Makes sure you have golden rules, always bet with what you can afford to lose , never change your mind , and accumulators to win makes sure you have each way side bet , don't be guided by the odds ,don't take it to seriously . The bookie always wins is a true saying !!
@@BettingAnalyst I was speaking from experience after working for Bet Fred , William Hill and Tote , always started the day with a £50- £60 float and by the end I had £100s to £1000s pass through my till . Obviously that's many customers and not an individual. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work ✌️ 💯
@@Badger69-96 So many fools throwing their money away, Sad but true, And if you are more successful then I think the exchanges are and can be a better option
If you have a problem with gambling, stay well away from it, my friend. But there are ways to beat the bookies (bookies limit and ban 10's of thousands of winning punters every year) and there is more than one way to do it. If you have had a gambling problem in the past and want to make quick money back from the bookies (while not really gambling), look up arbing. You will make money before your accounts get shut down.
Yes - they get away with commercial rape! In Australia, they have the minimum bet law, which means a bookmaker must lay to lose a certain sum. While it differs from state to state and type of race - at least it gives the consumer some chance!
I remember long ago when I was winning a few bets in a bookie and the ridiculous cashier said to me I will be banned if I kept winning and LOL I was only winning a few quid, What an idiotic comment that was at the time and also these bookies it's hardly their money to begin with, If it wasn't for all the losing punters they'd not even have a business but they seem to forget that part when someone is more successful but they are quick to sponsor races etc etc though, Funny that! And gloat in all the billions
It's not just closure or suspension of on line accounts, I've had it on a number of occasions, I've really fancied a horse and it's gambled in before my eyes 5 minutes before the off, then I go to put a bet on it, and they say sorry technical problems, they direct you to all that crap of roulette and stuff, meanwhile I can't bet on my horse and I see a few minutes later it won easily, this should be stopped by the ombudsman, trouble is they have no teeth
Never bet what you can't afford ,don`t change you mind , don't be afraid to bet odds on , never chase losses and if you win early get the F out of the bookies before you give it back
One trick I use is on different accounts occasionally withdraw everything don't use it for a week or so and often they will offer u deposit match to get going again
When it comes to gambling, most people are losers. Then again, in day to day life, most people work for others. Entrepreneurs, business owners are high achievers, same as professional gamblers. Enough people make money from betting, but its down to the individual to carve out the right path.
Agree with your analysis except for one point which is cash out especially in football when you have predicted the right score and one team is looking for another goal
I am only interested in the maths of betting! When you buy a pair of jeans for $100, If you decide not to take them the shop will refund $100! If the bookmakers owned the same shop, you would get $70 back - and that's the same as selling out a bet! Cashing out (unless on the no juice betting exchange) is a rip off. It's a lazy persons way of buying insurance, with a bit fat bookies juice applied. If you wanted to get out of a bet, you would be better off covering on a betting exchange, or by shopping around with other bookmakers. For example, if you had bet on the scoreline 2-1, and that was the current stand look for over 3.5 goals. When a bookmaker is offering you $150 dollars for a bet that pays $200, they are asking you to lay odds 1.33. If that is the case, true odds will be nearer 1.18/5.50 - If you can get odds 5.00 on the opposite occurrence (do the maths!!) Can I just add, see it as a separate bet, in that you are convinced there is value in that occurrence happening. I would also suggest that you researched how many goals score after a certain time in games/leagues. You will be surprised by the answers! ps - bookmakers calculate injury time!!
I personally think if you’re in the situation of sitting in a correct score on the football and it’s 10 v 11 or like you say a team is pushing for another that the best option is to cover your bet by backing the correct score for another goal to be scored either way that destroys your original bet… for example I had a bet the other day which was a double with a team to win the game (it was 0-0 70th minute and they had battered the opposition on stats so I covered them at 10/11) then I had another team who were 3-0 up vs 10 men and still pushing for more (only 48 mins gone) so I covered them to score the 4th and they did score the 4th pretty quickly which left me on needing the first team to win for a winning double… that first team went infront around 78mins so the only outcome that screw me was the team that was getting battered equalising late on which Is more than a possibility on the footy so there game went 90 minutes and away team was still pushing so I covered the draw as an insurance now if the away team had equalised I would of lost everything but with a little cover bet it insured that even if the away team somehow equalised to screw my original bet I still would have won 90% of what the original bet was worth… The cover bet was 16/1 on the draw so I didn’t need to lay out big to cover my ass
Your welcome! - I wish that wasn't the case with betting (horses) the night before. Unfortunately, modern-day betting companies are cowards on a good day, and taking such an advantage would trigger them faster!
Sometimes cash out works in your benefit as when I had a third loser, I got more than my stake back as my third horse lost so the accumulator was invalid anyway so I judged right
STICK WITH THE MATHS 99% of gamblers are ''leisure players'' who are incapable of understanding sound reason. Nevertheless, the object of these tutorials is to tell it like it is! Irrelevant of how you want to interpret cash-out, the fact is its bad value. Bookmakers are in the business of making money, and they do that by offering less than it's worth. There is ''zero'' value in cash out! Laying off, hedging and learning how to use system bets is more beneficial!
Interesting about Each Way.. for a short period of time in the late 1980s there was a time when if a a race had an odds on favourite you would only get 1/6 odds for a place. When the race was a Monday afternoon novice hurdle in the autumn this happened quite often. After that rule was lifted it was always worth looking at place prices. The problem was most bookies would only take each way.
If you bet just place only, they seem to have reduced the dividends payout, it's a shame because a lot of my horses I know if they don't win they will place, it's a tough game
Lots of comments on here saying don’t gamble, can’t argue against that but I was lucky, from 2003 - 2012 at the beginning of the exchanges I made just under £700k tax free, mostly on place betting in handicaps, 90% simply on the draw when conditions were in my favour. Unfortunately the horse racing board brought in selective watering 🤷♂️. I’ve only had 2/3 bets since then and that was on football 😳
I pick better then tipsters with their info. Unfortenely overseas racing is better then in South Africa. Here by us the trainers, Jocks, bookmakers takes us to the cleaners. You good if you pick the right one. Overseas the Jocks looks like they don't really throw races😁
As for international races the problem is getting the coverage to get the right info , sometimes on this channeled they dnt even show race reviews especially for obvious races where they know we will place big money and win
The only way I survive online is to leave my balance in the account... Withdrawing my money would only achieve foreclosure of my account. I realise at best that I'm only slowing down my rate of defeat
Wise! A first withdrawal triggers a review - and thats the last thing you want! My other advice would be to make sure you have gone through the whole KYC process before starting to bet because when it comes to payout - it will go faster and without hindrance!
I went into bookies went up to counter and asked could l back a horse in here he said yes so l opened the door and said to my mate ok left a bit right a bit left a bit right 😅😅😅😅
I’ll tell you the ONLY way to win at playing horses and that is NOT PLAYING THEM AT ALL. Any one who tells you can win money playing horses is a certified fool .
I'm assuming you are referring to yourself! Just because one person can't win doesn't mean others can't! It's like with anything in life, some people are successful, and others are not!
Are you really so stupid ??? . My brother has the same opinion , and the reason he has that opinion , is because he can't do it , and if he can't do it , no one can . . . You carry on stroking ya nuts watching Eastenders .
The best people to answer that question would be Betfair, but they are unlikely to reveal such data! I believe ''substantial'' winners are around 0.01%, while another 0.1% are making five figures per month. If we drop down the pecking order, another 1-2% might be making the equivalent of a salary, while 5% will be hovering around no-mans land (breaking even), and the rest are losers. If we are being analytical, betting is all about your level of understanding! To play in the premier league (Exchanges/Asia) you need to be sharp. For the rest to profit, better stick with the lower hanging fruit (value/arbing/Matched). I know of many making good profits from soft books, and they do that by being able to get accounts and maintaining a strong network.
Alright, Smart Fella - Why would they be shutting down tracks? In the UK we don't bet into totalisators! Also, if we did, with PMU you are betting against everyday losers (such as smart-ass badcats). Finally - it's bettors - not betters! I'm afraid if you are just one of these plonkers who wants to go around abusing everyone - you will have to do better! Get a life!
I agree with u all I have done is chase my losses from 2002 I lost 100 thousand pounds on them by backing odds on favourites and those favourites the first horse I put 500 pounds was in 2002 called exclusion zone it was pulled up it ran at the 330 at Brighton second favourite won my friend Alan from Blyth introduced me to gambling . In 2002, I used to be a good saver before then
Just a question as a casual player/better. Would I still be at risk of being banned/gubbed if I use my own cash to pay and avoid the free bets? I am new to horse racing but I like to experiment with £1 bets. Thanks in advance.
With £1 bets you will never be gubbed! If they are deemed to be playing a straight bat, most bookies will lay successful punts to lose a few hundred. It's not because they are nice, it's because they want your marker. Also, using betting shops stops the ID trace, so that's another option.
True - but it's the same for eating right, staying fit, work ethic, and other day-to-day challenges! In my experience, once someone gets on the right path, confidence and discipline follow!
anybody what follows racing and thinks this is advice need to stop gambling ok if your just starting out .most online bookmakers best odds anyway so back it the night before you got to be near on a pro and lucky anyway to get stopped the normal punter is ok you are talking about big hitters and when you state cash out if a punter has a say a 4 timer and first 3 win and he is happy with the cash out offer take it he may be struggling with cash flow and football cash outs are the best thing that bookmakers have done its your choice if there is 2 min to go and your happy to lose a few quid cash it out more goals are scored in injury time now they can go on for 10 more minuets now var is in i personally have saved a small fortune with cashing out
1. Nonsense - You are either A. Bookmaker who encourages such stupidity. B. Someone who is just trying to have a laugh. C. A losing gambler! 2. First of all - this is for people who are expecting to win (not your everyday punter who wants to feed the bookie - the clue is in the title.) 3. Showing your naivety about cash-out is mindboggling - you are not considering them buying your bet back at a portion of its worth. 4. Betting the night before (racing) is a big no-no for any pro! Sure, if you are a net loser, do as you please! 5. If you are still getting best odds - it tells a lot about the minus (losses) in your betting accounts. If people want a bit of fun betting, good luck to them. However, if they want to avoid filling the bookies pockets play the game right!
do you no anything about football cash outs i have cashed big money out and been happy with the offer you state buying my bet back at a portion if you read what i stated i said just before the 90 minuet mark to take a small percentage out im talking decent money and for racing i go most days and no my horses i have accounts with most bookmakers and no how to use the system with small bets on the best odds and then at the course i will back the horse combining my odds i can guarantee you i ham not a net loser who are you aiming these clips at i have been gambling all my life over 50 years and i still make a profit would love to see your win to lose sinario i have seen many of so called pro gamblers come and go you are ok for aiming this at teenagers just starting out there no pro gamblers no more them days have gone and you no it ask dave nevison thats why he workes with racing tv they have all gone ive known many of them cant recall you at all
@@tonygarforth539 i don't care if it's the 94th minute when you are selling (cashing) out - You are still accepting lower than true odds! You say no pro gamblers - there is more than ever before! You say you win more than me - that speaks for itself. If I wanted to take the ego route the videos would look different. On TV - That's for people needing a paycheck. You don't see any ''real'' pro gamblers on TV because they don't need it! Take the owners of Brighton (Tony Bloom) & Brentford (Matty Benham) for obvious examples.
your talking about different kinds of gamblers im talking about pro punters in horse racing tony bloom made is money in stocks and betting on asian markets and worked with victor chandler and himself was a bookmaker i state to you again the days of the pro horse racing gambler is a thing of the past yes you get all these on you tube and social media sites like yourself stating pro gamblers i new pro gamlers over the years and still keep in touch with some and all agree with me maybe you get some stroogie on the betting exchanges making a few quid but betting has pro with bookmakers has long gone and you need to look more into cash out before giving people negative advlce for example football treble wolves winning 3.0 barnsley winning 3.1 chelsea winning 1.0 90 minuet treble would have fetched £875 cashed out £836 chelsea were 1.66 danny welbeck equalized last kick of game made it 1.1 im not talking cash out during game after so many minuets i am taking when the odds are in your favour and it does not matter the final outcome to lose a few quid or win big money and yes i have been limited with some bookmakers and going back to horse racing come on you seem to no something about the game dont take the 5.2 the day before take the 4.5 next day when the value has gone your logic in somethings you say do not add up in todays betting jungle and for cash outs i have known punters had thers stakes limited and also some who have had cash outs stopped thats the real world
It's been fun! I will leave it at this: If you are a winning punter (and there are many), taking the value the night before will get your account limited quickly. If you are going to cash out - do it on the exchanges for market price rather than the 70P in the pound that bookies will offer. Bookmakers remove incentives if you are winning, it's the first part of the restriction process. Many professional betting organisations are still using runners to place bets in shops. I could go into detail on what, where, and how, but some things are sacred! Furthermore, with the introduction of foreign racing, these online bookmakers have just one weapon (risk manager). They are useless and incompetent, and the likes of Bet365 started to pull racing in countries where they have ''zero'' chance. Be lucky!
I don’t meant to complain I tried to beat the system on horse by risking loads on them odds on favourites unfortunately I didn’t win . The bookies in the north east said we can’t take anymore big bets from me on Sunday, they said take a break from it. They said to me relax and go On holiday George . Have a break from it good job I didn’t back that step out. Otherwise I would have lost the bookies talked me out betting large on the horses . Otherwise I will have nothing left . .
At least that part worked - customer care. It sounds like you are addicted/chasing - at this stage its time to get help. Don't ruin your life through betting, its not for everyone!
Good video and very informative. The bit i find hard to absorb is the amount of accounts being closed down. You never used to hear much about this situation before. Is it because Punters are winning regular? Are they becoming more smart, savvy? Why is it - the obvious obsession to limit, close you down?
Thanks! The million-dollar question! Amongst other reasons, BOG (best odds guaranteed) makes betting companies extra vigilant! While it might sound great to the losing punter, even they can be mistaken for winners! Another factor is software makes it easier for customers to find value bets, but at the same time, such punters can be easily detected. I should also mention that most of the risk-management process is simply an algorithm which often makes them overzealous. Financial controls weaponized these companies, and it's being abused both online and in betting shops! Nevertheless, where there is a will there is a way! Many of the 3rd-party account users (racing) that I'm in touch with are still managing to get 7-10K per Bet365 account. I've even heard that the likes of VC and Betfred are allowing some scope! As with any business ''the bigger the problem you solve, the more money you will make''. If you are onto a winner, I would encourage rolling up the sleeves before diving into the deep end!
One thing I tell my mate don’t be greedy ,expecting 89 percent of a 12 horse race trifecta with only 4 runners is not a realty to me ,I’m hungry 🤤 not greedy ,take less percent stand out a few to win an extra to place ,he sees me get small shares in big tris I don’t aim for 89 percent of a tri I just want some 😂not all of it 👍but my account proves my form 😂you can lead a horse to water 💦 but you can’t make him drink 😂
Profits can be made but it takes up a hell of a lot of your time, hard work and years of trial and error to make ok money, not a fortune. Forget having a life tho because it's either full commitment or forget it. Tip: Never back a horse to do something it hasn't done before. Eg Never won a race. Class barriers. A horse that's only won up to Class 3 will really struggle to win a Class 2 and will never win a Class 1 yet owners still try.
For those with knowledge, finding wrong odds (value) is the biggest advantage. Betfair is only useful for late decisions (liquidity), such as when circumstances change in your favour. With Betfair, you are too reliant on how the market is trading at the time of the race, whereas with bookies the menu is on the table! With regards to closing accounts, where there is a will there is a way! Betting shops, and third-party accounts come to mind. In short, Betfair can be a useful tool, but you need to know when and how to use it. The fact remains, 95% of Betfair clients are losing!
I was thinking the same thing. I imagine Betfair couldn't care less if you're winning, because they're always winning no matter what. I guess if you're one of the 5% then you're golden. But I understand where Mr Betting Analyst is coming from, in the way that he plays the game.
Disagree about each way bets (with the caveat that you're backing the right horses). The bookies giving 5/1 or 4/1 odds for a place is not a precision tool in giving real chances of a horse getting a place, there is money to be made in finding that value that can offset the bookies advantage for the win (without it looking like arbing).
Of course - I am using generalisations to show how the bookmakers theoretical margin increases! If you know what you are doing, and the opportunity exists why not! There are 2-3 races today which offer massive each-way advantages. I did a video on each-way thieving!
Just a question- why is it so important to hide your bets and not draw attention to yourself? Will the online bookies take your account down if you’re betting the night before and consistently winning big? I only go for £3 stake doubles so I was just wondering 🙃
If you are losing or betting for fun you can do as you wish! However, the comment in this video is aimed at people who are hoping to make it pay. Bookmakers are quick to limit and restrict winning gamblers, and that's especially the case with racing!
If the winnings (only you know) are in your bank account - continue! However, betting is about the numbers; anyone who doesn't get that part of the equation will be stuffed!
@@BettingAnalyst Yeah, I bet e/w at Newmarket all one Summer. I didn't have many winners but the places meant I finished the newmarket season slightly ahead.
Start wi the cost please. Online bookies going BOG on day of race now. If you ve done 3 dbles & a treble & your 1st 2 win it makes sense to cash out the dbles & let the treble run
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever to anyone who understands the most basic of maths! Why make the 3rd bet if you are going to cash out? - Just do the double and two singles and your reward will be greater! BOG only applies to losing accounts - Once anyone starts winning that benefit is withdrawn!
I have lost 1 thousand three hundred pounds on a another odds on favourite on a dog the price was 30 to 109 on I have no idea why they are losing, when ever number 2 is favourite number 5 wins . Another horse that ran in Chester ran it lost . On the flat racing something wrong is going . They are letting 22/1 shots win I want to see favourites win again . They can’t seem to win anymore. This year I have lost 4 grand on those odds on favourites
One-on-one sport is easier again compared to team sport. With that said, for those who know what they are going, professional punters get higher margins out of horse racing!
Why would anyone bet. Even if you win these companies put barriers up to get your money out. The whole industry is a con. Why cant people see this. 😢😢😢
My bet is Rugby League handicap betting. All teams are trying to win you back your knowledge against the handicapper. Horseracing is corrupt only the bookies and money men actually know what's trying half the runners waiting for another day.
Rugby & the likes of NFL are good for handicap punters. the game is played to the end and the result is in line with superiority. With racing, it's important to understand what's going on. While it takes more knowledge than other sports, it's the most rewarding in ROI terms.
I've got to switch to comment on greyhound racing, you'll lose far less compared to horse racing...why? Because apart from slowing the hare down or stopping it, the greyhounds will run the race more fairly, I'm not suggesting race fixing is going on in horse racing of course
The average person will lose more (percentual) on Greyhound racing. Typical 6-dog (BAG) races are being offered at 125%, which would compare to around 112% with the bookies. As for using the betting exchanges, the liquidity is exceptionally low. Dogs can be stopped just as easily as horses, and in a low-prize money sport, there is a lot of skullduggery going on! For those of you with little knowledge who want to profit from dog racing - there are a few tips and tricks. One of them is to use Betfair as a guide (when they are approaching the tracks) and hit the shop bookmakers with those at over the odds. While you will be lucky to get anything more than a pony down (25), the FACES are usually right!
The reason why Ryan Moore should have won is because he was red hot favourite, two weeks ago he won the Derby and last month, he only wins when I don’t back him , when I back him he loses . When’ I lose the n a odds on favourite I start to feel sad . Can people really win in horse racing
Failing to understand the value concept is the biggest issue for most losing punters. They are easily sold on the favourite, falsely believing the jockey wins races! I will just leave it on ''you need the right mindset'', and blaming others for your losses isn't a good starting point!
Hi would you say it’s wise to back E/W on grand national. Thanks for your tips on betting. I usually always bet e/w but I’m not a professional like you. I still live your tips. And I enjoy going into the shop. Get a chance to meet ppl and share the gospel while having fun with the GG’s
In such a race, If you are betting the place (Each-way = win and place) on standard terms, you will be making the betting percent ''against you'' even higher. However, some bookies are likely to promote each-way betting with more places, then it's down to you! As a rule, i would only recommend taking the place part of the bet when it's higher than it should be, that happens mostly in novices/maidens when you get odds 8/11, 2/1, 5/1, 20/1 and 50/1+ on the others, The 5/1 is then ''evens'' a place, whereas it's true odds would be nearer 1.4 (example).
For the Grand National I'd still say it's best to back 4 or 5 horses to win rather than doing each-way, some bookies trick you by saying we pay out 6 places some even more, but they've shaved off the fraction, it's usually not 1/5 the odds, they give 1/6 or even less, and don't forget in fairly recent years the winner has come from the first second or third in the live betting market.
If your intention is becoming a long-term winner at betting - You won't be betting without an advantage. That means: Fixed odds only, or betting into big pools when receiving a massive rebate (volume players). If you are inexperienced/unprofitable at betting - stick with sports betting. Grab any value betting software, and simply bet the odds when the sportsbooks are wrong!
Today I backed Ryan Moore at ascot he lost on the first race . Whistle jacket should have won easily, it’s sad when I keep loosing on the odds on shots This was at royal Ascot , no favourites have won at ascot this week. Ryan Moore doesn’t win on odds on favourites like he used to do 14 years ago. Is he a apprentice jockey.
Why should it have won - was beaten ''fair & square'' and anyone betting a 10/11 shot in such a race needs to start thinking if betting is a good idea!
Like example there’s a horse called Nelda it’s had many goes, it’s never won yet has soon has I put my three thousand pounds on it the horse could lose or win a lot of money to lose they flop. Like on Saturday there was a horse called national sprit it ran at 645 sailsbury it lost I felt sad and depressed I had bad sleep. I was very I’ll on Sunday I didn’t go to the church or anywhere I went to the bookies they said no George we can’t take anymore big bets . I came back home happy . I bought myself a ice cream and a a curry from the restaurant.. gambling is not for me . I can’t seem to win 1 million pounds on it. This school teacher I heard on the in the internet lost 55 thousand pounds at the Cheltenham festival three years ago on a 10/11 on he was crying when he lost .
Today I put 85 pounds on a odds on favourite called Bentas that should have won it lost , I wonder how these odds on shots are losing . That horse has had lots of chances it kept losing it can’t believe my eyes. It’s very sad that they are losing . Can u really make money out of horse racing, I have tried for 22 years I have lost everything on it .
Why do you keep coming on here complaining? Only one person can be blamed for your losses - it's the same person that you see in the mirror! I'm afraid you need to quit - find a solution - or learn to live with the error of your ways!
Watched a complete outsider come first with odds of 22-1...the horse that appealed by name too. I didn't have time to deposit cash into my online account🙄 Why do outsiders come first, is it fixed?
It's difficult to fix a horse race because you need to get every runner involved. Long-shots (outsiders) win mainly due to unfamiliar form lines, e.g. the unbeaten favourite gets upset by the longshot who lost its last start to a future champion 😊.
Horse racing is entertainment, not a source of income. Gambling is our price of admission to keep the sport going. The only people making a profit are those with proprietary & exclusive data. You & I don't have that data. The people who had speed, pace, & power ratings before any such thing existed made millions. Today, everyone has those for free, they give no advantage. The takeout in horse racing is much to high to be beat. When golfers finish a round, the clubhouse doesn't give part of the money back if they had a good round. But in horse racing we get at least some of our money back. I went to Churchill Downs this summer, had a blast, & won $2 more than I lost. But I understand the takeout is impossible to beat in the long run. This is all for fun, not to make a profit. If you think you are sharp enough to beat the takeout, learn equity options, it is a lot easier to bank a profit.
You are speaking from a US stance, whereas I'm from the UK and we do things differently. Firstly, we don't bet on a pool. Secondly, we have bookmakers competing against each other with the odds. Thirdly, we have betting exchanges where the only juice is a 2% commission on winnings. For many, horse racing is a source of income! The problem is not beating the book, it's getting money down. That's the reason sharps are forced to use exchanges, hit betting shops (cash betting), bet through third-party accounts, or visit the track
I placed alot of my each way bets the night before last season to get the best prices as the next day the prices always went lower. 9 times out of 10 my bets either won or placed and I never got my account suspended or anything? So I can't really see anything wrong with placing the night before at the better price myself tbh
I suppose looking at what you do, the way you bet works fairly well for those horses that don't actually win, but are placed for you, but I think the author of this channel is looking more for winning horses rather than placed either by betting as a 'place-only' or 'each-way' bet
It´s so ludicrous that if you´re good enough at finding winners, or seeing value in the early prices, you will soon have no accounts left open. I would add a few tips: stick to races where the horses are of decent enough quality that they will run to their mark consistently; just ignore low grade races like sellers, claimers or classified races where anything can pop up. Oh yeah, and avoid any races where you see the name ´Williams´ next to the trainer´s name.
Which horse is the best to go for in handicaps. I want to make lots of money . Sometimes u get 25/1 shots coming in. Which one s are the best in handicaps .
Top weights are a good start, they aren't top weight for nothing, also course and distance winners, if not both, course only winners are still a very good starting point.
I did that betting the night before thus banned from 6 company imi struggling to find accounts online i do the 20pew on all outsiders and my personal picks. Usually win every day
My dad taught me cashout is a mugs game when i was only betting for fun, i had a 4 fold on, 3 had won and 1 was running later, i said think i may cash, he said why? If you wasnt confident on the 4th horse why pick it? Then pointed out if i had staked the same amount on just the treble i would have been paid more than the cashout was offering so he said well done by picking the 4th and wanting to cash you have saved the bookies money on the treble” from that point on i knew it was a scam!! (By the way i no longer back anything more than a double and thats rare, as i say at the time i was betting for fun now i take it more serious)
At the time of picking your fourth selection you was confident but in the mean time new information has now come to light and for new reasons you no longer fancy it this now gives you reason to cash out even at reduced returns.
Royal Nag thats a rare occurance im on about when you just want to cash out because you want the profits from the first 3, if for instance a horse needed firm ground and it pissed down for 4 hours may be different but if that was the case the horse would have drifted and the cashout would be crap
Betting Analyst he said same thing he said if you cash and the bet goes on to win your a fool and if it goes on to lose well you didnt deserve to win anyway🤣 he grew up having to go to bookies to get a bet on none of this online cashout stuff!
This video is of no use at all for U.S. horseplayers/gamblers. It's exclusively European/English. It's amusing to hear that "betting shops will close your account" if you are too successful. That has never happened in the U.S.!!!
Different system - Most US horseplayers are betting at track odds (PMU), whereas we get to bet at Fixed odds (with loads of competition, and plenty of wrong odds). In the UK, betting shops won't close your accounts because they (walk-ins) cash bets. While they restrict ''faces'' there are ways around that! However, the problem is with Online bookmakers, who are basically weasels (scumbags)! The ways to win in the UK are ''duck and dive'' in shops, use 3rd party betting accounts, and integrating betting exchanges. Incidentally, Betfair (exchange) is already allowed in New Jersey, so you can cut out bookmaker juice if you are in that State. In the meantime, if I was living in the US, I would start off by pruning all those bookmakers' bonuses. They won't last forever, and now is the best time to take advantage. In this video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VzGu4DyL9So.html&t you can see the US sportsbook bonus (time 5:38). Horse racing in the US is harder, albeit in Europe we can bet on US races with fixed and often wrong odds. Many syndicates are taking advantage of the bookie's lack of knowledge, and so exchange users. Personally speaking, i do the same with French racing because it suits my time zone better. Good luck
I have lost a lot of money on the horses on odds on favourites and on. Favourites, a lot of favourites are getting beat a lot, what’s causing all of this. There was a three horse in 1320 at Leicester today the favourite lost , the bookie said go for the favourite.
Betting an unproven novice hurdler at odds of 1/3 isn't the best idea. As for the bookmakers leading you to make the bet, that is not correct! Life and betting are about choice. Make good ones and you win. From an ROI perspective, there is nothing easier than winning from racing. However, it takes some understanding, and most punters lack the knowledge!
Can say that again the way I lost so much in this favourites I ended up hating the sport , it's like jockeys are bought or something , sometimes you see the jockey boxing a horse or choosing the rail run ( yes choice because you can see it allows for outside run ) even through he knows the track is hard to win from the rails , as for harness racing it's worse , you see a horse with the outside gate going in the inside ( boxing himself ) then fail to find room to get out , it's like fixing
I backed nostrum today that didn’t win. 4/6 I was surprised got turned over at good wood I put three hundred pounds on it is Ryan Moore a apprentice jockey. Nostrum was well tipped. I wished it had won .why does Ryan Moore lose when’s he’s odds on favourite. The bookies never tip on outsiders
The real question that you should ask yourself is why are you continuing to bet short odds favorites? While they might look good on Paper, you need to win a very high percentage of bets to make it pay. It's not for me to tell you how to bet, but it will hurt more when ''short odds' favorites lose you money! Personally, I'm always looking to lay what i consider to be poor value favourites. Mindset!
I agree with u . I read the form lots of times, those odds on shots are very hard to win on . A lot of second third and rank outsiders are starting to win . I forget number three Franki Dettori retiring this , I didn’t know he was riding today. It does hurt when I back those short odds . Two people tipped that horse . I believed them . I put big money on Ryan Moore in small fields . He never wins . I keep saying I’m not going to back Ryan Moore at 4/6 on . Someone in the bookie told me that , that horse has never ran on soft ground before. I have been backing favourites since 2002, I lost everything. The form doesn’t guild me . U said in the video u don’t give tips
Ref Cash out i think its only woth considering when you placed a small stake for a big return...ie £5 staked,potential return £500 and cash out say £350...
I realise you are only using an example, but 350 to 500 means you are accepting odds of 1.43 (between 2/5 and 4/9). If the bookies were willing to cash out on those terms, chances are the horse in question is about 1/5 and would have about an 83% chance of winning. If you wanted to get out of the bet, go over to the exchanges and lay a 100 - 480, then you are at least getting out with 400 if it wins, and 480 (470 after commission) if it wins! Betting is a pure numbers game, and a professional gambler's job is to squeeze every cent possible. Learn to beat the Bar stewards at their own game!
Why is it so strict in England with betting early in the morning and causing attention to yourself ? Another video mate was betting 1 pound and he was getting flagged I mean really are they that worried about it ? In South Africa we can bet how much whenever we want and it’s the way it should be not closing normal people accounts down becasue boomakers are scared of you know soemthing about a horse you get the advantage over the bookmaker that’s the game they always win it’s about time we do!!!
With regards to the UK - Where there is a will there is a way! For now, betting shops (runners) are a good alternative for racing. If you are betting nearer the time (liquidity), getting covered with Betfair isn't an issue! With South African racing, high take out PMU'S (pool betting) make it unviable for most! Also, South African fixed-odds bookies are not known for their generosity. In the UK these idiots are all trying to compete with each other (best odds + best odds guaranteed) and to do that they use risk managers to sniff out anyone with the slightest bit of betting knowledge. From a convenience side, Australia has it best with their minimum bet policy. All we can do is look for the gaps, and exploit the b......ds
Horses are a con. I see WAY TOO MANY 40/1 and 80/1 wins every week. No horse at 80/1 should be winning. That’s like a football team down 4-0 going into the 80th min type odds and they turn it around…please. It’s rigged. Especially when I see all these professional tipsters for Racing Post etc basically saying a 5/4 odd horse is unbeatable and he finishes 6th or something. It’s ridiculously inconsistent.
At the end of the day, it's going to depend on your results! If you are a winning punter and they see you are getting bigger odds by betting early - that is when you will be stopped/limited! For the majority of people (not winners) it's clearly no issue - it's just that the object of this channel is to educate people about becoming profitable!
If you can do some each way thieving - or get the advantage through increased odds for sure you can take advantage. However, in most cases the opposite is true, and i'm only interested in the maths.
The only way to beat the bookies is go in have 1 win and leave They will have it back with interest high interest. & Don’t return go & buy some scratchcards😂😂
There is no ''one size fits all'' - If you are using the exchanges with a low commission, a person with natural ability can beat the markets. However, you won't be able to get around ''low liquidity'' until the market becomes active (close to race time when all cards are on the table). You won't be able to ''each way thieve (shops), or spread early money. Everyone should be looking for opportunities, rather than trying to chip away with self-imposed (exchange only) limitations. Also, you should be looking further afield, like French racing because UK bookies are clueless and easy to expose! Think of using bookmakers like owning/operating a business in a country with loads of bureaucracy. There are loads of obstacles, but they are good for stopping people with no will-power. Don't be easily put off is my message, find a solution and make it pay.
Let's be honest - some people could have the best odds guaranteed, a 200% bonus, 6 places in a 16-horse race, and still lose! The BOG is only offered to long-term losers, but before that happens the ''blitzkrieg'' attack is possible. In betting, you want to take every possible advantage - no point in preaching how you assess odds and find value bets through opinion betting.
@@nutsaboutdance thanks , actually I'm doing 100 euro bets on 3 to 4 soccer match accumulation and most are coming in with good profit. I usually bet over 1.5 goals
I'm afraid not - I've never heard of ''Betting analyst Telegram'' - We own betting-analyst.com, but there are 100's of ''Betting Analysts'' on social media and nothing to do with us!
Because 99% of punters are serial losers - it doesn't mean you need to be part of that club. Many are making a good living out of betting, and good examples of big success are the owners of Brentford and Brighton football clubs. Nevertheless, a strong mindset is required, and we still need the losers to feed the system so we can extract!
A couple of options that could improve your bottom line (if you are good): 1. Look for turnover rebates at lower take-out (pool) tracks. 2. Find someone in the UK or some other parts of Europe to take advantage of the fixed odds being offered. Plenty of UK-based betting syndicates bet US, South African, and Australian racing with UK bookies and betting exchanges at fixed odds. Basically, you are then playing at lower margins against an opponent who is poorly informed. In the meantime, what about taking all those juicy bonuses you have in the US, and betting on other sports until payment can be taken (rollover). Depending were you are in the US, getting a good start should be easy.
