Protonmail a Flawed Privacy Strategy? 

When I first learned about email in the late 80s, the most succinct description for how it works is; "Don't write in an email what you wouldn't write on a postcard."

Thank you Rob, I really appreciate all your doing and videos. They are very helpful.👍

…morning Mr B 🙏🏾 “Got a better understanding now, have a blessed week” Thank you 👍🏾🙏🏾😊

One of the best episodes ever! Keep it up, Rob, excellent work!

Great video, Rob. I have to laugh at the GPG idea. Sure, I know how to encrypt. But literally NO ONE I know could figure out how to decrypt it. So if no one can read it, why bother for regular email? I only get concerned about things like medical records. Unbelievable how lax things have become

Mind blowing the information extracted just from the header...thanks for the info.

Your videos are great for multiple viewings. They are reference-quality. Mahalo.

Turned into an ad about Braxmail but I'm sold

Excellent video! If you use your email from your app but it's connected to apple id so you can create on RU-vid does it still help or defeat the point, meaning apple/goog can read email since it's connected to them even though your email app is private? In order to even download app on apple you have to put in id what do you suggest?

That is an excellent discussion of all the issues with Internet email! The advice of assuming it can be read unless a lot of precautions are taken is incredibly important! ;-/ That you mention encryption used on its own still leaks a lot of information about you is really important. I like that you gave many useful techniques to be able to use email 'safely'. i.e. VPN and false names. This is an excellent introduction to the privacy issues of the internet and especially emails! And all in one place! :) So useful. This is the type of useful information that should be taught in schools. I like that you provide services that help people to be private in the current situation we all find ourselves. Thank you.

Thanks Rob. Great advice as always.

Always view elsewhere first but click here to support you. Thanks for sharing

Thank you for sharing!

Really appreciate all your info Rob. I was wondering if you could maybe create a Teachable course or something like it that would encompass everything that someone would need to know in order to have maximum privacy all laid out in a simple and easy order. I would pay you for that 😏

Excellent video by the way!

Denial is being noticed. Thank you. This is a gift.

Also if I use your brx email service but it's sent to person who doesn't use your email (uses Gmail Hotmail etc) is the email exchange then not secure either?

I love u man! U are a diamond 💎in the rough! Tysm for all your hard work. Have a good day! Is that your boat? Badass!

Where is the xmpp free feature you're talking about on your app and how do you get it?

Privacy man you keep me faith full in this dark world,Go bless u!

Thanks, Rob.

Curious what you would think about using the onion network instead of a VPN? I may be misunderstanding it but doesn't it anonymise or misrepresent the IP?

I've always wondered if pre-encryption and sending complete gibberish to people would be the way around systems or email providers who's systems have eventually been compromised. Encrypting something to get it further encrypted via an email provider, would be something I'd happily engage in to ensure 2 step security of my emails.

Rob, do a video of spy tech in new vehicles

Do you remember saying "Mobile Internet such as Tmobile through the SIM is more secure than going through a router?" Rob, do you use bytzvpn on your Tmobile service? Do others on mobile sims only need bytzvpn and braxmail?

what are you thoughts about Lora and using it to send sms but encrypted

I use gmail but not the gmail app. What's the benefit of using gmail (or other mainstream emails) through Thunderbird, FairEmail, or K-9 Mail? How can someone use gmail in the same manner John McAfee used gmail?

What do you think of communication over Bitcoin Lightning?

what vpn do u reccomend

You're talking about SMTP when you say "email" right? Any particular reason you don't say the name of the protocol? (I've been tracking this anomaly for several videos. 🙃 )

Excellent quality discussion.

protonmail withheld mail between myself and another protonmail account holder that was about hydrogen research. its a honeypot for people who want to keep their information out of the google loop.

How can I sign up for a brax mail email?

It's possible to hide your phone number from other users on Telegram and mostly rely on username instead. The way it works, the phone number is hidden from everyone except for your contacts.

This was E X C E L L E N T !

Does a VPN hide your real I.P. address?????

Why is the privacy industries order of operation, build, market, acquire user base, sell to government or google and completely negate the purpose of the service in the first place?

With my Proton Mail VPN...."they" have substituted the real heading page with a fake page.....somehow perhaps getting to my unattended phone...

This just stressed me out unnecessarily. I don’t even send emails. I just need a service to use to enter my email everywhere

The government specifically bans any use of email by health care providers under the HIPAA legislation, considering it to be inherently unsecure.

I recently swapped email just to get away from google as service provider. Movement towards more decentralized services is required.

Encryption of email content is achievable and VERY IMPORTANT. Protonmail does this well. So does Tutanota and Skiff and Engimail within Thunderbird though the latter is only for recipients that have public PGP key. And you can send sensitive emails with encrypted content sending the symmetric key securely some other way. Protonmail is also PGP based so it can send E2EE to any user who has a PGP public key not just other Protonmail users. And anyone that sends PGP encrypted mail can send to a Proton user if they have their public key. So yes the metadata is pretty much hopeless but encrypting content originating from one of these systems and too a recipient that has the private key can certainly be done. Universal? No. Way better than nothing? Yes.

Do you think people will be find phones in hyperinflation?

So basically what you're saying is that encryption of the body of the message is as useless as using a screen door for a hatch on a submarine.

The video's of Rob force just one conclusion. There must be laws to prohibit the access and storage of all private data. That won't happen, the 3 letter organisation doesn't want this, but we could at least have OUR private data secure for commercial use or profiling.

Wait what? Let me think about that...well what about single use of a new phone to a proton to proton comm? Secure?

Too late if Been doing it for years?

I guess a more proper way to refer to that system would be "e-postcard" rather than "e-mail"...

The amount of diligence required is very high. Not sure what the solution is, but this means almost all of society will continue to be watched and tracked. Even with high diligence, all it takes is one mistake and all your effort was for nothing.

If you like what Thunderbird is doing, don't forget to donate if you can.

Email: use VPN always

you never show what your on about, how to get ip for email sender from an email?

try utopia p2p ecosystem

1) Yes, I agree. I have literally hundreds of FREE email addresses that are used ONE time only. These email accounts are set up months or years before from different IP addresses and different type faces. I never get spam from these since I do not bother "checking in" on the old single use email addresses. 2) I use other bogus email addresses that are identified with at one time the "real me". These emails contain zero content of value, since they are close to published junk text from a boring article. This is done to "help" to add TONS of bloat and disinformation that identifies me as a boring idiot normie.

The security of Protonmail is even contra-productive. Once the user forget his old password and sets a new one, he can not access the old emails anymore, because the encryption is still tight to the forgotten password. The user is completely screwed.

Protonmail is Honey Po+

While you are correct that ultimately ‘If Man can make it, Man can Break it’…I personally think you miss the point overall. It’s all well and good pointing all of these potential issues and I’m not disagreeing…but ultimately you continuously point out how every single service has flaws, but you know full well that using something with terrible flaws is worse than something with some potential flaws which aren’t great. If anything; please take notice of the following…you seem to think that your own personal product is superior and somehow unique. Do I really need to point out each and every issue with your own service? Does someone (I’ll certainly be willing) need to develop then demonstrate a vulnerability and exploit against it or are you going to make a video where you point out the flaws in your own service? Even a few words start the mind thinking…free account? It’s stored where? How do you pay for that? Are you using AWS, Azure or is the entire infrastructure self contained? Of course it’s not. No identification needed…ok so I’ll use one of the browsers you’ve explained the flaws on to set it up, on one of the devices that have a unique identifier and are connecting continuously to devices all around me through cellular, WiFi and BLE protocols shall I? You’re not wrong about much of what you say but honestly I find it laughable that you would then go on to promote your own product/service in a way that frames it as not vulnerable in similar or the same ways all the others are. There’s no way on Earth that you don’t know I’m correct and I genuinely find it pretty underhanded to behave as if yours is perfect…why would I trust you? Nothing personal…but honestly, why? It’s free to use, it costs you money and you refuse to tear down your own product in the slightest while criticising everyone else’s. Your points are generally correct; however your overarching argument (which happens to be correct as well) is that nothing is really secure. Yet you decide to make your own service. Why? What’s the point? If you claim it’s not vulnerable I’m more than willing to write up a report on every aspect where compromise is certainly possible on your very own service. Care to explain if I’m wrong? If so it’s only fair that I should demonstrate why I disagree, yes?

IP address tracking within 200ft is pretty much impossible. I'm always open to learn new things, but at the current state of my education you are sometimes not even able to get the city you're in correct by using ip tracking. 200ft is very very close. This is simply not a true statement in this video, which weakens my trust in the expertise of this youtuber.

two male servers connect. Seems woke. LOL.

ProtonMail is not a honeypot. Stop spreading this nonsense.

I'm sorry but more s... sherlock