This is the BEST video on JW's misogyny that has been created! I wish this could be sent to every female JW in the Organization. Or, could you imagine this being a public talk! LoL Great job on your research and for sharing it all with us, as always THANK YOU!
I thought it was a premiere with a live chat. No matter. Hello from England. Gonna love this take on Watchtower's misogyny that nearly completely ruined my life. Thank you Wally.
You ignore Biblical instruction, then. That's okay. Biblical instruction is written for those who want to follow Jesus Christ. Male and female. You see, there is a wonderful science involved in righteousness that only those participating in that teaching can embrace. You seem to think that the breakdown of the family unit has no global side effects but it is the same electromagnetic laws that hold our living cells together in genetic good health and Jesus, and JWs try to spare us from these traumas.
@@exjehovahswitness Not many do...but many of the Jehovah's Witnesses get it. Our entire health is wrapped in our behaviour patterns via our electromagnetic health and Jesus Christ taught us the science that can restore it when it suddenly buckles as it does for many people, if not all people. We will especially need that electromagnetic health when Wormwood comes and the Biblical signs say it is approaching now...and seen by many observers.
I've been enjoying the constant morning releases. I know they must be a bit of a pain for you as a creator, so sorry about that. But as a consumer, I love having your commentary an humor to join me in my morning routine. Thank you for your hard work, Wally.
Well said.i watch while I'm eating breakfast.i just hope wally doesn't get burned out.its happened to a few really good you tubers I used to watch like exjw analyzer and the great apostate
As a former PIMI, I never understood why there were never any watchtowers on strong women such as Deborah or Gael but only ones on Sarah and crybaby Hannah. It seems they never wanted to give the sisters any hope of becoming strong and powerful.
Yep. They also *never* mention sisters ruling in heaven. Only with the group of men in general "anointed". But will reference men, by name, who they think are currently in heaven!
Great breakdown! I’ve been OUT for so long that hearing these scriptures again and this stance that women must not teach or lead is so cringe to hear now. It’s a good reminder that an all loving and knowing god wouldn’t ban a whole gender, only men who wrote the Bible would exclude half their competition to gain power.
These Governing Body members, Geoffrey Jackson for example, make me sick when they have the balls to lie in court. You brought out Bible examples when God uses women in authority. They figure that people don't know the Bible. They should be ashame of themselves!
Geoffrey Jackson had the balls to lie because he anticipated (correctly as it turned out) that he would face no consequences for having committed perjury 😂!
What would Jesus do? He confided in women first after his resurrection. The men had to hear it from the women per Jesus. How do Jesus so-called self-appointed brothers compare? These men have presumptuously invited themselves to heaven. Forget the myriads of angels that have been serving God day and night for eons not to mention all of the apostles that died faithful have already earned a place in heaven. Then contrary to the scriptures demon inspired Watchtower decides they want to take the front seat apparently next to God. If that wasn't presumptuous enough they're claiming to hand out free tickets to Paradise. By who's authority? And since when does peddling toxic propaganda qualify a person to be a subject anywhere? So sorry I was a part of that demonic pyramid scam.
Glad you did this video, I have debated this travesty by watchtower many times online, trully a decietful organization, well done great video.........👍
This was fascinating! The whole changing the name thing !!!! I remember growing up they made a big deal that they are the only ones who don’t add anything or take anything out of the Bible and yet here they are changing stuff
The lack of compassion, empathy or support by the Jehovah's Witnesses, even towards its own members, is unbelievable. If a member is struggling with a mental health issue, financial problems, addictions, domestic violence, doubt, losing a child, or anything, they don't seem to receive ANY support or concern from elders or members.
They have no natural affection, because it's indoctrinated out of them with the shunning policy, sad but true, most Exjw's can testify to this, but the time is fast approaching when they will be exposed for what they are, another satanic cult built on the model of the freemasons.......👍
Since there is no official support in place, it's largely depends on the spiritual health of the individual congregation, and whether the elders are attempting to follow the loving examples of the heroes in the Bible or if they just want the title of elder. I've been in a congregation where the elders weren't all that, and I've also seen and miss the elders that put actual and sincere effort in assisting the "sheep" they were assigned to.
hey, love your videos!!!! im an X JW from Connecticut. used to go to the spanish hall so encouraging to see you share your videos and like u say, plant a seed in someone to leave that horrible organization.
Hi Wally! Great Video once again my friend👍😁 It is weird looking at how Watchtower treats Women when your out of the Organization, I just can't believe at any time I thought this was OK. It is soooooo wrong to put Women down like that it just makes me angry!!! Say Hi to the babies for me🐶🐶🐱 Hopefully talk to you soon 😁🙋♀️
Nicely done, Wally 👏🏽 my friends/fam who are ex JW’s have been discussing this since the news broke about Serena, it’ll be interesting to see what happens next within the borg and media after them gaining such a high profile celebrity. Thank you for continuing to provide excellent information!!
Saw a video on a true langue word for word translation of the Hebrew of Genesis. READS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. It reads just like a Native American or Aboriginal "creation/first existence" story. Not necessarily creation, not necessarily science. Just observation and theory. "There was this, then that happened". Less a book of God and more a book of self reflection and belief.
Wow!!! I've been watching a lot of your videos and it's opening my eyes 👀 way too much where I'm starting to feel a bit guty for some reason idk I feel that way but I know for a fact that if I mention all these things I'm learning to my father and his wife they wl stop talking to me the other day I asked her about Raymond Franz and they spoke soooo bad a bout that man say he twisted up everything about the truth and all he did was make money from books that spoke bad about jw all I said he didn't speak bad about jw at all he just gave his opinion about what he learned through his own studies so basically I defended an supposedly apostate and she stopped talking to me I'm like how can I learn anything from you guys if all you do is shut me out when I ask question smh!!! Sorry if I'm commenting on all your videos lol
Hey it is a very rough time! I wish I had someone to talk with when I was waking up so if you ever need to talk there is a phone number in the description. Feel free to call or text if you need a listening ear, to vent, or help!!! hang in there
Yes more like this please!!! THIS kind of break down is what sets you apart from all the others. So well done - throwing Bart erhman in there as a quick reference point. This is why I’m HERE. #stillseekingtruth
Hi,thank u for this video, it was enlightening to me, always wondered why I had a problem with the Victorian attitude towards women in the organisation, it was one of the reasons I disassociated. Helps me to understand some of my anger with the way I was regarded while in.
In fact Junius is a latin name for a man, but Junias does not exist at all for a man in all the roman texts and inscriptions of the first century. The real name is Junia, like "Junia Claudia", the first spouse of the roman emperor Caligula. Julius/Julia , Junius/Junia , Claudius/Claudia. This is how the latin language works ! exactly as in spanish : Alejandro/Alejandra, Augusto/Augusta. Junius/Junia is no exception to this (more than) two thousand year old rule. BUT if you can prove to me that 'this is an exception' i will accept and say 'mea culpa'😅
I am surprised you didn't mention Mary Magdalene being the first person the resurrected Christ visited to be the messenger to his apostles that he has come back. In that time, the entire "hope of the salvation of the world" was only known and revealed to a woman!!! If we aren't worth shit, thats a pretty damning account for them. 😒
Absolutely amazing how well thought out and how you are able to show that directly from the Bible. It's funny how the governing body does not read their Bible correctly or most likely they just ignore the verses they don't like. Sounds to me they're doing what the Vatican did when they decided which books of the Bible would be allowed. Most people know that many chapters and books were taken out of the original Bible. And for Jeffrey Jackson to say that is his field, is such a big laugh that he didn't catch that! However a so-called apostate was able to point that out and translate it better than the GB can!
The safe thru childbearing part was angering after thinking about TAL's pink house episode! 😡 It is scary how these people think, but they don't share that with unbelievers. #fuscotus
No cause we fr need to discuss more about the misogyny within the religion😭 like it’s crazy cause they wanna preach the whole “oh we give our sister the most upmost respect” but in reality treats us like 💩 and controls everything we do
This was excellent! I’m not, nor have ever been a JW, but I am a non-denominational Christian and encounter these same anti-female leadership arguments a lot in my own circles. This video is a great way of framing what the Bible ACTUALLY shows and I’m really interested to look more into the history of the verses you specifically cited. Thank you!
It's very convenient for some religious leaders to 🍒 pick the Bible verses . To be in absolute control. Right?? People who like to be in absolute control They have a HUGE problem. What is their problem?? FEAR. And be weak.
I don’t know what I was expecting, but I didn’t think this video was gonna be SO GOOD. I mean it’s clean and simple and it’s just something I’ve never really thought about. If this topic comes up, you know damn well I’m using these references.
My question is this let’s just say your right and I use the term loosely. What is the point to your argument? From what I understand from researching Jehovahs witnesses women play a vital role in the congregation. But….if I am correct God is organized and for his will to be done it to must be organized. Isaiah 55:8,9 says his thoughts are higher than our thoughts. So some things your just not going to get. 1Timothy says women must learn in silence. 1,Corinthians 14:34 women should be in subjection as the laws says. But the most important work that the witnesses do from what I can see “GLOBALLY “ is the preaching work which God says they are a large army. This is in the Bible psalms 68:11. What other religion does this in a organized way? And even other religions believe women can not be preacher or minister or heads of churches not just witnesses. What I’ve notice about your argument is you must read the entire Bible with a clear mind to understand it. What I’ve also noticed with my life experience. If a religion is not a true religion then it will no prosper. It says in Gods word that this good news will be preached in all the inhabited earth. Tell me please what religion is doing the preaching like Jesus did? Jesus said you will be hated . Jehovahs witnesses seem to always be the target of hate and Persecution. You can look at all the lands they have been banned ESPECIALLY in Russia. When the pandemic hit they were STILL PREACHING. Man if God isn’t behind them I don’t know what I’m seeing.! Because Mathew 24:14 is happening as we speak. Lastly when someone is speaking the truth all they have to do is say it. Tearing someone down doesn’t make you right . A wise person would drink the water himself to see if it’s tainted. Nice distraction poor argument . Have a good day
My Episcopalian church had a woman archbishop during the 1980s . Their reasoning , Male and female He made them! We treat women as adults ,not as children to be led by other adults. Your JW church is very misogynistic.
What??Did you just say that in the art department women do the drewings while the men like taskmasters.Supervising and watching them???? What is this 1834. Or the Hebrews being in slaved by Egyptians or something????????
The bible is such a mean of big business. I got news for all those who have used and abused that book. There are curses in it for them; and Watchtower is right there in the front line.
@Yolette Milord -- Exactly! The Bible contains many curses to be dealt out as punishments aimed at people who dare add to and/or subtract from God's Word. A very famous warning/curse is in the Book of Revelation, but some other books of the Bible give similar curses/warnings. The G.B. (Governing Body) are in deep, deep dip right now. Without repentance, they shall go to Hell -- and they don't seem to have in their words or actions any of the fruits or evidences of repentance! You spoke truly about those eight in the G.B.
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THANK YOU WALLY!!! I thoroughly enjoyed this video and hope you have more like this. Is shunning Biblical?? Content like this helps with discussions I have with family about "what the Bible says". 👏👏👏👏👏
Women can run for president at least. When I was a kid, If they had to pray because a baptized man wasn’t present, they needed a “head covering” and would use an open song book 🤣🤣🤣. That said, my grandfather use to tell me “never trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn’t die” I’m sorry, this stuff drives me crazy.
This info was amazing!! I remember at times there would be talks on how women could set examples, Ruth & Naomi were always the examples. NO ONE EVER talked about Miriam to that extent, though!! And if most JW's claimed to have read the Bible, did anyone question this??? I bet they did & were shut down!!!! The more I see & hear about the Governing Body, the more disgusted I get
well the ruth story is way more interesting than people give it credit for! I might cover it in a future video but the scholarship around it is fascinating
Great job. 👍 Now you see some of the MANY scriptures that have been changed throughout the Bible. Paul's words have been messed with so much even in his day. That's why he told the congregations to watch out for letters saying that they are from him and to look out to how he signs his name at the end of the letter to know its authentic.
thanks! yeah I am reading a book about the history of how the bible came to us and it is really fascinating just how many goofy things were inserted later on by people with bad motives. WT is right there with them
@@exjehovahswitness Every translation is screwed up and has its own agenda. You can only see the screwed up verses by using and comparing them all and not just sticking only to one translation you think is best. Comparing original Greek helps sort the verse out and you will be amazed how Translators screw up verses which shows they are translating out of what they think they know or mistranslate on purpose.
yeah that is the classic start with the end fallacy. We know this is true because it's in this book. (finds something he doesn't like) well because we know what it is supposed to say we will just make a adjustment so it is easier for the reader to comprehend god's thoughts. I really wish I knew greek aramaic and hebrew would be so much fun to go back and really understand ancient manuscripts on deep level
Yes…wells…getting hung up on sexual “immorality “ while ignoring one of the greatest evils ever…..slavery…indeed still talking about the “faithful slave” tells you how utterly silly and un-serious this “religion “ is….
The ARC brought out that even in cases of child abuse and sexual, physical or domestic abuse that a woman is not used within the matter to comfort or support the victim/survivor. I believe the charman/judge asked why but wasn't given a satisfactory answer from the representatives of the org.
@@exjehovahswitness it was my mother sticking a tea towel/dishcloth or hanky on her head when a man wasn't present that I never got my head around she even did it on bible studies in the ministry. I had to hold in all my childish giggles. The elder was running late for field service and due to a loss of bladder control she had a pair of large knickers in her bag...instead of the hanky she placed the pastel pink knickers on her head and not one person told her...except me while sitting in the car. Lol never forgotten it.
Hi Wally.Good man..I Havent seen this one until now...Yes...Deborah judged Israel for 20 years.....The brothers love their narcissism(calling her a )..prophetess..She judged,with Father's backing... I found only answering their power tripping with the scriptures(not wt articles),helped..Or just staring at them and praying to Father,saying "Father,can you hear what they are saying??'' Obviously,I wasnt popular.Hahaha... Jesus said..Do not judge anything before the appointed time...Elders are meant to be James 5 oriented+healing ,not judging...Grrrrr...I wish they actually read or would study the Bible.. Thank you for this..🙂
I thought you were gonna forget about phoebe for a minute. It's amazing how these men would change God's wotd (assuming that's true) to protect their own misogyny. How do they reconcile lying about the scriptures and yet claiming to follow the scriptures. The old question of do they know they're full of crap or do they believe their own hype? You should do a video on all the scriptures the nwt has changed, I know it's been done but I really enjoy your take on things. Thanks
yeah the one I am working on right now is comparing things jesus said vs how watchtower acts. But a NWT video could be a lot of fun. Reading up on the history of the bible at the moment so might have a few things to say about it
In Genises, God condemned ADAM first, not Eve. The blame went to him. God didn’t call out Eve first. The man is primary but woman is equal and has just as much part of Bible prophecy as man does. Man is not above woman, and women is not above man. Do you know why? Because we are all sinners. Both will be condemned EQUALLY!!!
Here is the right interpretation of 2 Tim. 2:12 from the greek, the ONLY verse that seems to support the fact that women can not teach : 2 TIMOTHY 2:11-12 "11 Let a woman learn" = this verse is revolutionnary because women had not right to learn the scriptures in this time. Men and women were separated in the synagogues and women did not receive any spiritual education "in silence" = This translation is pejorative and oriented. The greek word hēsychia means "in quietness" or "with a quiet spirit", as a pupil in a classroom. The original word in greek does not have any negative connotation, but rather means " calmy..peacefully.." "12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but she is to remain silent." 'Authority' = greek word 'Authenteo'. This is the only occurence of this word in the entire greek scriptures. The Bailly Greek Dictionnary gives this translation : "act as an absolute master " with a reference to the Greek tragedies when a person lost control and killed someone else. It can even refer to taking someone else's life. You have the greek word OUDE ('nor' in english) between DIDASKEIN ('to teach') and AUTHENTEIN ('to use authority over') : OUDE is a linking word whose purpose is to reinforce a given idea between two words, as in the sentence "he walked WHILE laughing". So a woman cannot teach WHILE having an authoritative attitude... (as Jezabel for example)..but she can teach ! So this verse does not say that the women must shut their mouth and are forbid to teach. It just says HOW they should learn the scriptures and THE WAY they sould not teach the others. Even Jesus permitted women to express their faith. Roman 16 : Phoebe, Prisca, etc
And this is why im not going to be an mom(if i choose to adopt or give birth to)where misoginist attitudes are taught in an cult. (and yes ik that we still live on an grand scale an patriarchy and an misogynistic society in 21th century,but in this one we can at least unite as people and change things for the wellbeing and benefit for women and men).
Most of the women I have met in the organization were content to do nothing and let the brothers tell them what to think. I guess people stay in cults so they don't have to think for themselves.
yeah it is a mixed bag. In my personal experience (take that for what it's worth) the majority of women silently rejected the whole submissive notion. where are you from? jsut curious if that might have anything to do with it?
@@exjehovahswitness California. I remember when I was 12 I took the group out in service and these 50 year old sisters were hounding me to tell them where to go. I'm like you been doing this longer than I have. Just silly. 😅
@21:00 forward... Bible scholars have realized that about half of the New Testament books ascribed to Paul are in fact forgeries. The clear conflict between some of Paul's positive comments about women following Jesus, with the misogynistic comments you're showing in your video, is one method among several used by bible scholars to distinguish the authentic writings from the forgeries. It's highly significant that forgeries made their way into the bible... @22:00 you said, "Do you think that they're going to misapply it or rewrite it entirely in order to not give the illusion that god would allow a woman to judge..." Definition of "illusion ": "a thing that is or is likely to be wrongly perceived or interpreted by the senses." I do not think that word "illusion" means what you think it means (with thanks to Inigo Montoya). Maybe you meant "impression", instead?
WALLY THE WAY THE ORGANIZATION OF JW TREATS WOMEN AND CHILDREN WILL BE THEIR DOWN FALL__RESEARCH THE HEBREW WORD DESCRIBING THE TERM HELP MATE ( EZER KENEGDO) ( MAT.19;14 )
- A woman doesn't get special recednicion in my religion to other then in the nunneries ( Orthodox Christianity) . The preasts can only be man - I work in a Turkish firm and them being Muslims couldn't get used to the idea of having a women security guard for a while ( I'm fine now ) - The first person to accept Christianity on the theritry of Macedonia was a woman called Lydia and she also preached after Peter left - women have a lot more importance in the modern world and JW are seviorly fowing behind, they're not the only ones but they are
This guy needs a date. Weak men always think they have to kiss butt to women to get approval. Women don’t think this way. Most women want strong man that can lead them.
Mmmm yea or when we did all the cooking to feed hundreds of people and a man had to plan and supervise us without lifting a single finger because “he has other responsibilities” but of course gets all the credit for overseeing 🙃🙃🙃🤡🤡
@@exjehovahswitness when she angry there is no talking to her. When she calms down it’s better. After the last assembly or whatever it is that they have she did tell me that she needs to stop being so bossy. Thanks for your reply
@@exjehovahswitness when she angry there is no talking to her. When she calms down it’s better. After the last assembly or whatever it is that they have she did tell me that she needs to stop being so bossy. Thanks for your reply
@@jameshigginbottom632 I hope she's not a narcissist. I was an abused wife by a JW but I did see abusive women as well. Hope things get better or you move on.
Google, Paul's opinions in scripture is very interesting. Think about this, according to scripture, it was a woman who led us into sin, Eve, just saying.
No. Eve was deceived. It was Adam who sinned. "Therefore, just as theough one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned...Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses..For if by one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and if the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ... Therefore, as through one man's offense judgement came to all men...For by one man's disobedience many were made sinners.." Rom.5:12-20 Sin entered through Adam.
OBVIOUSLY THE CHANGE CAME WHEN CHRIST BEGAN HIS MINISTRY ON EARTH ALSO IF GOD ACCEPTED WOMEN TO ALSO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE MEN THEN AT LEAST ONE OF CHRISTS DISCIPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN A WOMAN...I DO NOT REMEMBER THE SCRIPTURE BUT IT DOES STATE THAT I DO NOT PERMIT A WOMAN TO EXERCISE AUTHORITY OVER A MAN AND THEY WERE TO BE SILENT IN THE MEETINGS WHEN DISCUSSIING SPIRITUAL MATTERS