there is a live action version of this movie too. so that should be the natural progression. also intial D is definitely oe of te reasons y i love motorsports
@@ericstevenson5306 and as far as anime to live action movie conversions go this is a pretty good adaptation. It is really close to the source material and has deccent good actors known from a lot of Hong Kong movies. The Dad of Takumi is a bit different than in the anime but i dont mind since he is pretty much my favourite character in the movie. He is played by Anthony Wong who had big roles in movies like Infernal affairs or Hard boiled before this one.
Initial d made me a car guy, interested in drifting, racing, touge driving and sim racing. It’s just awesome. You should definitely check out the original series it’s really nice.
@@drakke125Channel That's great there are a lot of people who dismiss the originals but content wise they are insane and stage 4 and 5 look as incredible as the movies.
@@HaugenRacing For some other fun, check out Wangan Midnight if you haven't already. Highway racing this time so it has a very different feel to it. Also unlike Initial D where the only car that really gets much "personality" other than Takumi's 86, would be the RX-7s of the Takahashi Bros, in Wangan Midnight it really feels like each car is just as important as the driver.
@@HaugenRacing Initial d made me a car guy as well like this guy. I think you should watch the original anime series instead of the remake on your free time its so much better than the remake once you get used to the graphics. I think this version fits the video better though.
Initial D isn’t exactly about “drift racing” just a technique used in the racing they do. Later through the seasons they do tame it down to be somewhat believable since drifting isn’t the fastest way around the corner. Keiichi Tsuchiya did drift in Touge races though, but he said this was to make it entertaining to the people watching as he was beating most easily. One of his most famous quotes is the “drifting is not the fastest way around the corner but is the most exciting way” There are plenty of people into Touge racing in AC and plenty of mods to make it awesome! Should get some Touge grip runs in! :)
In a nutshell, Takumi mastered the slip angle technique (he stopped using unnecessary angle after shingo battle after he realised) basically rotating the rear with the throttle/brake/weight and with little to no counter steer (sliding on all 4 wheel through the corner) Pro do this as well. Rather destroying his momentum, he maximum the grip of all 4 wheels when cornering to not lose the momentum and does this constantly entering in and out of corners. This is why he was quick and why you will see some drivers faster than you even you are doing everything what they are doing - they just can utilise more of their grip of all 4s efficiently than you thus carrying more speed.
I dont really think Takumi is using slip angle, if you take a look at Dr. Joshima's driving style he mastered slip angle, and the difference between the two is kinda big
I think drift racing originated from when ppl had cars that were super low hp and it was faster to take a corner with a slide than grip, similar to a slip angle in real car racing
It’s a good explaination You guys need to check Gunsai and hot version old footages some of them are translated Touge is basically drive the car like you stole it but there is touge drift and touge were you’re not supposed to drift And a observation : in old D1GP, when the lead have a weak path through the corner, even the 4 wheels on track and the chase see an opportunity, he can overtake very aggressively sometimes and win by K.O the battle But if the overtake attempted leads to a crash of the lead the chaser loose the run I think it would be very interesting to bring back this rule in the drift community, things are too soft those days P.S : a well balanced and tuned 200hp 86 with stock body can follow and pass a GT-R on a Touge course
I don't think that's faster, it might actually be vice versa, because rally cross cars slide more than lower power cars, and the more hp rally cars have the more sections their drivers slide. And it's not only about off-road.
@@kuratchi544 they do that on asphalt too, and you're right I haven't watched RWD rally cars and sliding isn't a great thing to do with them, but I still think drifting is such a waste of grip, it could just be a rule 🤔 to drift while racing.
@@HaugenRacing I have a friend that lives in Kanagawa and they see a lot of street racing from time to time, it's definitely still active, it's just dying out. Surprisingly, the local police seem to be ok with it from what my friend tells me...
"Drift racing" isn't really a thing, at least not anymore because cars have insane downforce nowadays which makes the technique kind of useless. Back in the day with some cars it was faster to go around a corner with really high slip angle but minimal to no countersteer, sometimes called a four wheel drift. On these curvy mountain roads even regular old drifting was sometimes faster than a full grip run it's just that it takes a lot of skill to execute properly. A drift can also be a safer way to carry speed through a corner you don't know well. Slip angle is still used instead of a full grip run in most racing such as F1 but it's way more subtle than it would have been on the touge. The reason the R32 is losing to the 86 is because Takumi is a racing god who's driven consistently since he was 13 delivering tofu on Mt. Akina, the course they're racing on. Also a heavy car like the GTR is highly prone to understeer which really doesn't help his whole "grip is faster than drift" shtick. The track is just not the preferred track of an R32 and that's not a stock AE86. Initial D was what got me into cars and car culture as a whole.
But Hachiroku wasn't highly tuned, at moment of R32 race, he had about 140hp, rally gearbox with shorter gears and upgraded suspension. I think that main reason why Nakazato was so slow it's ESC, he just should start drifting, we saw how fast can be R32 thanks to Shinigami, also we saw drifting EVOs that was faster than Takumi.
@@skx5110 AE86 was highly tuned suspension-wise. Also to add to the R32's disadvantage, it was harsher on tyre wear, and the driver is a short tempered hotheat prone to mistakes
I watched this a long time ago. If I remember correctly, his father changed the engine and did some other modifications. That's why it's faster than your usual AE86
The only modifications Bunta made was the engine, bucket seat and suspension settings for a bit. Everything else was done by Ryosuke and his mechanics in Project D
I watched the first 3 fast and furious movies religiously when I was younger but didn’t get into cars from it. Initial d got me hooked, I’ve been a car enthusiast since
Note: Drifting mostly only works on the Touge. On a track, slip angle or grip is far more superior. Also, the show makes the BALANCE of the car a VERY BIG deal, like weight is superior in downhill and power is superior in the uphill kind of stuff.
Unless the track racer is weighing in at 5.5 tons That is why on the track racing truck series in the 90s a certain finnish man in a sisu did real speed drifting and dominated the decade of the series
@@gasmaskerobin1560 i don't really think that. I think its just a misconception of the animatos or something, because even in the beginning Ryosuke said something like "minimal countersteer four wheel drift" in the Nakazato race while the animation clearly depicts a stylish high angle, high countersteer drift
Initial D really is the most realistic and down to earth anime ever made. It truly got me into jdm cars with an FC savannah being my second most most wanted car. El camino still takes the top.
I was always a muscle kind of guy but once my friend wesley introduced me to this I was a JDM guy all the way (I still do like muscle from time to time)
initial d rlly was what got me into jdm cars and drifting, my dad and brother were always into cars in general and my dad has worked on them all his life and I never really got into it until i watched the show
I highly recommend watching the series beginning to end. Theres a few things you are missing, first being that Takumi drives the akina mountain pass for years before doing any races. He specifically races the downhill, which makes his 86's lack of power less important, since he wont be fighting the hill to accelerate. The straights between the corners are short, meaning there is no time to accelerate, since you have to slow down for the entry speed on the next corner. The 86 is lighter than all of the other cars, and the rwd makes a good balance of the traction and heat being applied to the tires. He also knows all of the lines and tricks on the hill, his special trick being the gutter run. The 86 has a 4 link coil sprung rear axle, and a MacPherson strut front suspension, which means it actually has very good ground clearance, specifically allowing it to do the gutter trick. The 86 is very easy to tune, at one point Bunta, Takumi's dad, says he changed the drift settings on the car but its not shown what he does, but the 86 front steering arm is a bolt on component, which means steering arms with different Ackerman would be very easy to swap in. The 4 link rear axle would be easy to adjust as well. Most vehicles don't have a bolt on steering arm, so that's usually not even an option. As far as his technique, he races to go as fast as possible, the drifts allow him to corner and maneuver quickly around the corners, the rest is grip, or slip angle. the drifts also allow him to position his car more effectively to exit the corners. on a course with long sweeping corners, this would be less effective,
Those first few videos which you saw, with all those 'sketchy' type art is from Legend reboot movie trilogy, basically all the main events of the First Season, but with newer art. HOWEVER, those do NOT come with EUROBEAT, the main ingredient which made Initial D great. Also it misses out on a lot of character development and other stuffs which was skipped over in the First Season. To watch the series, we would highly recommend to watch from First Stage, despite being from 1998 and having PS1 type CGI, its much better than going straight up to Legend Trilogy. The next one with a lot 'CLEANER' art style is basically the battles from Fifth and the Final Seasons, which came in 2012 to 2014, hence the different artstyle. The final one is technically a particular battle from the first Season, but with more advanced CGI (from 2001)
Initial D is actually my entire love for cars. Though I would suggest you watching the original series not the three movies. Those three movies are yeah a speed run summarized version but if you watched the entire thing, I would guarantee you'll love the series. And hoping how you would see his techniques like the gutter runs and stuff.
I'd say the first 3 stages are worth watching for sure. Stage 4 is good but not for everyone. It has a way more serious tone and is more a collection of races. Stage 5 is just there, kinda alright but not the best. I miss when Initial D had some plot to it like it did in first stage
Initial D introduced way more than just drifting. It introduced different driving techniques to watchers. It even talks about suspension tuning, proper braking, even levels of stepping on the gas pedal!
That AE86 is perfectly tuned because the boy who drives the car his father was a Circuit Racing Champion. He switched AE 86 Engine to Racing Engine , Grip , Roll Cage Etc... . I don't know where you got inspired to drift but drifting was a secret move from Japan in racing. After this anime people all over the world inspired to drifting. This anime was a tribute to the 90's JDM,Street Racers
at 3:40 the reason why he could keep up with the r32 is because the r32's brakes and tires where worn out from the down hill so the r32 couldn't corner as fast
Initial D was a great series. I was already into cars at the time I saw Initial D (around 10-12 yo). Fast and Furious movies hadn't come out yet, but I was a huge fan of the JZA80 and my friend was into S-chassis. I did begin becoming a fan of Evos after watching Initial D
I would recommend you to start watching from the very 1st episode of initial d. You will understand how touge racing is actually in Japan. The battle stage 3 are races from the main 5th stage and final stage anime
for me initial D got me into cars, drifters, car games (gran turismo) and anime as a kid. anime got me into japanese culture. friends and the fast and the furious picked up where initial D left off as far as love of cars as i got older. have gone from hondas to bmws to a scatpack challenger... every car fun in it's own way =P
3:38 actually, since its a tight hairpin, its anyones game, so it wouldn't be 'completely fake', takumi has less room and hes on the outside right next to a guardrail so hes going a little bit slower than the R32, but Touge racing horsepower means very little, and especially on a tight corner
7:22 and also the entire reason Takumi was physically able to do the gumtape deathmatch was because his technique already heavily relied on the throttle to turn the car in the drift, allowing for the minimal countersteer by drifting all 4 tires at once.
The anime/manga is lightly based on pro driver Keiichi Tsuchiya AKA The official DRIFT KING. Any drifter in Japan would say he is the true Drift King, no argument. Keiichi was outracing all cars including R32's with simply an AE86 on both mountain passes and in the professional world. He had a massive impact on the entire drifting and racing scene in Japan and worldwide. He was also in the movie Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift. He had a small appearance and also he did ALL the stunt driving on the mountain pass scenes.
@@HaugenRacing You've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet. If people who like Initial D want to drift in real life, it'll take a certain level of commitment and drive. TL;DR Initial D isnt realistic but just like Matt, anything can be your initial inspiration, it's about where you go with it.
Essentially from my understanding, the drifts are less form, more function. Older cars didn't have the ability to grip around the bends and curves of the Japanese mountain roads at high speeds so drifting became a necessity to maintain speed and the goal was to initiate the drift as late as possible, maintain an optimal line through the corner and then regain traction and accelerate as early as possible. So the opposite of modern performative drifting where you want the biggest longest slides, they were just trying to spend as little time as possible in a lower gear trying to regain speed.
6:28 hand brake/ hydro brake drifting is a very "Newbie/amature" initiation, fun fact the drift king himself Kaiichi Tsuchiha, when he drifted, did NOT use the hand brake, only pedals. Which is an extremely difficult thing to master and very old school, even in the anime Iketani the lead for Akina speed stars said the same thing.
I used to watch initial d back when I was in middle school. This is why I got into cars. Unfortunately never got into drifting but I do time attacks and auto cross. Initial d is definitely one of the best things ever to have happened to me. Cars are not just metal boxes for some us. Working on my car saved me a ton of times from some of my darkest days. Cheers to every car guy drift, drag, competition, stance, low riders. This is the best community. Be safe and never stop driving.
Its ok, I would highly suggest you to do it. Watch the original First Stage to Final Stage. Fifth and Final Stage are not available in legal sites unless if you go to other anime websites such as 9anime or GoGoanime. Also those last two seasons are NOT in dub, so I would suggest you to watch the series in sub
Initial D is what got me into watching anime. My friends and me already had a love for cars (imports and domestic). Fast and the Furious did help strengthen that love for cars though.
Low key wanted to see more reaction of the inertia drift and the tape death match. As a fwd autocross guy it's very possible as u can control front wheels seperate to rear wheels. But low angle 4 wheel drifting a rwd is toooough
@@HaugenRacing pooooo. This show was the biggest factor for me growing as a driver. Some one is always faster and the moment you blame something other then Yourself that's when you start to limit your growth.
initial D is about illegal street racing, drift naturally occurs downhill, when you watch stage 4, uphill races, no one really drifts. Even in stage 1, when takumi races on Usui mountain against those girls, the girls either gripped or drifted depending on the corner.
This series also helped by the Drift King itself by teaching how the car moves while staffs are working on Initial D Third Stage Movie.Also,he was succeeded to become Drift King itself because one thing,Mt.Usui Mt.Usui is the track that it has long straight and corner roads.Thats when the DK trained to get better at drifting himself. *BASED ON TRUE STORY* He did also tells that supercars are worthless at downhill lol. (Theres two facts between me and StreetVision for explain those)
Nope, don't watch it until the you finish all the way to Final Stage. Legend reboot movies do NOT have eurobeat, and they miss a lot of character development. Watch it at last
This, Wangan Midnight, Tokyo Drift, and old vhs tapes of actual Japanese racing. Japanese culture also kinda just made it all even better. Very wonderful people.
Instead of slow showing off drift, they use fast drift closer to slip angle, actually on some parts of the touge, even drift with large angle can be faster. Takumi - racer who learnt weight distribution, he even can use gutter run(one of his rivals broke his car after trying to copy takumi's gutter run), also Takumi is downhill racer. On short, narrow roads cars don't have time and space to use their power, average speed while racing in anime was about 70-80 km/h, so no matter how fast your car is (takumi on AE85, was able to successfully chase and overtake 180SX and S15(or S14)). Like Takahashi Ryoske(another Initial D character) said: "Sometimes having powerful car makes you slower", also I don't see reason to not believe in all of this, because Keiichi Tsuchiya was consultant for this anime.
initial d is what got me into cars on it's own, i grew up around cars, pontiac trans ams, etc, you name it, but i love me some JDM. not the biggest fan of drifting, but the series was so fun to watch! thanks for the video man!
There's more to Takumi's drifting than the animation would suggest, there's a whole character development after the gum tape deathmatch about him learning to angle his drifts less to go around corners faster
This is actually still going on in Japan where they race down mountain roads during night. Very illegal and dangerous, but there's very little traffic so shouldn't cause too much trouble. "Madventures Nippon - Drifting" is a short clip from a Finnish adventure show where they explored these drifting contests among other less known stuff.
Initial D actually got me into street racing, though we dont have any mountains or big hill sections around the area that we can race so we race in the forest.
To answer your questions about how the ae86 could keep up is because Takumi’s father basically developed the car like a proper track car, engine swaps and all, from actual race teams and development labs. Everyone else only putting commercially available parts.
Without trying to sound like a Pro (cause we all know you're the real pro here) you don't see many Handbreak entries because they aren't using that form of Drifting! Instead they tend to use (Deceleration Drifting & Weight Shift Drifting) aka "Inertial Drift" which requires more skill and finesse than Handbreak Drifting also the H.B. would be a bit too agressive and would slow them down a lil bit which is not what they want in a Cat & Mouse Drift Race.
100% right! This video got chopped up pretty gnarly because of copy rights but yeah we kinda talked about that in a section. Good to see someone noticing that!!
So the way they explain the 86 keeping up with higher teir cars. The story is the a86 was his fathers racecar and it isn't stock, his father was a badass racer, and had his son deliver tofu for their family business with a cup of water in his car (tofu is often stored submerged in water).... he wasn't alowed to spill, but delivery was still a chore for him so he got faster and faster lol.
They mainly drift going downhill. It's a big debate on the show. Some choose to grip the whole way. Others drive like they are downhill skiing. The ae86 is only competitive on the down hill races. It's not powerful enough to race going up the mountain with the more powerful turbo cars..
Initial d is yes an anime. So it’s unrealistic in a few ways. But it’s actually pretty realistic when it comes to the ways they animated the cars. Touge racing isn’t really “drift racing”. Drifting is just something people did on the touge. The Night Kids R32 GTR wasn’t drifting at all. Drifting did calm down as the stages came and went to make it more realistic. But that’s exactly that. Plus, sure a Skyline would smoke a AE86. But that still doesn’t matter. You can still beat a Skyline in a AE86 if you know how to drive your car.
Initial D was the one for older guys. Tokyo drift is newer generation and it was mostly inspired by initial D. But when initial d came out, it was pretty much unheard of in the west.
Drifting has a karting line charm to it and got popularized in track racing when Tsuchiya started using it to perform some outrageous overtakes because other cars were lining up as a train as it still happens in gokarting today. If you are on the train and step out to overtake, your safe place is gone and you either gain a position or slide back all the way to the end of the pack. When a leading car takes and extra slow line on the inde, you can drift around and the crowd going with good chances of leaving the corner with more traction. Its not faster than going for the perfect qualifying time on a race track, but can be locally faster in a twisty sector and has advantage of a free line when everyone else is driving the grip line slower than race pace during battle
4:32 the reason why there was drift racing was because at the time the tires wouldn’t grip enough so it was actually faster to drift around a corner then it was to grip in most cases, especially with RWD. obviously the style of racing in initial d is exaggerated but still really cool
INITIAL D IS WHAT GOT ME INTO CARS AND IT IS A MASTERPIECE. AND BECAUSE OF IT I OWN AN AWD AE86 500WHP AND AN FD RX7 WITH 800(UPTO 1000) WPH.. And now i street race(and drift race) like a madman with my friends at 3 in the morning
Get our boy up to 69K 😎 Love seeing the growth, keep it up man. I feel like you are just one spotlight/ shout out from being huge my man. Try to get involved with another car RU-vidr in person or something when you get back from Japan. God speed for the R chassis build
Initial D is the best racing anime forever for me. Because, If you watch original anime version in 1995. It's full of 80's or 90's Japanese culture. Music, Cars, Environment, Fashion or anything in this anime. It's made me feel I'm stay in 90's even though I was born 2002. 😂😂 But when I was kid this anime it's made inspired me to love in JDM Cars. I think this anime it's made inspired or passion for kids who wanna be Racer or have a dream about cars. That's a good things. Even though many things in this anime can't do in real-life. But, I'm guarantee this anime it's give fun and experience to watch anime that you never watched in another anime.
3:37 True for the most part but there is footage of the drift king himself Keiichi Tsuchiya using his AE86 to beat an R34 so it mostly comes down to skill and knowledge. Edit: Seeing as you mention you also like fast and the furious Tokyo drift thought you’d like to know Keiichi Tsuchiya who I mentioned is the guy fishing when Sean is trying to learn to drift and says the line “you call that drifting” and “not bad”. Loved the video and can’t wait to see you guys try the duct tape drift.
Initial D is what kickstarted me as a young car enthusiast. I would like to build a drift car someday, but that wont be for a while. For now I'm content rolling in my 1997 Eclipse Gst, blasting eurobeat, and pretending I actually know what I'm doing.
