YES OR NO to using a sleeping bag liner ?? sleeping bag liners OK for some people and to help keep a little bit more warmer and to protect your sleeping bag for muddy and wet trousers. #sleepingbagliners #bagliners #englishwoodsman
I used to use a liner, haven’t bothered for the last year for some reason. I’ve brought a quilt to try as I’m always getting tangled up in my sleeping bag 😂 thanks for sharing Dan Ash 🏕
I do not understand folks who sleep in the clothes they have bean wearing all day - I use a Marino wool base layer stored in a dry sack - Bag liners give you an extra few degrees of warmth so it depends how extreme your camping is - they could be a life saver or a bind - Take care Dan
If it's chucking it down with rain and you're using a bivi/bivi style or other small tent and you just want to get in and there's no room to change inside?
I used to get tangled up in mine but I carried on and now I buy the large military cotton type which for me are tri purpose. 1: help keeps that bag clean 2: winter time just an extra layer 3: during hot/summer time can use this along with a thin sleeping bag or even on its own just to help keep out that little bit of possible chill.
Hate that they twist but love that they can help keep your bag cleaner and they add a little extra warmth. I stitched some loops into my sleeping bag at the foot box and the shoulders then stitched some cord to the bag liner so I could tie them together, it helped but need to do the same in the middle of the of both which will make it even better
I’ve never tried a liner but I would think they would twist during the night and be annoying. It would be nice if they designed the bag and liner by the same company with snaps (placed at the seams)
I got the oex Furnace +8 liner. Typically I haven't camped since so haven't used it. My thinking was if I can add two or three degrees on my summer bag (OEX Fathom 200) I could maybe get away with using it as a three season. I will be testing that theory this spring. Great video, Dan.
Camped a lot of times in all conditions and cant imagine getting in a sleeping bag dressed. Always found it better to lose the layers before bed and have em ready to go on when you get out of the bag. (I have got dressed in a sleeping bag, but never got in a sleeping bag dressed)
When I was young mum sewed up a sheet for a liner. This was because washing a sleeping bag ruined it! I going to get out this year and have been looking at liners, again just to keep the bag clean. ATB stay safe👍🦊
Thank you great video. I've never used a liner, but I'm going to give one a try when we go camping this August/Sept, and washing the sleeping bags is not easy. I'm looking into different ways to attach the liners so they don't twist around. So far I have most of the liner secured, its just the opening for the top half that I'm still working on.
I use a liner but in conjunction with my down quilt i hate mummy bags can't get comfy in them so i use a liner to give me a layer between my sleep mat and me since my sleep mat is cheap 18 quid one. my quilt was made by my mother and i am toasty warm in the depths of winter in it lofts up by 3+ inches but packs down to near nothing in my pack. but yeah a liner for me is basically used as a sheet to give me a barrier between my sleep mat (and cheap highlander foil mat thing) and myself.
I use them mainly in my expensive down bags to keep them clean. Cleaning a liner bag is *way* easier than a down bag (especially on the trail). I don't bother in my cheaper fibre bags that I don't hike with. I've seen absolutely no noticeable temperature differences with a liner.
I use a fleece one too Dan. Gives a couple of extra degrees on a cold night. I also use a mat cover with a pillow pocket. Saves your pillow sliding out during the night..... Cheers.
Never used one but I have just purchased one to give it a try. Father in law bout a cheap one cut it down the length and attached it to the inside of his bag with Velcro he rates it this way as he reckons it doesn’t twist about so I’m going to give it a try
Like them. Undone stitching 3/4 way down. Over locked down edges to stop silk fraying. Self adhesive Velcro tabs from Amazon. Velcroed in place. Unzip bag liner goes with it. Easy getting in or out. Liner stays put. Just pull out wash and put back in no problem using it. Easy to pee as well 🔥
I was lucky enough to travel around the world, this was back in 2005. One of the bbest things i bought, was a silk sleeping bag liner. I travelled to Thailand....Malaysia....Singapore...Australia New Zealand....Samoa. In most cases i used the liner on its own. It would still be one of the first things in my rucksack.
I have only used them, maybe, a handful of times, and have always found them to be constricting for me. So, I have stopped using them. I used to go to sleep in sleeping bags, while in the military, with my boots on...for obvious reasons...and tried them there. Once in the civilian sector, I tried them again, to get a slightly higher temp in the bags, but, didn't really feel a difference. I decided not to have an extra bit of kit to was was worth the effort. I have stuck to "space blankets' instead...whether completely opened up to cover my whole body, or just folded in half for my legs and feet (where I can leave them inside the sleeping bag, and inexpensively replace them if they get ripped/etc.) The "Casualty Blanket" that I first got when I first got into the Infantry...and was subsequently "lost"...is now being used, along with part of an old military sleeping mat, to keep the lower part of my dog's raised bed warm from drafts, and capable of reflecting his own body heat towards him...along with an old civilian sleeping bag on top.
Hiya pal, I have got the OEX fleecy type liner, and use it regular in winter, mainly as it gives you an extra slight degree of warmth, but mainly to protect my bag. What I have noticed is it is a nightmare to get back into it's stuffsack lol. Take care and all the best. Nick
I have two silk ones, take em on every trip.. trouble is I never end up usin em. I think a better option is to take a sleeping bag and a quilt as an extra precaution rather than a liner. heres why, because the quilt can double up as a summer sleep system and an added winter warmer.
Wouldn't camp without one. I've got the furnace and a silk one. The silk was worth it. Great for of your camping a few nights easy to clean and super soft. Preserves the bag as you said and great for things like hostels and hot countries. I've slept in hot countries just in a liner. Well worth the pack size and weight. If it was just a one nighter and my bag was warm enough. Unless I was wearing my outdoors clothes like you said o wouldn't use a liner
Furnace was worth it but if I need the extra temp it provides over a bag and a silk liner it feels like I'm using the wrong rated sleeping bag. But if you've a cooler bag afbdont mind the slightlier bigger packsize of the furnace it's worth it. All I know is I always end up packing a slightly warmer bag and talking my silk liner as it's more comfortable next to skin
@@lewisfoster9514 thanks for the reply and you make an interesting point. I am a very cold sleeper and I am currently looking at the OEX Leviathan 900 (£175) but I'm also looking at extra options should I feel a little cold, especially as it seems that anything warmer is roughly double that price or more! The silk is an option due to it's smaller pack size (weight isn't an issue as I camp when touring on a motorcycle so size matters most). Comfort doesn't really come in to it as I would be wearing thermals if I was that cold anyway. I'll probably try the silk liner first and take it from there. Thanks again.
I’ve had the OEX furnace 8 liner for Christmas .. look forward to using .. I’m planning on using it in summer with my snugpak jungle bag .. cheers Chris & Sam
I have had a sleeping bag liner for years. I have used it once as a liner. I was tangled up in it all night. I currently use it as a sleeping pad cover for those trips that I have the dog with me; so far, it has kept her claws from putting a hole in the pad. It seems like a workable idea for keeping a bag clean and adding a few degrees of warmth, but for me, it is too much trouble.
3 yrs old uh...YT and recommendations.....oh well. I own several sleeping bags and liners and match them against the temps and conditions I`ll be camping in. Nothing fancy. I think the most expensive sleeping bag I have was $120 can. Then you have your Tyvek covers if you do it in a forest by a river and its really foggy and always chill
Just bought the OEX furnace not used it yet though will let you know the outcome after my first wild camp 👍 keep the videos coming pal really enjoyable and getting us through lockdown!
Always carried a sleeping bag liner every time I've had my sleeping bag, that probably explains why my feather and down sleeping is in great condition after more than 30 years of use
Bought an army issue arctic bag liner for my arctic army sleeping bag, complete mystery as to how it would attach as all the fittings seem wrong, however I can see the plus side for a bit of extra insulation and keeping the sleeping bag clean especially if your sleeping in your day clothes. I may have to mod my liner for the arctic bag.....the irony 🤣
I have 2 Sea to Summit one with no zip just a bag and sometimes use both together instead of a sleeping bag. Nice, warm, light and never have a problem. I use my sleeping bag like a quilt though.
I don't always use one but I have a Rab silk liner .It doesn't snag on the sleeping bag fabric so it moves with you. I think it gives more life to your down bag too.
Ive not used one but I did make myself a "camping nightie" from an old double silky sheet a couple of years ago, it keeps my sleeping bag "cleaner" but I can also get away with wearing it outside the sleeping bag if I have to get up. I think if I felt the need for a proper liner I would just wear warmer night clothes.
They are useful in Spring when it snows in Scotland and as useful in Autumn when it gets colder..... coime to think of it... Thay are also useful in summer when it snows or gets colder.....
Just bought the OEX Furnace Liner. Sometimes my Spring Summer bag is not enough on cooler nights. My Autumn winter is too much. It would give me options. Light enough to carry even if I didn't use it, a compromise without buying a third bag.
I have a cotton rectangular mummy shape linear and a polyester mummy shape one. The cotton one adds a small amount additional warmth in a bag while the polyester i never felt any warmer. They are also useful in hostels to use as an outside cover on a bag in case you find some hostels not very clean!
Interesting video, never used them but I bought the sea to summit reactor liner before Christmas that I haven't had a chance to try out yet cos of lockdown. Main reason I bought it was to add some degrees to my mountain warehouse 3 season bag. I planned to camp out a lot this winter and I'm now thinking it'll be next winter by the time I get to try it.
Yes I use liners, except for hot weather camping. I hate washing sleeping bags, so having that to do less often is a blessing! I use Cotten or silk. I’m a sensitive soul! Lol
I like oex gear a lot, i use the roam 200 all year round, mostly in my hammock with the dd underblanket. I dont zip the bag up, i use it like a top quilt. Much less faffing about to in and out
Yes them in the army to keep the bag clean, never noticed if there was any warmth advantage? I have the new oex one says +8 on it but I don’t think that right .
I've used one my mum made me out of a bed sheet! Not sure if it gives me extra heat but for me it was more about keeping my sleeping bag clean so I don't have to wash it. Could you do a video where you showcase really cheap bargain versions of kit that you actually would use yourself and think is really good, and a showcase of more pricey items that you would definitely recommend and use even though cheaper versions might be available
Bought one just before Christmas but not been able to use it due to lockdown. However I've also wondered whether I'd end up strangling myself in it as I don't keep still at night..😖
Hey Dan, I love them. Especially if you do the hammock cocoon, having a nice liner as a thin sleeping bag to cuddle inside it is amazing. I’m in the market for the Snugpak TS1 and I’m going to modify it with a zipper, because I agree with your thoughts on that. Cheers mate!
A simple light cotton one is all you need to add serious warmth to a sleeping bag. But I do agree they can twist and he annoying. I like to pack light which means a less than ideal sleeping bag in cold temperatures, so a liner adds an extra season to it.
Thanks for this vid mate, I've never tried a liner but was thinking about making one from a sheet. I've not even tried winter Hammock camping yet due to lockdown, but I bought a snugpak 4 season bag, and it was pricey, so a liner may be a good idea to protect it
I have two thermalite , extreme and extreme + , i thought they were crap untill it was -8° im a thermarest -18 bag , i put the two liners together and down booties on , there was a difference i slept well ,two nights into my sutherland camp ,still slept well , next day my pal in ullapool said it was minus -18 last night , i slept like a log ,
I have a few myself, the Canadian Army one with the complete sleep system, a fleece civilian (Coleman) one that zips open like a blanket, which works well with my envelope bags, and the new British Army one with the complete sleep system. The British one I despise the velcro, it always gets caught on the bag and causes issues but personally I don't mind liners myself.
I see them having two main uses, easier to clean than a kip bag and may add a few degrees of extra warmth. I have been known to use just the liner in the hottest months and silk is preferable to cotton.
I got some cheap cotton ones years ago and quickly learned to hate them. I’d rather use some kind of pajamas. Usually just woollen underwear and socks (and keeping them relatively clean) but I really wish I had silk pajamas in the hot summer.
You've just turned me off liners so I'm hoping that the OEX fathom 400 that's arriving tomorrow that I got because of your review is as good as you say it is haha great show mate!
Hello I have a sleeping bag that is pretty old but still works great the problem is the lining is getting more and more worn and tears all the time and was wondering if you could advise on how to replace the original lining with a new liner permanently like a kind of glue or sown in or maybe velcro.anyhow I cant be the only one with this problem and hopefully someone will have an answer...thanks for your time
I use mine to stop the sleeping bag getting dirty. If spending a few quid on a liner, extends the life of a sleeping bag by years, it makes sense to me if you're using higher end gear that's designed to last.
I bloody hate them. I move about a lot in the night and always end up with my legs tied together. Great for keeping the bag clean, but if I am muddy I prefer to just take my outer layer off. Just cant sleep with a liner.
Hi Dan, Have you ever used the Furnace Liner on it's own without a sleeping bag? Just thinking even my summer bag would be unbearable in the current heat?
I always felt that SB liners we're just the outdoor companies thinking up something that we don't really need just so they can sell us more stuff. A bit like toothbrush companies trying to get you to brush your tongue.