Prof x Ren - Pain Salesmen | Hip-Hop fan reacts! 

@@iamsquatty agreed. My favorite part of the song tbh.

Love Prof. Screw the record industry. We fans can lift up independent artists so they can be creative and real

Yeah man. I think they rwpp differently so to say without a doubt it's true is weird to me BUT I think I enjoyed Ren's verse more, imo. It had everything.

Sweet. Makes sense. Sounds like a Prof beat. But I know Ren can do anything so wasn't sure haha.

@@RenNotRen also thank you for being so eager to watch. It makes me heart happy 🩷

Love this! Yeah. Ren always has the metaphorical philosophical raps.

The main stream music complex/large labels are pain salesmen as well. What are you willing to give up to become famous..."your soul", dignity, morals, honesty etc... Record companies own many souls. Old ancient groups are still touring and they look old, tired and angry while doing it. That "evil" contract is never satisfied.

Thank you!

So glad to hear that! It means a lot!

Thanks for the kind words.

Their styles and voices blended very well together.

I haven't but I need to get on watching them!

Thank you’

I appreciate that, really. I just feel those reactors ruin it for ones like me and many others.

Thank you! I have a Ren playlist with much more Ren!

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Thanks for hanging out!

Thanks. I will start doing it more often.

Glad you enjoyed!

@@alanmai5656 pretty sure I said that in the reaction.

How does it make me feel? Idk. But I agree it's definitely a double. I think looking back in the context of the song this explanation fits.

@mcflyjp I was referencing the lyrics from Prof's track Feed the Dogs with the how does it make you feel. He specifically talks about being cancelled then going on to build an empire.

@@msabccbscnnoanfoxnews I have to disagree. Slug is absolutely one of my favorite MCs and one of the better ones out there. There is a reason he has respect from underground, indie, and even the likes of Tech N9ne. Atmosphere has 100s of bangers. And this is coming from someone who is absolutely over critical of music. I don’t know enough about prof to agree about his body of work but I wouldn’t doubt he’s good as well. Both can be good without it affecting anyone.

@@mcflyjp I’ve been listening to hip-hop since 84. Slug is OK at best.

Who are some of your favorite MCs.

@@mcflyjp Prof, Lateef, Gift of Gab, Eli, Grouch, Sage Francis, Eminem, El-P, Aesop Rock, Oki, Grieves, the Narrata, old ll cool j, Beastie Boys, De La Soul, Digable planets, tribe called quest…

Some very good artists here. Tribe is one of the all time great groups. Aesop Rock is good, but definitely one of those Niche type of artists. I'd say that he has a great following of people who love that Niche. Doesn't appeal to the masses (nothing wrong with that, in fact, I commend him for staying true to himself. Gift of Gab is great, I can't argue with being one of the better artists out there. Eli and Grouch are fun, and I absolutely love their energy. Grouch's cadence is unique, and definitely is a good beat producer. Eligh I actually like better than Grouch skillwise; better flow and all around cadence. But I, PERSONALLY, put them in the intermediate range. Sage Francis: I aint got nothing to say there except a poet who moonlights as a rapper is always a recipe for success. Eminem: He's the goat for a reason El-P: I've only heard a few so I can't really extend any thoughtful or accurate critique or praise Grieves: One of my favorites to listen to for the straight vibes and I think he creates excellent music. But if we are talking straight rap chops, i wouldn't put him near the top (I have praised Grieves on this channel multiple times). LL Cool J: One of the all time greats for sure. I actually think he is underrated, imo. Beastie Bots: Full stop... De La Soul: Agreed If I didn't mention any of the others I haven't heard enough. In my opinion Slug has it all. We have rappers out here that can write immensely deep, and intellectual raps but don't have the flow or cadence, can't freestyle, don't have a specific niche or pocket that they stay in. Slug has all of that. He may not be the greatest freestyler ever, but he can still do it. Old Slug was a poet himself; not only creating raps with flow changes, cadence changes and shifts in tonality, but also is great at storytelling. New-old Slug (Yesterday) is proof he's a great story teller. Old Slug (ScapeGoat) is absolutely superb. He has flow changes, singing hooks, metaphorical raps, rhyme scheme changes, catchy hooks, and absolute intensity. (Fuck You Lucy) is one of my favorite tracks of his, but there are many more. He also has deep songs as well. Lastly, without the foundation he set for Rhymesayers there wouldn't be any of the others, including Prof. Prof definitely made a name for himself with his hard work and overall talent. But Rhymesayers boosted his career exponentially for sure. And in my opinion, which is definitely that; my opinion, Ren had a better verse than Prof on this track (and I ultimately think Prof has established himself as the better MC if not for the sheer body of work over Ren). But I respect the opinion man, the fact you have a lot of Great artists on here that most people wouldn't otherwise mention is sick and I applaud you.

I have receipts if you'd like them 🤷🏽‍♂️

Rap is always about Double and Triple entendres. To say it's one or the other and absolutely not both without a doubt is kind of ridiculous. It could be any or all imo.

@mcflyjp you should explain that in the react. Your statement leaves too much to the imagination, and I would like to know what they were.

@mcflyjp I think it's pretty straightforward. Everyone is entitled to interpret it however they want. That's what I took from it.

Fair enough. The great thing about music is it's subjective and usually ones perspective on the music is due to their own experiences.

Music is subjective. But I agree that that line may be misinterpreted. Although, I don't think that changes the theme of the song at all. The point is that he's been working hard his entire life and may feel as if it's unappreciated.

@@mcflyjp no doubt about it. The meaning remains similar if not the same, but the tone of the song changes when you look at it from the lens of self expression rather than self exploitation. It's more of a vibe thing really. Sorry if that didn't come through with my first comment.

Noted. I will figure out a way to fix that moving forward. Thank you for the respectful, constructive criticism.