To make the discussion fair, it should've been pro-marijuana vs. anti-marijuana, or pro-psychedlics vs. anti-psychedelics...cause hard drugs and psychedelic drugs are on a whole nother level.
yeah you can OD on that stuff.... Marijuanna just makes you eat the fridge or stare at the wall for 10 minutes before realizing you were looking at the wall, not the TV. :P
@@guillemvidal1958 no it doesn't. Smartphones can be highly addictive and you don't need them. Why have one then? It also depends on your definition of "need". For me need is something that you would die without. You don't need to eat fast food and it can get addictive so why go near it?
That lady was so insufferable...she went from "God is my drug teehee" to "I don't need to know the facts sweaty" in a New York minute. Exactly the kind of religious person I can't stand...I'm sure she's really fun at parties -_-
It could be something horrible that happened but her childhood overall was good. So she can’t blame/hate her childhood just something that happened during it
the guy with a drug addicted sister getting excited and nodding his head with recognition of this sexually abused drug addicted girl's story was very worrying
I was abused as a child (not sexually but mentally, emotionally and verbally) and while yes that impacted my life and childhood incredibly it wasn't the determining factor in if I had a good childhood or not because overall aside from the one person who abused me, I had an amazing childhood. so I get where she's coming from and it makes sense
Tanya B but it’s also smart to realize that anything can lead you to something as hard as heroin especially when you have an addictive parent because that typically runs with the children. I have a brother whose an addict and because of him I will not and have never even tried marijuana. However, I do see the good in it but I also believe people take advantage of the “good” aspects as any excuse to get high and not feel shitty. I believe marijuana offers enough medicinally but I believe the “high” of it is almost never important to get those uses except for some medical cases. Ultimately I respect someone much more for playing it safe than I do someone who does something just because everyone else does and creates a risk (especially if they aren’t aware of their traits or struggles with addiction).
Emily Casey again I agree, but your point right there is why I don’t even feel like she needed to be on the panel. Drugs affect everyone differently just like alcohol, some people don’t like it and some do, some can drink in moderation and some cannot, etc. Because of Keys experience she was literally using that to say everything is bad for everyone and that doesn’t allow you to have an honest discussion in my opinion because she more than anyone (even the other 2 people that were on her side) was basing everything off of emotion.
In everyone of these videos i've watched at least one person has said they were sexually abused when they were younger, it is devastating to think how common it is and how there are so many children right now experiencing the same thing.
Ashley Todd it’s a terrible truth. I’m barely 17 and I’ve learned for the past 2 years that actually some of the closest girl-friends in my life have been sexually abused. It’s really terrible the last two girls I’ve liked have both told me things that have happened to them years ago and sometimes still happen. It’s insane how common it is and how scared they can be because they don’t know how to feel about it. These are teenagers I’m talking to. They have difficult situations already in high school and now they have these really personal situations that are just tragic to hear everytime because it’s so common. I’m honestly a little anti-social so I’ve only met a handful that have told me these things so I can’t imagine how many more young women and men have been abused and probably even more adults who have been abused.
Back when I was in a youth group all of us girls got together for a sleepover and ended up confiding in each other. 8/9 of the girls at that sleepover had been molested as a child.
I feel like when you get heated about someone’s else relationship w god and start trying to almost prove yours.. there’s some sort of underlying insecurity there. I hope she heals, I hope we all do
@@xboxfullauto1000 How did I take her out of context? She said she doesn't need the information and said that there's a lot that she doesn't know about recreational drugs.
She purely said that she doesn’t care to learn more because she doesn’t need it in her life and it doesn’t interest her. It’s the same as me not being interested in learning about tennis. I still know I don’t want to play it. You don’t have to have information to form an opinion. Granted. She has seen firsthand what drugs can do to a person growing up with a dad who was addicted so maybe that’s all the information she needs and that’s absolutely okay if she feels that way.
@@CourtneySolsberry She's literally saying she doesn't know and doesn't want to know WHILE being defensive and invalidating every posible argument about taking drugs, almost putting herself on a pedestal for staying away from them and not "needing" them, as if that made you a better person or smt. Who is she to judge in such a negative way when she doesn't even know what she's talking about?
Flipper everything that you just said is your interpretation of her intention. Just because she came off passionate with her words doesn’t mean she was being negative. She was telling what she believed and again, there’s nothing wrong with it. Whether you have information or not you can choose not to do drugs sir lmao.
The relationship one has with God is extremely personal, and the fact that Key (the lady in pink) basically saying JC (dude with long ass name) had no relationship with God (despite the fact she didn’t know him at all) was quite ignorant to say the least. Plus she wasn’t really giving him a chance to speak, she went full defense mode when her point got shot down.
exactly like talking about weed vs. psychedelics vs hard drugs vs uppers/downers are all VERY different and can’t be discussed as if they are all on the same level
@@veggiestraws2081 Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Papeter 07 you gotta be mentally prepared to take lsd or shrooms otherwise you could have a bad trip and long term side affects so it’s not just “why not” but that’s just me
@@brandongarcia331 the dude obviously used to get high on weed.. the only thing he still used is psychedelics.. he used them to get over his problem with weed so now at this point I don't see why not to take just lsd..
Key's attitude ruined the discussion. I wish she'd resolved her inner issues prior to coming to a conversation like this. She didn't have to come at JC the way she did especially because he definitely made a valid point. Didn't like her defensive attack-mode approach at all.
Yea it was kinda weird all of a sudden she just went into attack mode..... What she said was right tho, he held up his cross on his neck when she asked does he have a relationship and the thing is many people have crosses on their necks it doesn't mean you have a relationship with Jesus... She was right but she came off a little wrong-
She actually started in on the guy who said he had his first experience on mushrooms and it said it was a remarkable experience that deepened his spirituality. One of the first things she said was if that frame worked for him that’s find but she thinks it’s a dangerous path and God is her opening to her spirituality so she doesn’t need drugs to get that. Since she essentially said her way was superior to his JC asked her if she had ever tried psychedelics, in a way politely pointing out that she can’t claim her way is superior if she has no experience with the other way. And then she really popped off. She didn’t even give JC time to answer her question- when he tried to elaborate she shut him down with “Have you ever spoken in tongues?”. She’s a bit unhinged.
I can appreciate her response when someone is telling you what you can and can't have an opinion about especially when she was saying what worked for HER.
I think she was just being closed minded honestly like basically she was just saying she’s anti drugs and doesn’t care to know about them at all but that’s not what a series like middle ground is about
CODENAME PRINCE .... not every religious person is the same there are religious people who smoke drink and do other things as well she’s simply a close minded person there are close minded people who don’t practice any type of religion
Well it isn't. Carrying beads around isn't a relationship. I know people who carry those around, arrested for pedophilia, abuse, murder, and stealing money. Means nothing.
@@PresbianTier yeah the way Key spoke to him was disgusting if you're realtionship with god is based on judgement then I don't know what's holy about that.
He had a point when he said “it’s like someone who’s never had sex talking about sex” because she has her perspective and she thinks her relationship with god is the same as a psychedelic trip because she’s never had one. She’s unable to make the distinction between hard drugs and psychedelics/weed.
I don’t agree with you, I’m pro psychedelics but I also get her point. Her desire to connect with her spirituality is satiated through her beliefs in religion, his is through other means. Both people feel a deep connection through different means, therefore you can’t compare that to a virgin talking about sex.
Don’t dismiss the effects of psychedelics or weed. Drugs have repercussions regardless. It can permanently give you trauma or make you emotionally dependant to the point where you can’t quit those. That is the definition of addiction. Just bc you’re not physically addicted to it doesn’t invalidate the consequences it has on your life. They are for sure gateways to trying other things because you think they are harmless.
Duuucky nah it really isn’t a point, she wasn’t saying things about psychedelics, all she was saying was that she doesn’t need them, if you wanna use sex as an example her point would be, “i don’t need sex to orgasm” all she’s saying is she is spiritually happy so she already knows she doesn’t need psychedelics
Apollo but that’s how what he was saying. She tried to basically claim that the only reason people use psychedelics was to feel spiritual if they aren’t religious and he shot her down because she’s never used psychedelics and therefore doesn’t know wtf she’s talking about.
xboxfullauto1000 who is anyone to tell someone what kind of relationship they have to have to be in one with god. Maybe his cross is a symbol of his further relationship. I’m an atheist so I really don’t care but that’s just my opinion
I think a lot of people misunderstood what she said. He pulled out his cross as if to symbolize that he knows Christ like she does, but because he never actually directly said that he has a relationship with God and never mentioned Him in any of his points, she called him out because it seemed like he was just trying to use it as a way to deviate from her argument. Her questioning that is the same as him questioning why she hasn’t done drugs
Homegirl is only there to hear herself and she wants to put God then why did "God put drugs on this earth" do have to respect that no one is ever going to open her mind to anyone or anything because she sure of herself.
I am proud of home girl for shutting down this chad bro thot who wants to use his chain to bait her... she was there for empathy because she explained what she wanted and what she doesn't and why. He was there to manipulate her because he wanted to change her mind instead of respect her stance
@@addi9890 i thing JC was respectfull of her veiws and was just trying to show her his side of the argument she was the one who didnt even give him the chance
felt so bad for JC when key disrespectfully casted him as not having a relationship with god. she wasnt openminded at all. all she did was just talking about her beliefs and why she thinks the way she does but nothing changed like wtf was the point of the video. they didnt really find middle ground at all when key started getting all defensive like that.for no reason. didnt even give the other anti drugs a little insight on his perspective just because her pettiness. i didnt like the ending of the video at all it was painful to watch. but god bless anyway🙏❤️
MrMywonderworld910 her only points came from her experience, in a room full of people who have all had experiences with drugs AND factual information she was the least informed. Experiencing something gives you first hand knowledge but that’s it, and usually just anecdotal evidence. For example, someone in theology that studied Christianity probably knows more about it than your average Christian.
Tanya B but she’s felt the affects of drugs. The affects drugs had on her family because of her dad’s addiction. Her point of view is still valid and important. I mean look at the epidemic in the US today. People overdosing on opiods, and parents having to lower their sons/daughters into the ground. Their perspective is still valid. Of course if she did have more factual input that would be great, but her input as being someone who has lived the affects of drugs/drug addiction her input is valid.
@@flnn5450 his only point was that she couldn't say for sure whether or not mushrooms would heighten her experience if she never did them. He never said that she should and when she said that she didn't want to, he said that she doesn't have to. His point was just that she didn't really have a way of knowing with any definite certainty that it won't enhance her experience because she has never experienced psychedelics.
@@kylovesart and her point is that she doesn't need to. which was her point from the beginning. so, why did he even come at her with "try both or stfu?"
@@flnn5450 he never did though. He just said to her that she cannot speak for something that she doesn't know, but why did she attacked him and his faith as if she knows his relationship with God? She literally put his faith down and said that he doesn't have a relationship with God because he does drugs. The two doesn't correlate.
She looked like a total fool when JC pulled out the cross. “I don’t want to know the information.” Then what’s the point in coming to the discussion if you are choosing to stay ignorant.
she didnt really look like a fool, cause him having a cross really doesnt show much. HE looked like a total fool when he showed all of us he isnt over his addiction but yet agrees that you shouldn’t become dependent on drugs when he’s completely irracional thinking everyone should try it and we basically should let our organisms be altered by some random plant cause you wont know until you have the experience
Her main issue is that she first said that her relation to god was like taking drugs, when she actually meant that she was happy enough without drugs and didn't feel she needed them. What she meant is a perfectly good reason not to take drugs and JC would have probably not gone in on it, but she said the first thing and then tried to defend that statement.
Coffee is not a drug, caffeine is. Important to mention as you could have a coffee bean strain that has 0% caffeine. Also coffee is a drug. It has benefits - it can keep you awake a little longer and a little earlier in an unrestful night. This is an amazing thing - especially from a survival standing. Temporary substitution of rest for caffeine to survive a predator/get food. Those other two? Doesnt really make sense. Whatever they have as benefits can be gained elsewhere.
@@fahrenheit2101 perhaps I put it wrong. That's my bad. The point I meant to demonstrate is that sure a lot of things are drugs; however some have particular benefits that are not generally outweighed by their gains. Coffee has caffeine. Caffeine is the drug and it has benefits and little downside outside of longterm use in excess use (that is to say, my caffeine habit isn't healthy but once a week isn't a problem). Heroin being a morphine derivative could be a pain killer but it being unregulated the addictive properties are outweighed. Weed being potentially psychedelic similarly it's pain killing property can be outweighed.
They should have brought specialist like doctors to see the pros and cons of drugs because the people there don't say any facts, it's more about personal experience. For example the question about the drugs affecting the potential of people... they could have talk about so much things like the long terms effects etc and they didn't :/
Sophie N i’m not talking about the amount of research. all i said is that there are many medical professionals who prescribe medical marijuana to their patients are believe that it’s helpful.
alanna sommer-smith I don’t think it was disrespectful as much as it was telling the truth it’s like someone going to church on Sunday and acting as if they are super spiritual and during the week they are doing whatever they want to do. And they call themselves a Christian. It’s like you can’t just hold up a cross and call yourself a Christian your life has to portray that!!
She could have kept her cool, yes. But she was telling the truth. It’s a fashion trend to wear a cross on your neck. A relationship with God is different.
@@annalisawilliams4706 Ok but how do you know how often he goes to church or about his relationship with god? He never mentioned that. He simply showed her the cross to answer her question without interrupting her yelling.
Eh... even though I felt like her delivery could have been better I actually agree with her. Her point was that she has a more fulfilling relationship with the God they share since she doesn’t require a chemical alternative to “open her mind” or “realize her potential.” Her spirituality in her religion is all-encompassing and whole in itself. I think he’s moreso wrong for trying to say she cannot have an opinion about recreational psychedelics since she’s never taken any. That doesn’t make any sense
I think she should be open to hearing it, but then again, I don't think she has to be open because she doesn't really do drugs, so I don't imagine her to be interested in it
@1 Corinthians 1:18 Lack of information is what lead you to christ, the fact that you don't know anything and never will know the origins to this universe is what lead you down that path. The fact that you can't fathom the idea of not being the anomaly and being created without a creator is so crazy to people like you for some reason.
@@psymatik2064 @4 PorQueNo 1:19 Thy should think for themselfst to not be fooled by thy tooth fairy and papa Santa clause disguised by doggo thy rawrr leion.
"That is a symbol, not a relationship", well verbalizing a relationship proves nothing either(and neither does yelling). "I don't want to know the information", now that's just plain IGNORANT. I'm done with her, she's straight up disrespectful
Key’s ignorance turned me off to watching the rest of the video sadly. She got defensive and mad because she knew his analogy was right but her frail ego couldn’t take it and went into attack mode
I felt bad for her honestly, she’s obviously been hurt really badly. I don’t agree with what she did, especially when she attacked JC like that, but I hope she heals. She mentioned that she has a past with her father and everything
@@melzap8179 From a psychological standpoint --> she raises her voice, she spoke faster, much more hand movement, dismisses everything he said without listening. Conclusion: being louder doesnt mean you're more sure, shows how unsure she is when a logical opposing idea is pushed onto her.
@@melzap8179 She wasn't sure of her position. She vomited out every thought that crossed her mind culminating in a "no you" schoolyard tactic, that didn't even work because he was clearly religious, which she hadn't noticed because she was too busy being offended and thinking how to effectively attack him. if she _had_ been sure of her position she'd be able to calmly refute his objection, because he was making a logical point.
Key needed to calm down a bit.... everyone was so chill and she just went off. I get that her dad was a heroin addict and she has a really large hatred for drugs but....I feel like if she wasn’t open to learn more and talk about it, then she shouldn’t have even walked on set.
Truuuuth Hopefully this was an eye opener for her to see she really isn't on the fence with this topic. And get closer or help with how her father's addiction affected her.
Diamond 2wavyyy the part when the guy said since she has never taken psychedelic drugs, that’s like saying that she’s never had sex but is talking about how great it is and she refuted that, THAT WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE!
To be fair, I'm pro-drug legalization. Legalize all drugs. People are going to do these drugs regardless, and I'd rather they do government regulated drugs that are going to be more safe. Plus the economy would get a nice boost
I think the girl in pink is afraid, she has issues with her dad having been dependant on heroin. That makes her afraid of drugs because she drags the connection between heroin and all other drugs. Edit: wow, 1,1k likes lol
I agree she seems afraid, I mean who wouldn't? It's our first instinct as humans when we've been hurt. It's affected her dad and clearly has affected her. Also she seems to be aware and I think that everyone should also be aware that any and every drug has an affect/effect, whether body or mental health, it will make an impact.
She may seem afraid but it doesn't change the fact that "The impact of heroin use is felt all across the United States, with heroin being identified as the most or one of the most important drug use issues affecting several local regions from coast to coast."(drugabuse.gov) "In 2016 about 948,000 Americans reported using heroin in the past year"(drugabuse.gov) The CDC reported that "in 2015, 81,326 emergency department visits occurred for unintentional, heroin-related poisonings in America. 70,200 Americans died from drug overdoses in 2017, including illicit drugs and prescription opioid". I think she has good reason to be concerned.
I think she's happy how she's doing and where's shes at with her life and she genuinely has no desire. She's not afraid. She's a smart woman utilizing her passive experience to build character and create a comfortable mental state of mind. That to me is strength, not fear.
With her relationship with Christ...she clearly needs to strengthen that relationship given that god teaches you how to respond with wisdom in your words.
I used to always wear rosaries and I never had a relationship with Jesus lol but now I don’t wear rosaries anymore and I actually do have a relationship with Christ so hey the trend might be real lol
_For me, I grew up in a very conservative Mormon family._ Drugs and alcohol were never very tempting or interesting to me. In fact, I had a lot of aversion to alcohol. I didn’t drink until I was 27-I had already been out of religion for 4 years by that time. Anyhow, I wanted to confront my fears and understanding about it all. And I was very moderate and have been since. I have maybe drank 40-50 times in my life. And I have never had a hangover or been blackout drunk. I have only be high 5 times. *For me, it was a matter of confronting preconceived notions that caused me a lot of anxiety and fear.* And I was able to be like: “Oh, that’s what it is??” And it just took away all the scare. And I barely use any of these, but I know what they are. I don’t need ‘em. But I know that if I were to use these recreationally once every half a year or whatever, I am good. *I recommend having trusted people to help guide you.*
This. Although I'm only 19 and tried stuff in the past two years lol. I feel like if one feels they are mentally stable enough and don't have any intentions of abusing, then it is a valuable experience to try these things just one, with trusted people in a comfortable environment of course.
McKayla Winfree I am not religious anymore. I have had no problem with it any time I have used. I think the Church unfortunately imbedded a lot of unnecessary fears about such things. I respect if a person doesn’t want to do something, but to use scare tactics actually gives more of a chance that people will abuse things. For me, I am not at all worried about addictions to these things as I have now experienced them and they are not necessary, but it is not “bad” either. It is how one uses. There are drug abuses and addictions, but this it is not fair to call them automatically bad. There is a difference between recreation and habitual use.
McKayla Winfree that is true, I mean, I didn’t grow up in a very strict home, or rather I regulated myself. But I guess that’s my point-about it even being viewed as a sin just comes with an implicit idea that it is bad and therefore scary to think of doing for fear of repercussions. Like, what it is taught it is and what it actually is are two different things, speaking from experience. Once I experienced it, it was like, “Oh, that’s all it is/was? There is nothing evil about this at all if it is not abused.” I simply was my kind friendly self just amiplified a little bit. I was in control of myself. I was in touch with myself. And it was wonderful. It’s not something I need, but it was nice to experience and would not be opposed to experiencing it again was the way I felt. I feel it is a benefit to normalize it in a way and not think of it as sinful as a means of being able to be in the world, even if ya don’t partake.
damn. Key really just invalidated that dude's religion when she's religious too. that's kinda not cool I don't think that's how Jesus would've handled the situation lol
there’s always that one christian that thinks they’re sooo much better than other christians 😂😂 “we’re all equal in the eyes of god.. except me i’m his favorite”
The thing is she was not open to the idea of opening up spirituality with psychedelics. But same can be said for all those who will completely reject the idea of truly opening up to Christ for spiritual purposes. Most are afraid to find out if that is where the truth is. As for me i have done both. Psychedelic and spirituality first. And then seeked to feel Christ. Christ was the more powerful experience. Which was amazing.
Yeah, but i saw her getting emotional. She felt not taking serious cause she didn't have any experience with psychedelics. Even though it was very true that she didn't know what she was talking about cause she never experienced psychedelics
also the whole point of the video is for these people to share their experiences and opinions, pretty sure that's what she's doing. even if she's being a bit of a twat about it
The girl in the pink wasn't very accepting of other people's opinions and kinda just shot down whatever they said while pushing that what she thinks and knows is 100% right and they are wrong
Consider her past and her context, though. Drugs destroyed her father’s life and intensely impacted her own, too. She doesn’t even want to touch it with a twenty foot pole.
Would be kind of funny if one of the anti drug people started smelling something and was like "is someone smoking weed right now!?" and the woman from Jubilee behind the camera was like "....sorry"
Arpita Zaman No listened to other opinions and the topic of the conversation is the original poster saying she popped off just because she was stating her opinion. Any time a black woman does that she automatically is labeled aggressive loud or ghetto. Or told she was “popping off”
Nah, I’ve never done drugs because I don’t like people’s behaviors after drug use. They become illogical and look like morons. And I prefer actively doing something using my logic rather than passively taking drugs to solve my problems or to entertain.
It really is like that. You can't talk about having sex if you've never had sex bc you don't know what you're talking about bc you have never experienced it.
@@MichaelEavesMusic what part of sex needs to be experienced? Almost everyone masturbates, sex isn't a whole lot different, almost everyone has felt the effects of pharmaceutical drugs, some lay you out.
Smh oh man key girl 🤦🏾♀️ .... her defense mechanism was LOUD. For discussions like this people need to learn to put their EGOs aside. Your ego will definitely sabotage your chances of learning something valuable✨
I promise shes not gona die bc she refuses to depend on drugs 🙄 unless its prescribed and her doctor and herself have weighed the pros and cons, shes not loosing anything from this topic.
@@LOLBu Sometimes a bad trip reveals a lot about the things you're trying to hide from yourself. I'm not saying she should take a large dose but maybe a small experience would be good for her. But only if she is willing and open to the experience. Otherwise she may walk away more against it than she was initially.
@@LOLBu I'm kind of convinced bad trips are bit of a myth in that they cant be prevented.. I've taken lsd during some of the most disturbed moments and days of my life and it has only ever been beneficial for me. I have had my doubts about taking it because of the circumstances in which I was taking it, but nonetheless it has always helped me overcome whatever issue I was currently going through
@@petit-souhaite you lack in perspective for judging someone elses perspective. I lack perspective for judging you for judging someone's lack of perspective.
Damn, Kayla seems like a very intelligent, educated and articulate woman. She's got not only personal experiences to back up her opinions, but also a lot of research. It was a pleasure to hear what she's got to say.
I feel for Key. She's been hurt badly and that externalized itself, and that kept her from being open-minded and graceful in recognizing other perspectives. I hope she finds healing.
I think , I think the reason she feels the way she does is because she is damaged from her dad's heroin addiction and I think that really stuck with her, so all of her opinions were based off of emotions
ok but think about it this way, her dad was a heroin addict she probably was scarred from seeing her dad being drugged up as a kid, and he's still struggling instead of saying something toxic like "oh dont bring her back", maybe try to convince her in a different way, or just expose her to more stuff, I'm definitely in the middle ground, marijuana is okay but there needs to be restrictions, opiods however, especially for pain, is a definitive no, they way pharmaceuticals are distributing these out is like giving candy on halloween and sometimes even for the levels of pain medication they are too strong
The worst thing is to say is "I am middle ground", but when people give you historical facts about marijuana. You say you do not care about the information. You bogus Key.
Key got triggered, And got extremely rude calling someone’s Christianity into faith. Keep in mind, there’s a lot of people who use god as a way to connect with their spirituality that are incredibly hateful, harmful and negative human beings. She has no experience with it at all, and is over there shaking her head as the woman talks about having to have a personal experience that makes you rethink your stance on the situation. There is only so much you can contribute to the conversation when you haven’t tried and when you’re completely unopen.
Fully agree, I disagree with her saying that's not a relationship with God for all she knows he carries that cross because it helps him to stay postive for all she knows that cross is what someone who passed in his life gave him and made him believe more I bet she goes church thats just a building but people go there to worship what ever the reason its not her place to say what is a relationship with god and to be honest her doing that as a GODLY person showed how ungodly she actually is because lets be real one of the main message is love and be kind to one another ❤
because she was saying that she connects her spirituality without drugs where the guy before her said he uses drugs for it. it was a contrasting opinion
There's a lovely concept in linguistics called colloquial verbiage. Organic colloquially can mean "unaltered" which is a bit too narrow for its broad use but still.
@@christopherreichle6670 the point is that the drug is necessary to get to that place, to experience the full potential of that part of your mind thats just biological fact not something to be debated
@@kiritosenpai1501 in what way is drugs necessary to reach ones full potential? We don't have destiny, we make our own path. Someone like me? I don't need drugs to reach my full potential on the path I chose; copious amounts of caffeine helps but isn't really necessary. Tell me, a non-user of psychedelics, what I'm missing in my potential by not using them? Understand I am pretty fulfilled without them and that most of what I do requires me not to be high for me to enjoy it most: i like gaming, my major, music, etc. I enjoy them because I'm present to enjoy them, so in what way would my life be booned from using drugs?
@@christopherreichle6670 I honestly don't say this to be a dick but it's like your going outta your way to purposely misconstrue what I've said, like how do u get so far off base when my comment was so precisely worded. The fact is as much as I'd like to help you i might as well be trying to explain having lungs to a fish. The best advice i can give you if go do some shrooms or at least weed its sad for me to think that people seriously go through their entire lives in the dark about something so fundamental to what it is to be human
I just want to say, as I watched this video I learned SO much about how people view drugs. I'm a Christian and I've always been taught that drugs is a terrible thing and you'll instantly get addicted to weed if I smoke it once. (I've never smoked weed before). But when that guy said it's like being told to never have sex, it really opened up a door for me to think. Drugs and sex are HORRIBLE my parents say and I'm 17. My dad said he would kick me out if I ever smoked and had sex. I feel very sad that I'm just realizing that my parents are the wrong ones here.
you definitely won't get addicted to weed off of the first time you smoke it. That is a lie. I also grew up in a very similar household as yours and when I left and was able to explore things on my own. I found out some things just aren't true. People have different reactions to weed based on their bodies and the kind of weed itself. You can decide if you like it or not if that's something you're willing to try. I think it's also important to note why weed is given the criminality and negative image it's given (it has to do with fear mongering and racism among many things). All in all, question everything privately until you have a chance to find out for yourself.
To add to what tinbit said, don’t blame your parents for their misunderstanding. It was drilled into them just like you when they were young, it’s the only thing they know. They grew up in a different time, when “free thinking” wasn’t so free, and religion dictated most of what people could and could not do. It’s extremely difficult or even impossible for them to understand as they’ve been indoctrinated much like you almost were, except they didn’t have the internet to easily research things themselves in private, and fact check what their peers told them.
"Theres a lot of things I dont know about recreational drugs" *1 minute prior: biting off other people's heads because they dont agree with her because she feels like she's right regardless*
Inês Ramos she’s not questioning it she’s talking ab not needing drugs to become more spiritual with god that was her point and for him to ask her if she takes drugs or whatever he said and compare it to if you had sex, that was inappropriate to the whole conversation she never said that and when she answered him she simply said that those were two different things he should have said yes I do have a relationship with god and not have to show a necklace up in the air “ proving he does” so in the end she didn’t question his relationship intact he questioned her ab “ if you didn’t try how would you know” like my guy that’s the whole point she says she doesn’t need to try to experience it it’s her opinion and he should tell her otherwise
Any substance that can be misused can be an addiction. Your brain is addicted to the action of using the substance because it makes you happy so there for your addicted.
I don’t think she was trying to deny someone else’s relationship with God. She was just trying to point out the fact that wearing a crucifix doesn’t equate to having a relationship with God. E.g. having a picture with a celebrity does not mean you and that celebrity have a relationship or are close in any way.
@@emzostyles2318 When you make that statement after asking someone if they have a relationship with god and to answer yes they raise their cross you are 100% denying that persons "relationship" with god.