Prime Shadow - Hit or Miss? A Character Analysis of Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic Prime Season 3

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So! Season 3 of Sonic Prime has finally dropped on Netflix and we can finally make a judgement on Shadow the Hedgehog based on the show in its entirety! Did it get his CHARACTER right? As a long time fan of Shadow the Hedgehog, I'm always nervous AND excited in equal measure to see how he is depicted. So let's jump in and discuss in my character analysis of Shadow, the Hedgehog in Sonic Prime Season 3. With alternate universe equivalents of Tails, Knuckles the Echidna, Rouge the Bat, Amy Rose, Big the Cat and Dr Eggman, it's worryingly easy for Shadow to get lost in the crowd. Let's hope not though. And let's ALSO hope we get through a season without Sonic and Shadow fighting! So, Shadow in Sonic Prime season 3... Hit? Or miss?
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@infiniteoctopaw 8 месяцев назад

Steps on how to write a good Shadow The hedgehog: Step 1: He is cool Step 2: He cares End of list. I don't get why this is so hard. Its not rocket science.

@SonicSwift99 8 месяцев назад

Don't forget step 3: have a nice balance of being cold and calculating yet empathic. Shadow isn't an edgelord with no friends but he does have anti-hero tendencies. 06, Colors DS, and Chronicles (even though it's not canon) perfectly managed to balance these character traits and even Forces had that foundation but wasn't expanded upon (like many other things in that game).

@God-xd1wr 8 месяцев назад

This extends to Sonic too. I’m shocked I have to say this. And they literally had both of these in the show and they _still_ fumbled *both* bags.

@donathan2933 7 месяцев назад

You act is if Prime Shadow doesn’t have these traits 💀

@Sadet1991 7 месяцев назад

wait where those steps again? Was it Step 1. Make him look like Vagita? and Step 2. Make him cold? OK ;P

@sumnahlennon5449 7 месяцев назад

@@SonicSwift99Shadow is an edgelord. His character is based off the exact same traits Vegeta and Sasuke are based off of. The moment Shadow becomes good or stops attacking the protagonist, he will show more of these traits. Which he did.

@Sonicmid 8 месяцев назад

to get a good characterization of shadow, we had to get a controversial characterization of sonic. We can never have peace💀

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

I know, right!?

@devinsauls9137 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming If I had a nickel every time the writers made everyone else worse to make Shadow look good I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice

@Sonicmid 8 месяцев назад

@@devinsauls9137 in my opinion everyone else except sonic was fine

@devinsauls9137 8 месяцев назад

@@Sonicmid It still happened twice though

@mr.thumbsup8335 8 месяцев назад

My guess is it's because in order to make Shadow look more logical and calculated than Sonic, they kinda "dumbed down" Sonic to be more immature and spontaneous than usual. Basically the opposite of early IDW, where Sonic is the one making the smart decisions and Shadow does things recklessly. There definitely needs to be a balance to write both characters well while still retaining the differences between the two

@awesomeocelot7475 8 месяцев назад

It’s so weird to me how this show treats Rouge as part of Sonic’s close friend group but no shadow with them (and no omega at all)

@1999bazz 8 месяцев назад

Because him & Rouge aren't friends. They've always been described as allies. Shadow is closed off because he doesn't want friends. He's not a tsundere like Knuckles, he's cold & ruthless, & moves with purpose.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

@1999bazz If you played SA2, Heroes and 06, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.

@awesomeocelot7475 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming exactly. Shadow clearly cares about Rouge and Omega as friends. He’s just super introverted is all.

@liteyearsx 8 месяцев назад

@@1999bazz Yeah this is way off. Rouge has cared about Shadow even back in SA2. Shadow even after his controversial revival has always seen Rouge as one of the people he could always rely on, most indicated in Sonic Battle and Sonic 06. SEGA has gutted Shadow's character over the years, but those two being together has always remained consistent.

@God-xd1wr 8 месяцев назад

@@1999bazz Shadow is closed off because he spent his whole life isolated with only one friend and still holds onto that friend. Understanding Sonic, listening to Sonic’s friends and working with Rouge and Omega has helped him open up.

@imanobody7911 8 месяцев назад

SEGA making team Dark SUDDENLY not being friends aymore is by far one of their worst decisions ever. Don't know why they think making Shadow alone with no friends makes him cooler

@donathan2933 8 месяцев назад

Ima take Sonic Prime’s depiction of Shadow having “friends” with a grain of salt and just see what the games will give us

@liamphibia 8 месяцев назад

Hopefully since Ian Flynn's now the head writer of future Sonic games, he can bring the Team Dark back together again and deny Sega's statements.

@donathan2933 8 месяцев назад

@@liamphibia Ian can only do that if Sega Mandates dumbasses eases up on their restrictions

@nicholassgobero 7 месяцев назад

I like to think that it's Just Shadow who says he doesn't have friends but he Just wants to look cool and deeply cares about everyone, and everyone Else sees that

@leahkilley6581 2 месяца назад

Well, Rouge was in that blast! Rouge is one of his friends, and after all the time spent in Sonic's world (*reincarnated*), he understands how their relationships are interwoven.

@Twilord_ 8 месяцев назад

My dream scenario is that the movies will get Shadow so right that we end up with a Team Dark versus Black Doom trilogy.

@liamphibia 8 месяцев назад

Maybe Black Doom will make his debut in Shadow's Spin-off film/show.

@-KORAL_ZERO 7 месяцев назад

Black doom you say…

@Twilord_ 7 месяцев назад

@@-KORAL_ZERO Yes, I have always been a big fan. I can't wait to see how that gaslighting manipulative monster does in his grand return.

@nicholasaugello2534 8 месяцев назад

Shadow and Rouge are such good friends though damn shame they didn't get an interaction

@evergreen_kate 2 месяца назад

They only had 2 seconds of interaction and to me that’s an eternity. Wish they also included Omega. I miss that piece of metal.

@Cbev1994 8 месяцев назад

Yo that where is shadow reference was a deep cut. Chef kiss

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Glad at least one person so far enjoyed it! 😅

@Cbev1994 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming my fiancé is cackling so at least two lol

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

That. Is a win in my book!

@JumperTV33 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGamingI enjoyed it, even though I didn’t know where it was from. Now that I do, it’s 10x funnier!

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

@@JumperTV33 Considering it was a show that was a little after my time, and one I only know because of my younger brother, I legitimately have no idea how it popped into my head for that joke! 😅

@bakugirl23 8 месяцев назад

"i like to play a little game called, where where where where's sHaDoW"😂 that just got me doing the goofyass eggman laugh😂😂😂😂

@lordrugido2936 5 месяцев назад

5:50 Sega created some mandates so that the characters don't stray from their essence, however, they didn't know how to create mandates for Shadow. Ian Flynn even said that the character he least likes working on is Shadow, because Sega doesn't make it easy. And one of those mandates is "Shadow can't have friends."

@passerby1156 2 месяца назад

Shadow can't have friends??? Then what was sonic adventure 2, sonic heroes, etc with rouge and shadow being friends?? did the person who made these bizarre mandates ignore sonic canon games of shadow and rouge being friends???

@lordrugido2936 2 месяца назад

@@passerby1156 yeah

@i2lovemommmy 2 месяца назад

So you’re telling me that a shadow hater was cooking and that’s why this version of shadow is meh?

@lordrugido2936 2 месяца назад

@@i2lovemommmy Sorry, but I didn't understand what you meant by "A Shadow hater was cooking". I don't know if this is an expression, because I'm Brazilian and this expression doesn't exist here. If there is, I've never heard of it.

@i2lovemommmy 2 месяца назад

@@lordrugido2936 I means they let someone who doesn’t like a character and let them be lead designer of the character story and mannerisms to downplay them as much as possible. Sorry for the confusion

@marchedgie6838 8 месяцев назад

Hey, congrats on 10k subs man. Shadow was pretty good in this, but I did not get him not having ties to Rouge either. Or any of the other main cast for that matter. Plus, it took this really weird interpretation of Sonic in order to happen. Then we find out that this is canon and takes place after Sonic Advance 3 despite the discrepancies? It doesn't make sense at all.

@DarkReaper12 8 месяцев назад

I would love a video on Nine's descent into villainy. I found him falling into Eggman behavior an interesting commentary on the nature of Sonic, Tails and Eggman's dynamic. I generally prefer to focus on what was done right and where the series's potential lay. An analysis on how the shatterspace variants provide commentary on the characters we didn't get to explore as their original selves would also be godsent. (How else am I to get a Knuckles Prime analysis?)

@SonicSelect1991 8 месяцев назад

I’m actually making a video right now of if I brought all the characters of Prime together picking up right after the third season ends, and I’m actually trying to fix the problems I found in everyone in my own writing. I’ve already made Sonic more intelligent and Ive animated Shadow and Rouge having a good talk. Plus, I’m making Shadow smile sometimes instead of being just the cold back of the room guy who just gives off the ‘stay away from me I’m brooding’ vibe. My problem though, was more in Sonic, like you talked about. He’s just a completely different person when you take a look at literally any other media. Take the Adventure era for example. Sonic doesn’t talk for the majority of the time, and even prefers there to be silence and would throw in a smirk to show you through body language that he is the coolest guy around rather than saying it fifty times. But anyways, I always love your analysis videos! I completely agree with everything you said about Shadows’ character, and we definitely need the real ultimate life form back!

@KilosFoxo 8 месяцев назад

I think most of the issues could be sorted by having it so sonic could pull shadow into the shatterspaces

@lonelyonionagain. 8 месяцев назад

It's pretty depressing that even in a show that shadow was the best he ever was since 06. Sega still finds a way to just butcher him, he's still that distant, edgy hedgehog but the writers still found a way around that. What i hate most about shadow is just that after 06 he just isn't the same anymore. And no matter what Ian try's to do, Sega is still there making sure his character is absolutely terrible compared to how we saw him in... Again, 06. Every character (except shadow) was improved upon in the comics, or the games. I just want shadow done right. I want him to be at least close to how he was in *again*, 06. Prime was so close to breaking that hold Sega kept on him. But again.... Sega still wants him to be an edgy. I hope that there's a game that fixes his character completely. Makes him like... AGAIN 06. But i don't see that happening anytime soon.

@Right_Bumper 7 месяцев назад

Season 1: Terrible Season 2: Decent but not enough screen time Season 3: Decent but not enough screen time Wtf? Why does the show make it think Shadow hates teaming up with someone

@kaninekorvid4923 3 месяца назад

I think characterisation wise, it’d make sense for shadow to be hesitant in befriending ppl being someone so hurt by grief over Maria - but that doesn’t change the fact he needs people even if he is the ultimate lifeform- team dark was so well constructed in that right bc while it was never explicitly said in words how much they bonded over the course of working together, they knew they all served a purpose to one another, looking out for eachother, and truly made up a family dynamic - no clue why they’ve decided to move rouge into sonics team instead with the newer sonic games and shows bc it’s such an insane combination that doesn’t make any sense - and it only further isolates and dehumanises Shadows character which is entirely not the point of his existence at all. I think the biggest point, at least for me, with shadows character (which can also be reflected in the rest of team dark) is that he initially wouldn’t have been expected to house humane characteristics and sympathetics having being made in a lab- but he does and that’s what makes him so special

@studioamewsment8338 5 месяцев назад

I always thought by how Shadow was so heavily used in the trailers he would be more prominent in the show, I actually wanted to see interactions between him and the shatter variants of the other characters.

@nhoultheghoul 7 месяцев назад

5:04 the fact you pointed this out before the Shadow Generations trailer dropped too 😂😂

@spark_shock 8 месяцев назад

So I have some thoughts on the characterization of Sonic and Shadow. I’d like to preface this by saying I am pretty new to the sonic fandom in general, so i’m not as attached to the older versions of the characters as some older fans might be. I’m also trying to look at this from an objective perspective. I’ll start with Sonic. When I first watched the show, I had never played any of the video games so I wasn’t familiar with Sonic’s character. So as a first time viewer, I thought he was fine. I liked the fact that he had flaws and that his actions actually had consequences. He wasn’t super interesting but I thought he was likable. However, after looking into older Sonic media, I can confidently say that Sonic Prime’s Sonic is NOT the same character as, say, Sonic in SA2 (as a loose example, again, still a little new to the franchise). I think the show would have gotten significantly less backlash if it wasn’t explicitly canon. It would be better if it was like the Movies, and it existed in its own alternate universe or something. Sonic Prime just contradicts too much from the video games in terms of continuity and Sonic’s characterization. So, on its own, Sonic in Prime is an alright character, he just clashes with his video game counterpart too much for them to be considered the same character. As for Shadow, I LOVED him in Prime. My only issue is that he got so little screen time. Shadow was the best part of the show for me. He was the most interesting character by FAR, and I would have loved to see them dive deeper into his and Sonic’s relationship. From what i’ve seen in old Sonic media, Shadow for a long time was just an edge lord with a tragic backstory; a cool magnet, but shallow in terms of characterization. However, in Prime I loved how they characterized him. His serious personality contrasted perfectly with Sonic’s energy. I wish they utilized that more. So, on its own, Sonic Prime would have been alright if it were separate from the established video game canon (as inconsistent as it already is, from what i’ve seen). Sonic’s character is fine, I’d even say decent, if it’s not compared to his video game counterpart, because those two are NOT the same whatsoever. Idk, just some thoughts from a newer fan 🤷‍♀️

@AdamSelvig 8 месяцев назад

Shadow is fine but I prefer he would be characterized from 06

@andreasmeelie1889 8 месяцев назад

I enjoyed season 3 but I do agree with the flaws despite it being my favorite season. I love Sonic, but, yeah, he can be improved upon. Shadow is my second favorite.😇 It would be cool for a video analysis for Sonic Prime Sonic and for Nine! EEP!🤩

@cyberrex7071 8 месяцев назад

I’ve been looking at the comments in the videos for the recently released Sonic X Shadow Generations trailer and a lot of people say they wanna see Shadow use a gun again otherwise their disappointed. My reaction was literal slap in the face. Like seriously! He doesn’t need a gun when he can shoot energy blasts from his hands and create an explosion with his body at the epicenter. Those people are just kids who never grew up with the Shadow that existed before he got his own game.

@megashadow1390 Месяц назад

100% agree, im split on the show. Loved his VA, mostly loved how they portrayed him, BUT im sorry making Shadow a loner was not it. And yeah seeing Rouge in Sonic's friemd group is... Weird... She's like Shadow's closest friend wtf 😂

@mayracordero382 8 месяцев назад

I also love the ending of sonic prime and shadow is the coolest and congrats on 10,000!

@lucas.n.carvalho.artist 8 месяцев назад

Good vídeo, and definitely think more Prime character analysis are a great idea, but I also would love if you tackled more IDW(I'd kill for a Diamond Cutters analysis. Tangle, Whisper and Lanolin are a great addition to the Sonic Heroes lineup. The new villains are also so interesting too!) or even fan creations like Project Shadow(The more people know about it, the better. And your insight at how it adapts his origin would be sick!).

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the input. Much appreciated!

@VeniVidiVici.. 4 месяца назад

When they first introduce him I love that Shadow commented on his shoes ‘they’re air shoes’ 😠🙄 when sonic says that Shadow skates

@chi-wind8593 8 месяцев назад

Honestly, thinking about the series. I hear people talking about much content have but, does that mean we have been eating good, I been thinking I realized Sonic Boom was about 10 years ago. We have made steps not leaps. And it makes curious about the future. Honestly, I thought” Is the meta era over or a different era” I’m still not sure. Shadow’s a good step but remember would can always go back down the stairs.

@thomasdaartist8938 8 месяцев назад

Here's to hoping whatever next sonic series come out they can do better at writting all the characters equally

@passerby1156 2 месяца назад

Rouge not even mention as shadow friend, she was with him since sonic adventure 2, and so on in later game, heck her and shadow are next to each other cheering sonic in sonic generations. did they forgot there own games canon lore!???

@JBtheWeightlifter 7 месяцев назад

This is my favorite version of Shadow. He is serious and cool but he does care about saving the universe.

@dakosbyy 7 месяцев назад

I think we expected too much from a kids show, yeah, isn't the best sonic series (talking about the plot and writing, animation was amazing) but it's purpose was the marketing for the toys. However, I really enjoyed this analysis, thank you for this! My english is very bad, sorry for that

@33pandagamer 4 месяца назад

I figured Shadow was distant to the Shatter Space versions of Rouge, because he knew that they were not the real Rouge, and therefore not his friend. That being said though, he should have hanged out with the others at the end.

@SkippytWalrus 8 месяцев назад

I agree though, Shadow is hit AND miss. At least some things hit, and I'll take it over Boom Shadow anyday, but My real problem throughout this entire series is that Sonic just isn't in character. This drags his co stars, including Shadow, down. Though it did really prop up Nine, The finale didn't do Nine justice I think.

@SonicSwift99 8 месяцев назад

Sonic and Shadow have a big brother/little brother dynamic in this show and I'm all for it. It's not my favorite version of Shadow but it's still great and is right behind SA2 and 06. I just wish the writers didn't sideline him throughout the show because he was easily the best part.

@RaYu5150 25 дней назад

Shadow is like the big bro. No one is worried about the big bro. Because the big bro is... the big bro.

@numberjacksoctonauts7138 2 месяца назад

I'm not sure how to redo the entire Sonic Prime, but I do have a jump off point for the pilot. Instead of it being Sonic's "inner circle of friends" going through with the plan, it's actually Team Sonic, Team Rose AND Team Dark going in to fight Eggman. Hey, if we're talking about Omega being missing and with Big here too, why not add in Cream to complete the set? Somehow, the Paradox Prism is broken (not in the way Sonic did it because he's a team player in the games) and Sonic and Shadow are the only ones to get out unscathed. Both hedgehogs are horrified at what happened, and Shadow is especially upset as he's lost his SECOND family he made after losing his first one. Sonic's mind wanders back to Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Cream (who is like a little sister to him as well). Neither of the two are that close with Big, but they know he's also close with Amy and Cream.

@AyumuTheTamer 7 месяцев назад

So the whole interaction with Rouge is also an issue with IDW comics… aperantly there is a Sega mandate that has stated that Shadow has no friends… which in my opinion is stupid. That mandate also made Shadow completely useless in the Zombot saga for the comics… As for him showing indifference towards the other version of the characters in Sonic prime (including the robot versions) probably has to do with Shadow not considering them the same people. He was clear since season 2 that none of them were their friends and that they should focus on bringing their world back.

@Rattman_4126 8 месяцев назад

Judging by amount of easter eggs to the games in this show, I'd say that the reason why Shadow is written the way he is the mandates. Creators put a lot of passion in this series, but, I guess, just like IDW Shadow with Ian Flynn those mandates is something that they couldn't, y'know circumvent. But you definitely can see, that they atleast tried. So,in result Shadow isn't like, COMPLETE asshole there.

@BlackFlash09 8 месяцев назад

Please do character analysis videos on the Shatterverse varaints. For example, give Amy's variants their own dedicated video. Rusty Rose, Thorn Rose, and Black Rose in one video.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

I’d love to cover Rusty Rose. She was great.

@BlackFlash09 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming Glad to hear it! My only regret is that she didn’t get an origin story. Like her being heavily injured when the Chaos Council took over. And Nine abandoning her when she called out for help.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

She did make some interesting comments about her version of Birdy though. Enough to make me wonder about her origins.

@BlackFlash09 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming Speaking of Birdie, she’s been confirmed to be the same Flicky that was inside of E-102 Gamma. I hope she appears in more Sonic media. We need more of Amy flying on a giant bird.

@Nin_the_Shinobi 8 месяцев назад

SEGA's character development for Sonic characters has been all over the place

@ShadowStarkiller 7 месяцев назад

People REALLY hated Sonic in this show that much?

@DragonStar524 5 месяцев назад

Ive heard this IS canon to the Sonic timeline. Its said its SUPPOSED to take place after Sonic Advance 3.

@i2lovemommmy 2 месяца назад

Man they did my man dirty they just didn’t let him cook at all

@Starrmonster02 8 месяцев назад

Shadow was absolutely badass in sonic prime S3 he’s literally my favorite character his personality is perfect 🖤🖤🖤😁

@theionnizergamer 26 дней назад

They should’ve had SEGA write the show and had Marza Animation Planet animate the show.

@jeremiahscott2032 4 месяца назад

Everytime we get something with sonic and shadow, the only consistent thing is shadow destroying him in a fight. I feel like the fight would be better if they treated sonic like he fights in Archie and idw and make it even and believable

@porobotboyxxx 8 месяцев назад

9:45-10:06 Ian Flynn says this series takes place after Sonic Advance 3, but it’s a moot point according to him. So I think that we can place whenever we want as long it has happened after Sonic Advance 3.

@nithinshakthithiruppathi4028 8 месяцев назад

After Generations bc Orbot and Cubot.

@porobotboyxxx 8 месяцев назад

@@nithinshakthithiruppathi4028 Bingo.👍

@nithinshakthithiruppathi4028 8 месяцев назад

@@porobotboyxxx Got ur back. 😉

@meganshaw1949 8 месяцев назад

All of this is true, but there could also be a few other reasons. Maybe Saga is watching just how much the character is promoted as Shadow is in a lot this year. And also it’s possible that the people behind the show, didn’t want to get too close to the third film. This show ended on Jan 24 2024 and the third film is released on December 20th 2024. So maybe those are two contributing reasons as to why. In addition to that, this show was more into its action scenes and less into character relationships. It seemed to think like this: “Action scenes first and character relationships second”.

@YPhilou 7 месяцев назад

weird to see that shadow needs a chaos emerald to Chaos control off when in 06 and his own game he does it at will just like blackdoom taught him

@SuperGodzilla2 7 месяцев назад

i know this is a show about Sonic, but i really wish he had more to do.

@Pokemonka150 8 месяцев назад

Didn't Shadow insisted everybody in Shaterverse was "not real"? So why should he care about ghost Rouge when she isn't Rouge? Ghost Rouge wasn't even alive. And he listened to Rebel to wait during the finale. So, my guess is, Shadow sees Rebel as Rebel, and after seeing how capable she is, he knows she can be trusted like Rouge. For me, the second plotline was for Shadow and Sonic to learn about each other. To figure out how to communicate and cooperate. And Sonic cares about Shadow. S02E8 has good example. And during the final battle? Wasn't Sonic inside worried that Shadow might be dead? So getting an answer would shatter any hope. He was really surprised seeing Shadow was well. I've read somewhere the creators wanted to tell more stories, but had to trim a lot to meet 24 episode runtime. So they maybe had to cut some of the less action parts with world building and stuff. And we can agree, Shadow is so strong, that most of the fights would lose stakes 😅 And I think this "everything is canon" is taken too seriously. It is fun to see where everything can fit, but it isn't set in stone. And why would Shadow have a picknic with Sonic and friends? Isn't being social quite OOC for Shadow? Just asking 😅 I'm sorry if I sounded rude 😅 it wasn't my intention. Have a good day 😊

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Shadow wouldn’t be at a picnic with his friends? Why would he be at Amy’s birthday in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog? Because he cares. Even if he doesn’t like it that much, he shows up anyway. Regardless of whether or not the projections in ghost green hill were real, he never showed even a hint of caring. That’s the point I’m making. I highlighted how I would have written that moment in the video. Him taking a single instruction from Rebel or fighting a Rouge bot doesn’t mean anything imo. And Sonic showing concern for Shadow once in Season 2 does not undo the bad writing for him with Shadow being stuck in the grim in season 3. You didn’t come off as rude. And if the things you highlighted are enough for you to think he retained his links to his friends and that Sonic was done well, that’s cool. It just definitely wasn’t enough for me. Shadow was great. He just could have been much better.

@alejandrouscanga1004 8 месяцев назад

About that whole shadow saying sonic that everybody in the shatter space is not his real friends, we gotta look at it from shadows perspective let's look at nine for example sonic sees him for the most part as tails rather than nine a thus immediately trust him, while shadow sees nine and tails two completely different people.

@Pokemonka150 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming Right, I forgot about that game. And he was kinda in Generations, hanging out at the very edge of the party area (I guess). Murder!Shadow commented on it like "My social status was at stake" (which, yeah, is him masking his emotions or it could be him being bland and this is nothing else for him). But why did he refuse in IDW? That wasn't "just a birthday party" but a party celebrating saving the world. Why he didn't care there? He wasn't there to face off Eggman when he appeared to crash it. And he skipped the one after Neo Metal's defeat. So... what is "canon"? We will need to establish that first. And not a canon as I see it. Not as you see it. Nor he, or she, or they, or whatever else is there. But Sega's canon. Who said "everything is canon"? Was it Flynn? Was it somebody from Sega? Does it mean Boom, old mangas, whole Archie, X, 06, Underground, and any other official media are canon to games? It feels like you are comparing apples and oranges. I take this "everything" as a fun bit, nothing to be taken too seriously, but just enough to see the connections or the possibilities it brings. I make it simple for myself. I look at IDW, Archie, Boom, Movie, Prime, and any other as a "separate" dimension with similar stories, but their own differences. After all, didn't Sega "retcon" their own two worlds, and it's now one planet with continents and islands? Did the planet model look the same in Unleashed and Forces? No? Why? Yes? Cool. And did Shadow ever behave as somebody who acts upon his emotions? I think he is pretty level-headed and can keep his emotions in control. And how do we know how he reacted when seeing Ghost Hill for the first time? When he stood there before the gate, I always got the feeling there was sadness in his voice and eyes. In that episode, he gave Rouge a glance, but his brain already got the "not real, not your friends" message Sonic was struggling to understand since he "thinks" with his heart more. Sonic showed concern for Shadow twice in S02. And what asking Nine where is Shadow would bring? Definitely not the truth, but anything else that would get under his skin. So, yeah, I see your point, could be handled better, but what we got can also work. We just need to piece more pieces to see the picture. You would be surprised how something small can have a big or deep meaning. And again, sorry, I'm sure I was kinda sarcastic or "absurd" in places -_-

@Pokemonka150 8 месяцев назад

@@alejandrouscanga1004 Yeah, that's how I saw it too. Shadow: So what that they are look-alike, they aren't them. Period. Shadow can be very blunt and straightforward in this :-D

@Umbra_Ursus 7 месяцев назад

Unrelated to Shadow for a moment: Anyone else seriously annoyed Sonic reacts to both Chaos and Grim Sonic like they're something alien? Depending on when the show takes place, he's already seen maybe a half dozen Sonic bots, a Knuckles bot, a Tails doll, and even an Eggman robot. He should really react with some snark about that being a dead horse of a tactic, by this point. Is neat that Grim Sonic has the Emperor Metallix paint job, at least. That's something.

@SaddieMoon 7 месяцев назад

4:33 Not really series long as it hasn’t been brought up since like Heroes. When talking about the actual stories at least.

@DarionGNB 8 месяцев назад

Something ive come around to excepting when it comes to Shadow is his stance on "friends" not being exactly what we may think. Rouge, Omega, Sonic etc aren't necessarily his "friends" reliable abd helpful allies yes but friends like Team Sonic or The Chaotix they are not. He undoubtedly cares for them to certain extents and has shown it numerous times but they aren't shown to be as buddy buddy as some view them. Once folks come around to that line of thinking, it makes his behavior towards Sonic's friends that much more believable because i genuinely believe even with his relationship with Team Datk, Game Shadow would be more concerned abt the task at hand (whether it being the universe unraveling or otherwise) over Rouge & Omega. Thats just the kinda guy he is imo

@just_a_rebel8261 7 месяцев назад

I mean sonìc 3 will most likely follow Adventure 2 plot not exactly but with the shadow stuff

@fadadioX 7 месяцев назад

Shadow the hedgehog post 2006 has been nothing short of a cheap commodity for Sega to string out for extra views, he has been a one dimensional charade of his worst and most exaggerated traits without any of the meaningful character development from SA2,Sonic Heroes, and Sonic 06. While this Sonic Prime Shadow is a step in the right direction, there are still many more steps to be taken as you have outlined for him to be anywhere near the maturity he had in Sonic 06 or for him to care for team dark, what caused these lost years for Shadow? my guess is lazy writers who merely skimmed over wikipedia pages of past games with Shadow(or used the most recent media with his bastardized portrayal) or some sinister rebranding of Shadow by Sega to fit a sales demographic or perhaps even a combination of those 2, but I do have hope for his return to his former self with the Sonic generations Shadow campaign which is going to delve into his past...perhaps this is Sega's way of listening to the fans and rebooting Shadows image to fit who he really is

@peteypiranalover 7 месяцев назад

Hm that is fair, Shadow could have refed rouge's connection. 3:30 I think this show doesnt want to over tie in the games history since it could tie in 100+ hours of canon before u can watch the show. This show hasnt established shadow and Rogue's connection. The show has to thread both needles of canon and stand alone sadly

@crichie21 4 месяца назад

This is closest to 06 shadow that we have gotten

@math3us420 8 месяцев назад

shadow saves sonic's useless ass so many time in this show that by the and I just wanted shadow to let him die

@JayAndSonicYT 8 месяцев назад

How they can screw Up Sonic but give us a Great Shadow!!! HOW!!!!

@phobiusofmobius 8 месяцев назад

Shadow was supposed to be the more mature version of Sonic to pull in an older audience. Why did SEGA ever ditch that? I say they let him and Team Dark branch off into their own media line with darker themes. Good writers + good voice actors. It will kill.

@peteypiranalover 7 месяцев назад

Shadow as a character would have an easier time seperating that that friends he knows isnt the same as the ones in these universe. Besides doesnt have much interaction with Team Rose, Team chaotix, or tails and Knuckles. Some yes but but i cant think of significant moments. Most shadows relationships with the cast are Sonic, Eggman, rouge and Omega, Gun Commander, Silver and Infinite. The only one even in Prime is Rouge but they alt Rouges.

@lala-jd6em 8 месяцев назад

To me everything in prime was perfect except the writing. If they were more game accurate and took the story more serious while still keeping it fun it probably would have been the best sonic tv show to date.

@ObaREX 8 месяцев назад

You know Ian had nothing to do with this show given how cool Shadow was allowed to be. Ok but seriously. The show's ending left a lot to je desired. We never see what happens to Shadow, the prism, or the shatter characters. Nine, the character most important in the show besides Sonic, is left on a very ambiguously bleak note. Sonic's reunion with his friends is rushed and barely has any emotional payoff. And the state of the rest of the shatterspaces are just left exactly as they started.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, I know Ian had no say in this show. I also mostly agree with your views on how the show ended, but this was primarily a character analysis of Shadow so that’s why I didn’t dive deeper into the overall story.

@AniekanTom-u1v 3 месяца назад

Reason why Shadow didn'tcare or worry about sonic friend'sor hesitate to leave them in ghost hill was because (please listen carefully) Look since the story for Prime is canon in the dark- storied games(SA2,Shadow The Hedgehog and 06')We can see that from( SA2 and the end of Shadow The Hedgehog and in 06's shadow story)Shadow supresses his emotions so that he doesnt lose focus of his objective rather than responding to his inner emotions. In SA2 shadow only cried when Amy tried to redirect Shadow's line of thinking during the rest of the game we dont really see shadow become as sentimental at least towards the end of the game. In his own game we see that shadow regains his memory and his purpose for living and does not talk about his past anymore than he has to as he said he put his past behind him in the end we see him throw away hes picture of Maria and says goodbye this implies that shadow wanted to move forward and forget about his emotions so that he could progress or be at peace. 06' is the best example when confronted against Mephiles,Mephiles tries to convince Shadow to stop fighting for the humans now naturally a person would be puzzled in this situation or question his beliefs,instead Shadow tells him that whatever he plans to do he can do it alone showing that he's hesitating from switching his belief and focusing on the problem at hand with out showing weakness pr emotion Well thats just my opinion but and have a good day

@haveacalmheart3010 8 месяцев назад

(HYPOTHETICAL) WAIT.... what if... this is what happened instead of 06? I mean, both stories have an ending that just erases itself from history. And If sonic and shadow do remember this, but not 06, and 06 technically never happened because of that... Does that mean any characterization and growth from that game doesn't exist in the timeline? Is Sonic 06 all but moot, null and void? That... SUCKS! But wait, if that's true, then Shadow still isn't right; because in the ending of his own game he lets go his past, including his hyper attachment to maria, yet SEGA still describes him as fighting for the world ONLY BECAUSE of maria's wish. (and i'm not saying he completely let maria out of his mind, she was his dearest friend, his sibling, and you would always miss someone like that) Besides the point, if this is really replacing the events of 06 in sonic and shadow's memory (even though I wholeheartedly believe sonic, shadow, and silver WOULD remember 06) then it's... really a shame. Not to mention all the other problems this hypothetical would cause as you pointed out as well. hey wait a minute sonic generations still references 06 and it doesn't look like they're taking that out of the remaster + SEGA BETTER GIVE ME A GOOD EXPLANATION ON SHADOW

@BasedVegeta 7 месяцев назад

12:33 I mean...even Vegeta has a hard outer shell protecting his soft innards...or else he would've never gotten attached to the Briefs family (and ended up becoming part of it too) like he did

@SaddieMoon 7 месяцев назад

I really like Sonic in this show. Is he accurate to his main series counterpart? No. But that doesn’t matter as on its own it at least is a good different Sonic than that bad one we got in Colors. In this case we can at least try to like for what Sonic is instead of what he isn’t. I also like Nine. I don’t get the hate he gets.

@Fly_Silver 2 месяца назад

Also it did make sense Shadow didnt talk to them. He felt they were fake and couldnt accept those realities, but you cant blame them for not putting shadow in more. He's hard for people to write ig, I mean we have seen sonic boom, halo paramount and other stuff. It was risky for them. I bet even Sonic X got some smoke for it.

@hellfoxwolf14 5 месяцев назад

Heavy miss.

@SaddieMoon 7 месяцев назад

9:10 Was he smart though for it? What did Nine do that made him not trustworthy at first. Shadow was just very dismissive of any of Sonic’s friends. I was with Sonic until the Nine twist at the end of season 2.

@NineTwentyThreeTwentyThree 8 месяцев назад

Honestly, this is the closest Shadow we've ever had, but it sacrifices Sonic's character. Like yes, if Sonic was this way then yeah, he'd act like this. But if Sonic was being true to himself (specifically the Japanese version because Sonic localization ruined his character since the 90's) then Shadow would be much more respectful.

@BasedVegeta 7 месяцев назад

6:50 Yup, and it's great to see

@peteypiranalover 7 месяцев назад

You sonic was written like garbage but definitely better than the meta era. They are definitely trying to blend the eras of sonic together

@stellaandfluffy9300 8 месяцев назад

yes, shadow and Sonic both don't feel canon in this show. but let's face it, some of us (sonadow fans) only like the show because of.. okay, Im just gonna stop there.

@JapanFreak2595 8 месяцев назад

I honestly love the facial expressions Shadow gives when responding to Sonic’s quippy remarks. Doesn’t say anything, just give a look that says “Really?” and proceeds with the discussion.

@SpeedBird6780 7 месяцев назад

The reason this was scrutinized more than Boom, was that this was supposed to be cannon. Whilst Boom was inferred as a parody series.

@rayvenkman2087 6 месяцев назад

I never understand people insisting Prime and IDW to be absolutely canon to the Games when Sonic Team can simply turn around and ignore or outright contradict them in the next mainline. It’s happened to IDW Samurai Jack before Season 5, it’s happened to Transformers Bayverse Expanded Media after DoTM, there was a whole debate regarding Star Wars Clone Wars EU vs TCW and Doctor Who’s Eighth Doctor Adventures getting bumped out by the Big Finish Eighth Doctor audios as the prime Eighth Doctor Canon. If the next Sonic game comes out and says Amy Rose never led any restoration effort, then that’s how it is. You’re canon to a certain point but if the main series is still ongoing and managed by a different team, then contradictions are inevitable unless you have a continuity supervisor making sure things flow together coherently.

@AceCardGaming 6 месяцев назад

@rayvenkman2087 The Sonic series does now have a lore team. Whether or not you think they’re doing a good job is up to you, but the lore should be consistent when there is a team dedicated to ensuring just that. And I’m not sure what you mean when you say that you don’t understand why people insist certain things are canon. People say Prime is canon because that’s what Sega/Sonic Team have said. Trust me, I’d much prefer it wasn’t, but I can barely use that as a reason to pretend it isn’t.

@rayvenkman2087 6 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGaming I bring up the canon element because I have seen a fair number of works that brands themselves as official sequels, prequels or continuations of a series and were treated as such for a time until the folks in charge decides to dismiss them. The original Star Wars Expanded Universe comes to mind because a lot of the media were canon to the films and some ideas has even made their way into the main canon including the name of the capital planet of the Grand Republic/Galactic Empire but then the Disney buyout happened and binned it from canon while occasionally stealing from the pile. They may say Sonic Prime is canon but will they actually maintain that stance in the foreseeable future or will it simply fade from their consciousness and decide to discard it? How long will IDW Sonic be able to stay within the curfew of the Games before we get to a point the two can no longer be able to coexist cohesively without conflict? I say this because of Sega of Japan’s infamous attitude towards the Western Sonic. Given they’re a western creation, the way they’ve treated Sega of America’s contributions towards Sonic and the general rivalry between the two, I would not put it past them to dismiss them after a while. Sonic Prime might get the DiC Sonic treatment and with the current financial troubles of IDW, they’ll might find another company to start all over again. Cynical of me to say but I have seen it happen before and plus, they’re very inconsistent on what’s canon and what isn’t with no middle ground. They actually have a lore team? Wouldn’t have noticed considering the attitude towards the whole Team Dark not being friends and the whole Classic Sonic being an alternate reality of Modern Sonic instead of being its’ past debacle. I assume they’re more SoJ-leaning than SoA I take it?

@AceCardGaming 6 месяцев назад

The lore team includes Ian Flynn. But I doubt they have decision making abilities above the head honchos and probably just have to help ensure things tie together.

@manuelinacio4038 8 месяцев назад

It absolutely blows mind how the writers manage to make a poorly written Sonic and yet a great version of Shadow (but it still has problems). I also can't believe that Shadow barely interacts with anyone that isn't Sonic in this show. At least it looks like Sega is done with the edgelord fase of Shadow, I hope that in the games both Shadow AND SONIC are well written so we can have a better dynamic with them. And I also wanna say, the cast does a okay job with the characters, but Ian Hanlin absolutely kills it as Shadow. Absolutely incredible, might be my favorite Shadow voice and this is coming from someone who grew up with Jason Griffin

@mayracordero382 8 месяцев назад

Ian was incredible as the voice of shadow in sonic prime!

@donathan2933 8 месяцев назад

Agreed. As much as l love Prime Shadow. The writers don’t need to make Sonic an idiot for his character to work. Sonic being reckless and destroying their world was an acceptable mistake but him acting completely stupid and oblivious to the different environments and personalities of people around him was a problem

@markgill346 8 месяцев назад

I think the reason he lost his faith in Sonic during the series was because he broke their reality, the same reality he wanted to protect, and believed that he was the only one who could fix this, but in the end he did regain his faith in Sonic(mostly) although he still doubts him from time to time, I like to believe it is because he is afraid of something like this happening again.

@demontropolis7742 8 месяцев назад

Despite the show’s goofy problems, I ultimately (pun intended) enjoyed Sonic Prime. The best aspect is easily the action, going back to different episodes always manages to answer the question, “Is this show really that entertaining to recommend?” The comedy is also well done, Chaos Council especially, and I think it does enough on the emotional side to get you invested. I wouldn’t mind rewatching with a buddy every now and then. Even though characters like Sonic and Shadow are not accurately written as 1-to-1 as how they are in the games, idk that never really bothered me, probably because they’re at least consistent in the show itself. Despite his faults, Sonic was always uplifting in spirit, and Shadow keeping him grounded was a fun way to strengthen their relationship, S2 especially. I guess the “show is canon” aspect never bothered me, either. Even if it did, the ending brings back everything to the status quo 06-style. On its own merit, Prime was engaging to me, and I’d say it’s my favorite Sonic show despite not having seen the other TV shows in their entirety.

@maiyacurling986 8 месяцев назад

I enjoy season 3 and really love how Shadow was written in this show. This was the best version of Shadow we've gotten since Sonic 06.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Agreed. No competition.

@SkippytWalrus 8 месяцев назад

Okay, agreed, but it makes me sad.

@Starrmonster02 8 месяцев назад

I know right this version of shadow is the best ever he is absolutely badass

@DLxxx 8 месяцев назад

@@Starrmonster02 Can you elaborate on that? If badass moments during a fight are all this version of Shadow has, then what makes it stand out for you? It's not like we haven't had badass Shadows before, some that were significantly more fleshed out in terms of their actual character writing (SA2 and 06 being two clear examples). So.. I just don't get what I'm missing 🤔

@acejumper1681 8 месяцев назад

I really hope movie shadow has similarly good characterization. Sonic was decent but had better characterization in other projects, like the IDW comics.

@nukablaze9681 8 месяцев назад

This just makes me want a Shadow spinoff.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Would love to see this. This version of Shadow given some room to breathe would be amazing!

@Starrmonster02 8 месяцев назад

I know me too I really want a shadow spin-off he’s literally my most favorite character

@kaxcommentssomethingREAL 8 месяцев назад

2D, or 3D?

@JumperTV33 8 месяцев назад

Shadow PRIME! Coming to a Netflix near you!

@Starrmonster02 8 месяцев назад

@@kaxcommentssomethingREAL 3d obviously

@bakugirl23 8 месяцев назад

OMG. OK. So I've been watching a bunch of reviews of Sonic prime and not a single person I watched realized that shadow fights with rouge specifically in the grim robot battle. Rouge was specifically targeting SHADOW. Thank YOU for realizing this. It may not be too important but it definitely has to do with the relationship between shadow and rouge. Great video too 😊

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Thank you, Glad you enjoyed it!

@jadestewart6014 8 месяцев назад

I laughed a bit when he asked "Whose baby is this?". But to clear up the question, I think that Dr Babble is supposed to be Dr Deep's baby because over season 2 and 3 we see him taking care of Dr Babble.

@DarkReaper12 8 месяцев назад

It's clear that the Egg council are all just a shattered Eggman. Each repping a part of his known personality.

@DarkReaper12 8 месяцев назад

@monkebrain5932 Exactly. Eggman is an aloof, petulant child that sees conquest as a game and a man that takes himself and his own virtues too seriously. All wrapped up with a self image more overcompensating than that toupee.

@Perolin. 8 месяцев назад

When it comes to the ghost Sonic' friends scene, I'll argue that the scene as a whole is pointless. They were not real, there was nothing they could do other than run. But I guess Sonic is dumb to the point he just forgot it. That entire scene is just a waste of time, and it only makes worse the fact that Shadow never says "our friends".

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

It’s symbolic. If that happened to you and you seen images of your family or friends, would it provoke feelings in you? Or would you simply not care and remain 100% rational. These moments are included to invoke feelings in the audience and for Shadow, they completely failed him.

@JumperTV33 8 месяцев назад

@@AceCardGamingWhat about that one scene in the season 2 finale where his ghost friends were brought back for just a moment? I’ve been thinking about that a lot, and a lot of “What if?” Scenarios that go with it.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

@@JumperTV33 Yeah, exactly. There is no way for sure of knowing what’s really what in the shatterverse. Whether they were real or not, having Shadow dismiss them was just a miss for me. He saved Rouge in SA2 because his memory of Maria invoked a feeling in him. That’s exactly what they side-stepped here.

@andreasmeelie1889 8 месяцев назад

But, in the season finale episode of season 2. When Nine was fixing up the Prism Sonic and Shadow’s friends start coming back. But, then they get back to being ghosts when Nine feels that Sonic “betrayed” him and refuses to help. So therefore the ghosts were real.

@BonitoJoe111 8 месяцев назад

On the topic of Shadow, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the "PROJECT SHADOW" fan animation of Shadow's hypothetical backstory in Sonic Movie 3. It was shockingly good and heartfelt, if you ever saw it.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

It’s definitely something I’ll be checking out!

@skylord1846 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, I just watched it a few hours ago, and it’s amazing. For a fanmade project, it’s definitely worth checking out. Easily a 10/10 in my book.

@Artist_Unbound 8 месяцев назад

Prime Shadow gives me some hope for his character in the future. I think he was handled well with the fact that he is stubborn and forceful, but was empathetic when he had to. It kinda gives me hope for the third movie, because even they said that when Movie 3 comes out, they'll reevaluate Shadow's character. I mean in the show, they reference the fact that Shadow doesn't have friends. And other things like Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog, hints that they're minimizing the Shadow mandates.

@donathan2933 7 месяцев назад

Agreed

@JaidynReiman 24 дня назад

@@donathan2933I don't see how they keep this stupid mandate in Shadow Generations either.

@knowledgeseeker4614 8 месяцев назад

I remember thinking his voice actor was great.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

100% agreed.

@awesomeocelot7475 8 месяцев назад

Also Omega is nowhere to be seen! (And the chaotix too)

@liamphibia 8 месяцев назад

Or Silver and Blaze, as they're no strangers to time travel and dimension-hopping.🤷🏻

@redheero656 7 месяцев назад

Shadow was the best part of this show. I cannot consider this show any Sonic Cannon, because Sonic is simply too dumb. It's in it's own cannon like the live-action movies.

@mintwantsacookieanimations3473 8 месяцев назад

A massive theory going around tumblr in the sonic fandom was that Nine had captured Shadow and was using him as bait to lure Sonic to the Grim. This theory was thought of when one of the trailers for season 3 had dropped and Sonic said the line "he messes with one of us he messes with all of us" and people had pointed out how Shadow noticeably absent which made people think of that theory. And I feel like having Shadow captured would have given us more screen time with him rather than him fighting off screen in a hole for half the season. It also would've been interesting to see how Shadow interacts with Nine when Sonic isn't around. Cus throughout the show Shadows interactions with Nine boils down to "here's Sonic and Nine oh and I guess Shadow's there". Also he definitely should have had some kind of a connection to Rouge and the other characters. But overall I feel like Shadow was written really well especially compared to more modern Shadows. And Prime Shadow feels more like the original (aka not the edge lord version) version of Shadow that we got in Sa2, Sonic 06 and heros.

@knowingjordankid 8 месяцев назад

Was Prime Shadow hit or mess? Yes and no. Shadow has a good character In Prime and I definitely think that he needed some more screen time in the show. Another thing is that I felt like Shadow in Prime is still a side character In Season 3. The one thing that I need to know is dose Shadow know Rouge because in the show it doesn’t really seems like Rouge doesn’t even know Shadow. I really like Shadow’s relationship with Sonic in Season 3 and I really don’t like how when Shadow sees the Sonic Grim robots and Shadow has no word or reaction when they see the Grim robot of Rouge at all and Shadow just helps Sonic fight the robots. Prime Shadow is great in Prime. Great video Ace Card Gaming)

@Arkus 8 месяцев назад

I thought he was good, but also agree he should of had some interactions with the other characters.

@JumperTV33 8 месяцев назад

I would like a video about Nine and his ‘Villain Arc’. But I can only hope you can see the positive traits this character has and how even his negative traits make the show better. It’s why I love the character. Sonic: “Ready to give up?” Nine: “Give up? [in despair] I can’t! 😢 [In refueled anger] 😠YOU’RE the one who put me in this position in the first place!” Nine doesn’t give up for the same reason Sonic doesn’t give up. The unstoppable force against the immovable object. And also at the end, there is a difference besides Nine being backed into a corner. Sonic APOLOGIZES!!! He finally saw what Nine meant by building a world for them. And THAT is what got through to him. In both instances he was coming over to Sonic’s side on his own before his friends came crashing in and his “Fight for your life” mode kicked in. And whe you’ve been having to fight for your life ALL your life, it’s basically your factory default at this point. I guess you can say I’ve analyzed Nine as much as you’ve analyzed Shadow. And I hate it when people just want to punch his lights out instead of taking the time to see it from his perspective.

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Nine definitely has his positives, but there is also a lot of issues with him. For me at least. I guess it’s on me to justify them if I do that video! 😅

@bellamovie2 7 месяцев назад

The ending of the show was sh** Shadow is the highlight of the show for me He's the best character ever written and I'm disappointed that he doesn't have any screen times while we're stuck with the stupid Sonic in this show

@devinsauls9137 8 месяцев назад

Prime Shadow was a hit!

@DLxxx 8 месяцев назад

He didn't have any relationships with ANYONE outside of Sonic and was barely fleshed out all (the beggining of _this_ video noted several, immediate problems in this season alone). I'm not being dismissive of you're opinion, I just don't understand where it's coming from. Is not being an edge lord really all it takes to praise a character to this degree (some even comparing it with his most well written appearances in the past)?

@devinsauls9137 8 месяцев назад

@@DLxxx Never said this was the best Shadow we got ever depicted. It's the best we have for now and he's the only one that knows what to do. The writers don't know what to do with him and I will admit that, but since he's the only one with subtly with his actions and get things done that's why he's a hit

@Kojin1104 7 месяцев назад

@@devinsauls9137 Don’t backtrack you’re right. Sonic fans just like to overthink things that are actually great. This shadow is only eclipsed by 06 Shadow and there’s allowed to be different universes so I completely agree that this is a hit for his character.

@devinsauls9137 7 месяцев назад

@@Kojin1104 Thanks for the support

@Kojin1104 7 месяцев назад

@@devinsauls9137 thanks for being a Sonic fan I can understand 👊🏾.

@toonman5099 7 месяцев назад

I feel like the main reason behind why the Prime show has been the way it is, granted this is just pure speculation on my part from what I've heard, but I feel like Sonic's and Shadow's personalities are the result of the show being written before the decision to make it canon. Plus I've heard the show is the result of the first season getting split into 3 smaller ones. Granted the aspect of the suggestions you've brought up are also likely factors, especially since apparently a more "reasonable" Shadow as only recently been made in the works, at least for he IDW staff. Side note, I'm kind of tired/not on board with Shadow constantly dropping the "Ultimate Life Form" line considering the end events of SA2, hopefully he get's reminded of that with the upcoming Generations remaster with the added Shadow Campaign. I DO have a personal placement on where I might put this show in terms of the canon. I'd put it like RIGHT before Forces as a sort of symbolic culmination of the Meta Era. Sort of a situation where Sonic has gotten too comfy in being the front runner with the rest of the cast being regulated to cheerleaders that sit in the background (which also sort of applies to Shadow). I don't know if the placement CAN work, but that's my best option, aside from just outright not counting this as canon to the game's events. Although honestly based on my same sentiment, Prime could probably be placed between TSR and Frontiers, granted that's if we ARE still counting it as canon in the same method as '06 (where it's that the events DID happen, but the memories of them are obscured aside to a small handful of characters or there are some "echoes" of them).

@boomgirlbucko 6 месяцев назад

Actually I'm pretty sure he did speak to Rouge in the last episode

@AceCardGaming 6 месяцев назад

I meant the real Rouge in Green Hill.

@mayracordero382 8 месяцев назад

Prime shadow in sonic prime is the coolest version acecardgaming and I love your video!

@AceCardGaming 8 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed the video Mayra! 🙂

@CraftageNate 5 месяцев назад

Shadow is the best written character in a show that doesn't deserve it. And let's not forget that SEGA only wants the people to remember how cool and edgy he is so they can use him like jingly-keys. This would explain why he doesn't care about Rouge at minimum while still in every other aspect seems normal. I am not expecting a ground-breaking character from a Kid's show, but it's clear from the comics that SEGA just keeps Shadow around for fanservice.