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Pro Video Editing on iPad Pro M4 with FCP 2? Hands-on at Apple Event 

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At the Apple launch event at Apple UK HQ in Battersea Power Station in London, I was able to have a hands-on with the newly announced iPad Pro M4, as well as preview versions of the upcoming Final Cut Pro 2 for iPad and the newly announced Final Cut Camera app which allows a feature called "Live Multicam".
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@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Can you see yourself editing on iPad?
@tomjkelly
@tomjkelly 3 месяца назад
not without a mouse as I think that works best for most stuff and I wouldn't like finger prints all over my edit screen. Maybe using it as a second screen on the move but not worth the price of a new pro one just for a extra screen.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
@@tomjkelly Depends... their new implementation of OLED looks staggeringly good. This might be a great preview screen on the level of much more expensive pro studio monitors... we'll try to test this
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
@@tomjkelly Also you can use it with the trackpad and possibly an optional mouse if you prefer, so I don't see a lack of choice to operate it here. Nino
@tomjkelly
@tomjkelly 3 месяца назад
@@CineD Yes the screen looks very promising and good monitors are expensive anyway. Good news about being able to bypass the touch interface. Thanks Nino
@4thwalltvandfilm
@4thwalltvandfilm 3 месяца назад
I would love to have the option of starting an edit on the iPad and possibly finishing something simple. Touch sounds really cool but in practice it might be much more difficult than using a mouse for editing tasks. Are there shortcuts on iPad Final Cut?
@ramoncastillo532
@ramoncastillo532 3 месяца назад
The Final Cut Camera app Live Multicam is so cool i don't really have a use for it but cool software nonetheless.
@alphaartisan
@alphaartisan 2 месяца назад
Is it on the App Store? I didn’t see it.
@ramoncastillo532
@ramoncastillo532 2 месяца назад
@@alphaartisan it’s still not in the App Store they will announce when it’s coming
@syneman1
@syneman1 3 месяца назад
Apple needs to really make iOS more "Pro" too. The power is definitely there, but the app development is hindered due to memory allocations and limitations in the system software.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
It'll have to change, I agree... there will be a point in time where iPad OS will have to be more accessible / versatile than iOS on iPhone, and I don't think there's a really good reason they're both essentially the same now. Tablet sales have been falling for years due to better phones, and only more versatility in the iPad OS could potentially stop that. My 2 cents. Nino
@syneman1
@syneman1 3 месяца назад
Yeah, basically why not just give iPad OS style ( someway to merge it ) capability for those who want it and IOS version for older and less powerful iPads.
@StreetDocs
@StreetDocs 3 месяца назад
I pretty much cut and author everything on iPad. It needed this update, though.
@smashpop
@smashpop 3 месяца назад
thats me at 0:45 !
@JudgeFredd
@JudgeFredd 3 месяца назад
More impressive than expected
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
I agree
@cbools
@cbools 3 месяца назад
“First time Apple has allowed non-employees in” is incorrect. Last November I had the pleasure of going in myself for an education event. We were one of first public groups to go in. Such a beautiful building.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Good to know! That's the information I had. Nino
@StreetDocs
@StreetDocs 3 месяца назад
So does Apple own the power station? I’m a bit confused.
@ShawnCaple
@ShawnCaple 3 месяца назад
What was the make and model of the sad drive they used in the FCP example? I’m curious of the read/write speed.
@DavidKhabinsky
@DavidKhabinsky 3 месяца назад
Looks like the LaCie Thunderbolt Drive.
@ghas4151
@ghas4151 3 месяца назад
LaCie Rugged SSD Pro. Speeds of up to 2800MB/s. I have the 2TB model.
@postpros-e
@postpros-e 3 месяца назад
How is not *_any_* Thunderbolt SSD more than fast enough for anything you could possibly want to do on _an iPad_ ? 🤨
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions 3 месяца назад
This is the kind of innovation that FCPX needs to differentiate itself and regain popularity amongst professionals. Nevertheless, it is still some way off from achieving that goal and knocking off PremierePro off of its pedestal. Apple need to either create a special 'sync box' (for want of a better term) that can connect to professional cameras in order to be able to do the same thing. Either that, or take advantage of the Wi-Fi connections that modern cameras tend to have these days. I don't know what would be the easiest, cheapest and most effective method, but I think that you can see what I am getting at. It really all depends on what audience Apple is now targetting with FCPX.
@PSy84
@PSy84 3 месяца назад
Apple targets new users like high school and college students...esp they are familiar with iPhone
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
You mean "sync box" to use the Live Multicam feature with cameras? I agree, I hope they'll make this possible for third parties by giving an API for Final Cut Camera. Nino
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 3 месяца назад
Aside from the multiple iPhones no one just carries around. The multi cam idea is cool. But Final Cut pro on the ipad seems amazing for beginners/college level and even sone professionals. If only film making was this accessible when I was a high schooler.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Yes it's limiting to have this work only with iPhones, however if you think about it, various people on a crew / office usually have iPhones, and if they can be used spontaneously for some of that content, why not. But surely it would be great if Apple had an API to connect their phones with cameras!
@kinocchio
@kinocchio 3 месяца назад
Is fcp2 better now than lumafusion?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
we'll find out in our test!
@SanSan-lb9iv
@SanSan-lb9iv 3 месяца назад
What does that slightly less thickness of the ipad have to do with video editing on the go? Does video editors really have such tiny bags that cannot accommodate 1 extra millimetre of the ipad? So longer battery life and larger screen size, durability are not more important?? Tell me you are not going to add a protective case to the new ipad you just bought. Then complain that your Apple Pencil does not work on certain part of the screen because the digitizer malfunction because the ipad Flexed due to the thinness and Apple care charges you more to replace it.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
I agree that usually the "race to lighter / thinner" products is not always the main concern for pros, power and endurance definitely is. However in this case, the previous 12.9" iPad Pro was definitely too heavy to hold in one hand for extended periods of time, and that's not the case anymore. Which means you can really edit on the go as a content creator... for pros I see this more as a fast turnaround way of editing at events / weddings or to get a preview edit while on set with a corporate client, and then you can finish on the Mac when back at the desk. Nino
@sachi7x
@sachi7x 3 месяца назад
Gonna watch it later again
@savrah
@savrah 3 месяца назад
M4 for watching RU-vid and surf the web.
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 3 месяца назад
That’s probably 99% of what people who get them do. I still have the 2018 pro, would love to use final cut and logic, but I’m not paying monthly for stuff I already have on my mbp.
@jcophoto75
@jcophoto75 2 месяца назад
Thanks for a good review and added perspectives. Did Apple say when the new FCP for iPad will be out. Glad to hear it was not only a rewrite but also seeing how the Apple Pencil is used is a very needed feature.
@CineD
@CineD Месяц назад
They said “later this spring“. It will be very soon.
@fty-ys4ni
@fty-ys4ni 3 месяца назад
Editing from an SSD should have been included with the initial release imo. Better late than never. Are all these new Final Cut Pro features exclusive to the M4 Pro models? Or will previous iPad Pros be able to utilize these features with a simple Final Cut Pro software update?
@alexanderfelke
@alexanderfelke 2 месяца назад
Stupid question, I can’t find the Camera App on the App Store, is it restricted to US only.
@CineD
@CineD 2 месяца назад
Hi @alexanderfelke. The App should be available for download later this month. Thank you!
@revmatchtv
@revmatchtv 3 месяца назад
Interesting. I use Premiere for my workflow, so it's not really practical to move to another editing app which breaks my workflow entirely. Very cool, but just easier to edit on a laptop.
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 3 месяца назад
Yes, this is great hardware, but useless.
@PSy84
@PSy84 3 месяца назад
@@nnnnnn3647for you😂
@rogeriogomesosorio4755
@rogeriogomesosorio4755 3 месяца назад
When the camera app will be out? The major problem with the Final Cut Pro app is that is subscription based… for that reason I bought the daVinci resolve app
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
They said, "later this spring", so it can't be too long.
@sebmonti5904
@sebmonti5904 3 месяца назад
$5 a month isn’t gonna kill you
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions 3 месяца назад
@@sebmonti5904 Speak for yourself!
@framedthunder6436
@framedthunder6436 3 месяца назад
@@sebmonti5904 npc people:
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 3 месяца назад
@@sebmonti5904it’s not the point. You never own it fully offline. That’s like saying “Oh I don’t mind spending $5 a month on heated seats in my car (a real thing) because it’s only 4 months out of the year”… It’s especially hard to swallow when people like me who already OWN both logic and fcp already. It would be noce If they had a one time purchase option as well…Gotta stop that simp mentality, bud.
@theinfinate
@theinfinate 3 месяца назад
do they have speed ramping yet? I use Vn video video editor which is free and the best speed ramping tool and key framing smooth curves. I dont see a reason to subscribe yet
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Don't know. Will test!
@xoMelaninSunflower
@xoMelaninSunflower 3 месяца назад
I hope all FCP users get the scene removal feature, I will have the 13 inch Ipad but I refuse to buy FCP again just for that feature
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
I'm sure it'll come to desktop too. Nino
@flippantfishtaco3132
@flippantfishtaco3132 2 месяца назад
Was hoping for a lot more review of FCP.
@CineD
@CineD 2 месяца назад
It's not out yet, we only got a hands-on at the demo event. But we will work on a full review of it soon, once we get to use it.
@4thwalltvandfilm
@4thwalltvandfilm 3 месяца назад
Cool video, Nino. It's greast oget your perspective as you are a production guy .. and youtuber not just a youtuber. What did you shoot this on? was it an iPhone or iPad Pro by chance?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
It's a mix between iPhone shots and (predominantly) Sony a7s3
@suchnerve
@suchnerve 3 месяца назад
But does Final Cut Pro 2.0 for iPad finally add support for captions/subtitles?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Good question - I saw a little icon in the corner hinting at that function, but upon asking, I was told, "we don't have anything to share on that right now". We'll see.
@anderbeau
@anderbeau 3 месяца назад
Great. Both my 1 yr old M2 Ultra Studio & M3 MacBook Pro are ancient 😂 - and why... Why.... WHY is MacOS just not on the iPad Pro Apple - WTF?!!!!
@WeatherZone411
@WeatherZone411 3 месяца назад
It’s an iPad. Buy a Mac. LOL
@marcteleki2801
@marcteleki2801 3 месяца назад
Is the Final Cut Pro 2 live multicam be available for the M1 and 2 thanks.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Yes
@chennyye28
@chennyye28 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing, and I am wondering if the Final Cut camera can by pass the oversharpening on the none pro iPhone?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Good question, but we doubt it ... surely only the Apple Log mode will continue to do that, and that's only in the Pro models.
@chennyye28
@chennyye28 3 месяца назад
@@CineD That's a bit pity, if compared to log and less oversharpening, I might lean towards to a footages that's less DR but looks not artificial oversharpening...the only reason prevent me from get a colorful energetic none pro iPhone...
@marcteleki2801
@marcteleki2801 3 месяца назад
Can I ask is the Final Cut 2 only for iPad Pro m4 or is it available for all m processor I have the M2 ist going to work on it thanks.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
It's going to work on it too
@gr2d
@gr2d 3 месяца назад
The new final cut pro is used on previous Ipad pro 6 ?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
It'll work on the previous one too, if that's the question
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 2 месяца назад
Awesome & Thanks :)
@rodriguezahr
@rodriguezahr 3 месяца назад
I thought the new multicam feature can be used while shooting !
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
I think it can be, for live editing, but we'll see when we test it
@WesleyJones1986
@WesleyJones1986 3 месяца назад
Anyone know what SSD that was @2:18-2:25?
@dcchavez97
@dcchavez97 3 месяца назад
Looks like a Lacie SSD Rugged Pro ( black ) , ( maybe 1 or 2 TB version ). .. I can’t confirm , but I have the orange color version. Works excellent for me.
@WesleyJones1986
@WesleyJones1986 3 месяца назад
@@dcchavez97 Thank you!
@Itsheysaharaa
@Itsheysaharaa 2 месяца назад
2:47 does this feature of the SSD only work with the new M4 iPad or all the previous M models?
@CineD
@CineD 2 месяца назад
it should work with previous ones too
@Itsheysaharaa
@Itsheysaharaa 2 месяца назад
@@CineD do you know when the release date is?
@CineD
@CineD 2 месяца назад
@@Itsheysaharaa not exactly, they said later this spring, so it can't be far away
@JordanSubido
@JordanSubido 3 месяца назад
Can you open the library to Fcpx?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Yes - it can be opened on the Mac version. But it's a one way street, you can't go back to iPad again after opening on Mac
@c.oberschneider
@c.oberschneider 3 месяца назад
@@CineDthat's the info I've been looking for - and unfortunately it's a deal breaker. Thanks for saving me a ton of money! 😅
@tanimotofoto
@tanimotofoto 3 месяца назад
How would you charge the iPad when editing if the USB-c port already has ssd ?
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
You wouldn't - I don't think it can be charged at the same time.
@tanimotofoto
@tanimotofoto 3 месяца назад
@@CineD thank you for honest answer
@KoenKooi
@KoenKooi 3 месяца назад
In the demo it looked like they attached the ipad to a studio display, and used the usb hub in three display for the ssd.
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 3 месяца назад
More important question, what videographer/cinematographer is carrying around 3 extra iphones?
@calebrasak6941
@calebrasak6941 2 месяца назад
You can. You just need to use a dongle or hub of some sort.
@Star_boy369
@Star_boy369 3 месяца назад
Awesome video
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@Star_boy369
@Star_boy369 3 месяца назад
@@CineD did you get any hands on with the final cut camera app? Curious to see the controls, how the UI and pro features compare to the black magic camera app and Filmic pro.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
@@Star_boy369 They didn't let us use it yet, unfortunately
@wesleygordonbrown
@wesleygordonbrown 3 месяца назад
Biggest news for me is that you can edit off an external SSD. Just saved me a chunk of money.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
absolutely!
@alexandrumacovei7174
@alexandrumacovei7174 3 месяца назад
Btw they removed 1 camera and 1 microphone :))
@user-gq3eq5bf9t
@user-gq3eq5bf9t 3 месяца назад
thinpossible
@Ponk_80
@Ponk_80 2 месяца назад
So all I need to buy is 4 iPhones and one iPad Pro, well that’s definitely not going to happen.
@williampierce7619
@williampierce7619 3 месяца назад
iPad= What a beautiful large iPhone🎉🎉
@MyNameJeff..
@MyNameJeff.. 3 месяца назад
Who’s filming anything serious with iphones? Multiple iPhones at that.
@postpros-e
@postpros-e 3 месяца назад
The Scene Removal Mask filter is *_not_* new.
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
I just checked and you are right - that is SO weird why they promoted it so heavily as something new in "Final Cut Pro for iPad 2" ... it was there in the first version already.
@highg
@highg 2 месяца назад
3:46
@u4tmradio
@u4tmradio 2 месяца назад
Ya but FCP is a subscription that sucks I’m never getting that
@j5k2k9
@j5k2k9 3 месяца назад
Apple needs to understand we dont want thin we want a beast,if thats 1cms thick or 3cm
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
They kind of gave us that with the Macbook Pros when we moved to M1, when they became thicker but much more powerful. There's no need for this on the iPads now since the M4 needs less power for higher speeds, so they can go thinner
@j5k2k9
@j5k2k9 3 месяца назад
@@CineD the thickness of the MacBook is perfect. They could also add more battery or something. Thin big things scare me when it comes to break ability and airflow
@rockyninja5089
@rockyninja5089 3 месяца назад
Ipad for editing a film...um sure. I struggle with three 27 inch screens already
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
I think it's not really made for editing a feature - but quick turnaround, small content - why not?
@rockyninja5089
@rockyninja5089 3 месяца назад
@@CineD that's called a phone app then
@nnnnnn3647
@nnnnnn3647 3 месяца назад
Mega lag in playback. 5:18 no so great presentation
@CineD
@CineD 3 месяца назад
Couldn't find what you are referring too? Nino
@3-piece129
@3-piece129 3 месяца назад
I think they're referring to the playback when the lady places the ipad back, they're not in sync and looks like it pauses.
@DanielKirillov-iv3ww
@DanielKirillov-iv3ww 3 месяца назад
I love how her favorite ipad feature is to spend more on Apple Pencil
@theoffice4951
@theoffice4951 3 месяца назад
If the iPad Pro does not have, macOS is pointless, just buy a laptop and get it done quicker easier and simpler
@kellyrossman5679
@kellyrossman5679 3 месяца назад
New iPads aren’t worth the price vs what MacBook does with its chipset . Apples way out of line with price for the iPads
@nikitgehlot777
@nikitgehlot777 3 месяца назад
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@EugeneMaynard 3 месяца назад
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@KCYT2010
@KCYT2010 3 месяца назад
Not practical at the ridiculous price. Who cares how thin it is. I thought they'd stop that nonsense once Jony Ive was gone. Form over function is stupid.
@mmc5261
@mmc5261 3 месяца назад
Nothing special to see here
@LogicLegionnaire
@LogicLegionnaire 3 месяца назад
For you. I’m upgrading from an iPad 6th gen so stfu
@Digitalfiendscom
@Digitalfiendscom 3 месяца назад
Can you create a project and do rough editing in FCP 2 and then continue to refine it on the desktop version of FCP? I’m still rocking the 2nd gen iPad Pro 12.9 and was holding out for the OLED screen and will be picking this version up. I really want to be able to work on some ProRes files on-site then bring back the rough edit onto the desktop to leverage all of the plugins that I have.
@pclil359
@pclil359 3 месяца назад
Yes, but as Nino said above it's a one way street; no round tripping. So can at least start a cut on the iPad, but finish on Mac.
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