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Pro Tour Chicago 1997 - Max Suver vs Randy Buehler 

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@derekroberts5931
@derekroberts5931 3 года назад
So much better than watching arena. Real commentary.
@unvexis
@unvexis 4 года назад
"[Bolting the knight is] kind of a judgment call. I'm not sure why he would do that." -- Because with Necro, life was cards. Back then, any damage you could avoid taking later meant you could draw more cards instead. I hear drawing cards is pretty good.
@johnnyRandomadness
@johnnyRandomadness 8 лет назад
i wish magic was still played like this
@Hoopr32
@Hoopr32 8 лет назад
why
@TheSuperboy91
@TheSuperboy91 7 лет назад
with no sleeves? XD
@johnnyRandomadness
@johnnyRandomadness 7 лет назад
Idk just nostalgia lol
@Th0ughtf0rce
@Th0ughtf0rce 3 года назад
@@TheSuperboy91 With every card reprinted. Yes.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
You can play old formats in casual groups.
@EitherWayAnyway
@EitherWayAnyway 5 лет назад
Randy Buehler showing twitchy fidget kids these days you don't have to flip cards in your hand like a psychopath during every second of the game.
@hellasforever6242
@hellasforever6242 10 лет назад
Thanks for posting this! So good to see Necro work it's magic.
@47Mortuus
@47Mortuus 9 лет назад
So... Why did Necro get banned? Because its a 30 for 1?
@austindziengelewski6705
@austindziengelewski6705 10 лет назад
At about 15 minutes they say it's a miss play to block the beast. The announcers are wrong; with a Necro in play every life is a card. By blocking, he traded one card for 3. That's ancestral recall!
@dungeoncorporation
@dungeoncorporation Год назад
Dude counters Necro with a land at 11:00. Next level
@iclimbeverything2990
@iclimbeverything2990 Год назад
Force of scrubland
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
You can use proxies back then
@ryanbunce4572
@ryanbunce4572 3 года назад
I love how hand shuffling just didn't exist
@brads5690
@brads5690 6 месяцев назад
The beta dual lands on the table with no sleeves is terrifying. The mana base costs more than the 1st place PT prize!
@michaelbismarckii9139
@michaelbismarckii9139 9 лет назад
One of the commentator's voices reminds me of Edward Norton for some reason.
@anstytroll11
@anstytroll11 8 лет назад
it does sound like him alot
@Thebrianweissman
@Thebrianweissman 8 лет назад
It's actually me doing the color commentary, and I can actually hear the resemblance a bit to Edward Norton. Nowadays I don't think I sound quite like that, but it's an interesting observation.
@eyeforaneye8785
@eyeforaneye8785 7 лет назад
your commentary btw is just great. one kinda wonders why randy buehler is in the hall of fame considering all the horrible misplays he does (which I sure wouldn't have been able to see considering how noob I was at that time)
@Thebrianweissman
@Thebrianweissman 7 лет назад
Thank you for the compliments, hard to believe this was 20 years ago! Randy deserves to be in the Hall of Fame for sure. No player should be judged on how they play in a single game (we've all made horrible mistakes), and I don't recall him even making horrible misplays in this match. I will have to rewatch it to be sure of that of course, just wasn't my overall impression.
@kcsnipes
@kcsnipes 5 лет назад
One commentator I think is Brian hacker the other might be Chris pikula ?
@SpaceStormy
@SpaceStormy 8 лет назад
At 10:00 when Suver cuts Randy's deck you can see him motion towards the top and makes another cut. I think since the backs of Ice Age cards where of a different shade I think he was purposefully cutting him away from what might have been a Necropotence or Demonic Consult. Just an observation!
@Supernov4
@Supernov4 8 лет назад
+SpaceStormy This was common at the time, even at PT level. Marked cards all the way, I mean look at the bends on his cards too.
@Thebrianweissman
@Thebrianweissman 8 лет назад
+oR3Io Some people took it a lot further actually. Tomi Hovi and Olle Rade, both hall of famers, were notorious for using the various subtle differences in foreign print runs to their advantage. Sleeves were not mandatory, so both of those guys filled their decks with four-ofs from different editions and languages. It was a brilliant exploit of sorts, completely legal at the time, so neither can really be faulted for taking advantage of it. The early days of the Pro Tour were definitely the Wild West.
@Renataki_
@Renataki_ 8 лет назад
wild wild west of magic.sounds crazy...
@DDRaHolic
@DDRaHolic 8 лет назад
Interesting!
@tonywalk4146
@tonywalk4146 6 лет назад
That's gotta be Weisman on play by play :)
@kcsnipes
@kcsnipes 5 лет назад
Tony Walk I thought hacker pikula cause those the only other payers i know of
@krewkid82
@krewkid82 5 лет назад
Yep that is definitely brian weisseman
@bariltrailette
@bariltrailette 4 месяца назад
What is the Last randy tournament?
@davidchampclos2473
@davidchampclos2473 2 года назад
Quand un deck est trop puissant ...
@nicholascanevit4193
@nicholascanevit4193 8 лет назад
is commentary echoing???
@HollywoodModelling
@HollywoodModelling 8 лет назад
Does suver honestly cast a counter spell that's a land with counter spell written on it????
@RomeroGrinerdam
@RomeroGrinerdam 7 лет назад
If I knew it was possible I would have played some pro tours back then.
@dessyyyh
@dessyyyh 6 лет назад
It's a proxy. Proxies have always been tourney legal
@Sneakz29
@Sneakz29 6 лет назад
A judge can give a player a proxy to use on certain conditions
@bedpicnic7889
@bedpicnic7889 6 лет назад
Is Brian Weissman one of the commentators?
@mybiasedopinions4793
@mybiasedopinions4793 5 лет назад
Judges would make people use proxy if they deemed certain cards too damaged and therefore marked. Player's were required to de-sleeve their decks in the early days of video recorded Magic tournaments.
@TankP0wnz
@TankP0wnz 10 лет назад
Why at around 10 minutes after Randy fetches a land he puts a land aside and someone hands him another one?
@deadnoobie2859
@deadnoobie2859 10 лет назад
The land fetched was a Plains that was a proxy for Scrubland. Buehler didn't want to be shuffling with the Scrubland (it wasn't his and was lent to him and was given to him after his win) in deck so a proxy for it was put into the deck and when he fetched for it it was replaced with the actual card. Right after that you can see Suver's hand where there is a Plain's with the word Counterspell written on it as both players were playing with proxies.
@TankP0wnz
@TankP0wnz 10 лет назад
Okay thanks that makes a ton of sense now
@markvankempen1437
@markvankempen1437 5 лет назад
@@TankP0wnz does it? ;P ;P
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
Proxies were allowed then just like they are now in non sanctioned vintage events , as it should be!
@mybiasedopinions4793
@mybiasedopinions4793 5 лет назад
Man look at those Beta Dual Lands and Islands no sleeves LOL
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
We didn’t use sleeves then . In 1994 I was playing in the cafeteria in school without sleeves, and I had power in my decks AND DUALS
@mikelong2756
@mikelong2756 5 лет назад
Someone call 911, these cards are being thoroughly abused
@inspirationalquote3645
@inspirationalquote3645 5 лет назад
Those bent dual lands, force of wills etc in Suvers deck make my skin crawl.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
Cards were cards then, just to play the game- not hoarded treasure
@yosemitemoyemite4470
@yosemitemoyemite4470 Год назад
Reprint the reserve list.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
Agreed
@phatbastard0alkaline
@phatbastard0alkaline 10 лет назад
No sleeves, it hurts :(.
@blacknotations
@blacknotations 9 лет назад
phatbastard0alkaline i know :( i double sleeve any cards worth $50+
@AnsticePalo
@AnsticePalo 8 лет назад
+blacknotations Then you wouldn't have double sleeved those cards because they were worth less than 10 dollars by this point in magic. It's 1997, Lake of the Dead was worth more than revised duals.
@anstytroll11
@anstytroll11 8 лет назад
+AnsticePalo this is when magic was perfect and every one could afford it...now the game is shit imo
@sergiolandz6056
@sergiolandz6056 5 лет назад
@@anstytroll11 got that right !
@gustavo6059
@gustavo6059 5 лет назад
What a horrible card was Phyrexian War Beast, I do not understand why it was fashionable then to put it inside the decks. They made shit the land to Suver, lol
@markvankempen1437
@markvankempen1437 5 лет назад
It had really good stats if you were beatdown. stats that went beyond 1power/1mana were quite efficient: Black Knight, Ironclaw Orcs, Woolly Spider, Ernham Djinn. All 'very efficient'. Phyrexian War Beast: same story. Though it makes less sense in such a superslow deck...
@egeozdemir4127
@egeozdemir4127 Год назад
This creature looks like a bad card by today's standards. Back in the day, it lived through some of the premiere removal spells of its day (immune to Terror, four toughness for Lightning Bolt). It's stats were very aggressive for creatures during this time period. That said, Suver may have wanted to sideboard them given how poorly they lined up against Disenchant.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
Creatures in general were bad then
@puffykilled2pac
@puffykilled2pac 11 месяцев назад
Power creep hadn't ruined the game yet.
@leolou6632
@leolou6632 8 лет назад
=_=playing volcanic island naked handed
@doudoune8035
@doudoune8035 8 лет назад
+Lou Leo Yeah, such a heartbreaking sight...
@anstytroll11
@anstytroll11 8 лет назад
its just cardboard this is wen magic was played as a game...smh i wish we could go back when trading cards were fun and everyone could get the cards they wanted and play instead of what it is now...rip fun magic
@Renataki_
@Renataki_ 8 лет назад
yooo i agree but its pretty wild to think no one cared to protect cards lol
@dR3F
@dR3F 7 лет назад
Well, if you also forget that many if not most of those year's most dominant players were found out to be cheaters... So much for "fun". But yes, dual lands and other huge cards were more easily accessible.
@toddlowrey189
@toddlowrey189 7 лет назад
Oh get over it lol
@piggsy9349
@piggsy9349 7 лет назад
0:15 i love mtg ive been onto it since 1998 but every time i see Randy's face at this point i realize that 90% of mtg players are douche bags...i still play anyway.
@georgeasimakos1744
@georgeasimakos1744 6 лет назад
LOL I didn't even notice that until I read your comment. Hilarious.
@Daniel-cv3dn
@Daniel-cv3dn 5 лет назад
I don't see how making that face implies that he's a douche bag. Am I missing something???
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 11 месяцев назад
You don’t even know what they were saying.
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