PROOF JESUS IS A UNIVERSALIST 

Especially those who believe because they will actually be saved.

Clement of Alexandria in the early 2nd century said of God “How is He Lord and Savior if he is not Lord and Savior of all?” Well said Clement… Well said. 😊

GOD Is no father of mine he's far removed from humans like those other gods

@@briankelly9347 so removed that he became a Human, was so poor his family could only afford the turtledoves sacrifice, and lived and worked with the outcasts until his ultimate goal came, to be sacrificed for your sake- to pay for sins like your sins- if thats not love, then we could never know what is

Because Satan (meaning our enemy/adversary) will pursue you much harder because he is losing you and you are gaining Christ. It's not easy being Christian, if it were everybody would be one 😂 but people prefer their darkness of sin rather then the light of righteousness. Shalom Shalom brother

trials are meant to perfect us and perfect our obedience. Embrace and rejoice in them as long as you are remaining in Christ through them that is, for if you do endure them faithfully, there is great reward and in them you develop in character, perseverance, and hope. They are well worth the cost of admission. If you wish to share in His life you must share also in His suffering.

It got harder because it’s meant to refine and purify our hearts. ❤️

And you are also being deceived as well and if you would be in Hell you would be in the lake of fire forever and ever and you would have been tormented day and Night forever so don't get comfortable

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brother We Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Right and that eternal torment punishment is not true Because Many Christian Hold the view of eternal conscous torment and calls ùniversalism a heritic May Our Beliefs in Universal Salvation is True and Correct and may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with Us Always

​@@johnkristofftimbal5053 well guess what? Eternal punishment is true because that's what the bible says so yeah it is eternal Hell fire and sulfur which is the second death so don't believe this bull crap video and believe what the bible really says

I've learned that hell is not eternal. Eternal punishment is just one punishment. Eternal punishing is repeating punishment.

brother We Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Right and that eternal torment punishment is not true Because Many Christian Hold the view of eternal conscous torment and calls ùniversalism a heritic May Our Beliefs in Universal Salvation is True and Correct and may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with Us Always

Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist

@@johnkristofftimbal5053 do you believe John the Baptist was a false prophet?

​@@johnkristofftimbal5053 Shalom Cris Peace be to you. Very much appreciated that you want to talk to us again. Is it not written in their own scriptures? Do not be afraid, we do not have a spirit of fear but of love, power and a sound mind. Note: Love = the spirit Power is the body Mind = the soul (2 Timothy 1:7) God is love, perfect love and casts out fear, the fear of punishment. Go figure 😀 (1 John 4:18) Colossians 1:19-20 (New American Standard Bible) 19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. to reconcile *all things* to Himself. Period. God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. (1 john 1:5) The Lord our God will save everyone, all in their own order. No exceptions. Have a great day knowing that our Lord loves us all equally. Rejoice therefore. Now Cris and all my other brothers and sisters, please go out into this world and treat another as you would like to be treated. May God bless you all. Amen.

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 brother Pray for me that I will Not Go in hell for Eternity, Most ECT believe Hell is eternity Hellfire is Eternity what they Believe Pray for me To Overcome my sins and Pray for me also that i will Not Go in Hellfire Let Us Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is true and correct and that ECT is not Let Us Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Correct what we Believe

@@johnkristofftimbal5053 Shalom Cris Peace be to you. Again we thank you for your response. As we have explained many times towards you, there is no hell. That is a mumbo jumbo story to keep the masses sedated with fear. For the obvious reasons of power, money and sex. Any that preach a message of fear, your message as well, do not know God. God is perfect love. It's that simple. So stop putting yourself in fear through messages of those who serve themselves instead of God. Who are the anti-Christ. Read our messages and my beloved brother Michael his uploads as many times as needed and ask The Lord your God to increase that what you need. Thank you again for your extended time and patience, Cris. May The Lord Jesus convince you of these things that your brothers in Christ say to you in truth. Amen.

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 well.Godbless you too brother I am here from philippines Godbless you

@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 thank you brother, I Am Vince sarigumba my real name and Pray for me that I will Overcome my sins in my Life that i will be Set Free from sin and to Overcome this sins in me, for me Universalism and Conditional immortality annihilationism is what in my mind as now i dont anymore believed in eternal conscouis torment

@@user-kv5bh5ii6b it’s a spiritual application bro…humans are not dirty animals.

He’s a liar liar liar!

Enjoyed your post Only a God of love who corrects via love is worthy of veneration.

@@johndalton1043 I think that the point of justice is to correct cases of injustice rather than to enact retribution. Needless to say, a loving deity would probably prefer this path as well. Consider the following case: A person steals some money from someone else. The thief is found and punished by having his hand cut off. Now, consider the same case but this time the thief is made to repay what they had stolen. What use is there for the wronged party to have the thief maimed? This does not correct the injustice that was done to them. And once they are repaid, what use is their for society in general to have the thief maimed, given that they could be rehabilitated to become productive a member of society? Retribution rarely serves any justice, and certainly does not do so better than wise correction. I find it preposterous to call someone good, just, wise and loving, and vengeful and lustful for retribution at the same time. It is not simply preposterous. It is incoherent.

@@Nexus-jg7ev 💯! Jesus was given a similar scenario when the lady caught in adultery was thrown at His feet. Notice, He saves her BEFORE she calls him Lord. Thus, proactive salvation. Does He condemn her? Not at all. He loved her enough to save her and correct her (sin no more). I believe in a bigger Jesus than most fractions of westernized Christianity.

​@@johndalton1043no the big God or The One Above All only has domain over Muslims, jews and Christians, aropdite is a goddess of love much like paravati

The shortest path is always the best. Doesn’t mean the long way home won’t still take you - home

neither gate is referring to a city in my view. The narrow gate leads to life and represents the gate you enter if you died while abiding in Christ - you enter the afterlife by the narrow gate and experience His life in paradise with Him - which is upper Hades/the bosom of Abraham in the realm of the dead where the just dead await the first resurrection. The unrighteous dead enter the afterlife and go through the broad gate that leads to destruction. This destruction begins with a long stay in Sheol/lower Hades/hell in the realm of the dead as they await the second resurrection and Great White Throne of judgement event wherein they are thrown into the Lake of Fire for purging and correction. Only after all of these events come to pass does the New Jerusalem city descend from the sky and its gates never shut and the nations enter and received healing from the leaves of the tree which is the saints. So entering the city does not happen straight away for either party when they first die. To suggest the broad gate opens up and you just walk into a heavenly city denies all punishment and apokatastasis universalism does not teach there is no punishment at all for the rebels. It teaches there is punishment but that punishment is finite and is corrective and that it is like a refiners crucible.

One of the things to consider with the narrow and wide gate. The nation of Israel was the specific audience of this truth. They were about to go into the tribulation. Rome was about to demolish them. They knew the prophecies. They were commanded to follow Christ closely. They were to be witnesses.

This was beautiful. Thank you.

Mat 7:13-14 Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Johnny Ray we have to keep in mind that all scriptures are given specifically to the Priesthood (saints) and not to everybody. Hebrews 6:4 shows that some of the Priesthood will be disqualified from being a priest of the Lord, and may be judged with the sinner and the ungodly to be reconciled at a later time, but eventually all will be eating from the tree of life.

@@rdaleyj1 um no, scripture is given to everyone who is a man of God. A man of God is anyone who believes the gospel.

He’s a liar!

aion is eternity according to research of the Infernalist, so if its eternal then punishment is for eternity but We dont know if ECT is the Right Then What I Believe isthat most early church fathers dont believe hellfire is eternity but for Purging and Cleansing, Gods Character He is Love and Mercy and Grace and He does Not Cast people forever though He caused afflection His Loving Kindness towards us Endures Forever ( lamentations 3:31-32, Psalms 30:5)

Christmas is pagan and leads to hellfire.

@@michaelm.7814 I would like to point out that mentioning God killing everyone, including animals, to prove your ideology is a weak argument. It could give non-believers a reason to attack Christianity and ridicule God. It's best to avoid using such arguments. Punishment serves the purpose of correcting bad behavior. Eternal punishment, on the other hand, is meaningless as it cannot correct someone's behavior. As for justice, if you sin against God or someone else, it is their right to forgive you or not. If you sin against others, they will most likely forgive you after you have suffered enough, and they see that the suffering you imposed on them was not endless. This is justice. If you sin against God, it is His right to forgive you or not. While I am unsure if there is a sin against Him that leads to eternal suffering, our understanding of God is that He is merciful and forgiving. It is most likely that He will forgive you.

​@@michaelm.7814 You are right that God sent the flood to destroy the wicked, but you are wrong to think that this means they were eternally lost. The Bible says that God did not leave the spirits of those who died in prison, but that he preached to them through Christ (1 Peter 3:18-20, 4:6). This shows that God did not give up on them, but gave them another chance to hear the gospel and repent. God’s love and mercy are greater than his wrath and judgment. He does not desire anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9). The flood was not the end of their story, but a part of their journey towards salvation.

Shalom Peace be to you. Thank you for your response. If it's not too much of a stress, we would like to bless you: The Word is not the scriptures. It is a most common mistake and woefully places many in darkness. The Word is The Holy Spirit, The One and only Lord Jesus. The Word speaks through a revived spirit in ways of the heart. The scriptures are there to help, inspired by The Word, for proof and reproof the given sanctifications by God in our lives. God bless. Amen.

God is just so there must be a punishment. Otherwise, there would be no reason to follow what the Bible says. Might as well just do whatever you want.😊

@@AllInForYah God is just, not cruel. If He allows eternal conscious torment, He is cruel. If He uses the Lake of Fire to punish with the intent to correct and ultimately restore, then that falls in line with Him being both loving AND just.

@@AverageJoe87 I am not saying you are wrong but there must be some form of punishment

@@AllInForYah Although temporary and meant for correction, the Lake of Fire is still an excruciating experience. That alone is enough to make me want to avoid it.

@@AverageJoe87 exactly

Hey Jason, I’m not Michael but I would like to take a try at your question. In the Old Testament, when people referred to “The Fear of The Lord” it meant having reverence and being awestruck by Him. When people are commanded to have “The Fear of The Lord” they are being told to not let themselves see God in a mundane way, don’t think of Himself as someone common or just anyone else. Think of the proverb “familiarity breeds contempt”. Basically, it’s a command against that. Think of what happened with Judas, he lost reverence and respect for Christ and that lead to sin. Also, we should not be afraid of God because that shows a lack of love and trust that He is our Father and won’t forsake us (1 John 4:18, Romans 8:15, 2 Timothy 1:7, John 14:27) When Jesus told us to fear God, He meant it in the Old Testament sense and how a child “fears” his fathers discipline. The child is not scared of his dad and knows his father will always love him, but he recognizes that being scolded by dad is not fun, it’s the same with God. However, if we are chastised by God, this proves His Love for us as His true children (Hebrews 12:5-7, Job 5:17-18, Psalm 94:12, Deuteronomy 8:5, Revelation 3:19, 1 Corinthians 11:32). That’s why Jesus told us to not be afraid of any man but “fear” only God because being chastised and scolded by a Perfect Heavenly Father is not pleasurable or fun, but it’s necessary for our perfection.

@@anjeluriel4457 Thank you for your insight. I was already familiar with the idea that fear was simply another way of saying (what you said) reverence/respect, etc, and in no way FEAR God in the literal sense for the precise reasons you included in your examples from Scripture, which were excellent by the way! I was more specifically interested in the context in which Michael stated toward the end of his presentation. I agree that he was saying to fear (revere and respect God) and to fear (revere and respect) no one else, at least in the profound way that we should with God. By any means, I've believed in the salvation of all in full since around 2006 but suspected it to be true since I was a child (at least it was known to me instinctively, even if I couldn't prove it!). Cheers:)

@@jasonegeland1446 Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist

@@anjeluriel4457 I prefer rotherham's translation of yare/yirah. Reverence. I mean it saves a whole work around explaining the fear of the LORD/Yahweh. Just like with kolasis and aionios.

Primarily fear God and not man, but the idea can be extended fear in general. This teaching dives into that ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7o6CCeOhKYk.html

If you die while in Christ, enduring faithfully to the end - which few do, then no, you will not be disciplined in the next life which will be in paradise/upper hades/sheol/abraham's bosom under the earth in the realm of the dead where you will await the first resurrection of the dead during the 7 year period. If you die backslidden, lukewarm, He will vomit you out of His mouth and ask why you bother to call Him Lord Lord while not doing what He commands of you. In such case you will be separated from the sheep and declared a goat and put amongst the unbelievers in Sheol/lower Hades under the earth in the realm of the dead where the unjust dead stay. There you will be disciplined, regretting what you did to end up there and not able to have any enjoyment and there you will be for at least 1,000 years awaiting the second resurrection of the dead at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth. You will at that point be resurrected with the rest of the unjust dead and cast into the Lake of Fire for correction and purging. Only then will you finally be brought to humility and surrender and enter into His rest. Now Jesus did preach to the souls that disobeyed in the days of Noah when his body was in the cave and so it is possible he will do this again at some future point and that there will be possibility to repent while in Hades at the preaching there. However I would not bank on this and the Bible does not make this clear as to whether it will be available. It comes off to me more as a one time special event when Jesus did this.

There is a facebook group "The Total Victory of Christ" I post to now and then, but someone else is moderating the group for me. My daughter was just encouraging me to expand into other social media platforms. On my list of things to do.

He’s LYING!!

NOPE, THAT'D BE YOU!

@@michaelj.frazee9043 I’m not lying. He is.

@@michaelj.frazee9043 this is literally AntiChrist and anti biblical. It’s satanic deception.

I believe Michaels smooth words is decieving people to hell.

Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist

The wages of sin is death, not forever torture in fire, look here destruction is a prelude to restoration with God, and everything is just, righteous, Good, and loving, that He does, I have this verse to show you something that will help, Ezekiel 16:53 But I will restore Sodom and her daughters from captivity, as well as Samaria and her daughters. And I will restore you along with them. So we see that word Aion they even used for the (eternal) destruction of sodom can not mean forever! Because He restores sodom, God is never flawed and makes no mistakes, He cannot contradict Himself.

Watch all his videos on this channel. That should answer your questions. God bless

You must remember , Jesus commanded those who would follow Him that they must lose (geek word - apollumi, means lose, lost, perish) you life ( greek word - psyche - means soul/ life) for His sake if they want to save (Greek word - sozo- means to preserve to made well or whole) their life. This command was in context of judging ourselves through His word . Plucking out an eye, cutting off a hand, spiritually speaking . This is far preferable to having our whole life ( spiritually speaking) thrown into Gehenna judgement at once when our whole soul (psche) will be lost because it was built on lies. However, make no mistake, the way to life, for everyone, is by perishing first.

@@jeffsikes4246 I rather enjoyed your perspective and read it several times. I think this is what being "born again" means. We have the lost/parished/destroyed prodigal son, the lost/parished/destroyed coin, and the parable where Jesus will actively look for the lost/parished/destroyed sheep. In all three cases, that which is lost/parished/destroyed does not involve finality, but rather serves as a bridge to being found/saved/redeemed.

*Psalms 147:3* ❤️‍🩹🩸 *”He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.”* ♥️ *ALL SOULS MATTER* ♥️ *You can KNOW for sure you are going to heaven!* 1 John 5:13 KJB *Jesus did it ALL and paid it ALL with His Blood, because we couldn’t without going to hell forever. False (works) gospels seek to exalt a sinner’s ability to save themselves, which is impossible, while the true gospel of our salvation exalts the Lord Jesus Christ alone and His shed Blood (Romans 3:25 KJB).* *Romans 4:5* *”But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”* *Galatians 2:21* *”I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”* *Romans 1:16a* *”For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;”* *Ephesians 1:13* “In whom *ye also trusted,* after that *ye heard* the word of truth, *the gospel* of your salvation: in whom also after that *ye believed,* *ye were sealed* with that holy Spirit of promise,” *THE GOSPEL* *1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJB* 15 Moreover, brethren, *I declare unto you the gospel* which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that *CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS* according to the scriptures; 4 And that *HE WAS BURIED* , and that *HE ROSE AGAIN* the third day according to the scriptures: *THE SIMPLICITY OF SALVATION: BELIEVE (TRUST) THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED-SHEDDING HIS BLOOD AS THE PAYMENT FOR ALL YOUR SINS, HE WAS BURIED & ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY* on *YOUR behalf.* They very moment you *believe,* you will *receive* the *free gift* of salvation *instantly* and *irreversibly.* To be *born again* means to be *saved* ♥️ John 10:28 “And I give unto them eternal life; and *they shall never perish,* neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” *Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB* *”For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.“* *A CLEAR-CUT PRESENTATION OF THE GOSPEL BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED:* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xsqVaoYpnko.html *The Author Signed His Work | Psalm 44:4 - SUPERNATURAL NUMERICS of the King James Bible* *THAT PROVES GOD IS THE AUTHOR* m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fKS8-xrMKII.html *Repentance* is *a change of mind* *When you change your mind about the way of salvation to believing (trusting) in Jesus Christ as your only way to Heaven, you have repented. Though it is natural to think that you can earn his way to Heaven by good works, you cannot. When you understand that you are a sinner and cannot save yourself, and instead trust in Jesus Christ as your only means of salvation, you have repented.* *Romans 11:29* *”For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”* *GOD BLESS* 🙏🏼

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Hey Bruce! I linked a sermon of mine that I preached at my church a while back on the weeds. Maybe this will be of help to you in your journey. Blessings

@@parkerpruett4579 Thanks so much I shall look at it5 a little latwer but anything will be a help

A concordance and a lexicon is different. A lexicon is like a dictionary of all possible meanings. A concordance isnt usually as exhaustive as a lexicon. Hope this helps.

Hi Jack. There are several fractions of Christian Universalism. Some believe hell doesn't exist at all. I fall into the camp that "hell/Gehenna" does exist, but is limited in duration (universal reconciliation). In my opinion, both views are claiming Christus Victor. We do not believe in a partial Messiah. When I read Romans 5:18-19, it appears that Paul is laying out the relational status between God and man. Man's sins are due to Adam. Man is justified and considered righteous due to Christ. We read in 4 separate texts that every knee will bow and every tongue confess. The term "confess" doesn't mean to admit a wrongdoing. It means to celebrate and give praise, especially as it pertains to Revelation. In Revelation we are actually told what we will all confess. CUs usually define "aion" as "an age" instead of "eternal", unless God is the noun being modified. God adds a weight to "aion" because God is not limited time. We believe aion has been mistranslated in most commercial Bibles. It doesn't make sense in English to say "forever and ever" or "forever more". In English, the term "forever" defies pluralization. A better translation is an age, age of ages, or ages of the ages. We claim Koine Greek has a word that always means forever (aidios), but the authors did not use this word to describe punishment. Further, we claim the word for punishment (kolasis) implies correction. The authors had a word for vendictive punishment (timoria), but this word is not used to describe man's punishment in the afterlife. Add the two concepts together and I would define it as "age-abiding correction". It gets confusing, because if aion can mean "eternal" and "an age", then aion is its own antonym. If not defined correctly, one could end up interpreting aion as the complete opposite of what the author intended. Young's Literal is a word for word translation where aion is almost always defined as an age or age-abiding. Regardless, the scope of God is always eternal, as God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I hope this helps. May God bless you on your search for truth.

The Bible says the iniquities of us all were placed upon Him and by His stripes we are healed. So there was a atonement made in a ceremonial way on the cross. It also symbolized our need to be crucified with Christ loving not our own lives unto death. We must no longer live but Christ live in us to be able to claim we are alive in Christ. His death also caused Him to gain the keys to death and Hades and caused Him to obtain the name above all names. His death paved a way back to the Father and made a way for us to have our sins taken away and our consciences sprinkled by His blood. I confess this is all somewhat mysterious or at least some aspects of this I do not fully understand. Obviously it set the perfect example of selfless sacrifice that God modeled for us to follow after. It also demonstrated God's love for us perfectly in a way nothing else could. It was the greatest achievement of all achievements is clear. It certainly triggers something powerful and emotional in the heart of God and men alike to be certain. We can say that it is the only mechanism by which our sins could truly be taken away at the very least on a symbolic and ceremonial level in the sight of God and in our own consciences. It was atoning for this reason. It was a necessary model that had to be displayed for us to know what it truly is to love God and your neighbor above even your own life. It was the ultimate act of selflessness that we had to see. I would say that it was the only thing that could redeem mankind in general as a whole in the eyes of the Father - to have one man that through victory on the cross redeemed all men as far as what a man can be and what a man should be and why men are worth redeeming. One man had to do it right to make a way for all men to come back to the Father or else it would just look like man was not worth creating at all with all the failures of men in general. He proved the "human experiment" was not a utter failure in a sense - although we know that God foreknew it was not a failure for God also foreknew Christ's death on the cross from the beginning. It was largely the thing that made the whole of creation of man worth it overall and was the turning point for us to come back from our fall. As far as your statement that Jesus satisfied God's wrath in our place, I think that statement is suspect and inaccurate. After all, God is planning to pour out His wrath on the whole earth in the 7 year period. His wrath is far from satisfied then. His wrath and fiery indignation will also be poured out in the age to come. So no, it is not satisfied. What was satisfied is His principle that in order for forgiveness: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. --- this principle is somewhat mysterious to me and points to Jesus death on the cross. But why this is the only way there can be forgiveness of sins is a bit a mystery for me so far. In any case, I don't see any reason why any type of theology relating to the meaning of the cross is incompatible with universalism. Any variant on atonement or what have you seems like it could fit into universalism which is only stating that the punishment of the age to come is finite and corrective in purpose.

@@artbyrobot1 7 year period?

@@jackshadow325 Yes, every theologian in the entire country knows what the 7 year period is, every church in the entire country teaches about it, every discussion of the catching up in the sky of the church includes it. The Bible discusses and defines it thoroughly old testament and new testament. Google is your friend sir.

@@artbyrobot1 What country? America? I think only America still believes in pre-mil dispensationalism. I’m not in America.

How do you suppose that? The last thing that occurs in revelation on the timeline it gives us is everything being restored in the new heavens, and new earth. Your supposition also contradicts the idea of us having eternal life as well. Which is kinda the whole thing of scripture.

I always encourage people to not focus on this like it's a critical church doctrine. In other words, don't part ways with your Christian brothers and sisters simply because they don't yet have this understanding. They understand Christ's commandment to love others.

Thank you. That is helpful.

The doctrine of Universal Restoration, Apokatastasis in Greek, is the belief that all of creation is restored by Christ over the course of the ages, which would include Satan. Although not all of those church fathers went that far. And in the original Greek Jesus didn't say people will "never" be forgiven for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That's a doctrinal imposition in translation. He said they will "not" be forgiven, in this age, or the age to come. Which is to say, if you do this here, there, or anywhere, you will be punished. This after explaining that all sins and blasphemy will be forgiven in the age to come. But nothing about that indicates punishment is endless. Jesus gave that warning to the religious leaders who just witnessed miracles from Jesus and attributed them to Satan, demonstrating and extreme level of obstinacy. I suspect it is that obstinacy that requires serious discipline.

It does not seem permanent it seems “not forgiven”. Read Lamentations 3. It says their sin was “not forgiven” and they paid for their sin. It wasn’t permanent though. Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Forgive not and you shall not be forgiven.

My favorite is Liddell/Scott. Link to the word in question: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=ko/lasis You can find photographic archives of these lexicons online. Google Search: "Greek lexicon archive.org". I do have such copies. But biblehub, and other bible software, will automatically link you to popular Greek and Hebrew lexicons based on the bible verse, which is easier if you don't at least know the Greek alphabet to look those words up.

I try to answer questions, and the short answer is correction happens here on earth, during the intermediate state before the judgment, and for some will continue after the judgment. The presentation: "Is Purgatory biblical" you might find helpful. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ixrMITQXm5A.htmlsi=TLfOkMm9yM1Y6sr5

Can I ask, is your friend Christian?

@@joshua2400 She has accepted Jesus as her savor (some what recently)

@@kjhgfdfghjkdrtyuiwewe do both you and her agree that Jesus is the only savior and Only way to salvation?

Yes, but that destruction precedes salvation. See the parable of the prodigal son. Which gate did the son go through? It says he was “dead” and “lost”. Look up “lost” in the Greek (apollumi) it means destroyed. Same exact word as “destroy” in this verse: Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to *destroy* both soul and body in hell.

WHICH COMES FIRST From Isaiah 61 “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me…” - to bind up the brokenhearted - to proclaim liberty to the captives - opening of the prison to them that are bound - to comfort all that mourn - to give unto them beauty for ashes - the oil of joy for mourning - the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness I ask you, in each of the above, which came first? broken hearted or binding up? captive or liberty? prison or opening the prison? mourning or comfort? ashes or beauty? mourning or oil of joy? spirit of heaviness or garment of praise? The bad stuff all came before the good stuff. Is that bad stuff just an accident? Bad luck? Or “is there evil in the city and the Lord hath not done it”? So what about this? Which of these two comes first? “To proclaim - the acceptable year of the LORD, and - the day of vengeance of our God;” The day of vengeance comes first bringing captivity, ashes and mourning… unless we manage to enter the narrow gate. “for many, I tell you, will SEEK to enter and will not BE ABLE.” (not be strong enough). “To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. And they shall build the *old* *wastes* they shall raise up the former desolations.” old wastes olam wastes aionion wastes LXX “eternal” wastes Looks like the wastes and desolations come first. So the destruction of the wide gate can precede salvation.

Doesn't that suck about being a universalist 😂 we get lumped in with actual hersey

The heathen will be punished like the little spiritual toddlers that they are. Straight to time out 😂

no, this is a gnostic way of looking at it that the scriptures inherently condemns. Jesus Christ will literally and physically reign on earth.

@@sonOfTheL1vingGod Ok, well Christian Gnosticism is certainly one view that people take from the Bible. But what I said can for sure be believed by every day Christians.

@@profitglen the error is in your last two sentences. Yes the kingdom of God is here now in a spiritual sense but, the physical is yet to come as well.

The most major issue with the idea of most of the NT stuff applying to now is that physical death was introduced by Adam's sin, and christ had to die, and ressurect physically to atone for it. All of the promises to restoration are towards what was lost when Adam. Sinned, which was a deathless sinless world. If you try to interpret most of the NT promises to mean what we have on earth right now, you end up creating the issue that physical death, and suffering, and sin all obviously still exist. So then you might try to reinterpret it to mean that christ only came to die for absolution of some kind of "spiritual" death. But if you say that it contradicts why christ would have to die, and ressurect physically in order absolve what is abarently just a soley spiritual matter. Moreover it contradicts what genesis says about what sin actually did, which was bring physical death into existence. You end up making christs sacrifice, and ressurection moot, which ends up getting rid of any point of Christianity to begin with.

@@anthonypolonkay2681 interesting reply. I appreciate that!

@Sharon-jp2wm I would say that includes anyone as Jesus says anyone who has lusted has committed adultery (I.e. pretty much every man who’s ever existed). God is a consuming fire according to the author of Hebrews. Anything that is not of God is consumed and anything that is of God remains. Paul says everyone’s works will be tested and what is hay, wood, and stubble will be burned away, however, what is gold or silver will remain thereby some will be saved but only as going through fire (1 Cor. 3:15). Hopefully this imagery helps. This is very rare to find taught in Protestant churches, however, it IS present in scripture and used in several places. This was widely taught as well in early, primitive Christianity. So, yes the old man as Paul says it along with all its fruits (I.e. all sin) will be burned up, yet all that is of God and God’s fruits shall remain. This has helped me. Perhaps it will help you. 😊

Universalism was very prolific during the first five centuries of Christianity, and there was significant controversy over that question. The affirmative view was eventually condemned by Roman emperor Justinian in the sixth century. Of course that was just the politics of the day.

@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838may I ask, what is your opinion on these verses, Matthew 25:46 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” 2 Thessalonians 1:9 "They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might," The implication of the first seems very clear that those who wind up in hell will be there for eternal punishment as it blatantly says which is contrasted to the eternality of heaven and the true life it brings. The second verse seems to describe hell as eternal destruction, seemingly describing that this destruction will not ever truly end,

I just recently had a revival a few months back, I didn't understand what it even meant to be a Christian so I tried but never did my due diligence to under who God really is, over the last few months I've done 100s of hours of research and I do believe that God's love will cover *all* who fall short of the Glory of God.

@@daMillenialTrucker keep pressing into God and I'll see ya soon.

Sure, I could draw this out from the King James text. Most of our popular bible translations today are merely updated decedents of the KJV. But the Apostles wrote in Koine Greek, and what that says it what really matters.

There's a video about this on his channel...

Amen! The literal translation of the original Greek text shows that the word is "acclaim" rather than "confess". Everyone will joyfully and enthusiastically proclaim that Jesus is Lord. Thanks be to God!

Well, according to the biblical text this period of disciplinary correction extends though the "ages", so likely won't see them for a very long time for cases like that.

Jesus paid for everyone's sins on the cross. While all are to be saved, none would be saved without Christ's death on the Cross. Universalism doesn't teach that Christ's death was not necessary.

​@@alwaysadawg6488Who did Jesus pay?

​@@DIBBY40God the father thru the holy ghost

I'll explain it for you. The point of the parable is that apart from Christ we can do nothing, essentially useless. But the destruction of the useless branch is useful as you can kindle a fire with it. Of course Paul clarifies this branch metaphor is related to God's covenant with Israel. Romans 11:11-24. Christ is speaking to the people of Israel. But Paul is clear on this: "Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious." Rom. 11:11 Also, Paul specifically says "all Israel will be saved" - Rom. 11:26:27

@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Oh ok, Thanks! That passage in Romans makes a lot of sense as a universalist interpretation where the branches can become grafted in again.

I did go over those passages rather quickly in this presentation, there was a lot I needed to introduce in a short space and I did leave out some interesting details. I have some upcoming presentations that are more focused that you will likely find helpful.

@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Great! I look forward to the upcoming material. Again, I think this video is great.

Then why does Jesus say that there is a Lake of Fire and Brimstone with eternal torture throught the New Testament