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Prioritize Polish Over Content 

DaFluffyPotato
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In game development, there are a wide variety of aspects you can put your development time into, but polish is probably the best area to put your time into.
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Комментарии : 112   
@zxxz9674
@zxxz9674 4 года назад
As a Polish person I support this messege ;)
@woemoe391
@woemoe391 3 года назад
Eks Dee
@CykPykMyk
@CykPykMyk 3 года назад
prawda :)
@AshnSilvercorp
@AshnSilvercorp 3 года назад
thought it said that in the title too.
@FirstNameLastName-wv2iz
@FirstNameLastName-wv2iz 3 года назад
nice
@zzxoto9913
@zzxoto9913 3 года назад
I was content until now, but here on, I prioritize a polish over content
@HelperWesley
@HelperWesley 3 года назад
I completely agree. Once I have my games main mechanics down, before I even build the second level, I start polishing up the game. Art, juice, music, etc. And from there I start creating content.
@jashshah392
@jashshah392 4 года назад
Man, when did you start learning pygame? YOU ARE THE BEST PYGAME DEV I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
2013
@adryncharn1910
@adryncharn1910 4 года назад
I think i would have to agree with you.
@supercoding1430
@supercoding1430 4 года назад
me too
@welldun9769
@welldun9769 3 года назад
Dwarf Fortress might be an ascii game however it does have one of the most polished roleplaying systems ever conceived
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 3 года назад
It’s been a while since I made that video, but iirc, I was making that point with dwarf fortress (polish can be mechanical).
@spacemonkey2377
@spacemonkey2377 3 года назад
How come I just realize now you're making such high quality content? Hats down sir.
@CarlosVictor
@CarlosVictor 3 года назад
You showed Fez and Hyper Light Drifter, these two literally my reference in gamedev, these games were the game who inspires me to this world. Haha, your channel is great! Keep it up!
@haroldseven8675
@haroldseven8675 2 года назад
That 6:09 Fez 3d transition on a 2d game just melt my brain. HTF the dev made that???
@mipzy9168
@mipzy9168 3 года назад
I think it needs to be balanced. I have a friend who has a really amazing looking game. Like AAA quality. Super polished. But the content you get is only like 10-15 mins. He made that in 3 years, sadly I don't think it'll be ever fully released. I'd rather play a game where there's tons of stuff to do than something that looks pretty but only lasts a while.
@RobLang
@RobLang 4 года назад
I think polishing can also include removing features or VFX. Looking forward to getting polishing on my game once the main loop is done. Great video, keep them coming!
@Darksvnn78
@Darksvnn78 4 года назад
I think your lines game is reaaally good as a mobile game, if you implement some more ideas and polish the game even more i think it is perfect for mobile. Also, big fan of your work, what you can do on pygame is insanely impressive. Keep it up! I also find that a polishment that is one of the most important is on the response of the actions that happen in your game, FEELING that something is happening when you are playing is very important, that can be done with sound effects, visual qs and etc
@thereadypunk757
@thereadypunk757 2 года назад
I half agree. I don’t think polish should be used as a way to hide the bad-ness of a game mechanic, but as you said it is very important. What your saying could get someone a lot of players who don’t play for long. But an equal amount of time for both will get less viewers who are a lot more interested and invested in the game. This could lead to them telling there friends, family. And it spreading from there. But I do love me some camera shake.
@juantoledo5248
@juantoledo5248 3 года назад
Oooh, you’re talking about Game Feel too. Yup, it is definitely important.
@pontosanaz6485
@pontosanaz6485 2 года назад
but i mean, if you are trying to make the next dwarf fortress, the thing that you should priorotize most is your own sanity
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 3 года назад
Dwarf Fortress is a great example - a lot of the userbase enhances the experience with actual graphics instead of the internal ascii.
@insertgoodnamehere8029
@insertgoodnamehere8029 4 года назад
ZERO DISLIKES. WE NEED TO KEEP THAT UP
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
rip
@insertgoodnamehere8029
@insertgoodnamehere8029 4 года назад
NNOOOO
@michaelduncan12
@michaelduncan12 2 года назад
This video has some really useful advice based on experience! Much appreciated. New subscriber from this 👍
@ScriptLineStudios
@ScriptLineStudios 4 года назад
Very nice video! I really enjoy these gamedev theory videos. As someone who is still quite new to game development, these videos are really helpful. Do you plan on doing any more?
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
Yes, but I plan on keeping them on areas well within my knowledge.
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 4 года назад
So I think from what ur saying its important cus itll be played more, and because you can focus on the smaller aspects of the game which can really turn a game from ok to amazing.
@banishedguardian701
@banishedguardian701 3 года назад
oh jeez did i only just realise polish is spelt the same as language Polish i am the worst at spelling lmao and great video thank you, you are an inspiration for me.
@hipxel8918
@hipxel8918 Год назад
Polishing a game is actually the fun part of gamedev.
@Skeffles
@Skeffles 3 года назад
I agree to a certain point. A game can have a certain level of polish and lack content. At that point new content that adheres to the existing quality can be much more valuable to a games development.
@douglaslassance
@douglaslassance 2 года назад
The book Game Feel by Steve Swink talks about this and explains why polish is an essential component of gameplay.
@soupnoodles
@soupnoodles 3 года назад
Hey, i highly agree with this? Any tips on getting better at pixel art? Also are you planning on making an online game any time soon? It would be great to play it :D
@FunkyToc
@FunkyToc 3 года назад
I love polishing, this is my favorite part actually =D
@bojanjeremic1411
@bojanjeremic1411 3 года назад
Hi,You are best pygame programmer i have ever seen,you are very good,i think you should have a millions of eranings from the games,but it is hard ti come to it,LOVE YOU
@rick6309
@rick6309 3 года назад
really enjoyed the content! thanks
@flawlesssock8153
@flawlesssock8153 3 года назад
I won't argue with the importance of polish in games, that much is evident from the points brought up in this video. However the core mechanics of a game should feel fairly good before polish is added. It's ok to not polish until you have all of the levels designed so you can then see where weaknesses exist in the game beforehand. You need to be able to notice weaknesses before you give them a new coat of painth so you can potentially scrap some weaker mechanics and additions to the game
@kyle910
@kyle910 4 года назад
Another great video my man
@MarxyBasement
@MarxyBasement 4 года назад
so informative
@bryantgrey6695
@bryantgrey6695 4 года назад
Hallo, I am here supporting this great chanel.👍🏻
@fennecbesixdouze1794
@fennecbesixdouze1794 2 года назад
I would definitely take exception to the claim that Dwarf Fortress doesn't have great visuals or polish. The game's visuals are iconic and frankly stunning, they're just different, and it's one of the most polished games ever.
@samtorres4996
@samtorres4996 3 года назад
Well said!
@n9it
@n9it 3 года назад
yes, i dont speak polish but i think polish is lacking in many games!
@aikou2886
@aikou2886 3 года назад
And I think Catala/Catalonyan is also lacking in many games.
@NeoTalon
@NeoTalon 3 года назад
great advice, keep it up!
@stephendouglas684
@stephendouglas684 3 года назад
Linez looks like a vectrex game.
@daytimezombie
@daytimezombie 3 года назад
Damn kid, you got it
@bluearts5972
@bluearts5972 4 года назад
Also I want to ask how you keep your fps high. Also I want to ask what is more efficient : drawing lot of small 16x16 pixel cubes using pygame.draw.rect or using screen.blit to blit pngs with same resolution? Also nice video.
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
Are you asking about making pixels with rects? If so, don’t lol.
@bluearts5972
@bluearts5972 4 года назад
@@DaFluffyPotato Im using simple tile design: tiles are black im blitting them. But drawing 16x16 pixel black rects didnt make aby difference.
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
I don’t know what you’re doing, but the difference between drawing a rect and an image should be small.
@projectvibe1226
@projectvibe1226 4 года назад
Can you make a video on custom cursors
@scoopydevy
@scoopydevy 3 года назад
its quite simple: make a sprite and set its pos to the mouse x and y pos and hide the mouse
@faus585
@faus585 3 года назад
Really useful tips :)
@konnyher9222
@konnyher9222 3 года назад
please make a scrolling backround toturial :)
@survival_man7746
@survival_man7746 4 года назад
Music is at the same level of visual. But im so bad at music and sounds 😩!
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 3 года назад
Maybe overcompensate by thinking about it more. Do a checklist of things that are objectively bad like the same sound bite playing too often, or distracting sounds; as for music either get some free music or collab with / commission someone.
@maccar4062
@maccar4062 3 года назад
as a person that has made a terrible game in a game jam, I fully agree with these statements
@MegaNightmare
@MegaNightmare 4 года назад
I think at certain times your "polish"(well actually mostly vfx) causes the gameplay to suffer due to lack of readability. The game looks cool from a viewer standpoint but I imagine in the ball shooting game when the glitch effect plays its hard to tell what goes on and when the bullet time causes the camera to zoom on the bullet and slow down you can't dodge effectively (ex. 10:47 you die to bullet offscreen). Good vid tho
@dafluffypotatovr7362
@dafluffypotatovr7362 4 года назад
You could still see the bullet coming when you shoot. A lot of VFX hurt readability. It's fairly common for a lot of games, but in the end it's just a form of added difficulty. It's not a huge deal if VFX hurt visibility as long as the added difficulty doesn't come in a frustrating form. Realistically speaking, there are plenty of things in real life that get harder due to reduced visibility. In the case you mentioned, it's the responsibility of the player to not handicap themselves by attempting to shoot in a tight spot (which is a situation that would be considered reasonable in an FPS). There are definitely people that prefer clarity though, so if it's a single player game, accessibility/graphics options that reduce VFX could be useful for a lot of players.
@talhatariqyuluqatdis
@talhatariqyuluqatdis 4 года назад
Great videos
@victoriarittman9761
@victoriarittman9761 2 года назад
I personally think that one should not be prioritized over the other. Polish does add to the experience, that is true, but not having core gameplay and content makes the great visuals feel wasted.
@david2618
@david2618 3 года назад
I thought the title was a joke about some polish game.
@codingtoto1172
@codingtoto1172 4 года назад
Does someone know how to do this inverted circle ? (13:46)
@channelnamegoeshere4707
@channelnamegoeshere4707 3 года назад
Have a black background sprite and erase the center. After that just make it slowly get smaller.
@umanglunia2194
@umanglunia2194 3 года назад
Draw a circle on black surface, color it with a color c other than Black, Surface.set_colorkey(c) Keep reducing/increasing radius of the circle
@win_ini
@win_ini 11 месяцев назад
I read that as polish (of poland) and got confused -.-
@Raja-iq5pn
@Raja-iq5pn 4 года назад
Do u have 360 images or do u just rotate using pygame rotate func
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
Rotate
@ps4star286
@ps4star286 3 года назад
How do you get pygame to run so smoothly? When I played around with it a few years ago I remember it going
@dhrumildave4221
@dhrumildave4221 2 года назад
It depends on the way pygame.draw and pygame.display is used in the display part of the program, if you can share your code, majorly done mistakes can be found, also Stack Overflow would be so great to use actually. Btw what do you exactly mean by few,? Also I remember, at one point I realised that a lag was there bcos I was rendering the entire map :P so then I made sure not to render anything outside of screen.
@dhrumildave4221
@dhrumildave4221 2 года назад
And yeah I am also sure that DaFlufflyPotato uses simple Python and Pygame and nothing else
@musicdudejoe263
@musicdudejoe263 3 года назад
Can you tell this to Rainbow Six? Even they don't get the basic principle
@hm4266
@hm4266 4 года назад
When you google Pygame you see some absolutely garbage games, I can’t believe this guy makes those awesome games on it, that’s incredible...
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
A few of those games aren’t mine (the ones with the title listed for the first appearance). The list of my games can be found here: dafluffypotato.com/projects
@Mayank-hm7cc
@Mayank-hm7cc 4 года назад
What is that game in the starting did you make that
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
That first screenshot is from my first decent scale game from back in 2013.
@monohero231
@monohero231 4 года назад
DaFluffyPotato was it in pygame?
@DaFluffyPotato
@DaFluffyPotato 4 года назад
Yes
@Mayank-hm7cc
@Mayank-hm7cc 4 года назад
Iam talking about this 0:35
@dafluffypotatovr7362
@dafluffypotatovr7362 4 года назад
@@Mayank-hm7cc it says what it is on the bottom left that it's Hyper Light Drifter and I did not make that. All of the ones that were named in the bottom left were not things I made.
@shivangrathore
@shivangrathore 3 года назад
Hello, I watched your particles video But I kinda still struggling with explosion particles
@coconaatti2878
@coconaatti2878 4 года назад
Can you make a tourtial about multiplayer online?
@ekremdincel1505
@ekremdincel1505 4 года назад
Search up socket library
@coconaatti2878
@coconaatti2878 4 года назад
Socket library? I didn't hear that before
@ekremdincel1505
@ekremdincel1505 4 года назад
@@coconaatti2878 it is the lowest level internet connection interface for us. It isn't just a python library, it is a general concept.
@ScriptLineStudios
@ScriptLineStudios 4 года назад
Sockets is the best way in my opinion to do networking in python, you can find some tutorials by Sendex and it shouldn't be too difficult to integrate that with pygame
@coconaatti2878
@coconaatti2878 4 года назад
I should try it
@daboxguy3848
@daboxguy3848 4 года назад
I don't polish ..and my games are still crap. :/
@MarxyBasement
@MarxyBasement 4 года назад
haha polish go brr
@ArayaRetta
@ArayaRetta 3 года назад
*happy kurwa noises*
@deumnoctis
@deumnoctis Год назад
Polish makes your game better but you shouldn't build a game just around polish
@randomrandom450
@randomrandom450 3 года назад
I've seen game jam games with 50+ levels and dozens of mechanic, that are so broken, ugly and unintuitive that I couldn't get through the tutorial. Everybody can output bad content fast. A lot of garbage is still garbage.
@raffayirfan
@raffayirfan 4 года назад
Hello
@bluearts5972
@bluearts5972 4 года назад
Im 333 viewer.
@axps4964
@axps4964 3 года назад
3:00 really? Only polish. I think you should learn more.
@Happy-fn5hx
@Happy-fn5hx 4 года назад
Awesome!!
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