Pro Tools FANBOY Tries LOGIC PRO! 

Just my 2 cents, never normalize when bouncing, it´s kinda f'd up. The search thing sucks, but there´s a tool by plugsearch that solves the issue. Also, there are track groups aside from stacks/folders. You can make a custom plugins organisation and custom favorite folder which is quite helpful too. Also, one thing that a lot of people miss is that they think Aux returns can't be moved to wherever you want, you can, you just need to right click it and create track, that way the Aux shows in the editor and mixer, and you can move it around and also automate it. Automation is where i think Logic kills any other DAW I've used, it´s just super fast and friendly in that sense. Aside from the obvious tons of content, loops, presets and sounds. Cool video.

I mix in Logic full time. It's quite frustrating you can't search for plugins. Thank God there is a plugin called PlugSearch by Speaker Food! It's like $20 and has been a massive time saver.

“Who the heck makes gulfoss” Bro as someone who’s been using logic for 10+ years this summed up my biggest problem with this DAW lmao. I can’t remember who makes half these plug-ins 😂. Otherwise, as primarily a songwriter and producer I feel that this program is ideal for me and I absolutely love it. Sometimes I mix in ProTools but I find that a lot of the same tools between the two DAWs are just more intuitive in logic. That could just be bias from experience but as I get more interested and serious about mixing and engineering I have found logic to be more and more powerful and not hinder me at all. Anyways I am really happy I discovered your channel and I love your inspiring content man keep it up

They don’t have a search function, but you can move the plugins into the different groups ( Amps, EQ, Dynamics, etc.) from the plugin preferences and that makes it much faster.

can't believe they don't natively have a search function. I search in Reaper all the time so I don't have to go through each individual plug or manufacturer

I REALLY hope you can try out LUNA. I’ve been using it since it came out and I love it. Not sure if there’s a good way for you to still use your Burls with it though. You’re kind of locked into their A/D for the most part. Keep up the videos! We are enjoying them!

There's a feature in groups called 'quantize' that, from my understanding time alines your tracks to fix phase. Although the name is misleading. You can also right click a track in arrangement view to set it as a 'groove track', and then check mark which other tracks you want to quantize to the 'groove track's timing.

I've never used anything else but Logic, so this was the video I was looking forward to. I think your complaints are valid and would never argue with you on them. There are ways around the plugin search thing, but those require a third-party tool like PlugSearch or taking the time one afternoon to set up your own folder structure inside Logic's Plug-in Manager. Also, I didn't see you do it, but did you use the "Ping" feature in the IO plugin? That automagically sets the latency compensation for you. Since all my mixing muscle memory is Logic-centric, I get frustrated AF when I try to use other DAWs (like Pro Tools). So watching you get frustrated with Logic was a pretty accurate mirror image of how I feel when I use Pro Tools. :) I personally have no desire to change DAWs because I don't want to have to relearn a bunch of stuff. But Apple isn't messing around with the pricing structure of Logic like Avid is with Pro Tools, at least not yet, so the $199 I paid them 5 (maybe 6?) is all I've ever paid. Of course, they're getting their cut when I have to remain in the Apple hardware realm to use Logic in the first place, so there's that...

PlugSearch by Speakerfood lets you type in the plugins in Logic. But since Plugin Manager lets you arrange them however you want, it isn't as critical.

Hi there, being a heavy Logic user I can tell you that over time you stop using the Audio Unit folder to search for plugins. In the same way, you organize your studio to have everything on hand, you should organize your DAW in the same way. Logic hse the Plugin manager that allows you to create sub-folders and categories so you can quickly find the plugins you need. Also creating a library of pre-saved channel strips can speed up the process. Saved channel strips can be organized in folders too so you can easily and quickly access them via the settings button that is on every channel or the library.

An oddball one to try would be Reason. It's one of the last DAWs to add 3rd party plugin support and its workflow emulates an analog studio with racks and such. In past versions, you had to manually patch virtual cables as well.

I like the video, and I realize no one sits down at a new DAW and knows the ins and outs so this isn’t to be critical, but a few things. 1. Double clicking a plugin parameter will set it back to the default usually. 2. Double clicking the send level will set it to unity. 3. Drum editing in logic isn’t its strongest point, but you weren’t in flex mode to where you can do more with the editing features, like fixing bad hit points, fixing a hit being pulled to the wrong beat, etc. 4. Yea the plugin typing thing is annoying, however you can arrange you plugin menu to where you can organize your plugins into folders like “compression” and then just have all your go to compressors in that folder at the top of the menu. This helps speed up your workflow a lot, but yea, I agree typing would be way easier.

There’s a tool called plugsearch which gives you the logic search functionality. The same company also do a tool called gain control which gives you clip gain with keyboard shortcuts. Game changer.

I've tried several DAW, I compose my songs on Ableton but I've just tried Pro Tools for the first time. I have to admit that this software is the best for mixing projetcs by far.

Glad You finally tried Logic.

@6:17 Even though cutting some low frequencies might help in not overloading any hardware compressors, this will not do anything about aliasing. That's what the (analog) anti-aliasing filters inside your converters are for. (Depending on the implementation they might actually use a combination of digital and analog filters as well as oversampling.) The video you're referring to only applies to aliasing that occurs in the digital domain.

Logic... has Apple money backing it.... I mean... its great for my work flow.. And I dig it!

if you have a Mac keyboard you can use ALTERNATIVE + E so you can create a shortcut to the plot-in you use most!

I Started with Cubase and now I gest use Studio One, is very cool for me.

I have used some many different daws over the last 20 years and logic was one of the one I also never enjoyed using for mixing. I have been using Luna for the last month or so be use I already been a big UAD guy and had an Apollo. Luna is super fun to mix in and it does a few things that are just awesome. I think it still missing some stuff like hardware inserts and the fact that you have to use UA interface but maybe that will change in the future since they are starting to release native plug-ins.

...new Logic x is just fantastic, after trying cubase 12 and st1, still logic is my no1 choice, its rock solid rarely crashes and it has so many features...there is a third party plugin ,,plug search,, for logic, and it works just like pro tools and there is a logic x colorizer you can customize the theme with colors...regards

curious to see what you think on FL studio...

Any favourites from the DAWs you’ve tried so far?

Ive used Logic for around 15 years now. Its good but hasn't changed much in that time. I still prefer it over ProTools for most things but theres a lot that they need to get right I think. its definitely easier than a lot of the other Daws to get up and running fast... but its not fast to use straight away. learning what things do and where they are is ironically un-logical. But, say you have a mix and there are a few notes that arent very well played in. the quick sampler saves you all the time youv'e lost looking for plugins in your editing. So thats a big plus in that sense. was nice t see my home DAW being used :)

Can you try Harrison Mixbus 32C mixing?

As an avid Logic user, I am 💯 behind the displeasure of not being able to quick search your plug-ins. Honestly, I enjoy recording and creating in Logic....but I prefer to mix in ProTools (mostly because all my mixing classes in school were only done in ProTools) but I have mixed in Logic and it's not bad 🤷‍♂️

Which Bass plugin you've used to record the boomy bass section or is it recorded using a real guitar ???

Were you able to demo Logic or did you have to cough up the $199 for it, regardless? I'm a PT guy too, but a lot of my clients use Logic, so I'd like to get it, but seeing they don't have the plugin search is a no-no for me lol Cheers!

You have great hair...... another great episode !... gonna say it.. as an audio only DAW... try Resolve ?

you can make your own custom Folder with your go to Plugins inside and put that Folder first in your List. Boom 💥

A little off topic… but I would LOVE a video of you mixing POV (like the latest colt capperune video). I love those kind of videos & can barley find any (especially from a competent mixer.

I tried Logic for a while. Wonderful Daw but i decided to go back to Pro Tools. What bothered me was: 1. Muting a single voice of a multi membral instrumental was a hassle. Granted, it has loads of ways of muting. Just not a simple way of muting one voice of a multi membral instrument. 2. The mixer confused me. The sequence the tracks were laid out was not how the mixer was laid out. It did not make sense to me. I decided to not continue use it but still it's a wonderful Daw with loads of features. I can recommend it to composer/producers.

Typing plugins: Yes it's a great flaw of Logic. Everybody is asking for that. Actual Logic users, not those who use it once in a while, sort plugins by genres (rev, comp, dl, etc... even with subfolders for favorites), not by manufacturer. For your master bus or whatever channel strip and bus you want you can save configurations with your usual & favorite effects already on it. Click, load, done. Option-click to reset a value works in Logic but some 3rd party plugins don't implement that.

PlugSearch by Speakerfood adds the plug-in search function.

sorry i have no idea what was said in the video, the hair THE HAAAAAAAAAir 😂 😂 niiiiice cut dude

Atleast you can make own folders for plugins with own names, so you font need go to the brand name folders for everything

Give this man a Luna!! Thanks for these videos.

Logic is fantastic for creating and flushing out songs. If someone sends me a demo with just an acoustic and a vocal I can build out a song very quickly in Logic. But if I'm just mixing I'd rather use Reaper. haha

What about Luna from UA ?

as someone who used logic for so long, and have used it for work that it cant really handle (audio post) and what it handle great (film score aor any music production) I feel you woudnt like logic at all. 1st as a logic user, I hate that its automation is primitive, like its 2022 its still doesnt have preview automation or some sort, it doesnt have advance automation mode. doesnt have VCA spill like protools or some version of it like Nuendo/cubase. Yes group folders arent that. large projects will be hard doing and editng in logic. next is, all the updates it gets seems to be geared towards beat makers not realy much on the mixing, audio production etc.. Ayou can mix with any daw anyway, but if we are just talking about having advance things for mixing, logic aint it. Now for creating music, its one of the best, given its price, plugins and capbility.

who is the artist and what is the track name?

Use the Plug - In Manager to organize your Plug-Ins.

Been having to work in logic for some different projects, and it really feels 10 years behind all other DAWs I've worked with.... I get it for pre-production and songwriting, but for anything else, not my cup of tea

Man, you can create your chain of plug ins and then make a preset of it. So next time you just load the preset in your track and your are ready to go.

Do cakewalk

What about ableton live? It has unique editing features and very fast workflow but considered not really good for mixing

Please try LUNA 🙏🙏🙏

Geez you have a great head shape and hair ! Envious

About to jump the PT ship and switch to Nuendo, it’s 50% off right now which is a STEAL

Rubbing my hands together clicking on this one... I need to try out the opposite *EDIT: Im currently trying to shout tips at you through my monitor lol

Its been years since I really used logic. It looks like it got better. Back when i used it it had tons of windows with lots of pull down menus. Glad to see its gotten simpler. I still prefer cubase over all. And no I dont want to see Old Fart Daw "luna" its made for people living in the past. Maybe in 5 years it will be great, but right now its like using a digitized version of a 70's studio... thats not a bad thing if you make classic fart music, just not for me.

The fact that UA requires people to buy one of their interfaces to use their DAW is enough for me to not want to try Luna!

I’m a Logic Pro X guy

Yeah, very cringe. I fly through with Logic. The only thing missing is tab to transient but even that has a good workaround.

LOOOOOOOL "Who the heck makes Gulffoss!?" IKRight? #Freking small crap is so inferior and annoying. Being there every.effing.time.

after this one... make a decision and pick one and get back to work already...

What is so great about logic……I really would switch from Protools hdx for logic ….you have too much time on your hands …………..

Logic is a turd. Don't waste your time. Get Reaper and get on with it. Logic and Pro Tools are a joke compared to Reaper.

Sorry, but u decided to test two dinosaurs of DAWs trying to figure out which is best? 🤌