Pro Tour Eldritch Moon Finals: Lukas Blohon vs. Owen Turtenwald 

Thank you! I actually enjoy the Wizards of the Coast coverage but I can't stand their bias towards certain pros.

When did this happen? That's all in your head. I didn't hear any bias. I do think it's unprofessional having a guy who was competing (LSV) do commentary.

well, they need to cover the fact that a cheater is now in the Hall of Fame. He got 2 warnings cause he cheated on Emrakul, almost a game loss

They were talking about him /Owen) because he won POY at that PT and got elected to the hall of fame. It seemed fine to me, they talked enough about both of them.

Hans Vader, a misplay doesnt equal cheating. Happens to the best of us and its not fair to throw around false cheating accusations.

Actually, it was a bad read of the metagame. It was definitely not an optimal version- wrong removal choices, wrong numbers spread across side and main, etc. The fact that he beat Emrakul was adorable but less based on the deck. However, after undergoing fine-tuning, the deck is now a pillar of Standard.

Was personally only down on it because it has minimal impact on G/W tokens, but that deck just died, so... Yeah, Lili's sweet!

What I'm really not looking forward to is playing against Emrakul. Card seems unbeatable in MOST situations.

Dies to tragic arrogance, planar outburst, ruinous path, declaration in stone, foul tongue invocation. Not to mention you can straight up counter it, and there is now a 4 mana counter spell that also counters abilities on the stack in Summary Dismissal. There are also several act of treason spells that allow you to take control of their emrakul and kill them with it. I wouldn't even say half situations with this card are unbeatable. If you've watched all of the PT you would of seen several times where people lost while resolving 1 even 2 emrakuls. I think you're being a bit silly, comrade.

the problem is most answers can't be played reliably on emrakul cuz most of them would be played on your own things or wasted during the turn it takes from you and non-instants that can be played during the opponent's turn are limited.

I was one of the few who believed she was a great card. Everybody else hyped Tamiyo which I thought was meh. People tends to think that Tamiyos emblem is OP, not really realizing that it needs card draw to even be useful. also, when (and if) you manage to pull it of, mana usually is no issue anyway.

Wait what happened?

@@thanhavictus He was briefly a member of the Magic Pro League in 2019 before being removed following sexual harassment accusations from women in the Magic community.[5] He has not participated in any Wizards of the Coast sanctioned Magic: The Gathering tournaments since the incident.

@@thanhavictusThen he tried to play hearthstone failed at that then supposedly switched to poker but has been radio silent for the past 4 years

Wait, I thought Owen quit magic himself, not that he was banned. I know Yuuya was banned

@@yaboi5954 Owen Turtenwald was life-time banned because he was sexually harassing women and giving handies to Marshall Sutcliffe in between rounds to boost the amount of coverage he got at PTs.

@@yaboi5954 additionally, if you listen to the commentary carefully, you will hear Marshall Sutcliffe gag from time to time. It's the tip of Owen's peeper hitting the back of Marshall's throat. No shame in their game ya know.

@@yaboi5954Ofc he got banned lol Why would a Hall of fame elect quit lol

Owen has come a long way from his crap attitude and no one in this position is going to be happy about a loss. Now I do think he needs to grow up and move out of his parents home, but try to show an ounce of respect to someone who is this good at Magic. Lukas just had a better deck, a better draw and played flawless this time. Both are great players,

Whats the timestamp for the PJSalt? I think I missed it.

I am missing something, Turtenwald hasn't shown any outwardly negative feelings about this game loss. If anything he was actually very polite throughout the games. Is there a timestamp for him getting angry?

@@Intoxicatedmetaand now Owen is a disgrace 🤣🤣🤣🤣

where is the salt in the video? timestamp please?

its just there, him getting his things and leaving the area in about 2 seconds, and that quick little hand shake, he was so salty, really hilarious actually

Well I mean this is his goal in life. It's been his dream for a long time and to be this close and lose is rough.

+Clint Martin Sure, but that doesn't excuse being a bad sport about it.

@@clintmartin3090and look where he is at now 🤣🤣 literally nowhere

I knooooooow

Sean Cox we suck

LOOSEING

lol

Luca Scanu That one's good, you should still work on the definition of loose and lose

118bone I know the definitions, i just spelt it wrong, i'm not really too concerned about my spelling in a fucking RU-vid comment.

Luca Scanu I'm doing this because it's best for you, I'm your Yoda

I used to be in the same boat. He's kinda won me over with time, though.

Yeah, you can't really judge a person by their public persona. Especially in a world like MtG, which isn't "real" celebrity, but mostly awkward nerds that find themselves with fans.

haha haha that slight loss of reality with Owen working in the salt mines while everything else was serious made me laugh to hard, didn't see it coming

Even then LSV's persona isn't awful, he always came off as a nice guy.

I see comments like this sometimes and I will just never understand lmfao. I've been watching LSV on coverage since pro tour gatecrash and have never ever once thought he was anything except the best commentator and best personality by far. Although Simon Gotten is my favorite player (pro tour champion as well) and he does fantastic commentary too, I can at least see why some folks wouldn't like him. He does have a German accent that could trip up some stereotypically ignorant Americans, and he is extremely analytical about the game, making everything seem like a pure calculation. But I literally cannot think of a reason anyone would dislike what LSV puts forward on coverage lmfao

Day's Undoing, perhaps?

Learn From the Past works too

You can use Dragons of Tarkir, Magic Origins, Battle for Zendikar, Oath of the Gatewatch, Shadows Over Innistrad and Eldritch Moon. :)

And when is the next expansion coming out? Can i still use those 6 expansions you mentioned?

At the end of next month kaladesh comes out and I think that rotates origins, and dragons of tarkir

Marvin Schramm BFZ and up

nm it is updated, i failed to read.

Cuz he is an arrogant autistic nerd lol

xTehMoonlight yuk yuk yuk

1/3 games tho. First 2 were good.

I stopped following tournament coverage a couple years ago. Is Owen a douchecanoe or something? I've seen a number of people rooting against him and it feels like they have a good reason.

I honestly think Owen is a cool dude, I don't understand why people hate on others anyways. Being happy someone lost ist just being a total douchebag.

He's just an asshole to his opponents on coverage. For example, in the last round of the Swiss, the guy he played against was trying to be friendly and talk a little while they played. He didn't even acknowledge him. By acting this way, he is basically advocating for this behavior. Players who are newer to the game and that look up to the pro's will think that's how you are supposed to act while playing competitive Magic. You can be serious and not come across as being a dick. Look at Reid Duke and LSV. I've never heard a bad story about either of them, and both of them are extremely successful.

I still want to know this!!

@@DeafeningWalrus APAC lands. very old and beautiful set

twice xD

still searching for it. got a foil Liliana at least. :)

I preordered the emblem when I pulled Lili at the prerelease XD

Damn, that sucks, but also meant that he spent a pretty penny for those cards.

Stephan Wyrsta It was a draft tournament. It cost him $15.

+darkchiron I'm confused, did your opponent get one at the draft?

+Stephan Wyrsta Yes... I was playing him at the draft. He kept drawing his 1 Liliana.

+darkchiron Personally, I would have suspected some cheating.

Ultimate price says only monocolored creatures, tokens have no color

Noodel I believe those zombies are black.

Actually most tokens do have a color assigned to them at creation, 1/1 White Spirit Token, 1/1 Red Human Token, 2/2 Green Wolf token, etc

JustAnotherPest good

Especially game 3, but it was his decision for keeping his hand.

It was a tough choice, but I think you're right; I wouldn't have kept that hand either. But then, I'm not a pro, so I can't really say that my decision would've been better.

I would have been at table flipping honestly. Every magic player has been there with the two lands and just needing the deck to cooperate. I find it annoying enough at FNM, I can't imagine how bad it must feel to lose when it costs you $20,000 and a pro tour title.

Without taking any credit to Lukas, amazing top 8, and congrats to Owen he achieved so much

And Gideon. Everyone always forgets about Gideon

+Sole Servitor Is that how you pronounce it?

It's just the sleeves. Which are Ultra Pro, if I'm not mistaken. Utter crap.

Patronux Lukas has ultra pros. It looks like Owen is using dragon shield

it was almost painful to watch.

He should have been in the finals, Too bad the judges were cowards when it came to telling turtenwald to pack up

What happened ?

In Luis vs Turtenwald, Turtenwald miss summoned emrakul twice, and never got punished. He was in fact given a warning that should he mess up one more time he will be given a loss. But those 2 times he miss summoned Emrakul may have actually led to Luis losing. You see in this Pro Tour 1 turn could change everything. and he did it TWICE

Maybe luis would have still lost. But I still call bullshit that he got out of it.

Did you even watch the game? It is the difference of having three lands untapped or four, not the difference between being able to cast it or not. You do no get punished for making play mistakes, you get warnings. He got two warnings. What more do you expect?

It is because of the false god identities on Zendikar. Emeria was female on Zendikar, while Cosi and Ula were male. So Emrakul is called she still, while Kozilek and Ulamog are he.

Standard is so trash that a -2/-1 plus 1 won the pro tour. Yeah... I wouldn't say that says anything good about standard.

I will say this i prefer standard now to standard back when infect was standard because all you saw was the same 4 decks going against each other. Now you see 5 to 6 different decks some have similar play styles while others are completely different

Didnt even see the Trash comment, I disagree completely, Standard is nigh on completely diverse right now. And Liliana proved to be a game changer every single time