Prosecuting attorney completes questioning of Norton Shores woman accused of torturing, killing son 

So true

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She studied law. She wasn’t going to admit directly to anything. It’s like that song It Wasn’t Me even if you see it with your own eyes.

Facts!! Didn’t even think about that

Totally cruel and sadistic

She really thinks that was an excuse to treat him like she did. What a sick evil woman.

She’s very analytical.. and detached

Yes I noticed this! She SPAT it out of her mouth “he WAS sneaky!” With pure hatred in her face. She probably blames him for where she is now and his own death.

Couldnt have said it better! Absolutely disgusting

Exactly she’s disgusting

You are more than likely 100% correct. What is wrong with this world, my god

Makes sense, in her eyes, everything is Timothy’s fault.

This pos is a law clerk. She should know the law and have begged for a plea to avoid this horrific trial. And she had the nerve to take the stand to say she can't remember anything about the torturing and death of her helpless child. Good thing she was a a chronic texter.

She didn’t call 911 because she was mad that he was “doing this” to her. She was mad her child died. How dare he die, and leave her to face the truth and consequences. I really despise her, and if there’s any justice in the world, she’ll receive it in prison.

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AGREEEEE

👍👍 edit: anyone catch the prosecutor's name?

Absolutely agree!

​@ericsbuds Mr Roberts is the prosecutor

thanks :) @@jackiesaunders9013

Ugh she’s trying to play “Lawyer “ but she’s not that good at it obviously. She’s tripping over her own lies and the only diction she practices is “I don’t remember sir” No sir I don’t remember! What why what is with the French braids?🤮

I think she thinks the French braids make her look innocent ,like a little girl....🤷🏼‍♂️

Hunger strike again he was autistic does he know what a hunger strike is?? He was sick from no food and bread and hot sauce like he was in a concentration camp.

Disgusting

And her anger towards her deceased child still.

She is crying to manipulate the jury.

Absolutely 100%

how do you know what she is thinking?

I have no idea why people leave comments like that. These things go without saying but ppl feel like they have to say that anyway

@@Hello-ig1px Her actions before, during & after her answers are very telling, relative to those verdicts😊

i love when he calls her out for magically forgetting and also “chicken nuggets are pre-cooked” when she tried to play “he could’ve killed himself eating frozen chicken nuggets” B***H PLEASE

He was very crafty handling this very evil woman. RIP Timothy.

Agree

He was so genuine as well, when he asked her “how long was he in the tub?” She had no answer. I don’t understand this woman, how could she do this? When my daughter was born I was swaddling her and she had tons of onesies under her pjs. And I woke up when she wanted to eat immediately! I wrote everything down. Even though her days and nights were off that was ok cause I just wanted to see her eat with oh dear we had tons of different bottles and if she didn’t like one we would give her another, it’s part of nurturing. That was her baby! Good God he’s in paradise for sure.

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If that's what the footage says....🤦🏻‍♂️

She is claiming she can't remember crap. Even when prosecutor shows hard evidence ...she is a monster...

That is a perfect way to describe it! She is just evil. When i first started watching I saw her and thought, oh she couldn't have actually done this on purpose...WOW.

I'm 4:20 in and I'm astounded ar her lack of shame or guilt at what she did and so far her testimony is only about dragging her poor son into the bathroom, if that's where she brought him.

@miahfukinrella007 Wow..I love the way you described this! She is evil…and she feels if she says she don’t remember it’s like it didn’t happen. Liar liar

I believe she’s claiming that the trauma is from her husband having a stroke in January, which roughly coincided with Timothy coming to live with her. but it’s complete horse shit. she likely was abused as a child and became a sadist. abuse on this level is usually passed down through the generations

all BS, remember she worked for a Judge and heard that mot likely in the court room

She reminds of. Female Nazi guard at a concentration camp during WW. She got her jolly’s torturing and starving her son to death. She saw her “ final solution”

Monster, that's all I keep thinking.

Crazzzy!!

She’s angry at him that he died.. she blames him for her getting arrested.. that’s how sick and evil this woman is

She truly is pure evil! She remembers everything she did! If she had such memory problems there’s no way she would’ve made it through law school. I can’t comprehend how someone can be so cruel to another human, especially their child!

If that's what it shows...

​@@NORTAH85 poor kid...

100% agree. What that child has to endure for 15 years! 😢

No tears and when she fake cries she can't even get a tear out

The devil has no tears. There all dried up from the heat of flanes😅

She attempted to shed a tear, but it was about a frozen chicken nugget, and the lawyer shut that down..

She's not capable of empathy. I believe she abused all of her kids😢😢

This case with these details make me nauseous

WOWZERS EVE SPEAK

Yes he is

Amen 🙏🏽 this soo sad 😢 she's so evil

I agrée he makes the jury see how a liar, a monster, an evil she is.

He’s the chief trial attorney in that office. I can see why.

which is why he was eating raw meat probably

Craving sweets and chips and frozen nuggets and refusing healthy food?

@@mmoro143 he was autistic, probably only liked certain foods.

What an astute observation, Sarah.

Ty Stephanie for pointing it out...people who have cognitive disorders cannot make good healthy choices for themselves, among other they crave sweets and junk food. It is their caregiver's responsibility to "control" this ill self-destructive behavior..to help them by keeping them away from junk (that worsens their condition) and to provide healthy options. If the patient chooses to take it! Blaming a caregiver for doing so and accusing her of starving her child when she locks the source of food to keep her child's cravings under control is rather ignorant, rude, and pardon my honesty, insane idea. Labeling it an abuse and torture is gently speaking "foolish" misunderstanding showing lack of knowledge, experience and willingness to do what is right.🤷‍♀️ it is not justice.

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100% straight to short stay death row. What an awful excuse for a human.

Evil Cruelty on a Disturbing level !😢 😳 😬 💯

Definitely

Exactly 🤬

Right poor Timothy had accidents because of her torture she ordered paul to give him the hot sauce. This poor baby could not do anything right right in her eyes. The poor boy was starving and literally dying with his mouth open before her eyes and she had her nerve to say he was faking? 😭

She obviously still hates him! Hope she rots in prison

Yes, it's so awful. And it wasn't impulsive, it was actions she had to think about ahead of time and then do repeatedly. I agree with the sentence handed down 100%.

She is not a human, she’s an animal, even worse! a liar of the first degree!

I was traumatized and I don't remember....WT??!!

Yes! This was a slam-dunk case for the prosecution. Most people listen to their lawyers and take a plea to appear remorseful. She thought she could actually get away with it and she thought she could win over the jury. Delusional narcissist who has successfully manipulated everyone her whole life.

yeah I don’t know how she thought this would end well for her.

Forreal,Forreal!!😮

I mean it definitely at least shows she has an IQ of a sea cucumber!

I mean it at least proves she has the intelligence of a sea cucumber!

I don't think she comes across like that but okay

I don't think anyone would believe the I don't remember line

thats the thing about this type of garbage... they really think they are the smartest in the room. thank god she is is so slick she wants to testify and thank god for text messages

Yep, she left no doubt she's a sadistic monster.

@@rachela4071Lady, let her babysit your kids. You’ve lost it.

It’s incredible how this demon of a person can sit there, without remorse, not a tear shed, and just say “I don’t remember”. I pray that Timothy haunts her every single time she closes her eyes. Look at how fat she is. Eating good in jail. Buying $100 in commissary each week. It makes me sick. She had the nerve to say “I didn’t eat the first month in jail”.

I like your comment, but did you just tell us your birthday?

@@coltonchase392 to point out that on a good day for them, Shanda was actively torturing her son maybe?

So bizarre that she only remembers his transgressions but conveniently never any of the messages she herself typed and sent.

It’s a weak defence too. Even if she conveniently can’t remember she clearly did all and said all of it.

Im so sick with this case. It is very hard to watch and listen to this evil sick person. Those poor kids. Who is feeding the stroke husband?

@@OpeddRight? Infuriatingly obtuse 😡

My birth giver is the same way with her memory. @@Opedd

Pero por que ella puede beber agua, cuando ella le negó ese derecho al pobre niñito?😢😢😢😢

@@mildrelugo3642 Alas, she would have legal grounds to get people in trouble if she's denied human rights. Even if she herself denied them to others.

100%

Totally

Absolutely. She hated poor Timothy

You really believe he did that? She sounded like she was lying about that.

@@Ritsukaberrywhy would she lie about that when it’s obviously evidence that the kid was starving?

@@Ritsukaberryhe was desperate for food, he was doing anything to try to survive. Why would that be a lie?

@@Ian-Omega But I thought he wasn’t allowed to move so how did he get access to the fridge?

@@amelie9271 Read my response to previous person that replied to me.

I'm in

Or like somebody else said she should be in handcuffs like her son Paul was. Maybe they wanted to read her body language,ect.

She tortured him with every move He made he never even got a meal

Just like ruby frank a woman with lots of kids and a good reputation, but behind the scenes they are torturing their kids.

Yes! I wish they could also take away the air she breathes

​@@caitlynm9885Ruby did not have a good reputation. People called out her ab use for years before her son escaped.

She is there already. I wonder how it’s going January 29 is her sentencing. I hope she gets life with no chance of parole.

She's in jail. Prison will be different!

That poor child was tortured to death. She deserves life in prison.😢

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She is pure evil .

100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.

100% Kind of fun to watch in a weird way how she is talking herself into prison for life.

So dumb is the jury and the world, that all she has to do is say "I don't remember" and we will all be like oooooh, okay then, then it maybe didn't happen? We set you freeeeee!

Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.

Or the brother. Narcissism is the least of her problems.

Ditto.

Oh boy you said it 💯 so sad for Timothy 😢😢

Same here

Goodo!! Me too!

She is despicable and evil!

Contradicting herself like feeding her 15 yr. old the 2 hottest peppers on planet earth isn't dangerous! She's more dangerous than the peppers!

Oh, just like she put him in baseball because she felt bad that she didn't get out much to get him socialized. Just like she said she wanted to take him off his meds because "he was like a zombie - it was horrible". Just like she argued, "oh I wouldn't send (my little son) G outside by himself, he was with Paul". LAUGHABLE. Does she actually think anyone believes she has the ability to feel empathy? She has no moral compass. I don't even know why she even TRIES to say this shit. Why even bother? Just take your sentence and go. Smh.

Plenty of such people in government jobs. When they have power over people it soon turns perverse.

It's frightening that she is human. Then again....she isn't. The devil's spawn is what she is

People in government are the darkest, most disgusting people. Evil people.

Narcissism

@@matteframe Nope. Please stop misusing this word.

@@veraboltondefinitely narcissism involved in the rest of the psychosis of this woman. We all have a little narcissism.

@@pl1763 Absolutely not. Narcissism is a mental disorder and maybe "you all" have it there but not here. This woman has no psychosis, she's more likely a sadistic psychopath.

And the way she started to tear up/break down during her own "trauma", but not a single tear for her poor child. I cannot fathom how anyone can be so blatantly self-centered. She is absolutely evil. The fact that she feels sadness for her herself means she is capable of feeling, she just isn't capable of empathy or feeling for any one but herself. That is just plain evil.

She won't last long in prison

@@jasonhernandez5312 God forgive me. I hope ur right

I wish... All she does is beg ppl for money on her jail calls... Also the good thing is now she complains about how cold it is, horrible the food is, how miserable it is in jail.

That's exactly what I think ,and her so called friend should be ashamed of herself after hearing all this

People everyday in the USA kill their children through abortion and you don’t think there are sadistic people out there.

When Paul testifies she shakes her head objecting to his account. How does she now remember? Did she forget she cannot recall.

A true sociopath

Ohhhh I'd be pleased if she weren't under the jail.. cuz when she goes to prison her life will be a living hell.. as it should be... Other prisoners hate on this sick shit 😮

@Anna-loves-you I totally agree with you.what a sick evil women

So you got paid to work with kids with special needs? I watched her testimony before Paul. I don’t see the jury going any other way than the obvious. She knows the foster care systems is awful, but her treatment was better? The DA worked this case very well, plugged the gaslighting the defense attorney did. Why the hell is the DA going after Paul is it to force him to testify. Paul’s testimony was a lot believable, but under the evidence, she did the best she could. Maybe she is really is just awful. Not that my judgement really matters in the end, not that’s she has much of a life worth living even getting acquitted.

Maybe someone should give her only bread and hot sauce for her stay in jail!

Add a couple of minuscule sides, and that is a meal in jail​ @justinshades6652

In the toilet because the child was speaking of was 15 I don’t know why the brother or sister wouldn’t have said something to somebody it’s crazy😢

poor kid...

The truly mindboggling part to me is how she's clearly thinking the jury is going to find her behavior perfectly reasonable.

I can't say for sure but obviously she had a hold over the older son, most likely long term emotional/psychological abuse and trauma. He was most likely afraid of her. Same thing happens when a spouse is being abused, with long term trauma you feel hopeless, afraid, and powerless.

When she said toys I was like really?? He was literally living in HELL

But she conveniently 'vaguely' remembers selective parts of conversations that may be something she can use to her advantage, but as soon as something in the same conversation puts her in a bad light, she forgets again. Infuriating.

She thinks shes the smartest person in the room - psychopath. Delusional - actually thinks she's believable.

@@AshleeMarie-tb5fi fact

She knows exactly what she's doing, she remembers everything except the torture she did to him and MADE HER OTHER SON HELP . She's a sorry excuse for a mother. Doesn't even deserve the title of mother!

I know right!

She's playing victim for years with her imaginary conditions and even got herself a "service dog" to go along with her scam.

Like a true sociopath.

Not real tears evil 👿 monster

She remindes me of Amber H.,the voice..all of it. Pshycos.

Did she even throw up? Anyone check the trash?

@@gyptess4794 of course not. She pulled the same stunt when she was being arrested.

The harder part that she continues to call him dummy because he’s autistic…that’s what upsets me

@@angeleyes2093 Timothy wasnt her son, he was her step son. Which is just as bad but in a different sadistic way.

Amen!

​@@squnk3613 Timothy was Shanda's son. Paul,Nolan and his sister are children from her first marriage Marriage to Eric Ferguson. Gabriel was from her marriage to Adam who died.

He lived without his medications the entire time he lived with Shonda too.

"I cant remember!" I cant believe how cruel!!😪😮‍💨😮‍💨

Stupid

Shes a narcassist. She cant help it

The defence probably ran out of options

Ikr…not sure why she chose to testify? She now has zero chance of appeal & for someone with ‘an excellent legal brain’ who actually worked in that SAME courtroom with an appellant judge…such a stupid move 🤦🏻‍♀️ I honestly think she believed she was justified in what she did…she’s one of the worst criminals I’ve ever seen

God Bless You! She is an horrific monster

So, I assume you’re saying this bc Timothy was autistic with ADHD? (Sorry. Not trying to be disrespectful, I just started watching this) It seems to me that she loathed her son. She despised her child. What is broken inside of a mother that she could hate her child so much that she would torture and kill him?

@@sylvermoon1745 no, that Shanda is a hateful psychopath. Ignorant NTs always use autism as an excuse. If we’re allowed to thrive we can do amazing things. Or just live a life.

@@sylvermoon1745 Shanda is a monster and Timothy was her scapegoat.

@@sylvermoon1745 Why would you ask such a terrible question? Do you NOT take a person for their word?

It was very unusual the way she kept saying that, instead of saying yes, that’s a possibility, we did that or no we would never do that….about things someone should never do.

She doesn’t have memory issues. She never would have made it through law school if her memory was as bad as she’s trying to convince people of.

Well, she is claiming she has memory issues related to PTSD, she mentioned that a couple of times, but that is a weak excuse for everything that led up to it. @@NORTAH85

That demon is no person.

She has selective memory in addition to being a monster.

Same

Casey Anthony

Hope she gets prison justice.

@@Inletwatcher1965honestly this lady is worse and that’s saying a Lot

She’s a evil awful person. Feel sorry for her son omggg what he went thru

She’s so creepy also plus evil

@@veronicawilson1048demonic

I think she’s also a sexual pervert

What they did tying him up amounts to kidnapping

Has anyone realized that her nose and her upper lip turns red when she gets upset? Maybe she is a form of pinocchio.

I am sure she will get some much deserved prison justice.

Keep your misandry in check! This typically manipulative and narcissistic Karen is solely to blame but do keep on venting if it helps.

Unless he sent him back knowing about the abuse, witnessed and/or contributed to the abuse.....then his only crime is having faith that the incubator would care for him as it should. And I say incubator for lack of a more fitting and appropriate word. Cause truly, being called an incubator is too good of a title for her!

@@diamoniquechanelvalentina2014agreed!!

Awful human

“Hunger strike”

The gall of this piece of crap

She reminds me of Amber Heard and every other pathological malignant sociopathic psychopathic narcissist, cluster B type etc, that I've ever seen on a witness stand or in an interview after a crime. People can suffer from these disorders and not become entirely monsters! Some of them work hard to understand the issues in their own brain, background and behavior, to get better! And to not hurt other people, certainly not to this premeditated and horrific extent and over long amounts of time! Like I've often heard, the devil and pathology lack creativity. Sickness all becomes the same, and evil people resemble each other. How they do! It all follows such commonly predictable patterns most of the time 😢

​@@Sonworshipper She was obsessed with this idea of hunger strikes? It seems? I love your screen name!

@@iahelcathartesaura3887 Thanks! ☺️ I cannot believe that was the BEST she could come up with.

Thank you! I have a teenage son and daughter, my boy eats everything in the house, he’s a growing boy! It’s what they do, if they eat it buy more! Sneaking..stealing is just crap it’s food not gold! She is a psychopath who is controlling. I watched a video on ZavGirl where Paul is doing a live of G’s game and it’s the only time you can hear Timothy speak. You can tell he had severe autism, he wasn’t high functioning. But he was so excited, they were so annoyed with him it’s sad. You hear Satan over here tell Paul “Stop recording!” Paul says “I’m doing a live, just recording the game” she says “No turn it off! You can record but not live stream. Shut it off!” She was extremely controlling and sadistic

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Listen to the full text thread on zav girls site. She TORTURED him beyond imagination. The prosecuting attorney took it easy on her compared to what she did

Same. And the “hunger strike” nonsense makes my blood boil too.

​@@ajvourakissame! No teen boy would go a damn hunger strike!

The thing I hate most is they STILL have not indicated ONE thing that would merit even a day or two of punishment. He snuck because they withheld. THEY created the sneaking.

I’m sorry for how you were treated. I hope your life is good despite how difficult your parents made it for you.

Same

I am so sorry. ALL children are a blessing and should be loved and cared for!

I'm so sorry😢. There are stupid, heartless, selfish, hateful people in this world‼️ Rise above. YOU are beautifully and wonderfully made. YOU have talents like no one else. Make your mark and shine!!

She must be a psychopath. Emotions have a strong role in memory formation. So that tells you she was experiencing anger towards him, but zero empathy or shame when harming him. Although I really do wonder if she actually can't remember. Seems like a convenient avenue to squirm out of things. Deny deny deny.

Such a great point j-r. So inconsistent.

@@c.eb.1216 She absolutely remembers. During this testimony, at multiple points she goes to her default "I can't remember" excuse, despite already answering and providing details to the question.

Not smart at all! She was a dizzy biotch!!! Hell, Paul, smarter than she is! He saw that Timothy was losing weight and needed to eat. She should have listened to that dummy, and they would have been a dynamic duo!!!

And she was "teaching him to not be sneaky". But she tried to hide everything from the police. In fact, she was sneaky all along. "Don't let Grandma go inside". "Stay in the back yard". " Keep the garage door closed". She knew what she was doing was wrong, and she would get in trouble if anyone reported her. She was sneaky!!!

She said he snuck toys snuck them from where

It's just so sad, so sad poor Timothy. He was disabled FFS

She was so stuck on him being sneaky with never one thought to WHY he felt he had to be sneaky. He was merely trying to survive. Any one of us being starved would be sneaking anything and everything to get something to eat and not die. So strange why SHE was so fixated on food and the control of it. He wasn’t preoccupied with it, she was.

She's just using sneaky as a cop out like justification. Anything to try&put herself on a pedistole.​@@Shylade

She's a bonafide psychopath

How did she find the time to attend law school, and have 5 kids? From the medical problems, she obviously failed to follow any prenatal care. Inbreds?

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Let me ask you? How come this "monster" raised well several other (healthy) children? Does she need help and healing or life in prison? Please be honest. How many autistic teens with eating disorders did you successfully raise?

And EVIL

Agreed. One relatively minor point though: she said that when he was forced to stand up against the wall, he had to keep his hands up on his head for a period of time. Ten minutes? An hour? And how long did he have to stand up against the wall?

Yet prosecutor sarcastically called her a brilliant lawyer.

She just gave him a warm bath...

As I watch her on the stand.. Gulping, and evading questions… In her mind she is thinking. Ugh this makes me look so bad! But it hasn’t even remotely occurred to her that, it’s because you are bad. An awful parent. It would make Auschwitz’s survivors blush at her treatment.

​@uservictory9 I'm willing to bet she peed on him!! I'm sure that's the closest to a warm bath he got in that house. 35:22 How many times a day did he have to take an ice bath??? Holy sh*t!! Why didn't she send him to his Dad & step-Mom? Even if they beat him, it would have been better than starving to death. And he never got anything that was healthy. NOT one time did I hear a food item offered to him, that was remotely healthy. 38:48 What's up with taunting him with food, and then take it away before he can grab it. How bad both boys must have felt!! One starving and wondering why he was hated so badly, and the other one was forced to do this to his brother, or God knows what she would do to him. Did she believe that they wouldn't ever find out what they were doing to him? Thank God Paul refused to pour hot sauce on his penis!! I guess he realized that he was torturing his brother already, and that was just too much?!?! I'm just sick, thinking about that poor boy!!!

and when he was dying and his mouth was open for air, she called him a dummy.

He was in the ice bath for 9.5 hrs.

​@@fanofthedog😤😡🤬😢

@@unapologeticallyauthentic I am just so hurt for the boy. He suffered so bad. Hunger pains are horrible. Being chained up. Having to ask permission to go to the bathroom. Handcuffed ? Ice baths for hours? I didn’t know this child. But I hurt for him. This one is very painful.

I totally misread the situation initially. I am now nauseous.

Facts

And complaining about the food the cold and the lack of entertainment 📚

if she isn't in protective custody the other inmates are gonna have a field day with her

Hamburgers have crusts?

Justice for Timothy she is a monster!!

Are you talking about Pippi Longstocking?

The defence wants her put away for life too, that’s why they let her testify.

Does her testimony remind you of AH? IMO, they could be twins on the stand.

But she doesn’t remember her lies so they don’t count 😂

@@caitlankelly4367 oh ok 👍 🤣🤣🤣 I forgot that a jury would find that a valid defense! 😅

Chicken nuggets are cooked.....

Yep, she's upset that he got her in this position. The disgust on her face.

The way she talks about him is sickening. She absolutely blames him for his own torture and murder.

The anger and disgust I feel towards this woman.....for her to sit there and defend herself and what she did is sickening.

And was able to work for a judge! Maybe with all her “memory problems” someone should audit all her work.

she wasn’t an attorney so she didn’t pass a bath or ever taken the bar 🤦🏻‍♀️ she just for a the courts for one summer but she wasn’t an attorney or whatever.. more like a court Secretary

​She took the LSAT, people are confusing it with the bar, but she did do well. @@beautifuldisaster139

​​​@@beautifuldisaster139Actually she had graduated law school and was a law clerk for two different circuit court judges. She had just passed the Bar exam right before being arrested. How she managed all of this is beyond me. Maybe all of her schooling will be usefull after all. She can advise her fellow prisoners pro Bono. 😆

@@deniece0821sorry i misunderstood but i watch the the beginning & heard but i thought she just worked at a court clerk so i misunderstood the first video of certain ?s that i watched my bad

This B makes my blood boil Yes Exactly!!! Play the video !! She's a Damn Moonnsstteerr!!!

For sure

She was very aware of everything she did.

The only reason, why I’m glad they didn’t is for the jury’s sake. There is enough evidence stock piled against her and everyone knew it. The video should have just caused the jury to need further therapy after this.

For sure but some how she stopped it ,

I don't remember I don't remember is all she knows

I don't remember... If that's what it says.. 🤷🏼‍♀️ 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

Guys seriously? She doesn't remember bc of her dissociations!!! Jeez!

@@KingKsEDC she still did it though

Yep. Sick so sick

She wanted to give him privacy with no clothes on the lower half of his body while cleaning the garage and then standing on his knees with no clothes😢😢😢😢 shes pissing me off.

But thinks hot sauce in the privates is fine.

Including his bm's. I have a hard time wondering what went thru his mind. He gave up. She's psychotic 💯

Right! She wanted her flying monkey to pour hot sauce on his penis but she wants us to believe she cared about his privacy.

Honestly hearing this cross I think they could have charged her much more harshly

and so waht????? They slap her hand and then she has a 4th kid to torture!

@@lindanorris2455she already has 4 other kids today. But you’re right courts have mercy on women who do this but fathers get the max+max

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Has she tried to claim insanity?

She seemed to remember every detail about what Paul did or said.. but has selective memory about what she said or did. Smh😡

And doesn’t want the video played. He should’ve played everything to make her uncomfortable.

May she feel fear every second of her life in jail. She won’t be liked in prison. Just an evil monster.

@@cking3081 I'm thinking the exact same thing as I watch this.What a piece of trash for a mother! EVIL!

No accountability, and no remorse. She feels that "sneaky bastard won ", and that he was stubborn deliberately, faking illness to make her angrier deliberately, so she was forced to torture him to death.

You're spot on, she's like a disastrous cross between Helga from 'Allo 'Allo and Rosa Klebb from From Russia with Love 😕

Unfortunately, you're wrong, it's not "unimagineable", it's VERY clear what he went through, it's pretty well documented. When you call people like this "evil" you give such actions an other world connotation, sign away part of their responsibility for their own actions. She is: Self obsessed, narcissistic, controlling, mean- spirited, deeply unkind, uncaring, devoid of conscience & unquestionably - DEEPLY SELFISH! All of the above are decisions... choices she has made & keeps on making & even if she came from an upbringing of terrible cruelty, yes, it could quite easily have made her less empathetic & more detached & cruel in her own thinking, BUT, it's just as likely to have the opposite effect & make a person want to give the love they never received & not use corporal punishment because that's what they had to endure! People are not either good or evil. We all have a choice of which road we want to travel. We can be kinder because of what we've seen or experienced, or punish the innocent for what was done to us! We can indulge our nastiest side, & inflict it on others, or bring out the best parts of ourselves & share them. Unless there is a serious mental problem, which makes "normal" patterns of thinking practically impossible, without medication. There is NO Excuse for anyone who makes another human being suffer like this & certainly not for an adult who does this to a child!! Every time she says "he passed", I loathe her more & actually want to punch her lights out! (& I'm not a violent person!)... People need to stop sanitising situations like this by using less - straightforward, less - honest, less - direct, words, to describe the truth! SHE should NOT be allowed to keep saying that he passed! Like it was some gentle, unpredictable, release! She NEEDS to be made to say "he died", "he is dead"! etc.. That's one very tiny step closer to taking responsibility for what actually happened! SHE tortured him to the point that it caused his death! He is dead & SHE KILLED HIM!

Totally agree

Who spawned this thing

​@@MaryKimballSatan!! 👹

I agree she is a psychopath. No empathy, no shame

These monsters always think they are soooo smart too! She thought she’d be able to con the jury by taking the stand! She thought she’d seem sympathetic? And her education would help her skate around what she did! She thought it was perfectly fine leaving her son in a filthy closet under the stairs!!!! Can’t wait to see how much she likes being locked in a cell! I hope her fellow inmates treat her with the same level of love and care she gave that child! She’s one POS!

Poor child . How must he have felt knowing the woman that was supposed to love him was torturing him to death. 😢😢😢 😡😡😡

I wondered if her insisting she doesn’t remember anything around that time would be her attempt to say she was so out of it around those times she wasn’t responsible for her actions.

@@kellym4747 Absolutely. She was trying to set the stage for her defense. She thought her immense intelligence could easily convince everyone that she is a victim, also dealing with her own "self diagnosed" mental conditions that cause dissociation, so she's not the guilty one! Arrest the evil shadow twin I guess? The mental gymnastics of a psychopath are disturbing but fascinating.

It’s much more common than you think. Do you know how many people work for the department of children & families who neglect their kids, smoke crack & then get paid to take OTHER people’s kids away??? These states & systems are not broken they’re in SHAMBLES. We need a top down redesign of EVERYTHING. Court, police, schools & government. It’s NOT hard but these people are NOT just going to give up their corrupt piggy banks so all the poor people are SCREWED. If you have a little money you’re somewhat protected

I am sure extremely saddened!!!🙏🏻

She graduated law school with honors. Disgusting.

For whatever reason she hated her children. Some people are not meant to be parents and here is the proof. This woman should of never gave birth. Where are the dads ?

The government is loaded with evil people like her.

Well said.. so evil im crying

@@carlajones4474me, too!

She is pure evil

@@tracysmith3076 oh yeah! In finite!

She has an answer for everything

Exactly! None

how convenient for you to simply dismiss it as 'evil'

And she talks about how ‘she’ was traumatized. What a sociopath.

Well said!!!

likely a descendant of slaveowners and founders of our great nation. Always need to be degrading , torturing, killing and harming someone then blaming them. it's like a national brand. this is the face of evil. it's not "toxic masculinity" it's not some all powerful monster, it's meek acting, decent acting grey people. How do we walk past homeless hungry people? how do we ignore injustice? we are compartmentalized. it's awful.

"Thank God that didn't happen" (Spending the night in the garage)

I was just thinking the exact same thing! And I’m glad the judge allowed it!

Agree

It's why I live in America !!! Third world countries would do it !

Hilarious!

Drinking the water is a nervous habit like holding on to a stuffed animal..

Just like how she denied it to Timothy! An eye for an eye

She reminds me of Amber Heard.

​@@gloriaflanders3481Amber Turd.

yet she managed to go to a job, it's funny she knew what she was doing at her job..some trauma..

@@gloriaflanders3481 Totally. She even sounds just like her

That really got to me!

How can she treat anybody like that?

I could not imagine treating my worst enemy like the way she treated her own flesh and blood. Why even take the child from his father if she was just going to treat him this way? And what about the step-dad? Did he know what was going on? Did he participate?

​​​@@mistyandrews4853 The step-dad had a stroke in January of that year, 2022 and had to go live with his parents because he could not navigate the house, aside from the stroke he was already in a wheelchair from childhood apparently. So Shanda and 3 of her kids lived in the house. The victim, 15 year old Timothy, Paul the 19 year old abuser, and Gabriel, 9 years old. Plus 2 huge dogs. The step-dad did not participate in Timothy's abuse, it started after his stroke. She took Timothy from her 1st husband because he & his new wife couldn't handle him anymore & were going to place him with foster parents. Shanda decided that she didn't want that and took him!!! She should have let him go to the foster home. I think she saw Timothy as a major failure on her part. Edit- She was not allowed to have Timothy by order of the courts, years prior. Why is unknown, but she had to have been abusive. Her ex husband should be prosecuted for giving her the boy when it was forbidden!!!

I like what Carl Jung says about this kind of evil, it is the self-hatred at oneself that is projected into the child, hatred of disability is self-hatred. This woman has no empathy or knowledge of how-to parent, its all-crazy making, double binds, she is the epitome of evil, the thing is it is really hard to hide this kind of personality disorder, so I really wonder why someone didn't see there was a huge problem in that home. Like someone said, many failed Timothy, she was just the last.

@@dianastone6547this is kinda my thought and how I’ve been trying to make sense of how she could possibly do this. She had to have absolutely HATED herself. And been miserable to the core. There is no way a healthy, self loving person, could be capable of something remotely close to this. Self hatred projected outward.

Agreed.. she is demonic

I try not to judge people, I just judge myself, but there are times I agree with you?

She wouldn’t feed her own child. She used food as a weapon. Disgraceful!

And Derrick Chauvin, I know this is different, but it's the same to me?

Qà q

Lady?😮

I will never stop being upset over this and here she is being so unbothered

She slipped up so many times, and almost admitted he was hungry. A normal person couldn't even talk about their deceased child this way, calling them "deceitful and sneaky". My God this woman is just wrong on every single level, a true abomination.

This monster needed to be prosecuted by the prosecuter in the jessica groves case!

@@lyndzierugg1242 Or Juan Martinez

I have watched many different trials about parents slowly murdering their Children EVIL😢

I am shocked she testified. Her narsacism couldn't help itself.. Good though, because it's the nail for sure...

@@deannawiederhold3326 I wouldn’t be able to sleep ..

I'm 49. And I'm crying. Literally crying.

I like that you reminded us that he is safe now ❤ That helps when watching this disgusting trial

Disgusting sad woman

that comment gets me so angry. Safe with god now? God didn't help him at the time. Did nothing at all you think he's safe now?

@@60toodles None of us know Gods plan. God giveth and taketh life away. I had a case one time . Two four year old children fell out of the fourth floor window of a two separate tenements here in NY. Same floor and same age. One child died and one child fell and did not have a scratch .

I thought at one point in her testimony she said Paul came to live with her after he graduated?

she literally said she was so traumatized her first month of jail she couldn't EAT clueless idiot

and so many normal people get lazy to pour the contents of food from can and just eat out of it. which part of that is "weird"

​@@trailrunner925 I caught that also. Makes me wonder why she gave custody to their Dad. Or got custody taken away from her. She most definitely should have never had the title of Mom. She doesn't have the heart of a bonding, motherly instinct.

Chicken nuggets are cooked....oh are they? 🤦

Yes!!! I actually laughed out loud when she said that crap! The audacity

I think referring to her as a lady is too nice a title. She's far from human and devoid of love and compassion. I agree with you, she's nasty and vile creature.

My mother would eat steak while her 4 kids ate bologna or cold hot dogs and she beat my older sister and I for years but made sure we had all we needed. I am wondering how bad she was now.

My parents had a lock on the frig and pantry

​@@NotASnowflakeMore than sad 😢😢😢 ...

@@celineaussant3545 I've always been on the fence about that kind of thing because she was 15 with 1st child, 16 with me, 20 with my brother and 21 with my sister. I always thought her anger and childish ways was because she wad a child.

Yup. That or "i don't remember".

you must have flipped ur lid alot durning this whole video then right haha?

I came here to say that

Omg, I feel exactly the same 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻x

Also the word "heck"

THat is an insane comment on her intelligence as smart as she supposed to be ,, she plays DUMB!!! Alot!

And then the prosecutor let her know that chicken nuggets are pre-cooked. She looked so stupid on the stand. I’m sure that made this monster feel worse than any other punishment.

The tone of her voice from her pathetic attempt to act, and act concerned chocked me up (pun intended). It also baffles me how she refuses to swear in her texts yet she has no problem being so awful and cruel to the point where her it kills her child. Some people, omg🤦🏻‍♀️

Yeah blame the chickens for this tragedy.

😂😂😂

I thought the same with that water!!!

Especially a special needs child.

2 wrongs dont make a right

@@artetfaceme too! Imagining all the while Timothy being starved of all food and liquids 😞

Or chewing a huge wade of gum ! Did you see that ?

Oh that floored me...🤬🤬🤬🤬

And it was cooked chicken nuggets which would be safe cold. She is such a psycho. She should have pled guilty. Delusional narcissist thinking she might get away with this.

Plus the chicken nuggets are precooked. The raw hamburger would have been worse I guess. But she’s a monster either way

@@lilirishgrlthank God they pointed out they are precooked she isn't smart for a former Law student

@@mirandaadmiri5555 she really did seem stupid up there on the stand. I was really taken back the way she couldn’t even help herself by talking bad about him even in his death. I felt so sorry for poor little Timothy.

She’s such a LIAR! She can’t remember she doesn’t know why she would’ve said it honestly she was so traumatized….she looks a lot like a woman guard at Auschwitz who who convicted at Nurenberg (sp?) and executed.

I noticed the same thing... outrageous!

That's because she doesn't have any empathy for him. It's all about her. Nor did she love her other kids. They are probably all messed up in some way thanks to her. She didn't do this to them but I feel she's traumatised them over the years.

That was a new low for her victim mentality. Horrific

@@louwinters508​​⁠​​⁠​​⁠She absolutely adores G aka little man, the youngest child and the only one from her 2nd marriage. She almost teared up reading the text about giving him a hug and kiss.

That's what it is.

Yep that's seriously her testimony. It couldn't get more ridiculous!

He was interrupting her killing him. Evil.

It's weird to think her schooling and high scores might make her think that she is so much smarter than the average person or anyone else that in her preparation for trial and coming up w lies and excuses that she is fooling and outsmarting everyone

I’m pretty sure her calling that poor boy deceitful and sneaky was her PROJECTING, because it describes her perfectly

She looks scared and occasionally taken aback to me. If she is angry, she is frighteningly still in my opinion. Never seen someone hide it so well.

@malindaallen718 I agree that she looks angry. How dare someone question her ways.

She's a completely different person when being questioned by the prosecutor! She'll need a cold ice bath to get over this day in court!

To me, she looks angry at some moments and scared at others.

Sending my love to your son and you.💜💜💜

Love to you and your son your a good mum, I cannot watch this woman that poor boy so upsetting

You can't imagine it because you are an amazing mother with love and care in your heart and soul.

Same, warrior parent, same. Maybe she'll get her memory back rotting in prison. 😡

❤❤❤❤

She is a psychopath!

If she's ever allowed into the general population, things could get pretty rough in there for her. I've heard there is a universal 'code' among inmates that they do NOT like child molesters.

And she had her older son administer punishment is evil and warped too.

Oh ye of little faith. Don't worry - prisoners have their own kind of justice to administer! :)

She won’t last in prison. Inmates will handle her child abuse, no exceptions.

Don't bet on that, the mothers in prison are going to show her a lot of love.