THIS MIGHT GET TAKEN DOWN WHO KNOWS!! but whilst it's up, have you guys seen the prom movie? if so what did you think? did you know of the show beforehand, let me know your thoughts regardless!
James Corden and Meryl Streep and Nicole Kidman have big careers and the directors and producers and marketing are banking on them to get people to watch it . Bring in their fan demographic. Hence why probably there is so much time spent on those characters and emotional back stories. I think this movie is less about “a” lesbian couple but more about pride, and prejudice and fear of being hurt. Like how Barry’s mom , Mrs Greene and Emma’s parents all represent the difficulties with acceptance. The ladder of whom represent all those people that don’t have a change of heart.
The movie was good I guess🤷🏼♀️ I mean it's not broadway... but I love musicals, Meryl Streep, Ariana Debose, Nicole Kidman (Even tho she wouldn't be my choice to these role), Keegan Michael-Key... sooo I liked it, (and loved Meryl "It's not about me"! Her voice's so much better now), but it's just not half as good as the original.
plus Jo Ellen was great in these role! And most of the songs were great! about them I just really didn't enjoyed when James Corden kinda talked instead of singing during the first song, I hate so much when actors sing that way during the musical movies😅
Btw, am I the only one who think they changed the plot to Dee Dee's love story somewhere in the middle of the movie?😅😅 (Dee Dee is my fav character so I didn't minded it at all, but for the true fans of the broadway show, I think that must have been pretty annoying😅)
absolutely!! it hit me so hard as you said she poured a much more positive/confident light on the character so it hurt when that happened, she killed it
"I watched it on a slime tutorial"😂 Once I told my friends that I had just watched the best 2 hours green and pink slime tutorial ever and I just couldn't stop laughing cause of their faces😅 They were soooo off😂
I thought James Corden did a great job in this movie, and I wish he weren't getting so much flack for it. I think the only thing he's doing with this voice is an American accent, and he has a naturally flamboyant personality - I'm speaking as someone who's been a big fan of his since before he won a Tony Award. He's so talented, has a joyful spirit naturally that exudes from him, and he really showed his range as an actor in this role. I love the original cast actor who played Barry, but I can love James in this role too.
I think the problem with his portrayal is that he is taking a job away from gay actors who are hardly getting roles to begin with ... I honestly thought he did a good job tho
@@mareksison I also believe he was hired for his name or for the draw that it could bring to the production. Ryan Murphy is also to blame for the casting decision. However, I don’t think he did a terrible job, it just felt weird knowing that there are SEVERAL gay actors waiting for this kind of opportunity.
@@angelfromhvn Well remember, Ryan Murphy produced the revival of "The Boys in the Band" on Broadway (and then directed the filmed version) and he made sure that each role was played by an openly gay actor because it's a play all about gay men. So it's not as though he's not familiar with this issue. And I feel that, if they were casting solely based on how big a name it is, there are others with a lot less talent they could have picked over James (who had his fair number of dissenters even before this). I think it was talent first, name second, that went into casting him. For better or worse, getting names into your productions (movies, TV, Broadway, everywhere) helps it along, but at least this time they chose a name that is more than talented enough to play this role.
I think it was important to add more about Barry’s story to share the narrative that parents who don’t accept their child for who they are will ultimately lose them if they don’t learn to change their minds. It’s then further explored with Alyssa & her mother, who chooses to come around sooner rather than later. This is what families watching on Netflix all around the world in their homes need to see!
Loved the movie and cast. The Netflix marketing and cast is what got me to watch something I have never heard of before and I loved it. The movie actually made me more interested in the broadway show that ran and the original cast. I am now fans of performers I did not know of before. So all in all I am happy it was made.🎶🎶
You described my feelings for this film so well! I'm so conflicted... Some parts I love, but they did indeed cut so much from Emma and Alyssa. And the backstory added to the other characters wasn't adding to the story. I did love Meryl Streep's adaptation of Deedee, and Ariana's face showed so much emotion which I loved. Just the emotion in her eyes made me feel so much. I watched scenes of them multiple times, just to see Alyssa looking so in love. The looks she gives are just perfect. Jo Ellen was amazing, but she seemed so happy in moments I expected her to be a bit more sad or frustrated (like in Just Breathe). I did love her version of Emma as well though. The other actors were great as well, but I'm conflicted about James Corden... At some points I don't like his casting, but in other moments I did like him. Love Thy Neighbour was just perfectly made into the movie. I also loved that they kept the choreography of Tonight Belongs To You. The Broadway musical will keep its number one spot in my heart as well, but I like watching the Emma/Alyssa scenes on their own. Thank you for putting my thoughts in such beautiful words! If someone asks me what I think of The Prom the movie, I should just send them this video haha
As a person who watched the broadway and the movie at the same time, I actually really loved the movie and didn't have your same criticisms which is perfectly fine. But I honestly thought giving Deedee that scene in the motel room was quite needed for me since I found her character in the musical quite surface level which is disappointing since she takes lots of time on stage. It made me care about her more which is important since she is a main character.
I really enjoyed the credit scene with Mrs.Greene accepting Alyssa and Emma, I thought it was really touching and important for the characters somewhat redemption, Showing that she is indeed actively trying!
@@emc1868 But legit the character in the musical is a stereotypical flamboyant gay character. Seems to me people are only annoyed about this casting on the basis he’s straight. The character in the show is legit playing a stereotype too..
I don't entirely get why it matters that Barry has more screen time. This movie is about the representation in my opinion, not about specific people. I wish Emma and Alyssa got more screen time but Barry's story is just as representative. In fact, Barry's story spoke to me more than Emma's, even though Barry was played by a straight actor. I don't even like James Corden but I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and his character. I get where you're coming from but I think that it comes down to what specific people want out of it, you were looking for something that the movie doesn't provide. And this way, there are two versions that can hit people in different ways: the musical and the movie. Two versions of the story with different parts shown, rather than two identical versions of the same story.
I understand your point totally! I have a friend who like you related more to Barry’s adaption in the film and that’s great, but just for myself personally I was disappointed with the cuts they made for Emma and Alyssa on own personal reasons, film adaptions will always get mixed points but they are all valid like you and me! I’m glad you found comfort from this adaption and enjoyed the movie!
I think the problem a majority of our gay male community has with Cordens performance is this need as a straight man to affect his characters sexuality with this stereotypical representation ranging from flitty hand movements to his upsetting“gay voice”. It’s very common for straight actors to do this when playing gay. We’ve come so far with equality and gay rights it seems ridiculous to still see us portrayed like we were 21 years ago in Oscar winning movies like As Good As It Gets. OSCAR WINNING MOVIES. Smh. It just sucks that even now this is what we get. It’s bad enough we’re always dying or terminally depressed or victims of violence or in some kind of taboo relationship leading to misery. Now we’re back to this cartoonish version of being gay. Its just exasperating, you know? I did love the movie, despite this one issue. It would have been better if they had cast a gay actor. There could have been more of a connection for us. But, all in all, everyone was fantastic. Meryl was stunning and with Keegan they stole my lil gay heart. I loved it all. The finale kiss was an explosion of joy that brought me to tears. Can’t wait to own the blu ray!
I see your point and agree, a gay actor would have been a much better fit than James Corden. The character was good, and I think Corden's performance was decent, but a gay actor would have been better as there wouldn't be a sterotyping problem.
im not mad about barry getting more time, im just sad that the scenes between deedee and tom feel more dragged out, when emma and alyssas main part in you happened was cut out. like you said, its a film about representation, and ii just wish they ahd more time on screen together
It’s interesting that so many people think this is Emma and Alyssa’s story. It’s as much about the Broadway actors and their life choices. The writers/director use their expanded story to appeal to a wider audience as well as showing a bit more of why people reject alternative lifestyles. Also consider an audience who may not be as much into musicals or teen drama but are big Meryl Strep or James Cordan fans (yes there are lots of those.) BTW...I was also horrified when they cut off “You Happened” but I realized they wanted the audience to focus on the 2 girls who see Emma and Alyssa together. It looks like an editing choice because it end so abruptly AND the FULL VERSION OF “YOU HAPPED” is on the soundtrack for the movie.
okay yes this is all valid, I know the story is about the broadway actors as much as emma/alyssa and it's a direct split however my personal opinion with the film was that it didn't become a direct split and just went fully onto dee dee and barry's background and pushed emma and alyssa's arc into the background during the process, this was the main/only thing that irked me regarding the film. I get the intention with barry's storyline too, i just felt it was stretched out way too much and yeah having those two is good marketing and I get it, however (again just my opinion) many musicals are supported anyway regardless of who is starring and have been majorly successful with og casts (i.e. rent film adaption) and yeah I hear you on you happened, I still felt like it was done the entirely wrong way but i listened to the full version when the soundtrack came out and both ariana and jo sound amazing just wish we saw it!
I feel like if you go into this directly comparing 100% with mentioning the cutting of lines & constant bashing of Corden's interpretation... you won't fully enjoy the performances elsewhere because you may unintentionally be aiming to spot the bad parts
I wasn’t bashing him, at least that’s not how I meant for it to come across, I did enjoy parts of his character (which due to copyright I can’t keep in) but the cutting of lines half was in jest because I knew some would get cut but the whole dialogue cuts was a genuine let down for me and that’s what my react is all about to give my raw feelings
I think the reason they gave the mom scene to Barry in this was just that it made a bit more sense. In this scenario, Barry's mom had much more time to reflect on what she and her husband had truly done, whereas Emma's parents would have only had about a year. I think it was also partially to show that time doesn't heal all wounds, and that even though Barry had grown and move past it (mostly) he still held the inner child that wanted nothing more than to feel loved by the people you tend to seek it from the most (your caregivers). I agree it would have been nice to see the "I was the child" line from Emma, as well, but I do think it hit a lot more coming from Barry since you'd naturally assume he was over it. Just my opinion, though!!
I do love the movie because of the representation in 'this unruly heart of mine' its such a beautiful song and I feel like she's talking to me, I dont want to hide anymore and when I'm safer when I move out, I won't hide who I am anymore
i enjoyed the scenes where emma and alyssa actually got screentime in the movie i agree barry and dede got so much screentime it was just filler it's like with this movie they were afraid to let the lesbian love interests be in their own movie i enjoyed it but i was only carried by jo ellen pellem and ariana desbose
So I haven't watched the stage version yet, but now I really want to! I wouldn't say I found all of the movie bad, but I just couldn't find myself to care even the slightest bit for all the backstory of anyone apart from emma and alyssa. Like you mentioned I just wanted to see more of them and not 10 minutes of deedee crying over her ex and blahblahblah. I also just discovered that I didn't watch most of the scene in the restaurant and hotel room because I didn't recognize half of the lines
i think you were a bit too hard on james. he did fine. it may not have been your favorite interpretation of the character, but you were awfully hard on him. he’s still talented, he wasn’t unwatchable. also, i don’t think he did a “gay voice” that was just him doing an american accent lol.
I didn’t say he was unwatchable, I did in fact think he got better as it went along (maybe I should’ve expressed that better I see that now) I just didn’t enjoy his first few scenes and didn’t find him a good fit overall, that’s all, it was just calling it how I saw it. I do still think in the beginning he was making his voice extra fem and it got better as it went along, I know I’m not the only one who thought this but all in all I didn’t intend to be harsh! :)
rewatching this reaction after west side story came out on disney+ yesterday and ariana debose has been casted as calypso in kraven the hunter!!! let's give it up for golden globe winner, ariana debose!
I am quite surprised to see the Ninja Steel Yellow Ranger and the main Mech-X4 protagonist is in this movie. And also, Kevin Chamberlin who played Bertham from Jessie is in this movie.
Power Ranger fans reacted as they saw Nico Greetham's first movie appearance of The Prom. We can't believe he really did well in his role of Nick Boomer.
At this point I’ll be writing short stories of Emma and Alyssa as wholesome cottagecore lesbians or being the best couple in the school because Kaylee and what’s his name and Shelby and what’s his name no.2 ain’t 💩
The arms angie did when we first see her r from a style of dance known as fosse, which is the main style of dance in chicago, the show angie is in, (plus other musicals like sweet charity and cabaret)
I adore this film a lot but I agree with what you say about the lack of screen time with Alyssa and Emma and the unnecessary screen time with DeeDee and Barry + the songs they cut. I'm also sorta mad that they gave Barry and his mum a story line. Also, I love Kerry but I sort of wish they didn't have that redemption arc because it takes away from the truthful reality. Again, it's Emma's story so all the storyline about Barry annoys me a little. Unruly heart gives me goosebumps every time I watch that scene.
Never heard of the play and haven't seen the movie, though I vaguely recall a real life event that probably inspired it. You did an excellent job breaking down and explaining the the differences and issues with the two versions. It's clear that they pulled some big names for the film and so shifted the narrative/scenes to give those names more screen time at the expense of both the main characters and overall story. A shame but not surprising.
it was loosely inspired by a true event yes absolutely! and thank you I was nervous I'd come across too critical but all of this here is just my raw reaction, I'm glad you liked it! it is unfortunate that films do this, but as I said the main thing is that this story continues to help people and bring happiness!
@@becsreacts2568 I watched The Prom, two Christmases ago. I did see Nico Greetham in the film. Fans of Power Rangers went absolutely nuts over Greetham's role for Nick Boomer. According to the Nico Greetham page in the Power Rangers/Super Sentai Wiki, he was currently in a relationship with Fuller House's Logan Riley Hassel.
This is what a avid Power Rangers fan saw and this is what a avid Power Rangers fan has witnessed since Power Rangers Dino Thunder's Emma Lahana in Big Time Movie!
Your reaction reminds me of my reaction of Aladin live action because they added and changed so much but I was watching The Prom with my sister and she was already tired of it by the middle. Because she said it was two long just how much longer it would have been for people who aren't used to Broadway musical lengths they would stop watching(don't get me wrong I was so annoyed when they cut scenes but then I realized it's not only about Emma because it would be called The Emma show but it's about the Broadway stars aand Emma if you look at the oder they put the cast Emma isn't first meaning that she is the man character she is one of them)
for sure it’s meant to be about both but in my personal view (if comparing to the og again) the show had a great balance, the film however just made the scales go completely one way :)
Anyone familiar with RM's work could have predicted almost exactly what changes he made. I didn't see the production live, and yet all the changes that id suspected had been made turned out to be spot on.
I agree that it's annoying that they cut off time from Emma and Alyssa and gave more screen time for Barry and Dee Dee, which, I am always here for more Meryl but they made it too much about Barry and not enough about Emma and Alyssa
I don't actually think Corden did too bad in this - but in general I think his character got too much screen time, I think that about the stage show too though. We needed more of Emma and Alyssa.
Does it bother anyone how well funded the school is?? Like the school looks like a college, the whole aesthetic of the movie is so preppy. Why did they do that? Like they changed the 711 to a giant mall, where were the small town vibes?
I kinda had the same experience as you when it comes to The Prom. I saw the Broadway version through a slime tutorial too and immediately fell in love with and it's now one of my favorite musicals if not my favorite. I agree with you on the part of having a filmed version of the stage production and I'm still holding out hope for one to be released in the future. So fingers crossed! Now onto my thoughts about the movie. I personally really loved it. I mean, I do have some issues with it but overall, I loved it because it's fun and exciting and just happy! I think it also helps that I tend to have an easier time separating my experiences with stage productions, movies, books, and tv shows on the same story since they're all very different media formats and it's not quite fair to compare them to each other since they all require very different things. I agree with you that James Corden wasn't the best actor to play the role of Barry but I thought he did a decent job and I didn't mind him in the role. Personally, I would have cast a gay actor for the role but it is what it is and I've learned not to trust Ryan Murphy so I wasn't so surprised by his choice. Regardless, I don't think James did as bad as a job that a lot of people are saying (not you, just people in general). My biggest gripe with the film is that Emma and Alyssa had so little lines and scenes in this when they could have added more. That was always my biggest gripe with the musical as well was that, while in the musical it was better, it didn't have a lot of scenes with the two even though the story is about them. Which always made me a little sad and I was really wishing that the movie would change that but instead they made their interactions even shorter. So that was the biggest disappointment for me. Anyways, sorry for the wall of words. I'll finish up now! Thank you for the reaction!
There are parts of the film I loved and parts I hated. I loved all the lead actresses. I loved the music (although I hate that they cut parts of the songs). I hated that it felt like the 2 main characters felt more like side characters at points. It seems like they didn't have a good balance of where to develope certain characters more and where to dial it back. (My exception to this is Angie. I think even the couple extra lines of dialogue made a HUGE difference and really filled her out as a character.) I think too much time was spent on Dee Dee and Barry's characters (although Meryl Streep was amazing and I don't think any other screen actress could have pulled it off the way she did. I will not diss a queen. She deserves respect.) I really loved the way Barry's Going to Prom was done, but I think I would have appreciated it more if they didn't spend so much time on Barry prior. I didn't like the reunion with the mom. Not only because of the reasons stated in this video, but also because they never acknowledged that it was messed up for Dee Dee to do that. It isn't her place to make that decision for somebody and put them in a position to be put face to face with the thing that has caused that kind of hurt in their life. I loved that Alyssas mom was there in the end, but it also leaves a complicated question. Are we not going to acknowledge that she went from basically trying to ruin the life of a teenage girl and all of the sudden she is fine with her daughter kissing that girl in front of her? Also why is nobody uncomfortable with this woman being at this prom? She was on the news for this, so everybody there knows who she is, and she had no problems bullying a fifteen year old child! It doesn't matter if you agree with her or not, she is a child and Ms. Green is a full grown woman. Maybe if there was some dialogue after between the two characters it would have fixed this problem, but we go straight from Alyssa and her mom to everybody being happy and acting like she never caused any problems or caused so much pain to Emma. (I will say though that outfit in the end she wore was A👏MA👏ZING👏👏👏👏👏.) I liked it overall. I would watch it again, but there are parts I will fast forward.
I watched the movie first, got obsessed. Then I found the show, got obsessed with the Broadway show, and watching your reaction made me laugh. Even though I saw the movie first, I have to admit James Corden took some getting used to.
I agree with everything you say. I too try not to compare the movie to its counterpart but you cant help it when they cut so much of what makes the show what it is. Though i wish alyssa could be a little bit more goofier cause thats when we see two sides of alyssa. One side was when we see her with emma and another is the perfect version her mother wants her to be. So by the end of the movie, alyssa would actually makes sense when she says that she just wants to be herself. I blame ryan murphy.
yeah exactly! as I said at the ending of my video, if people find comfort in the film like many did in the show then that's great but it's a little bit of grievance to those who did love the show so deeply to see all these major changes!
I think this movie is about everyone in the community being accepted no matter who they love and was barry over leaving his parents cause it does not seem like it
I tried to see your reaction, but your negativity (at least in the first part of the video) did not let me finish. As a gay person, I don't understand why so many criticize James Corden's performance, as the character himself (both on Broadway and in the movie is and should be stereotyped). Outside of that, I am almost outraged that people are offended by an effeminate gay, that they do exist (in that way and even more exaggerated). These kinds of attitudes leave us as a closed community, which is sarcastic as it is supposed to be what we are fighting against.
I wasn’t trying to be negative, I was just giving my raw reactions and I’d say I just had a mix, I enjoyed parts which is evident but yes I did have issues/critics. I’m not outraged by James Corden, as I said I have no issues with him as an actor I just found him not the right fit and yes Barry’s persona is a portrayal of a very real portion of people within the LGBT community, **however** I know some people were didn’t take well to him ‘putting on a voice’ as it wasn’t exactly needed to go with the representation. You disagree and that’s fine, I was just projecting my thoughts and I found him to get better as the film went on and did a good job with the emotional scenes they put him in. I wasn’t having any sort of attitude to the character of Barry, I love him. I simply didn’t find the actor they chose as the best choice, that’s all. If I came across too negative then I apologise but as I said I was just going off my raw feelings as I had a lot of anticipation for this film. :)
*dee dee Allen and the principal second scene begins* Me: move heteros GIVE EMMA AND ALYSSA THEIR MOMENTS PSDIDJSSKS to film companies: I’d really appreciate it if you for once had a lesbian love story that’s biracial, has a *happy* ending, and gets the majority of the screen time, thanks 😊 -your local lesbian :3
I LOVE that they made this movie! I didn’t know much about the storyline before it, but it allowed me to see a show that I wouldn’t ordinarily have gotten to see on Broadway since it wasn’t playing at a theater anywhere near me while in production. It made me want to go see it on Broadway should I ever have the chance to. I love the music & the characters & my favorite part was Andrew Rannells singing Love Thy Neighbor. That was my absolute favorite number & Andrew was brilliant! That song has a great message alongside a catchy track. Also, I loved Unruly Heart. Jo was so good & incredibly talented! I know a lot of people weren’t a fan of this movie, but I loved it! I’ve watched it quite a few times. I can’t get enough of this movie.
My three main criticisms are that so many good lines were cut out, Emma is smiling WAY too much and Emma & Alyssa felt like side characters in their own story.
Have you watched stars in the house prom reunion?? Caitlin sings unruly heart and Izzy sings Alyssa Green. It so good!! I had tears because their chemistry jumps off the screen!
I think they had to cut the songs short mostly because of how long it would have been, and also with Emma and Aleysa I think they should have more screen time but also in the musical they weren’t like main characters already
yeah they did cut it for time, but where the annoyance stems is that they cut it because they didn't have time because they put in these random plots and that's where I'm like :/ about it, and emma is a main character but yes alyssa altogether is mostly like considered to be secondary, but again that's why I find it even more insulting that their already limited time together was cut even more if that makes sense
They make this movie base on Broadway story, but they sell this movie for normal people, so maybe for the Broadway people or who like Broadway so much should be comprehend 🙂🙏 That's my thoughts.
I think it might be interesting for you to watch it without thinking it has to be a shot for shot or line for line adaptation. The one thing that irked me slightly was your saying that it’s not what the film is about. The musical has its own point and the movie is taking its own view of it. 🤷🏻♂️
I honestly didn’t think it had to be “shot for shot” or “line for line” I knew a lot of the little punchline joke lines would get cut and I’m just kidding around when I empathise that those were cut. the main part that annoyed me was for emma and alyssa’s dialogue and songs to get cut significantly even those who didn’t know the show prior have said (in reviews) that they were pushed to the back. I’m sorry if it irked you what I said, as I’ve said in other comments this was just my raw reaction and I was really amped up lmao but I still do feel that in my own personal view but I totally respect those who see it differently!
@@becsreacts2568 I definitely think of all the characters I wanted to see more of I'd say I'd want more of Alyssa rather than the broadway crew for sure.
Then cutting the end of you happened completely takes away the integrity of the song. It loses its genius. And the message is lost if you don’t see them prompose to each other in secret.
So I don’t think James was awful but he was the wrong choice. The only reason I think his casting works is because they gave him all the unnecessary (plot wise) scenes. I think the fact that he got to play the tragedy kept him from just being a caricature. Still would have preferred to see a gay man in the role.
Nah he wasn’t awful, I certainly found him getting better as it went along but still wasn’t the right choice, he was pretty good in those scenes as unnecessary as they were. I usually don’t have an issue with a straight actor playing a gay role but for this particular character I just think a gay actor would have been more beneficial for the delivery!
I just don't think that the movie should be judged by the Broadway version... They are such different things. For better and worse, cuts and changes will be made. You should take it on its own. Stopping to nitpick every other minute is a drag. The movie was fun and bright and happy and cute. Focusing a little more on the stars only helps bring it to a wider audience. Which is a good thing. I had no problem with James Corden... gay men can play straight womanizing playboys, so who cares. And there are plenty of straight women who have played lesbian characters that I love. I'd rather embrace the joy here.
I wasn’t nitpicking every other minute, I was just giving off my raw reaction. I know the film is it’s own independent things but it’s just my opinion that the direction they went in wasn’t the perfect one. I didn’t hate it or dislike it, I just was a little let down in parts and I said at the end of my video that regardless of opinions like my own as long as the film helps people like the show did that that’s the main thing and the most important thing. I also had no issue with James Corden playing Barry because he was straight but more so just because I didn’t find him a good fit, it had nothing to do with the actors sexuality but more so with the way it was portrayed on screen, as I said, didn’t hit me where I had hoped. Embrace the joy of course! I didn’t mean for my critics to come across as me hating on it I hope you get that!
I’ve never seen a more judgmental review. Ironic considering the source material. I realize you’re obsessed with the stage version but seriously, move on. This is a film version. It’s not going to be a direct adaptation. Millions of us won’t get a chance to see a professional stage production and we’ll enjoy this for the wonderful film it is. I have to say, this need you have for the 4 broadway leads to be backstory-less caricatures is as harmful as the prejudice they’re fighting against. It’s not only about these two girls finding their way, it’s about 4 jaded, lost individuals finding their humanity.
well, I didn’t mean to come across judgemental so apologises for that this was just my raw react, maybe I should have done my react to me watching to for the second time where I was more content with stuff. yeah I do love the show, it did wonders for me through my personal life so I was aware myself that I had a big expectation, maybe a little too much *but* I did say at the ending of my video that as long as this movie brings joy to those who had never heard of the prior adaptions then that was all that mattered, I was simply just expressing that I was disappointed by the cuts made, that’s all. In my personal opinion, the 4 broadway characters had development regardless of the long scenes I said held no purpose, you disagree and that’s cool. I was just stating my view is all, and yeah I was let down by the cuts so maybe I got a little too vented over it, but I agree the movie is great so long as it fulfils its purpose to people, sorry if it came across any other way :)
I completely agree with you on everything some of the comments are too harsh on you lmao. James did decent but he's just not it for the role. It should've gone to a gay actor. And the amount of screentime he got when it's supposed to be about Emma and Alyssa is just so dumb. But it's Ryan Murphy so what did we expect. And I like Beth's DeeDee more because calling Barry's mom in the movie without his consent was just not it. The Broadway show is so much better and I don't despise the movie but it could've been so much better. I love Jo and Ariana's Emma and Alyssa a lot as equally as I do Caitlin and Izzie's Emma and Alyssa. Also the fact that James got nominated for a golden globe for this role is just wrong on so many levels. This movie could've been so much better and I would've preferred a pro-shot of the show like they did with Hamilton but it is what it is. Also Andrew Rennels and Nicole were really good.
well thank you for seeing my point of view! I've said a few times in the comments that for me it's not the fact james' is straight it's just he didn't fit the character for me and yeah the biggest thing for me was emma and alyssa getting cut but I too loved jo and ariana!! I'm still wanting a pro-shot though too
I’m just gonna say this, I don’t agree with all of your opinions, but I respect them. I think you’d really enjoy the book because the audio is narrated by Caitlyn and it focuses almost entirely on Alyssa and Emma
There's a song in the credits that I think is sung by Barry to mrs. Green that sounds like that moment you mentioned where Harry tells mrs. Green if she keeps there he goes she's going to lose her daughter forever I'd like to the full song of that moment and I think I would have rather had that they have the entire with his mom but I don't hate it but I definitely don't like it and I definitely don't like that DD calling his mom isn't fully framed as a bad thing. Like it's in character for her but it's still kind of fucked up even if it does turn out well
See, I like James Corden in this role. He plays it well. He’s already a flamboyant person, so his portrayal isn’t him going overboard to seem gay. His voice is sort of a gay voice, but: A. Oh well? Some gay people do talk like that. It’s not like it’s a false stereotype. B. He’s British and putting on an American accent, it might just be what his American accent sounds like. He’s not taking away roles from LGBTQ actors, because this film is loaded with them. Andrew Rannells is gay, and he’s playing a straight (or at least not stated as gay) character. I didn’t like the whole extra bit they put in with his mom, but overall, I liked him in the movie. I felt he did a good job. As for the other stuff...I don’t like the fact that they cut the Emma/Alyssa stuff, I don’t like that they gave Dee Dee and Tom more romantic screen time, I don’t like that they cut out some of the more controversial jokes... But I liked the movie.
I guess it's just down to personal preference. I personally just felt like he was trying too hard and personally I don't have an issue with straight people playing LGBT roles so long as it feels right, it just so happens that this didn't. I don't think Trent's sexuality was ever addressed so it's always been my own interuptation that he isn't straight but again that's down to different view points! James wasn't awful, he just wasn't for me. I'm glad you liked the movie!!
@@becsreacts2568 I’m just scared because I’m 13 and if the dame thing happens to what happened with Emma in the film, I’m not sure j will be able to handle it
@@Mutatedcorpse you're still young and still have plenty of time to find a way, no one deserves to hide themself away but also you don't need to push yourself into something you aren't ready for, and yes, what happens to emma is awful but the silving lining with her story that many others can attest too in relating is that she had many people around her that loved her and became her found family, i hope with all my heart that when you do find the time to come out to your mum that she accepts you fully, but always know regardless you will never be alone cause there will be plenty of people that do love and accept you.
@@becsreacts2568 considering I had no idea what the film was, my mom just called me and said hey we should watch this and we did. I didn’t know it was formerly a Broadway production so o basically went in with a clear mind and I really enjoyed it. I can understand if some fans feel it didn’t do the og show justice though.
I relate totally to your frustration about things being cut. I am old enough to know how they would cut songs to fit on LP's.... It would drive me crazy. I'm so glad I lived long enough for youTube and CDs. But honestly I thought the movie Barry was better than the Broadway Barry.
I think some people are mad because of: 1) they cut a lot of Emma and Alyssa’s screen time to give it to him 2) is a straight actor playing a gay role (this one can be more forgivable because there are a lot of actors playing gay or straight characters without being one) 3) James Corden is a bad person
Personally, this could just be me, but I saw the lack of Emma and Alyssa together as a way of showing how they didn’t get much time together. Cause Alyssas mom is so protective and it would make sense that they don’t get to spend much time together. However I understand people’s disappointment when it comes to stuff being cut, but I think that also just happens with stage to film adaptations. But overall I think it was a very well done movie, obviously not perfect, but overall well done. I also agree. I would have loved to cut out the part when Barry tells his story and instead have him just brush it off. And then the scene when he wants to call his mom, as an audience we would understand the connection. I also kind of wish his mom didn’t come into the movie physically instead a phone call maybe I don’t know.
no for sure it's like I said they don't get time together as it is so for me it was disappointing seeing that the scenes they did have together were cut even more if that makes sense?? and I personally feel like there should have been more scenes with alyssa working her stuff out rather than the scenes of barry and dee dee's past, I get the film is giving them more humanity butttt it just didn't seem worth it to me, like you said it was a well done movie for sure there were many strong points, I was just a little let down with the directions they took (I'm 100% with you on the mum thing)
I also didn't like that you happened to get short. it's upsetting we get the straight couple's back story but not theirs. I don't mind berry but I do agree we don't spend enough time with Emma and Alsea
honestly if they hadn’t have cut that song the way they did I’d have loved the film a lot more that’s how important I think it is to their relationship
@@becsreacts2568 do I like the movie immediately I've never seen the musical I've only listen to the soundtrack to a hundred times and I've looked up like a few of the TV spots they've done. Also I didn't actually notice that they cut dance with you a little short are the only one that noticed that they cut short was you happened and the acceptance song I didn't even really mind the acceptance song getting cut down because it's kind of my least favorite also Trent gets a better song and it's one of the best parts of the movie at the very least so but you happened getting cut down was a mistake
I’m like 2 months late but I need to scream. Sorry long comment incoming. Firstly, I don’t get why people are being so negative in this comment section. You clearly stated how important this musical is to you, you’re allowed to say your criticisms of the movie (especially the Emma/Alyssa ones. Why cut all their scenes/songs like that?? It feels like this movie wanted to show off their big A list actors and forgot to focus their story on the lesbian couple and their struggles which is what we came for!) Secondly, I really hate what they did with Barry and his relationship with is parents. He was already over being upset with his parents, he’d moved on from that part of his life! He now was supposed to be a cautionary tale for Alyssa’s mom about how if she didn’t get past her homophobia she would lose her daughter just like his parents lost him! Why ruin that parallel?? I’m so tired of movies/tv shows making gay characters have to make up with their homophobic families!!! Why not let Barry be an example of a gay character who doesn’t need his parents or their approval in order to be happy?! Thirdly, what Dede did was so gross and out of order! She should have *never* called Barry’s mom and forced his hand to meet up with her like that.
Okay so the point isn't that the actors didn't do a great job because they all did. It's just they kind of took away the attention from Emma and Alyssa while making them back round characters. While putting the spotlight on the straight couple and making the movie seem like it's all about them. Also James Corden is taking the role away from a person that is part of the LGBTQ+ community. Also they cut almost all of Emma and Alyssa's dialogue and gave everyone else more dialogue. In conclusion KEVIN CHAMBERLIN WAS RIGHT THERE COME ON!!!!!!!
If like James Corden did job. He didn't try and sound gay because that's not a thing that's a stereotype. I can see that James tried his best with this roll and so what if he's not gay. Barry being gay does not defy who he is so why does for James. And the American accent is kind of difficult to perfect. (I laugh every time people try to do the South African accent because as a South African I know people suck at it but I don't attack people for it because I know it's hard and so is the American accent to people who aren't American.
In the beginning I do feel like he tried to make his american accent somewhat more “feminine” and just came across to me as trying to hard to empathise that Barry is a gay man, his accent and performance as a whole got better as it went on, just not the right fit for me, but I agree with you accents can be tricky
i mean i think it’s simple... the main characters of the prom movie aren’t the girls. lol it’s a view point switch and an adaptation to appeal to a larger audience. sure the broadway fans are appreciated and loved and blah blah blah i’m also gay and i love gay people blah blah blah but a hell of a lot of people only pressed play on netflix because of james, meryl, nicole, kerry, andrew and keegan. i think it was a smart decision in general and a smart business decision. a lot of people were able to digest this beautiful story regardless of how true it was or wasn’t to the broadway show. tbh i’m sure like 90% of the people who saw this movie have no clue it was even a broadway show. lol. idk i loved the movie... and also i think james was actually great in this film.
yeah I get they switched the view which I do state in my video along with my personal opinion that I didn’t really like that, but other people did so that’s cool. a part of me does think that the film would have done well even if all the A listers weren’t at the forefront but again that’s just my own point of view, but yes like I said in my video i’m sure those who didn’t know the show would love the film and that’s great, just for someone like myself I was left a little disappointed that’s all :)
Plus I am curious who are you meeting in the pics behind you. It looks like Chyler Leigh. I just can't tell. If it is Chyler I have an awesome one to share.
yes it is chyler, I've been blessed to have been in her company a few times over the years, one of the most beautiful souls I have ever gotten the pleasure to know x
My daughter is autistic. So Nathan and I sort of bonded over that. Chyler just asked me questions. It was nice to just stand and talk to the both of them.
James' Character is supposed to be super fem anyway. And sexuality is a spectrum. I'm a gay man and even I can understand that being gay is a spectrum. It's a journey. Plenty of people identify as straight but engage in what could be considered homosexual activity. And I think the more it's gatekept the more exclusive it becomes. The only thing I can't support is cis men playing trans women and cis women playing trans men. That is a struggle not any other part of the LGBQIA+ community can understand and is a journey only someone who is trans can really go through and experience as opposed to being Gay in which even gay men have lived out their lives with women but still were happy. Idk I feel like to judge anyone straight in a gay role isnt like race or gender identity. The lines are very blurred and should be in a lot of ways.
i hear you totally! I wasn’t judging it based on him being a straight man irl I just wasn’t sure he’d fit and I use personally still don’t, I know Barry is meant to be fem etc. and I love him, I just didn’t feel James’ portrayal as much as I’d have hoped that’s all, but I do think he got better as the film went along!
