Problem With Suicide Squad Kills The Justice League Review 

Slight Correction, I said you finish the game and dont get a credits roll. I didnt explain what I meant. When you finish the main storyline and the big reveals happen. The game does give you a final mission. But this mission is structured to present the Live Service elements to you. Well the endgame ones. Beating the boss here WILL give you a credits roll. But you'll see once you do it, its going to feel odd going from the final fight, to more farming, to another final fight. I meant to clarify, but we missed it in the edits ALSO WE HAVE A COMMENTARY CHANNEL NOW! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HqX_5-0F0Fk.html

They could have made this an Elseworld Batman, but they tied it to Arkham for 💰

Lex wasn't shot. Flash ripped his heart out

What bugs me is that they show hints of Harley having some respect for Batman despite their history but when he’s on his last legs she mocks and kills him without remorse. Like I’m sorry I know Harley can be cruel but I just don’t buy her being so nonchalant about killing Bats but getting all sad over Wonder Woman’s death when they didn’t even know each other. You can have Harley kill Batman but at least make it more believable and satisfying for both

Fighting Arkham Batman should have been like a 30 minute horror segment where he is constantly trying to assassinate you and you have to work as a team using all your unique strengths to barely take him down

A huge missed opportunity was not including Killer Moth. He has the wings for flight and mobility, he uses guns, he’s literally called Killer Moth, why is he not in this game?

yet another sickening massacre of superman's character

They shouldn’t have used the Arkham universe here. Shoulda been an off shoot universe type thing.

Sad thing is: it‘s absolutely an Arkam-Game. They even tried to explain the gap between the End of Arkham Knight and this: Bruce seemed to be the Demon Bat until he got Recruited by the JL and moved operations to Metropolis, acting as Batman again. The mental gymnastics on that one… it‘s in the Batman-Museum if you wanna give it a listen.

The Arkham Batman boss fight should have been luring him into a hand to hand fight and when he tries to counter you the way you beat him is you're supposed to switch characters to hit him as someone else. It would have shown the Squad beating him by working as a team, just like Bruce said.

Batman gets shot The flash gets shot Green lantern gets shot Superman gets shot Wonder woman burned to death- rocksteady is so creative😂 but seriously why was this game made

One thing I'd like to mention about the game that I don't think I've heard people talk about, is how it depicted Brainiac. I thought the design was kind of interesting and I really love Jason Isaacs as the voice actor, but the dialogue and portrayal was really weird. Since when does Brainiac want to restore Colu? What he wants in the comics is to collect worlds in order to enhance his knowledge. His home planet is irrelevant to him. That felt more like something General Zod would do. Also my problem with his dialogue was that it felt too casual and often funny, when Brainiac is supposed to be cold and calculating.

17:31 Amen. He could have chased you every few missions like Nemesis for proper impact.

25:47 “don’t do that. don’t give me hope.”

Regarding The Flash, don't forget about what happened when Wonder Woman caught him with The Lasso of Truth. The purple tint in his eyes briefly went away. It was Barry.

I just find it a little odd they can license for the entirety of DC for this game but center their ongoing live service around the B-listers. Is it because of the movie box offices or something?

The biggest problems I see most looter live service games have is mission variety, most of the time if go here, shot this, stay here for x amount of time, shoot x amount of enemies.

Here's the twist of the entire game. Lex Luthor from Earth 2 is actually "Brainiac Prime". Clues. 1. When the defeated Brainiac saw him, he gave that "You" as in "you're the mastermind behind all this". 2. When Brainiac died, Lex Luthor said there were 13 Brainiacs left, Harley said "12", and he gave her that "you dumbass" smirk. 3. Every Arkham game has revolved around Joker somehow being the main villain, it only sets that Luthor is the main villain here. 4. Lex Luthor automatically knows how to hack Brainiac and his ship technology.

Makes sense about Brainiac making clones of the league, after all he makes mention of making copies of Batman after you killed him so you can spot him in the open world if you haven't done so beforehand.

Disrespect to the DC heroes, if you want to kill them you can do so but if the only hero who gets treated with a little respect is WW. Also fuck the gameplay

They should’ve switched wonder woman’s role in the game with Batman. I’m assuming The story is laid out this bad because of sweet baby Inc.

the lantern ring not working properly, flash's thumb being regenerated, and green kryptonite not working on superman are good points, but there is still one major flaw; arkham wonderwoman is still shown to be 1000% dead. ideally, you would wish for all the league members to survive, so it wouldn't be reasonable to kill one major character (especially wonderwoman) only to later bring back the others who supposedly just had evil doublegangers. i think this is all just the result of bad writing/lack of research and hope that this is truly just an alternative reality.

The fact that Superman was beaten that way is BS. An evil Superman could've killed them at any time.

They *should have* used 'The Crime Syndicate' instead...

Should’ve just had Batman save the brainiac infested JL. What a waste

The game involves the multiverse. They could of use the crime syndicate instead of the justice league.

There are images online that you can find that show that the flash actually has a different thumb, similar to what the brainiac enemies look like, it's sharp and has purple lines in it, I think it just implies that brainiac can heal and fabricate limbs, but he might still have just fully created that league, but that should also mean that he can keep creating them, no?

Didn’t Batman blow himself up at the end of Arkham Knight to fake his death ?

I cant get over the fact that its bloody Fortnite, and dont tell me it aint.

King Shark gets a green ring….do I really need to say more?!?

That last theory would be great if it came true but would work a lot better if we didn't have to wait for multiple seasons for it to play out. Having the league around for future games would be nice but we'll see.

I hate live service single player games mine kept crashing and losing my progress

Game sucks let’s be honest. - Bad Story telling - Bad character dialogues between Squad and JL - All enemies are the same and tedious (Marvels Avengers) - Boss fights were the WORST part of the game - A clear push for character customization instead of ensuring the characters are all treated with care. It’s disrespect to the senior staff of the Arkham series. Amazing how technically Arkham Origins is not canon but the fans consider it canon yet SSKTJL is canon but the fans are not considering it to be. Goes to show how greedy the new Rocksteady has become

Hi Bennie. This is my first comment on ur channel, but i have watched several of ur videos, and really apprecciated a lot of them ( for example i like a lot ur Joker And Batman voices when u interpretead the comics for us) and i really liked ur analysis about the topic, and being completly honest i was looking for it. Personally after the spoiler i have refused to play this game, but i really hope ur opinion is correct and is not another bait and switch. On a side note: ur content are great man, and u are a very good person. (i'll probably gonna watch ur prevoius live on twitch) And btw Ty Dan.

As far as Superman not showing up, batman states something about project K which I assume is project Kryptonian so if he was being broken and conditioned until the end of the game it makes sense he didn't show up early batman even makes another point that he wasn't ready for field testing yet.

The problem is this doesn't exist in a vacuum, which you kind of noted. Both versions of Gotham Knights also features dead Batman. Right now in the comic Batman is fighting the Bat-Family. There have been growing concerns that DC is trying to replace the classic characters with new versions for whatever reason. (I think there's more than one.) I haven't see a heroic Superman-type since Silver Sentry in the 2003 TMNT series but plenty of evil ones, and the last Superman game was evil Superman. It's not just the game itself but elements of ongoing trends with the DC heroes.

Saw some game play and immediately wished rental places still existed. This ones a renter.

The writing for it was horrendous, and it had a lot of logic gaps in it

At this point even Gotham knights gave Batman dying more respect than suicide squad did

I really enjoy your perspective on subjects.

Ik its a small detail but he doesn't bring up tht all of Batman's side kicks get killed off screen more then likely by Batman

This is a F2P mobile game that they wanted to turn into a Live Services cash-cow. Allowing this thing to be made was DC's/WB's greatest mistake.

Batmans dragged out death was just f disrespectful and disgusting.

You know there are dialogue leaks for upcoming seasons that have The Flash talking about recovering. My guess is that each new season along with getting a new member of the squad, you save an original league member.

This is an awesome review which i can agree with. Thanks for explaining your point of view.

4:20 Can you do something more substantive than Kill the Justice League lore? I’d watch an ep about how different comics have depicted trash cans over time.

I definitely agree that the league is coming back, but I don’t think it’s because of cloning, but rather resurrection. There’s audio files about the flash where he specifically asks why is *he* back, and how he understands sending villains to stop the Justice League after *they* went rouge, which implies that it was the real Justice League and not clones. Another file specifically says that the Flash’s resurrection had a significant effect on his nervous system, which again implies that he did in fact die. I think what happened is that Brainiac took their bodies after they were killed by the Squad (which we see happen in the game) and uses his tech to resurrect them. It would also explain why Flash has his finger back.

my personal interpretation is that it’s more supposed to be apart of the Arkham mini-multiverse. Earth 2 Lex described how most of the events of the attack in his world were the same, however there were small differences. So in this case, Arkham (or the basic plot points of Arkham) did happen, but this is a branch from that main timeline/universe caused by Brainiac’s invasion and/or is just another one of these parallel timelines

Thats why i really believe the JL members were clones

About the last of us 2. Im 100% with you mate. My friend told me what happens to Joel and i also refused to play it.

Batman does follow you throughout the main world, you can see him watching you on rooftops,

No wonder both Rocksteady's Co-founders left in 2022, they knew the ship was going to sink....

One thing I haven’t seen ppl talk about is MR.freeze comjng back as a dlc character. Wasn’t he and Nora supposed to have died together at the end of the Arkham dlc ?

Honestly if this wasn't in the Arkhamverse, or even the fact that this was one of Kevin Conroy's last performances it would have given a pass from me

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Tbh I like how the game looks, but I kinda wished they renamed the game to open up potential new updates like fighting other major threats. I feel kinda goofy enjoying the Suicide Squad more than any of the heroes in my childhood, but they were by far my favorite thing within the last 10 years related to DC.

Batman beyond with Bruce in oracle's role would've been insanely good. Sucks we got this...

Finally someone with an objective take of the game that isn't clouded by bs, tbh i just want this game to survive till at least season 4 so I can play deathstroke. The theory comicstorian proposed is very interesting 🤔

So basically it's possible that Kevin Conroy's last performance as Batman before his death was wasted on a fucking clone made by Braniac? Lovely >:/

Thank you Dan for the added footage! (27:00)

I blame Warner Bros for this. This reeks of "Studio who makes single player games is forced to make a live service".

what if the the squad is in some type of simulator that waller put them in

21:03 When it comes to group internet complaints, my brain queues up the House Party bullies talking, “What’s that smell?”, talk.

My issue with this game is that it seems to be making somewhat of the same mistake that the DCEU made and how they introduced the suicide squad there. We got a Suicide Squad game before we got a proper Justice League game. Heck people have been wanting a solo Superman game since Arkham Knight. When it comes to Injustice, I don’t know which Superman fans truly hated that game. Perhaps they found it disturbing but the game itself had “evil” Superman be beaten by good Superman so it wasn’t really ‘anti-Superman’, we got over it quickly. As for your theory that they were not the real JL we kill, I suppose we might get a revived JL. Reckon we could revive Kevin Conroy too?

Just watch the cutscenes of the game on youtube for the story no need to do the mind numbing live service gameplay loop.

Well done Benny

I share your theory about alternate justice leagues, when the Superman getting stabbed thing happend and his reaction, I immediately said 'This isn't the Justice League' I think Rocksteady used shock value to move units, but our Arkhamverse characters are either in Brainiacs skull ship OR elsewhere, and we will hopefully find them, rescue them and maybe have some DLC missions as them getting vengeance? Would love some new Batman predator gameplay :).

This is the best honest review I've heard. One of my favorite channels until this day.

The problem isnt about the act of killing the well beloved DC heroes. It was the execution. It was so bad. The Flash and Superman taken down by regular bullets and Batman going down like a bitch? Do they not....I dont even know where to begin. Its so wrong. Bad guys winning in the end and killing the heroes isnt a new concept in gaming. In certain games, it dows happen such as what-if scenarios or similar. But at the very least, the developers go out of their way to make it make sense. I just cant tell where to start pointing out on how wrong this game is. You know, the fact that this was Kevin Conroy's last performance as the voice of Batman is like spitting at his legacy.

Finally a fair review, screw haters, I'm having loads of fun playing this and can't wait for more to come!

At First I was skeptical that the Justice League would be killed by the Suicide Squad but I thought WB mislead us and that they would be Unbrainwashed later, but then when they Announced that this will be connected to the Arkham Series I was one of the few people who saw the Red Flags, then Kevin Conroy passed away and this would have been one of the Last Roles(with Crisis Part 3 seemingly being his Final Role), and don’t get me started on the multiple Delays for 3 Goddamn Years, the Shooting Mechanic, and the Live Server B$, I knew that this would be not just a Bad Game, but a Insult to DC and Arkham Fans that would have loved to see Rocksteady make either a Superman, Batman Beyond, or Justice League Game but now it’s clear that the Original People behind the Arkham Games have left and are given the Keys to New People that don’t understand what they’re doing that would lead this Once Great Company into Bankruptcy in the Most Distasteful and Distasteful Way Possible, Nobody in their Right Minds would want a Game that you killed off Some of your Favorite Heroes in Cold Blood, the Live Server Shooter Angle is a Terrible Game for a DC Game, the Only Good Character is King Shark, I like Deadshot but his Anger with Green Lantern is Doom, this is the Wrost Harley Quinn played by Tara Strong I didn’t like, Captain Boomerang is the Worst Character in the Game, Lex is more Enjoyable than Waller, the Graphics are a Major Downgrade to the Arkham Games especially when Knight was pure Perfection even if the Game is Overrated, the Side Characters are Boring, and is just Depressing and Not in a Good or Enjoyable Way when you Play or Watch, all I can Say is that MK1 and Spider-Man 2 are far better than this Abomination that I wish was Cancelled completely.

If it wasn’t the Arkham verse I wouldn’t have given a shit like in Gotham knights.

My only problem I had with the game was that they killed Batman which isn't the way you honor a Voice actor like Kevin Conroy.

My Child Hood was Murdered By Harley Quinn and a bunch of losers.

Arkham knight was never $70. Nor does this compare in any way.

So basically Justice League “War” without Martian Manhunter?? After watching the gameplay I had a seizure. WAAAAAY too much bs going on to be able to enjoy the environment.

Hmm some people spent like $100 for the game and you only get like 12ish hours of unique content, it seems like a really big scam

16:39 I reckon that’s poetic because that’s the same way how his parents died, how Batman was born and how he died become full circle

Your argument about Injustice is a good one. But as far as I remember, the death in that universe made sense. Superman killing Shazam, Green Arrow and others makes sense. However, a team of B list villains (if not even C list) taking on the Justice League with guns doesn't make sense. Those guys will not last 5 seconds against any of them, furthermore their evil version that will not hesitate to kill. In Gotham Knights, they also killed their Batman, but it was an epic fight between him and Ra's Al Gul. If this game was a Justice League game, I would have bought it instantaneously.. I don't really care or want to play B list villains that are psycophats, murderers and criminals. So I'll pass, despite having bought all the Arkham games previously. I think is a missed opportunity, a Justice League game with that kind of investment and design would have been epic.

If your theory is right, what if at the end of season 1 you rescue the justice league and since WW is dead, you get too play as the JL (considering it’s a group of 4 now with supes, Batman, flash and GL) too stop Brainiac for sure. And also maybe the idea of having a Nightwing, Robin, red hood and batgirl dlc

I loved The story😂idk y Y'all Like this...I loved This(25:46) theory Coz that's what I also thought Coz This Is A Peak Story✨😂I just Love the Game fr fr

This video I been waiting for (◕‿◕✿)

Another theory I've heard: the whole squad is plugged into a simulation machine controlled by Waller.

My hesitation on the game falls mostly on the open world live service game format, inevitable gear-score looting system, and during its early presentation, the uncanny arkham-verse "traversal" system. I was not expecting the traversal systems to be equipment specific (if it wasn't innate) it'd been nice to see a Speedforce fueled King Shark racing up buildings, the Doom-like Glory kills to restore shields, questionable open-world non-Task Force X related "missions", the BL-like talent tree, and a A-to-B gameplay hidden behind a well-received story (barring some canon lore). These are not the Gods they're killing - just inked songs of their legacy.

RIP

People who get so bent out of shape over Batman make me feel like I’m not even a fan 😂. I wasn’t bothered by it I know this is just a one off game it’s not comic cannon if it does it will be a what if type of story or non the main dc universe.

I believe the theory is right. The issue now is will people want to go through like x amount of expansion over x amount of years spending x amount of money. Plus this is a counsel game so no sense of finality may rub people the wrong way. As comicstorian mentions.

As far as reviews go. In my opinion. You are becoming the goat again. As you were in the beginning of your channel. As for me. I am super old school, gaming wise. I started out with pong. But it is refreshing to me. You have a new fire burning in your gut once again. For your different reviews! I enjoyed this one.

Ideology driven people should not be in charge of our beloved games.

I think his theory is pretty solid i mean it would make sense because about batman because his timeskip doesn't make sense because we see a hologram about it and then evil batman

If the clone theory is true, I believe that if the JL was to show back up to the public after all that their clones did, its a setup for them admitting that they alone weren't enough so that brings them to introduce more members to the JL and which is also another way they can introduce more characters for the passes, an example would be hawkgirl or something

Last of Us 2 for you is Suicide Squad Kill the Justice league for us

Thank you so much. Too many of the reviews have been from the point of view of an Arkham game. This is set up to be an interesting live service.

Feels like SUNSET OVERDRIVE with all that leaping thru the sky's literally. Just needs Grinding

Honestly you convinced me when you brought in the clone thing. Makes sense. I wait for the price to drop them get it.

Death of Batman 😔

Harley is the worst character

Seeing the concept art of the Batman fight feels like it was suppose to be multiple platforms where we could use our mobility skills around the arena dealing with him and minions

I always enjoy the review from Benny, I feel like the skin stuff is very in line with other live service. (Blizzard charged up to 20 dollars for a skin in Overwatch 2 for example). The whole stuff with Batman being the mastermind behind the plan to take out JLA is so in line with the tower of babel story.

It’s nice to see such a strong relationship between WB and this channel. Wholesome