I know this is a little late but I wanted to gather a lot of evidence. I also know that Renjun made a statement but it seemed really forced so I made this video anyways.
I feel so bad for them 😭 all our bois deserve to be treated well and I’m glad they have TY has their leader. I hope that they get enough popularity that all of them are brave enough to do that 🥺 ma bois ❤️
Taeyong would literally beat/roast you when you mess with him and his kids Taeyong just keeps getting braver and braver every time a staff or their manager scolded him
The first clip was a misunderstanding there was an explanation for that just wanna point out to those peeps who literally throwing hate without valid reasons
Johnny and Ten getting scolded for speaking English. The managers must be terrified that the two might exposed them without them knowing cuz they can't understand. Lol
honestly i hate sm so much. renjun is one of the most mistreated idols i know and theres no need for it, its really sad that hes not appreciated as much and him being chinese affects his status. he is equally as talented and beautiful as other idols yet he is controlled and not free enough to even talk about what he wants to.
@@lindenimedj8046 isn't that basically any company cause the country itself is kinda racist? I swear I feel like Koreans are having some drama or another about foreign idols weekly
@@seakbouy9041 they made a whole China line vlive. I mean idk what the real reason is but another video on their mistreatment said it was bc of chenji which makes a lot of sense bc they profit off of that ship
I feel the same way. I really don´t understand that darn maneger, what´s wrong with speaking English. It´s break my heart to see their faces change from sunshine to be cloudy immediately.
As an Exo-L who's tryna stanning NCT, I must say this things in not new to me. SM who only know how to use their artist to make profit and can't even protect them is the most shit SM thing is. Remember that Kris , ex-member of exo said that the company use them as a product and not an artis. The reason Kris also left is because of mistreatment of foreigner members, so it's not a surprise to me that they even let that one member (I forgot the name ✌️) to switch place with Jisung just because a chinese can't be the center. How f*cking horrible that discrimination is 😠
yes i think because a long time ago there are something happened between korea and china. But i can't believe that there are still people who mistreatment foreign members, especially sm mistreatment chinese members a lot. Well i think because there are rules about this thing so nct can't name their unit wayv nct v, i decided to name the unit nct v at first but have to change it because of that rule. And of course the same in china, most korean or chinese kpop idols when they come to china to be in tv shows, they can't really speak korean.
@@thuanhnguyen9183 true.. one thing that trigger me more is when I found out that NCT official IG account follow dream and 127 but not WAYV, it also follows all the members but not chinese/wayV members. It's as clear as sky the mistreatment there 🥺🥺
No this was found out to be him losing his air pods and he was staying there to find them but the manager was supposed to stay and he couldn’t find him 😔 that was WASNT true
They always mistreated Renjun but they doesn’t know renjun fans are the top buyers in all nct album sales and most active in social media and ready to fight back
I can’t imagine controlling people, especially some of the most wholesome people on the planet… ESPECIALLY telling Renjun to “shut up” or telling mark to stop laughing.
Frrrr that doesn’t make sense to me tf like just cuz he’s Chinese 💔💔 China and Korea isn’t at war and Chinese ppl are there in Korea legally so what’s the big deal 🙄🙄
seeing renjun getting mistreated makes me so sad like he looks like an effin angel and this is how sm treats him😔,sm should be lucky they even have an idol looking like renjun
the fact that they aren't doing anything remotely bad. literally dancing, laughing and having fun? what's wrong with these managers bruh? the day i go to korea it's on sight
Gee - Gee It’s not because they have a bad day. These kids are unfortunately a product what they try to sell well. The companies invest money in them and that’s why they treat them like shit. Every movement of them is controlled. There is an idol image that they have to fit in. Fans who really believe they see the true themselves are just delusional. In korea netizens are very critical and the kpop market is very harsh. They do it because they want be famous plus they have contracts that they’ve to fullfill. Sad but that is the kpop industry
@@ificouldflyhomewherethehea2355 Of course, Almost everything in kpop is manufactured but that doesn't mean you'd force a kid to shut up and stop laughing. Like what's the point of vlives if they're just going to be straight faced and be quiet most of the time? Sure, They could be different from what they are on camera and what they are in real life but laughing is a normal physical reaction. It doesn't matter what image the company is forcing on the idols because laughing still fits every single persona out there and is expected to be seen especially when the situation seems to elicit humor/delight in a person. Heck, Laughing can even be produced from a person no matter what the emotions they feel.
2:29 okay but this hurts cuz whenever the staff scolds them for something stupid their faces completely drop and look sad. SM CONTROL YOUR STAFF Edit: woah thanks for the likes luvs I literally just saw this
i hope someday Chenle's parents will thought of buying the larger percentage of SM's stocks and teach those people who mistreated them that they can't mess with NCT
Yeah i love it but im scared hell get scolded after and apparently like when you do something wrong there are big consequences, i just don’t want him to get hurt.
Mark being told not to laugh is like telling someone not to breath... Also let's talk about how in the beginning most of them were mistreating Renjun... *rude.*
Right? He is a laughing machine, he’a giggling all the time. When he’s laughing, you can tell he’s happy, how are they going to tell him to stop laughing and smiling?
"The female manager was described as 'not being able to control her own loving hands'" I am so disgusted and mad at the same time. How can it be so acceptable for a woman to harass a man?! How can that be so easily overlooked?!
If you look at pictures of them you can't see where her hand was and Jeno looked normal he wasn't acting weird or anything, don't try to get that manager fired before you know if she ACTUALLY harassed him
@@felixshandsonchenlesbutt1812 Theres actually a fancam of Jeno with that manager and he was smiling and laughing and if you look, one of the manager's hands is holding an umbrella and the other is holding a phone
“We can’t have a Chinese in center” Not only for nct..also EXO like Lay is main dancer but look he never been in center.It SM culture and everyone know it:)
Of course Korean agencies don’t want to make Chinese people as center anymore. Do you even know why? They are all betrayers! They don’t care about the contracts and rules! They are shame of Asia!
I feel so bad for the kids :( it seems the hyungs can handle it well, especially taeyong, but dream always look so sad afterwards. Imagine just trying to have fun and be a goofy teenager but there's adults behind the camera yelling at you to stop.
Personally I think WayV has the best managers especially Winwin manager that followed him since 2016 you can truly tell the difference between NCT and WayV live content WayV is so fun and chaotic and real and they constantly went on Insta live by themselves and talk to fans without any managers controlling them
I was so sad to see what Renjun got. these things he got at such a young age. I don't wanna blame anyone, I just love renjun so much, my heart hurts seeing this.
Staff: taeyong, dont talk Taeyong: *TALKS LOUDLY* Taeyong: kekeke Staff: taeyong, don't laugh Taeyong: HAHAHAAHAHA staff: taeyong! Don't breath... Taeyong: *breath aggressively* Disclamier: This is just a joke, i am not saying he did actually did these,
Renjun left out in the rain, Chenle being told not to sing, Mark being told not to laugh and much, much more. This breaks my heart, like how can those managers be like that to those lovely people? I don't understand. These people deserves love and supporting. They deserves to be themselves, like Taeyong said on the Vlive. Omg those managers makes me angry.
Taeyong knows he's valuable to SM, so he's got the authority to not listen to managers when they're being strict, but poor NCT Dream isn't held as high in SM's priorities so they're treated worse :(
@@owwiewowie99 i believe though that there are limitations to those contracts, plus are these workers who are Specifically hired to watch over other people really not able to be decent human beings? They aren't doing it to appeal to fans bc fans love Marks LOUD laugh lol, watching the dreamies just being kids and we stan the foreign members bc we love them, so the whole treating Chinese members like sht is BS. There have been groups or members of groups who have gotten out of contracts and even sued the company bc you literally cant treat people like dolls, They need to eat, sleep and take breaks.. instead of companies working them into exhaustion, depression or anxiety... i forgot to say this but if you want to look at it as they're companies just being companies... Then If a company were smart they would take care of their "products" like they were valuable bc thats how they make their money, including breaks for their physical and mental health...
@@owwiewowie99 did you read the beginning of my comment...? They legally at some point cant treat them like dirt lol and then I also said that people have gotten out of those contracts bc of how they were treated by their companies, which also goes to show that they can only treat them so badly...
Them telling Mark to stop laughing kinda hurt me idk why i think because Mark love laughing so much and them telling him to stop laughing doesn't feel right!!!
I know the managers are trying to avoid scandals and all that but is stopping them laughing and listening to music from a subunit of their own group really going to create a scandal? I think not.
i think that when taeyong said ''it's okay'' to use their phones in class was not a good advice to give the audience. but the rest of the vid about the managers scolding nct for having fun is not right .
Jueleti that’s not the worst advice to give though,I’m allowed to use my phone in classes sometimes but it’s better than him saying racist or mean things.
@@kayde3071 I never said it was the worst advice. He's a kpop star, he's a big influence, he just said "it's okay" to use your phone in class. Which I agree you can definitely use it, but not when the teacher is teaching
Jueleti yes I agree and I know you didn’t say it was the worst advice but maybe he didn’t mean while the teacher is teaching and I think most people get their phones out in class anyways❤️
I AM GONNA THROW SOME HANDS NOW WTF IS THIS seeing mark and chenle stop from laughing and ten and johnny scolded for speaking english makes me want to come to korea and do karate on the managers also how tf can they leave renjun in the rain without an umbrella >:((
@Bia Blood yes me too .i hope one day , when i come to korea , i want to meet them (Manager) and dance in front them while saying " R u jealous BcUz U caN't spEaK EngLish FlueNtly !!"
Renjun being left in the rain. Managers telling Johnny to not speak english which its his Native language. Telling Mark not to laugh when he loves laughing and is so bright. Scolding Jaemin (this broke my heart you can literally see his smile disappearing), Winwin fears his manager, them telling renjun to switch places since they cant have a chinese center is discrimination, NCT 127 saying they can be themselves is just painful. NCT are human beings too and them being treated like this just hurts. They treat renjun so badly when his fans are the biggest customers of NCT.
it really really breaks my heart to see them suffer like this no wonder we see them more happy when they are abroad especially when they are in the usa
MTBB yeah i remember that and it made me really mad. but most are really respectful and don't go overboard. i've seen times were they'll make a literal wall to keep other fans away from them or they'll see a member in public and respect them enough to say hi from afar and not get too close
As you can see, these are mostly Chinese members. The hatred they have is deeply rooted. They keep on debuting Chinese Idols ( because of the large fanbase )but keeps on mistreating them. It’s sad because their Chinese Idols actually brings in the $$ ( Lay, Winwin, Lucas and Renjun) are just some of their most popular members.
