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@shaunjonesfitness excellent vid! I recently witnessed my mate (Tongan 6”3) ex Muay Thai fighter get mowed over by huge roided-up 6”8 Bikie…..we were all shocked 😮!
I been a bodybuilder for around 9 years and this guy definitely has a crazy physique. Anyone who thinks other wise is either winning pro shows or has no idea what they're speaking about. I'm glad that he is getting in to boxing and maybe even doing more then just bodybuilding. Its hard once your in to the sport to step out of your comfort zone.
I agree with you 100%. Trained muay thai most my life but the first time I walked into a gym for weights I genuinely felt lost. Respect to anyone who tries something new. Just remember lads, the hardest part of it is getting through the front doors, focus on doing that first and the rest will come I promise.
So with the title and the intro being “we should really put this video in the ufo category” really got my hopes up to see bodybuilders being catapulted during a fight.
The reason a lot of lifters don’t transfer to fighting well is they have different movement principles. Putting 500 lbs 225kgs on your back to squat you want to be as rigid as possible and only move the joints you intend to. Bodybuilders additionally also often focus on working a single muscle at a time. Fighting requires full body coordination and fluidity, things that hamper or are dangerous with lifters main intentional movement patterns.
From my little experience with the gym the problem was your body becomes very thight by doing all these exercises and the speed you get tight again and again after every training is higher then your ability to properly stretch and relax back. It's like making all the heavy exercises forces your body to adapt to it and tightening your body is a safety mechanism for stabilisation.
Nah man, someone who trains 6 months and gets to squat 120 kg would beat the same guy that never squatted. Bodybuilders are extreme end of the spectrum. Weight lifting is useful in fighting
Alistair Overeem was practically a body builder and an incredible kickboxer. Edit- At the end of the video, he asked for examples of people on both sides of the spectrum. Alistair was the size and body fat percentage of a body builder. Also, news flash, body builders are on gear too.
Yes let’s bring up the 0.01% of the world as an example who actually trained in combat sports regularly since he was 17 and he was juiced up 😂 ffs 🤦♂️people don’t know shit.
@@Spartan69117 right, almost said Brock Lesnar but it's just so blatantly obvious he's juiced out or was. 😆 There's a few like Usman too that's 36 years old and has extreme backnee
I have several ammy fights, trained and competed at lightweight all my youth. I was terrified of body builders, a few would train in the background at my gym, just lifting. Then I sparred one. Its like sparring someone whose underwater and has bungee cords pulling their arms back. He would catch me on my shoulders in the beginning and would move my entire body. But they didnt hurt at all. It was light sparring a human couch.
People always seem to confuse an inability to kick with too much muscle. An athlete is defined by flexibility. If bodybuilders were flexible then they’d be monsters
It's not that simple. Bodybuilders work to hypertrophy muscles, hence targeting a different type of muscle fibers. Besides, they often have a rather poor aerobic capacity.
@@0rtaz ... well actually standard bodybuilding training actually does train the muscles fibres with strength and endurance. The issue is that it doesnt train much in the way of capillarisation. An enduring muscle is worthless without blood supply. Its Strength and Power athletes that target the type 2B muscle fibres. Type 2A is bodybuilding.
Very impressive movements from the big guy. He probably started martial arts before hitting the juice and kept doing it constantly. Jujimufu is another example of this with his insane jumping power - started doing backflips and saltos at a young age and kept doing it as he got bigger..
I’m 6’4 285 lbs with 38 years experience in the martial arts and size makes a huge difference from when I was younger and lighter. I’m thinking about going back to 250
i mean fighting is a skill that mostly anyone can learn with enough time so anyone can really do it, its not really about size or hight but skill set in that individual.
houston jones is a bodybuilder with an legit martial art background. martin ford also is a bodybuilder that does martial arts an jujimufo has amazing flexibility
I knew a dude that trained his whole life, did gymnastics as well. He turned to body building because he always had a flat build. The dude became such a force gaining all the muscle whilst maintaining his agility and flexibility. Till this day he’s a force to be reckoned with.
@@D4ng404Forreal, exercise actually improves the ability to learn new things via bdnf and improves mental toughness this dude got them shakespear Jack the Ripper vibes
Bodybuilders usually punch in the same way they use weights, its a mixture of muscle memory and just lack of shoulder flexibility that leads to them being uncomfortable and possibly getting injured
The thing is with bodybuilders they have been trained to isolate their muscle movements to maximize muscle gains. It takes a bit of retraining their brain to strike properly with their core and legs instead of just arm punching.
As a amateur bodybuilder, I say that I cannot fight, especially not like a pro. But I hear “all that muscle can’t stop a bullet” far more than “all that muscle doesn’t mean you can fight”
Meaning you can make peiple avoid you by the looks. You make them fear. But if one pass this psychologic point they can reach you. But majority of peiple would not anyways lol
Being a body builder doesnt mean you cant fight, but if u only bodybuild, then u most certainly cant fight. Some of these comments bringing up pro fighters who are large and muscular as a reason a bodybuilder can fight, no its not. Someone who trains to fight can fight, irrelevant of size
The problem with these jacked guys is in a street fight they won’t just throw down they will ALWAYS go for the bear hug and slam or tackle. Cause they have the strength and usually the weight advantage.
As long as you don't take gear and eat 4-5K calories a day you can 100% take the fundamentals from bodybuilding on top of training a martial art. It takes like 5-10 years of training specifically for size to get anywhere near the size of these guys and you have to do that entire period without changing your workout regime to cut down weight instead. Don't make the mistake of assuming all bodybuilders look like these guys - they are the extreme and obsess over their size 24/7. Higher repetition/volume sets help create muscle size and low-rep high weight (same exercises) trains strength, cutting and bulking phases keeps your weight and size under control. As Shaun said, just make sure you do both. You are in control of how big you get by what you eat. You can do the exact same workout as Mr Olympia for years and you won't get anywhere near Mr Olympia size unless you are eating enough calories and protein. You will get stronger. Keep your food clean and always warm up and down with high intensity cardio like sprinting, bag drills. Using apps to track your calories and workouts helps tremendously because as long as you do enough cardio to be burning weight on top of the body building, you're going to be getting freaky strong for your size and start developing a physique a little bit like Bruce Lee if you start like I did, small and skinny with a fast metabolism - or an 'ectomorph' rather than an 'endomorph'. I started doing 'Push' workout Monday , 'Pull' Workout Tuesday with legs, Wednesday Off. Both days start and finish with cardio. When you get to the point that you aren't broken for the rest of the week, do each session twice a week instead with one day off. You only need 1/1.5 hours per workout if you don't stand around talking for ages. When I first started I had people in the gym laughing and asking if I was on steroids because I couldn't bench the empty Olympic sized bar (it weighs 18KG) and within 6 months they had all quit and instead people were coming up to me in the gym to shake my hand and point out how much progress they saw me make because I was benching double my body weight and doing dips with a 20KG plate strung off my neck by a chain bicycle lock. People still didn't notice I worked out until I took off my shirt or we started wrestling 🤣
I’ve never seen a body builder taught to do it correctly in a way that plays to their strengths. I don’t care what you say, if I guy can squat 700 lbs, there are things he can do other people can’t.
not really, you just need to focus on some specific exercises, you wont be doing 50 different lifts, you just do the basic for strenght and explosiveness. but if you want to compete you want to control your weight, so it really depends, if you need to lose weight for a match you wont be doing anything that will make you gain weight because thats kinda backwards.
Why would anyone think that being a bodybuilder automatically makes you a good fighter? If anything putting on a bunch of muscles makes you slower, unless it’s functional muscles. Bodybuilders will get hurt going against real experienced fighters.
Well, I'm a bodybuilder for 30+ years, also a Judo black belt and a bouncer. "Bodybuilders are slow and can't fight." Is the last thought crossing your mind, before your lights go out.
That’s why most of the time as a small 5’6 midget like myself you don’t wanna mess with big guys often because you never know if they could just completely rip you apart or not know how to fight.
My instructor made me stay relaxed, if he saw me strain a muscle (I’m not a small person) then he would make me do it until I didn’t I wasn’t stiff. Now I’m fast, loose and strong.
If being that big was adaptively advantageous than the human body would have been hardwired to develop endogenously to that state. But it’s patently a death sentence though out nature. The most ‘successful’ predators (read: widely distributed and adapted) are medium sized canines. Enough muscle to fight. Enough leaness for travel and opportunistic diets. I have NEVER seen a body builder walk into a gym and be able to strike. They can sometimes ‘hit’ sort of hard. But they can never strike.
Yeah in general most bodybuilders aren't naturally big structured men either, therefore it's kind of a short term fabrication of their true genetics. In saying that if you are in a serious cycle of bodybuilding it will counteract a lot of fight training, however if you went from the other for a long period of time and kept one of the other consistent it can be done. The real issue is, most of the guys that body build have zero fighting back ground. I think once you get to a "pro-stage" physique it's close to impossible to be an elite fighter, because even if you have the skills the body is intentionally too stiff to be able to do what you once could because again its going against the fluent motion. But props on the last guy, the most impressive thing for him is his balance. Much harder than most people think. But it really comes down to many factors. Nice video mate.
i knew a guy that broke his arm curling 30lbs on roids cuz the muscles grew so fast the required all of this nutirents and the result was brittle bones.
As an 18 year old who does sambo and I have been doing it for 2 years now its extremely interesting seeing these so called bodybuilders come and train thinking they can out muscle us especially whilst grappling these are the guys who get caught in subs and have no flexibility to get out but brute strength which is good if your fighting new comers but it only gets you so far. It is extremely important people with extremely low body fat to learn how to be flexible if not gain a bit more body fat, as it only will improve submission, defense, offense and the ability to scramble and sweep and most importantly cardio. I sparred a guy a week ago who was about 6'2 and around 260 (not bradley martyn) he had very low body fat and was absolutely chiseled for information im 6'3 long and about 190. He muscled me whilst standing but when I hip tossed in the clinch which was extremely fatiguing he was like a sitting duck on the floor he instantly tried getting up from his knees exposing his back I sinked in my hooks there was no need for a body triangle coz i knew he wasnt going anywhere and ended up choking him in under 2 minutes. This little spar was no longer then 2-3 minutes but shows how detrimental cardio, flexibility and skill is when it comes to martial arts in fact any martial arts especially grappling based ones like BJJ, Judo, Wrestling etc. Furthermore, im also an avid shaun jones viewer that has to contribute something to my skill on the mat lmao.
Low bodyfat makes your cardio better less fat and pounds to move equals better cardio. I'm a college wrestler all my teammates are 8 to 12% bodyfat. High body fat is useless to athletic performance for the most part unless your like a lineman
If you are a bodybuilder and don't train to fight, if course you can't fight. But think back to the old days of MMA before drug testing and there were guys like Mark Coleman, Mark Kerr, Ken Shamrock, jacked dudes everywhere, and they knew how to punch and kick. Of course, they werent sophisticated like the guys today, but nobody was back then, jacked or not.
Pure bodybuilder is not a fighter. But if bodybuilder has backround in martial arts he can be very very good fighter. If u want to be good fighter you need to be strong too. It helps.
Seriously jacked guys who can do the business on the street (not necessarily the ring on account of the sheer cardio capacity needed there) are not nearly as rare as people make out. Ring-wise, though, Mark Kerr comes to mind. Overeem, as others have mentioned. Ken Shamrock was a monster. Randleman, another. Actually, there's loads of them. At a certain level, bodybuilding massively interferes, but bodybuilders with decent mobility who get into the martial arts early enough have no real issues apart from the aforementioned cardio considerations. I notice on social media that when fighters build muscle, no one really throws shade, but when bodybuilders put some effort into martial arts, self-labeled fighters are all about shitting on it. Way too invested in their hardman identity to be gracious. Shame, that. 'All men are brothers' after all.
This guy Bryce should definitely be included in the MMA fight of the giant strongmans against Eddie, Ford, Hooper and Shaw! My opinion is that Ford and Hall will beat them all because the others have strength but zero skill and technique. . .Bryce would definitely be a challenge for all of them. *But you vs Zherka will be even hilarious for me hahaha you will you will beat him like a horse, oh no, horses are noble animals!* *Let's all like, share, subscribe, don't be a bitch come one for brother Shaun!* 💪
