This is a segment from the 2012 movie Prometheus that I will analyse on my blog for my UAL ED CMPT course, this video is simply to be embedded in the blog as something for an examiner to view and then read my analysis
The one thing that really just makes me smile is the overall tone of this scene vs. the tone of the engineers in the hologram. The scene plays this up like an incredible insight into a new realm of knowledge, yet the body language of the engineers suggest all they're doing is going about another normal day at their place of work. Illustrates how what is fantastical to us is simultaneously mundane to someone else.
Stellar cartography has a certain kind of beauty. Replace Psycho David with Commander Data and you get a completely different perspective. They could have taken this franchise in a different direction that would have had many sequels but now it has ignored Alien canon, and become predictable and lackluster.
This can also be applied to the whole concept of ETs in regards to our planet, they could be so far advanced from us that many of them have passed our solar system countless times and just see us as completely insignificant. Or some have visited us but have such advanced technology they can either disguise themselves to look like us, or just have some really cool stealth technology which we just dont pick up on. Or some of them have visited us many times which is where some of the stories of UFO encounters, abductions and crop circles come from. All of these ideas have been explored in pop culture and movies, which is why they're mostly just not taken seriously by most people in the mainstream of society.
There was something about Prometheus that was visually so appealing, dark and cold. The production design of this movie was the best in a movie I've ever seen.
@@dannwan8537 Cause it wasn't a P2 , but a C1 forced by producers and financers . Scott still wants to make a P2 , hopefully he gets the chance to do so.....
The idea of an artificial mind created a species of predator is too much even in Alien reality. An AI can be clever and advanced but lack one thing. A soul.
People say this was a bad movie for not supplying answers and raising more questions, I say this was more of a one part of an introduction to lengthen the mystery bit on the Engineers, it sure got my attention...
Kenneth Satria got my attenetion too. The engineers made themselves to be genetically perfect. They decided to create mankind but then changed their minds and wanted them all dead. All we know is the end result. The engineers created the xenomorphs and they are bio weapon made to wipe out other lifeforms.
Kenneth Satria It worked because now all I see from comments for the new Alien: Covenant trailer is "Where are the Engineers?!" "Why aren't they in the movie?" - First people were pissed about having no aliens, now they get aliens but are pissed about not seeing Engineers. People are never satisfied.
Huh, well that's how fans usually react to new things. I say we should just wait to see what the directors are gonna do, too much in one movie or repetition can mean disaster for a franchise, first we get the introduction to the engineers and then in Covenant we get to see the origins of the xenomorph species... a delicate pacing is in order to get the most out of things and so far it is very logical, Here's hoping the predators will get involved sometime later... I really like those guys
How in the world this movie reviewed poorly is beyond my comprehension. I thought it was brilliant. Especially in a time where 98% of new movies are complete crap.
Russ G It was probably too complicated for the non fans compared to the alien movies when you ironically know what to expect, possibly boring to watch in cinemas?
This is one of my favorite scenes in cinema. The music. The look of amazement on David's face. Watching a replay of the engineers in the past do what is completely normal for them, but fascinating to us.
I want to hope or imagine that if we're not already then super close in the next 5-10 years (~2030ish) that we should have some tech similar. Maybe not for the whole milky way galaxy but a good amount. I don't really even keep up with it much, but imagine what VR can do now. Imagine how awesome science classes can be now and astrology
we never will be like that. cause humans are unable to work together. if we would put all resources all knowledge together and try to survive as 1 human species, it could work. but we have america, and they want to be the strongest force on earth so it will never happen, that we reach stage 1 civilisation. @@ThatScythe
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Yes they could have. I believe/know this is what Shaw had wanted to do, but David has his own plans for "creation". You blame Covenant, but how else is the story to progress and what do you think the main purpose of the Alien franchise/universe or a horror/slasher movie supposed to be? That's what I think the very beautiful thing is about Prometheus and Shaw's character is they give the series the philosophy, wonder, and hope for what's out there in the universe and from our creators, yet you have to remember, this is an alien horror movie, and yes, even realistically us meeting other aliens/life forms could actually be hostile and be our own undoing. Also our own creation (David/AIs) can be our undoing as well and without the proper empathy and morals, David sees the flaws in his own creators and other life forms and wants to use the Engineers weapons of genocide to wipe out life to start over again. How his mission ends is unknown yet
@@ThatScythe I actually had a vision of Shaw and David stopping at the various worlds we saw displayed in the Orrery scene. Every one would provide a piece of the puzzle for Shaw and David would learn and grow beyond his initial programming. There could have been many sequels but, after watching Covenant several times it occurred to me that this branch of the "Alien" tree jumped the shark with John Denver. "Alien's" trajectory is well known. "Prometheus" could have been the basis for a Lara Croft-style adventure series. We've seen Xenomorphs, Predators, and now Engineers. The story of why none of them have been encountered by the time of "Alien Resurrection" could have been a good one, but it appears that Disney would rather put its money into the Star Wars universe.
The engineers taught David all that he needed to know about their ops, and because it was soo technical his psionic brain recorded every nuance exactly as seen.
The movie is flawed, but when people say it's "terrible" I can't take it seriously because of scenes like this. What a powerfully shot and directed scene.
It’s more than just visuals, it’s the way the visuals, music, and acting work together to give off the sense of wonder. That’s what separates art from trash. It’s able to capture the human experience
My favourite part is a piece called "Debris," and it plays right when the ship is plunging to the ground and dropping fiery pieces of the Prometheus with it.
The best thing about this scene is how wonderful the feeling of ignorance and discovery is. We were amazed at the discovery of another alien's day at work, yet what they were working on was to exterminate humanity.
【Prometheus Soundtrack】 made by Harry Gregson Williams and Marc Streitenfeld , the name is Engineers Flute Source, it's only 6 seconds, but I can't found it on youtube
Ridley scott if you see this, you have done a perfect job, taking HR Gigers work to another level, Please continue the path on the engineers and discontinue the alien creature for some time, this is just amazing!
I agree sure it had a few flaws like a handful of dumb scientists but it also had so many intriguing ideas which deserved to be explored further in sequels. Looking back i honestly believe the hate stemmed from the fact some Aliens fans out there were worried Ridley was going to move completely away from the Xenomorph creature and they wouldnt see the Alien again, and thats why they so heavily attacked the movie. But i think if fans would have only been patient and given Ridley a chance, i firmly believe he was simply exploring the Engineers the ones who discovered the Xenomorph eggs and started experimenting with them, resulting in the urns. I think if Ridley had been allowed to carry on he would have connected things up perfectly into the original Alien film, and by that point he could have stepped aside and there would have been so much expansion and things opened up, for Neil Blomkamp to come in and do his planned Alien 5 movie. Trouble is Ridley kind of gave in to these picky, impatient and cynical group of Aliens fans, trying to please them with Covenant, instead of sticking firmly to his overall vision and making that movie exactly how he wanted.
A superior species No Doubt that quote gave me chills this movie who is the best sci-fi movie I've seen 10 times. The first time I saw that chair I told myself that is a most beautiful chair I have ever seen.
MonkeyZorr yo you should learn to respect people's opinions. no one is asking for you to say this is yours favorite but people are entitled to this opinions and decide what they like or don't.
I don't understand why people don't like this movie. It's fantastic. Literally everyone I knew who went to go watch this in 2012 were being such haters
On its OWN, it's fantastic. As part of the overall Alien franchise, it's a horrible inconsistent mess. People went in expecting a prequel to "Alien" and instead got a piece of visual art.
Starting with the flute played in E phrygian E G F E .... and the proto indogermanic language which was spoken by those humanoid beings etc they coming from da east but a very far away east 😂😂😂
and become existentialist, or should i say ubermensch? enlightened? couldnt agree more, dude. love kind of movie that make people "get out of the cave"
The COOLEST thing about this scene, which in itself, from the cinematography, cgi and music is absolutely amazing sci-fi - is - that one of the engineers - who are such highly advanced beings with amazing technology, just uses a regular FLUTE and simple sounds to activate their ships deck :D This is sooo cool. It basically says, that, even if you are a super highly advanced being, which possibly has overcome the hurdles of lesser advanced beings, like the need for food or participation in the survival of the fittest and everything negative that comes with it like greed, vain, social competition, -- the beauty of music will always be something your soul needs & can appreciate ^_^
fuckyou7037 Check out those deleted scenes, extended scenes. They add something to the movie. I've downloaded them from torrents for I'm a pirate arr. Not all of them are finished and you can see how some effects are made, e.g. talking head of David. Try looking Prometheus Extras.
Technology is just a tool. Their evolved culture will also be way beyond our imagination, like outgrowing the monetary system and wars. Once you can travel in space, you don't need to fight under unlimited resources.
Jimmy KEL Actually their tech looked a bit crude and outdated if you compare the UI and instrument panels with our planes and fighter jets or even trucks. Probably their spaceship technology and design have evolved over this time
@@renovatiovr Outdated ? their race is traveling space and seeding life on countless galaxies for billions of years and humans are just started colonizing planet for not even hundred years in this movie. Engineers don't need to evolve anymore they already reached their highest point cultural or technological wise. Their ''machines'' are just their preference they don't even need to flex their superiority, don't you understand just by looking at their flute activating system ? traveling universe and seeding or harvest life is just another day for them, also do not forget their ship didn't even get scratch from kamikaze attack in the end.
Interesting scene especially given the recent media interest in unexplained vehicles and craft seen in our skies. More intelligent beings have been here and visited for alot longer than we think. Life has always existed beyond what we know .
Earlier in the movie they show our star maps, ships and tech, then in this scene they show how advanced the Engineers star maps, ship and tech were 2000 years ago. Look at Davids expression at .40, was that part of the script? Makes me grin every time.
Production Design is fantastic, Fassbender’s acting is, as always, superb, the rest is a mishmash of half decent snips of ideas. A pity, it could have been a really thought provoking franchise.
David wasn't smiling because he discovered the Engineer, he smiled because he now can put into motion the plan to put everything else expendable... This proves the company then and now in Alien onward were only interested in getting that life form back into their greedy hands at whatever it takes, even at the stake on the lives of the Prometheus crew.
Ah, yes... Bishop... But dang it, the good droid had to get skewered, ripped in two, then dumped into a garbage pile in the end... But for David, he deserved getting his head ripped off.
I dont think they have discovered the real 'engineers' of humans/earth,,these look and act more like the so called ''fallenangels'' hence their androgenity and strong desire to destroy humans. He was in hybernation because of the bioWMD they made (for other angels'' perhaps) got out of control,,Like the lead protagonist says ''an outbreak'' and also the captain states that its probably a military ship. They are seemingly engaged in a conflict with other similar advanced beings. And there is also the obvious fact that they are not that much better then us as we can travel like they do and offcourse as demonstrated outwit them and kick their arse..;-)The AI I thought was very believable, I think he smiled because he had good news for his father to make him proud, as the father obviously preffered the AI as son instead of his own flesh&blood daughter,. However i doubt that the AI is really trustworthy because of his line''doesnt every child wish his parents dead''. So although being AI he does illustrate human characteristics. This film is a Brilliant fantastic piece of art if you ask me,,with so many layers to it, and meaning. Hope they will make a part 2 where we get too see other ''angels'' and perhaps a glimpse of the real ''engineer'' and much more.
Ridley Scott played Dark Side Of The Moon for Michael Fassbender when they shot this scene. Isn't that just the greatest thing ever? Just knowing that Ridley likes Pink Floyd makes me love him even more
Awesome scene. We got our hands in the cookie jar and knowledge we didn't earn...we learn that we're not top dog and yet see a glimpse of what's beyond us...
I luv this scene this and the opening prologue are my fav scenes in this film, its just such a shame how its all gone we're most likely never going to get a continuation of the Engineer's and another sequel now to really connect everything up.
What’s even cooler is the whole backstory on who/what/when/where, of these “engineers”. I wish they made a whole series (not just a series of movies) on this. There’s a channels that got into the whole thing!
0:10 "Hey Fred, these hard-boiled eggs that Joe brought for the film crew lunch today taste kind of nasty!" "Yeah! Maybe we can use the rest of them on the set for something?"
“Prometheus was punished by the gods for giving the gift of knowledge to man. He was cast into the bowels of the Earth and pecked by birds.” -Oracle Turret
I like how half of Prometheus captures your imagination and appeals to the child in you with all of its imagination like Halo and the other half has the typical gross-out stuff you would expect from an Aliens movie.
Oswald Sweezlebogger I thought it was just me thinking that. like his smile when he sits down. it's what I loved about character when I first saw the movie! he was my favorite. his ability to think beyond his programming made him special though of course the moral dilemma this leads to kinda sucks. i hated how he was treated in this film. after watching covenant he remains my favorite, joined by his counterpart. perhaps I just have a thing for synthetics, or more likely for Fassbender 🤣, but they remain, along with the engineers the most fascinating things to from the franchise
Prometheus has a lot of faults but scenes like this, with its special effects, stage design, costumes, lighting, editing and Fassbender's performance really are memorable.
It's funny I always thought that subtle note played at 1:48 was such a beautiful and mysterious addition to the soundtrack. I only just realised it was a sound effect in unison with the circle lights.
I keep telling people that it was called _Prometheus_ not _Alien: Prometheus_ for a reason. If you can overlook some ordinary side characters and dialogue in the script, it was a great standalone film.
I wonder just how old that hologram is, must be relatively new in relation to millenias considering the landmass is depicted on the holographic "Earth" is already split to become independant, meaning that's not Pangaea we're seeing.
I saw this movie when it opened in 3D. This scene was fucking amazing. Apparently while they were filming this scene, Ridley Scott put Pink Floyd’s DSotM on to set the mood. Fuckin’ A.
Remarkably, refreshing noble moment in a franchise that prides itself on what amounts to trying to outdo the first 10 minutes of Saving Private Ryan with claws instead of bullets.
Definitely a film I found myself reevaluating after Covenant released earlier this summer. Both films tell a large portion of what the old ALIEN: Engineers draft wanted to before Lindelof's involvement changed it's tangent into Prometheus which is interesting for the way it makes the Engineers more significant, now the work of ALIEN:Awakening will be to tie it all together in a satisfying way for 1979's ALIEN to be setup...
Think this scene just goes to show, how superior an artificial entity is to a biological one. Just seeing this, David was able to comprehend how the ship functioned & navigated it. Oh did I forget, he also figure out how the bombing weapons operates. Maybe, that's why the Engineer was so hostile to David, maybe they're hostile to all artificial lifeforms?
They were hostile to him because a human dared to compare himself to a god because he created David. They already had decided that Earth was not worthy because of human cruelty. There was a script you may find it narrated in RU-vid but basically it recalled an event of engineers giving human one last chance by taking a human boy teaching him and sending him back to Earth in hopes that he will pass the knowledge and will end the wars. The boy was crucified. And humans just got worse with time so they had the lanes to destroy Earth. So technically Elisabeth saved Earth. David launching those missiles was a more of a statement humans created him and believed to have right to mistreat him and treat him like a slave, gods or engineers created humans and while what he and Elisabeth encountered what seemed an inferior race not equals to the engineers he still comités genocide because he could and because in a sense it meant freedom. If he is capable to destroy the ones superior to humans he no longer needs to obey them. Not that it really mattered as he was left alone there. I feel like if he just thought for a second how bored he would get to the point to ending up creating new species (because his complex) he would have kept poor Eli alive.
If y'all like this scene, there's a pair of games for Virtual Reality, The Gallery, that have a very similar tone and feel to them in many parts. But, it's VR, so the sense of wonder is magnified like tenfold. lol.
⚫️I deeply wish that Prometheus was it’s own movie & had ZERO relation to the Alien franchise❗️ 🖤If Prometheus was it’s own Universe - I believe that it would have been hailed as one of the best sci-fi movies of all time, and it would have created sequels, prequels, side stories, books, games, entire series, etc.🖤 🖤The idea behind it is absolutely GENIUS, and it should have gotten much more RESPECT then it received❗️ ▪️My theory behind why Prometheus got such low reception is as follows: The movie was trashed all because of Alien fans, and the reason is: ➖ DUN DUH DU H DAHHH ➖ ▪️The fans of the Alien universe are NOT true Sci-Fi fans❗️ ▪️The fans of Aliens are in reality BODY HORROR fans❗️ ▪️Fans that love a BODY HORROR that just so happens to be set in a future space❗️ 🖤So I contend that all the people who loved Prometheus, and wanted more of the Universe ➖ Those of us who wanted MORE ➖ We are the TRUE Science Fiction fans❗️🖤 ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯💯🖤🖤🖤👌👌❗️
As much as I love this scene, I personally believe it would’ve felt a lot stronger if instead of using “Life” from the beginning of the film, it would’ve used “End Title” from Alien. I feel that this movie uses “Life” a little too much, and that this would’ve been the right moment to use the theme from Alien, both for means of a throwback to the past, and giving a musical presentation of the vast and infinite universe that this scene- and the original Alien- revolves around.
