in general it didn't happen. The ponytail with ribbon was the thing.
OH COOOOOL. Didn't you discuss in the Pirates of the Caribbean reaction that you hadn't watched P&P? I love remembering those details EDIT: HEY FIRST COMMENT :)
This was such a fun reaction, I loved to have someone loving the movie from before to compare everyone's reactions to the most iconic parts 😂 And I also cry almost every time with the scene of Mr. Bennet giving his blessing to the marriage. They have such a nice father-daughter relationship! I specially love that both Lizzy and Mr. Bennet do the same gesture of covering their mouth when they are overwhelmed by emotion, such a good piece of acting from both.
Yes, Jane also does the same gesture after saying yes to Mr Bingley right as her family enters the room, I believe it happens once or twice earlier in the film and it is obviously meant as a family trait. I'd would love to know if it was something the actors worked out, was it in the script or Joe Wright's direction.
Don’t be too hard on the mother. Because they have no son, when the father dies they get nothing. Everything goes to Collins. So she needs to marry them off.
@reactionsquad / Perfect movie for the three of you for Veterans/Remembrance or Memorial Day…”Taking Chance” starring Kevin Bacon…it’s only about 90 minutes long and it’s an incredible film.
You should read Pride and Prejudice... it's an easy read. All Jane Austen is easily accessible. People tend to think classic books are hard work, they usually aren't. Well... maybe Moby Dick is tough... :)
Jamey, the aunt of Darcy owns a huge property and title and has “a living” for a clergyman. She chose the clergyman for that lifelong job. She is his benefactor. Everything he will ever have comes from her. And he loves the status. Omg the proposal in the rain. Whose idea was that??😩 PLEASE watch the other versions!
You guys should definitely watch Emma (2020) next it’s a must, i know you guys will enjoy it a lot. I personally like Emma more than Pride and Prejudice and that’s saying a lot considering how much i already love P&P.
I love this movie and Mr Darcy. I've watched it many times. I have one question if anyone knows the answer. I know the girls must marry well because they will be broke when their father dies, because women weren't allowed to own property. WHY is Miss Catherine allowed to keep her property and money without a husband or son??? She is a woman too, so why does she get to keep it all????
I can help a little here! It was not a matter of women not being able to inherit at all, there were many heiresses (see, Emma from another Jane Austen's novel as an example), but that some properties had certain requirements for who could inherit them. So evidently someone in the past of the Bennet's family decided that their property could only be inherited by a man, so that's why it falls to Mr. Collins as the closest male relative. Lady Catherine's property didn't have such restrictions so that's why she was able to own it. Ellie Dashwood's channel has a far better explanation of this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SPFeB2bOO-0.html And I would also recommend "Is the family Bennet poor?" from her to understand a little bit more of the family's situation. Well, Ellie's whole channel is fantastic, but those videos particularly helped me a lot to understand Pride and Prejudice much more. Sorry for the long comment!
@@florgi121 Yeah this. And even with an estate that's entailed to a male heir you can still take the profits from that estate and save them up for a rainy day and dowries (well, not if you only own the estate for a short time or you get an estate that is already in debt). It's just that Mr Bennet did not save enough money for his daughters or his estate doesn't make enough profit for him to save enough. In the book it's mentioned it's mostly the first.
Requests: Donald Sutherland and Jane Fonda in “Klute.” A thriller from the 70s. I served Donald Sutherland in a cafe in 1980 and he was drunk, arrogant and obnoxious. Cannot stand him. But he was great in Klute. Brenda Blethyn is my favorite actress. This part is horrible for her. She shines in Saving Grace with Craig Ferguson. And in Little Voice with Michael Caine. Her best performances and very funny movies.
I love this movie and any period movies are automatically my favorites. Could you all react to other movies covering Jane Austen novels? I enjoyed Emma 2022 or even the PBS Masterpiece Classic of Persuasion 2007. Jane Eyre is also a favourite of mine either the 2007 or the 2011 version.
We can continue the movie seeing only the face of the girl with the cap. She speaks with her eyes.The other girl is a little more passionate it seems, that's good in a woman... and in everyone. Sorry kid, I'm sure you do it well, but my weakness is girls.🙃
I would like to see a reaction to your cooking but I’m a vegetarian and I don’t want cute little squirrel-eating to become a thing. I’m sure you prefer fresh meat, so a no on that from me, but anything else is fine, even fish, eggs, cheese.
I haven’t been here since Jamie’s tortilla blanket! I never watch this P&P. My favorite is the Colin Firth version. There’s another version I love too. In the 80s or 90s. I have read the book and listen to the audiobook on RU-vid! The stringy hair in this movie would have never happened. Hours were spent on hairdressing at home. They would have slept in careful pincurls. No one would have been caught dead with stringy flat hair!!!😫😫😫