One thing not touched on your review: this uses mini-ACOG mount footprint. So QD do exist. This looks like it would go GREAT on a PS90 with TROS acog mount. Way better than MRO and its parallax shift.
Fantastic review: so much better than the typical video that spends 15 minutes looking at a disembodied set of hands holding the product and the box. This video is exactly what we actually want to see: the rest we can get from the spec sheets / mfr docs.
Exactly. When doing optics research I always check C_does first to see if he’s reviewed it. His reviews are basically an easy button. The next best thing to holding it your own hands.
2nd best sorry DOE watch everyone of yours. Great guy as well. Best for truly showing with camera. Mike with Gideon with technicals. Nuff said. And I only watch 6 guys . Still luv ya DOE, as said best overall, edge to mike
This is the exact optic I got, from the last batch they had in stock. Having astigmatism, the issues discussed with red dots has been my exact experience. You're right, all issues of bloom and starbursting are gone. I'm very happy, and kind of wish I had gotten the 3x option, but that'll be the next purchase.
Fixed my astigmatism without a Dr appointment lol. Strange it seems the target is slightly smaller when looking in the prism then the actual object. I shoot both eyes open so its a little distracting to me at least. My Vortex 1x prism is a great alternative to this too.
As far as eye relief goes: I can hold this thing out at full arms length like a pistol and still manage to see the reticle and target. It's not as easy as a red dot at that length, but it's possible. I think that's just incredible.
Reviews for this optic always mention that but is no indication of eye relief. It's basically a scope, the further away it is, the worse the eyebox. If you are not perfectly indexed on the optic then you are just going to see black which is absolutely terrible for a reflex sight shooting around obstacles.
@@jurpo6 This has the best eye box at distance from optic of any etched reticle I own. It's significantly better than both of my LPVOs at 1x (p4xi and Bushnell SMRS II pro). It's also miles better than the original PA cyclops and the TA44. I'm not saying it's a better optic than a Steiner, high end Bushnell or Trijicon, but it's certainly better at mimicking the most desirable characteristics of a non magnified optic than all of them. You should really check one out.
Primary Arms knocked this one out of the park! If I was in the market for an ACOG like optic, this would fit the bill! Good bang for your buck! Affordable, good clarity, lightweight, bright enough, good for ppl with astigmatism, diopter adjuster. Love PA
I have the 1x microprism with green reticle and it is amazing! Best part about it is if the battery dies or you get wash out from snow glare or your white light, you just shut it off and the etched reticle is perfect. Fun to shoot semi auto 12 gauge with the outer ring too @25 yards and then be able to dial it in for slugs
I've never seen your videos before but you earned a subscription. You had excellent demonstrations of the capabilities of the review item in the conditions people are interested in: super bright and dark. You demonstrated distortion and clarity. Fantastic. You could do a better job demonstrating the sight in action by shooting. I really had to try to find something you didn't do in the video. You answered every question I had and gave all the relevant information. I hope your channel expands rapidly.
I have the red One for about 8-9months now and it is brighter than the green. I live in the Houston area so I’m able to go by primary arms and look through their optics before I buy. And yes they’re microprism and there 2x gold line Are both really really great optics and I really like both
Fixed my Astigmatism without a Dr visit...priceless! I have the Vortes 1x Prism and its amazing especially for offering green and red options in 1 pkg. Glass is amazing, I had to get 2 for my home defense setups.
Great review! This optic is beautiful. Thank you C_Does for what you do. The reviews you do are not being praised enough. You are a treasure to the pew pew community and we appreciate the time and effort that you put into all these videos. Thank you.
great video as always, nowadays if I see you post, or SuperSetCA, i'm immediately in to watch it. Different styles/production ;) but I think you're providing solid value/review and discussion. Keep it up
@lessforloans the 1x with the 3x if need for distance flip down by pa, second to none. Race ready and fast , about zero muscle memory needed. Halosights are great and better. 1 major the 2 legged animals can see you and your melon leaves, it's a fact. Happy hunting
I have this same setup with their Prizm 3X magnifier on my ECP 9mm and absolutely love it you are right Primary Arms knocked it out of the park, talk about making your gun light and quick pointing WOW! And it's just cool looking on top of being great!
This is my favorite 1x optic. I've got 4 of them. I replaced all but one of my red dots with them. Just waiting for my 3x to show up in June. Nice review.
Concerning the reticle: there are products on the market designed to thread into the objective lens end that should reduce or remove target's ability to see your illuminated reticle at distance. As far as the reticle design goes: I'm only minority disappointed that this reticle doesn't have subtensions like the holosun ACSS red dot does for shots out to 600 yards assuming you're using 5.56. That being said I can see why they might have forgone this on 1x (it can get cluttered) and despite the lack of the subtensions you can still use the bottom edges of the Chevron and ring for holdovers past 400 yards (with 5.56 according to Strelok). Windage would have been nice like on the 3x micro prism, but oh well. I only mention these holdovers since this optic can be used with a magnifier.
I've also had issues with the reticle not turning on when it should due to the battery compartment. Grabbing a coin, flat head, etc and cranking down on it solves the problem.
I've been Vortex 1x prisim user since beginning. Gave this prisim a go & I'm hooked. Some give it hard time due to lack of 0.5 MOA adjustment , I have no problem with it thanks to its very sharp chevron reticle which improves accuracy. 1" group @ 100 yards is ok with me.
You have the best review of this sight. The part I like most is you put your camera on user's eye perspective. I was looking to see the limitation of the eye relief since the spec doesn't say unlimited like red dot. But now I know that I don't have to worry about it. You did a really good review! Thank you.
Thank you. Awesome and much needed surprise at the end. I have both the 512 and and the AEMS in hand and wasn't happy with the block looks of them on my ar9. Curves and functionality are married with this SLX. Thanks again.
I noticed with some red dots or with the illumination on, sometimes the reticle is flushed out, maybe it's just the camera and maybe not. But when you turn the illumination off, with a light you still see the reticle. That's fantastic. Also, fantastic detail in the video.
@@CDOES it’s not immensely better than the ACOG but certainly better. Glass is pretty decent. Not ACOG quality but closer to it than it is to the old style PA 3X prism.
Been waiting on this video. I bought two (already have two original cyclops) and I was blown away by the improvements. I'm not sure how they pulled this off with the eye box, eye relief and this clarity of Chinese glass at this price point. I'm using it with an ADM B5 mount on a 13.7 KP15 build right now and it is a ridiculously handy rifle.
Just bought my first red dot the other day. A budget one from Sig, the Romeo 5. Got the battery in it and put it up to my eye to discover that apparently I have the beginning of astigmatism. Even the lowest setting has a bit of a star effect. SO. I've had this 1x prism in mind for several years, looks like it is next on the optics list. Glad I saw one of your reviews on the subject, such a review helped me decide on the Sig Tango MSR 1-6x as well.
If you like the 1x, you may very much enjoy the 3x as well. I managed to snag a 3x, and it's a fantastic little prism. Better eye relief than a TA31 acog, better field of view than the TA33 (and 31), and weighs less than both. 9.5 oz with the high cantilever and an ADM qd mini acog mount. The adjustable diopter and daylight bright illumination makes it more usable for myself compared to an acog. My diopter wasn't super stiff. Same complaint about the illumination dial though.
I use a 3x micro prism on my hunting AR. My favorite little scope. Good to see other people know it outclasses the Acog in every aspect except for maybe clarity and durability
LOL! I was getting a little worried. Thinking we were about to get the full Monty! Great review as always. thank you for doing these. On your recommendation I bought the P/A 1-8x24 C and couldn't be happier for it. A simply great optic.
I just purchased this optic for non standard A.R. Pew Pew usage. It will be mounted on a Ruger M44 carbine. I will be testing it out on wild pigs here soon in CA then on whitetails in Kentucky this Nov.
I have two of the gen 1 Cyclops that live on shotguns. Getting 3 of the Gen 2 micro prisms with the 9 mm reticle for my PC carbines. Will probably invest in more of them since nobody else is given love to astigmatism these days
The red illuminated models are also quite good, perhaps a bit better if you're outdoors in a wooded , lush environment. I have 3 in red. Nonetheless, I would prefer green illumination. However, the only way to get that is with the black outer shell and my last 2 units have been in FDE to match the rifles they're on. I wish PA offered a service where you could send them in for an illumination color change. I have a couple Holosuns - an EPS Carry in green MRS and a 507 in Green MRS, which is how I know I'd like a green micro prism. They're a bit easier on the eyes than red. I'll probably get a green illuminated SLX 1X for an all black BRN-180 build recently completed. Good review - thanks.
Another great vid! I have 3 of these so I obviously love them for the features you point out. I will offer a few points of feedback on them. The first is the illumination knob…across all three of mine they are very hard to turn (hardest by far of any of my optics) and two of them have a condition where the detents don’t line up with the numbers. The other bit of feedback is on the reticle and aiming at hold over distances. You might think that the bottom of the reticle “horseshoe” works like a CQB sight…just put the bottom of the outer ring on the target and that’s your hold over. It does, in a way, but if you use it that way your horizontal accuracy is going to suffer because the gap in the horseshoe is so wide. You’ll hit the target but you aren’t going to hit a 3x5 card consistently under stress. I’m still experimenting with close in shooting with this and go back and forth between using the bottom of the outer ring and just using the center dot as a holdover. I think this is one area where they could improve the reticle. Other than that I love this little optic.
In my experience it is best to just hold over without using a reference point, and think in inches, since the bottom of an eotech reticle, for example, isn't always accurate except at one distance, it is just an approximation. Stare HARD at where your aim point is going to be depending on the situation. Just think "I am going to hold over 2.5 inches" or "I am going to hold over 1.5 inches", depending on your target distance, height over bore, zero etc. Obviously, this applies to any dot, not just the cyclops here
I have the red model, it works just as well IMO. I’ve wanted an Eotech 512 for the longest time, but having to choose which of the 4 reticles to use is frustrating, (Astigmatism)… Prism optics and LPVO’s are my only choices… love the Primary SLx1….
I love mine. My only complaint that you didn't cover is that by using the mini ACOG mount pattern they really limited your options. I kind of wish they went with the T2 pattern like Vortex did with their new prism sights.
This is what I’ve been waiting on Trijicon to make for years. When they started their LED ACOG models, I was sure they would make an LED 1.5x model…and now I don’t think they’ll ever get to it. I wish primary arms would come out with a $5-600 version with better glass quality. I’d upgrade in a heartbeat. With that being said, this is the optic on my MCX currently and I’m having trouble finding faults with it.
I purchased the SLx 1x based on this review. It might be a good product overall, but the reticle is far too small and I returned it. I then purchased the Spitfire AR and loved it. It has a much better reticle and comparable build quality and features at a lower price point.
If you do a review of the new Primary Arms 3x MicroMagnifier w/ the Pegasus ranging reticle, could you please do it with this optic. Curious to see how the two reticles line up or if they overlap. Trying to decide for a first setup and the two have my eye for a July 4th sale. Really enjoying your reviews, best on YT. Thank you
Sounds great, but a 2 min auto shutoff that requires a significant shake or smack to turn it back on is a definite con in my mind. If it was an hour or even 30 minutes that'd be a lot more acceptable, but 2 mins? That's pretty darn quick!
Good shit 👍🏽 I want to see content of the weapon lights in a fake scenario in a house. People just talk all day, so I really appreciate you showing us this 👍🏽💯 I have a question im new to this, so im trying to decide whats good for home defense or shit hits the fan outside with no police ! So which one do you prefer with those scenarios ? The primary arms SLx 1x MicroPrism or HoloSun 512C (Gold) ??!
Awesome review, thanks for the in-depth explanation. Which of these do you prefer between the Primary Arms, the Holosun 512 and the AEMS? I'm gonna be running a 3x magnifier behind whichever one I get
ive been looking at eotech but after looking thru a friends i think i might try one of these , shake awake sold me , i have sig romeo with shake awake but it starbursts with my eyes
As someone with an astiggy, this thing looks perfect. But because I like bitching about things, I don't like the fact that the battery door/brightness knob is the size of the entire optic 😂
Sorry for the delay Carl, you do notice it. But running it with both eyes open it isn't as noticeable to me. Especially considering I run this a little farther forward on my PCC and thus it doesn't impede the FOV thay much
Any chance of a review of the Pegasus and full size magnifiers from PA? I'd love to see more info on them, especially the full size. Their adverts don't really explain why you'd want it over the LER.
I have the 1x and just got the 3x micro prism and they're both really great. I ditched a red dot and an lpvo for them and love it. I wish you would do one on the 3x. its not going to work well in the garage though, too much magnification.
@@tuffguy6852 Same here. Serious astigmatism so I can't use illuminated red dots but I've always preferred a simple dot/magnifier type setup. Some of these reticles are way too busy for short to medium range 5.56
I just got one, mounted it, and now I’m seeing two targets with both eyes open at various ranges. Turns out it had a manufacturing defect and was actually a 1.5x magnification. Not sure if I’m going to order another or get another MRO.
@@effu9375 yes I did actually. The diopter was set properly, I’m not cross eyed dominant, and the eye relief was correct. I emailed primary arms and it is has a manufacturing defect in the lenses and has been returned.
