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Proven False: Bethel's '"Prophet" Kris Vallotton! 

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@ntiffin72
@ntiffin72 4 месяца назад
Wouldn’t trust kris Vallotton to tell me the correct time…..
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 месяца назад
For sure....that's too legalistic for him. Obeying the clear command of the watch.
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 4 месяца назад
It's 9:10 pm Pacific time 😂😂😂
@Marlaina
@Marlaina 4 месяца назад
Freckle past a hair
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Why not?
@angie-bk1yc
@angie-bk1yc 4 месяца назад
Right!!
@justinverwoerd3705
@justinverwoerd3705 4 месяца назад
Every day I get closer to writing a letter to my church council about the usage of Hillsong and Bethel music.
@roniverson9282
@roniverson9282 3 месяца назад
It’s kundalini infected music. Chords are designed to affect our brains to open up to demonic spirits through the music. It’s not worship music. It’s unholy. It’s the most destructive deceptive attack on the body of Christ on earth. Most are blind to it. God is opening eyes. Mammon and God do not go together. No prophetic ministry can ever afford to make money or be involved with money. It will always become poisoned. Always.
@IBNWNews
@IBNWNews 3 месяца назад
DO IT!
@KarenLott-h1m
@KarenLott-h1m 3 месяца назад
You and me both.
@KarenLott-h1m
@KarenLott-h1m 3 месяца назад
Also Elevation
@seandogg41
@seandogg41 2 месяца назад
Do it. But do your research first and make sure you have examples, quotes, etc. I recommend buying and reading Bethel’s book the physics of Heaven. There they claim that New Age, quantum mysticsm and occult practices such as reading auras, using power objects, etc need to be adopted by the church. It is the most damning piece of literature I’ve ever read out of a group claiming to be christians.
@johnhenrick2298
@johnhenrick2298 4 месяца назад
"If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed." - Deuteronomy 18:22. In other words, the "prophet" is a liar. God's Word still stands on that issue. The only reason people believe the "prophets" is because they are ignorant of God's Word.
@mxcollin95
@mxcollin95 4 месяца назад
Good point!
@ChristyOFaghan
@ChristyOFaghan 4 месяца назад
This needs pinned - it's the "test of a prophet" which Grudem alluded to, when quoting Thessalonians.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
That's an Old Covenant law....that does not apply in this age under the New Covenant. New Covenant prophets are tested by the body of Christ. You should learn how to rightly apply scripture.
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gmso they can lie on GOD and still be true?? Got it
@Bdelmar19
@Bdelmar19 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gmyou obviously don't read the Bible. Shame hou defend these liars instead of the truth.
@whitepunksvevo1343
@whitepunksvevo1343 4 месяца назад
this is so delusional. these people have no fear of God.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Why is it delusional? Hillsong is up and running and doing fine. I think KK is the delusional one.
@whitepunksvevo1343
@whitepunksvevo1343 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm prophesying falsely is what is delusional especially on a consistent basis as the leaders of Bethel church are prone to do. The entire N.A.R. movement has that problem along with the prosperity gospel preachers and the "seed of faith" teachers.
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm damage control 😂
@tracy5721
@tracy5721 Месяц назад
you poor soul. Read a Bible so you can know the truth and quit being deceived.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Месяц назад
@@tracy5721 You poor soul....use the brain that God gave you and quit buying into heretic hunter videos and slander. Become a Christian and learn how to discern truth from error.
@comfortandjoy2957
@comfortandjoy2957 4 месяца назад
Bethel clown show 🤡
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Brought to you by the Klever Kozar's video editing.
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm😂 and Biden is energetic behind closed doors. #CheapFakes
@vinesonline
@vinesonline 4 месяца назад
I am one of those who has recently been rescued and saved out of this prophetic nonsense. I am SO grateful. A massive burden has been lifted off my shoulders and I am forgiven and free because of Jesus ❤
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Paul tells us not to forbid prophesy....who are you following? The traditions of men or the didactic teachings of scripture?
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm we aren't obligated to believe these people are speaking for GOD, when they contradict GOD'S WORD. Instead we will test all things in light of scripture and hold on to What IS TRUE! Are you following men or GOD?
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@MinLeeMajors How are they contradicting God's Word?
@Bdelmar19
@Bdelmar19 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Seriously? Did you not watch the video
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@Bdelmar19 I started watching but was so hurt by the misrepresentation of Kris and how Jesus is being hurt by all of this childishness and mudslinging. I had to turn it off. Its over for these heretic hunters. They've been given time to repent and politely refuted but they continue on. Jesus is slow to anger and mercy but the time has come to deal with this. No I don't watch slander and a brother who is bearing a false witness against another brother.
@sneaksyranger
@sneaksyranger 4 месяца назад
And not only will no one call out Valloton, he will pick up a cool $300,000 for his weekend prophecy conference at $6,000 a head for 50 attendees. But Daniel Kolenda is having kittens over the cessationist conference being $300.
@limegreen90
@limegreen90 4 месяца назад
profitic for sure, such greedy snakes make me livid
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
There's no prohibition for charges on a conference. How paying $300 for the nothing burger Cessationist Conference is highway robbery. No content...clouds without water At least at Kris' Conference you'll receive instruction and discipleship.
@bubzilla6137
@bubzilla6137 4 месяца назад
Awww... I love kittens! 😻😻😻 (Sorry, I know what you meant but I couldn't, or rather chose not to, resist.)
@neilcameron7705
@neilcameron7705 4 месяца назад
What's the point of being a prophet if your predictions are constantly wrong? What's the point in having a prophetic ministry if people can't trust whatever you say in the name of the Lord? The only thing that is 100% guaranteed to be a clear word from God is the Bible.
@jjd1983
@jjd1983 4 месяца назад
I'm embarrassed for this guy! He talks like he has a second grade bible school degree. HR puff and stuff intellect. Thank you Steve!
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
That's because Klever Kozar altars his voice and make it sound that ways....get a clue! I'm embarrassed for you participating with the slander and blather of this channel.
@Plethorality
@Plethorality 21 день назад
Alters, mean changes, not altars. Sad that you dont know words. ​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@leraewagner210
@leraewagner210 4 месяца назад
It's all about money for all of them and their own glory. Nothing to do with God!
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
And how do you know that. That's a judgement about someone's motives. You have nothing to back up that claim. Jesus spoke about money more than any other teaching of scripture. Again just spouting an unrighteous judgement. That's what its all about for you isn't it? Assessment by sight and not facts.
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gmthey definitely aren't doing it for free...false teachers are motivated by greed
@tracy5721
@tracy5721 Месяц назад
You are so deceived and brainwashed. Read a Bible so you can k is the truth and quit defending these lying greedy false teachers you love so much. ​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@atsipan
@atsipan 4 месяца назад
I'd like to quote Heidi Baker - "Shaba" These fools. They know themselves that they are fake.
@jamesharvey7492
@jamesharvey7492 4 месяца назад
I always wonder how they look at each other knowing they are dishonest
@Classic_Rock_Chick
@Classic_Rock_Chick 4 месяца назад
@@jamesharvey7492They probably high-five each other behind closed doors.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Jesus teaches us not to call people fools. But then who is the fool here as Hillsong is up and running and doing well. See videos I posted above. More click bait for Kozar so he can make merhandise of all commenting on the video.
@Plethorality
@Plethorality 21 день назад
​​@@Classic_Rock_Chickall that unaccounted, un receipted, untaxed free money from the people in the pews. Cash, cash, cash.
@THATjeffdelaney
@THATjeffdelaney 4 месяца назад
Turns out, Bickle WAS a pathological liar after all, Sam Storms…
@kimberlyelliott7933
@kimberlyelliott7933 4 месяца назад
IS a pathological liar!
@THATjeffdelaney
@THATjeffdelaney 4 месяца назад
@@kimberlyelliott7933 , “was” as in “turned out to be.” I wasn’t using that in the past tense.
@Window4503
@Window4503 4 месяца назад
@@THATjeffdelaneyThis is why we need to revert to Old English lol. Then you could have better subjunctive options.
@Ephesians-yn8ux
@Ephesians-yn8ux 4 месяца назад
Always has been
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Nothing has been proven yet. All is said in the court of public opinion.
@clarkent61
@clarkent61 4 месяца назад
These people are evil!
@Andeezy04
@Andeezy04 4 месяца назад
Check out Adam Magaña of Active Church in San Luis Obispo, California. Unbelievable narcissistic psychopath. Unbelievably evil and delusional.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Yes the religionist like the Calvinist and reformed are doing evil by preaching a false gospel.
@Super_Pizzaman5
@Super_Pizzaman5 4 месяца назад
Dude you are great, i used to be a part of the whole prosperity garbage then i saw the original american gospel film which made me skeptical of prosperity but unknowingly i was still apart of it and was a little too young to understand. My family had been moving from church to church until james river (the stripper church) landed in our city back in 2020 and my parents (im 16) went there and it was so horrifying to me what this church was saying, and even more horrifying that my parents had been sucked into these insane beliefs, it got about 1000% worse when bill Johnson showed up which brought me and some friends i made at the church to leave, but my parents stayed. I thank you, Justin peters and every one in the community of people who are willing to critise these people, because it gave me the words to say what i felt was wrong and allowed me to leave and find a MUCH more biblical church that i go with my grandparents to in my area. (Edit: you guys should definitely go deeper in theology with your kids and show them solid theological material because even if they dont fully understand it now, it'll still bury itself in their mind)
@daveintheshed4870
@daveintheshed4870 4 месяца назад
I wish I was awake enough when I was your age to walk away from this stuff. God Bless!
@jamesharvey7492
@jamesharvey7492 4 месяца назад
There's a lot of emotional manipulation with these kind of false prophets. They love wealth and power. Power is an aphrodisiac to many of these people
@Classic_Rock_Chick
@Classic_Rock_Chick 4 месяца назад
Good for you! Glad to see a you are grounding yourself in good, solid Bible teaching. 👍
@kimberlyelliott7933
@kimberlyelliott7933 4 месяца назад
How awesome that you are seeing the truth at your age!!!! God is SO GOOD!!! God bless you ❤
@vogt999
@vogt999 4 месяца назад
I watched American Gospel and repented from this heretical theology (previously I had been planning to move to Redding and get involved in Bethel)
@oleeb
@oleeb 4 месяца назад
I've wondered since I was a child how men like this can so unashamedly mislead and lie to their followers while so obviously picking their pockets. It's astonishing that such a wide segment of the public remains so easily bamboozled and how they do not mind being fleeced over and over and over by these villains.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
There's no picking of pockets here. Receiving offerings and donations is an orthodox practice of the church.
@Bdelmar19
@Bdelmar19 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gmusing tithe money to buy a 55 million dollar house is not biblical. Nice try.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@Bdelmar19 What are you talking about? And if someone purchased a 55 million dollar house there's nothing unbiblical about it. Nice try.....your jealousy is showing.
@moomin8251
@moomin8251 4 месяца назад
Con men gonna con. I've always wondered how Christians can be so Biblically illiterate and undiscerning as to follow them.
@thecatalysm5658
@thecatalysm5658 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm So you are admitting that tithes are not for us in the NT? Thanks!
@Lasuth82
@Lasuth82 4 месяца назад
Lord I pray the sheep’s hears are open to hear this nonsense and seek after You. Read your Bible!
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Yes the heresy hunting of Klever Kozar may soon come to an end as Charismatics are considering lawsuits for defamation and slander. This video would fit that bill as Hillsong is alive and well in June 2024
@mihaivesa7719
@mihaivesa7719 4 месяца назад
Hello, I’m French young Christian. I’m following your RU-vid channel since last year and I want to thank you so much for all your work
@caroliner2029
@caroliner2029 3 месяца назад
May the Lord God continue to bless you brother, and keep you safe under the shadow of His wings. (From Australia).
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 месяца назад
Please pray for some of my extended family (in-laws) that seem to have fallen prey to these Bethel-type prophets
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
So youre an expert on prophets who you don't even think exist today....lol to the max.
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 3 месяца назад
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm I believe that there are spiritual gifts today and even I am very wary of Bethel’s associations. I won’t go into too much detail, but the ministry has a tendency to use concepts from the New Age to “reclaim spiritual practices for the Kingdom of God (!?!)”. Mike Winger has a very good video on this he released sometime last year. He is not a Calvinist and is a continuationist, and is also very wary of Bethel. Go and find the video on his channel to see where he discusses the red flags in “Physics of Heaven”.
@TheCaliReadingTeacher
@TheCaliReadingTeacher 4 месяца назад
Great editing and clips, Steve! ¡Basta!
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Are you serious...Klever Kozars editing is juvenile and poorly done. Just compare it to Encounter Today's Channel...its up to date and cutting edge.
@TheCaliReadingTeacher
@TheCaliReadingTeacher 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Ok, point taken. Steve is the first to admit he’s not a professional editor. I’ve watched him a long time now (since 2020) and as a self-taught content creator, working in his basement, I’ve seen growth and effort in his presentation skills. His goal is to warn others of false teaching which is rampant now. If his folksiness, amateur skills, and humor prevent you from thinking critically about false teaching in the church, there are plenty of content creators for you to choose from and watch. To come to his site and berate his efforts discounts his value as a brother in Christ. He started off as a writer which is how I found him. His writing is clear and concise. His content is solid. We’ve become a para-family here and genuinely care about one another. The struggle many of us have been through coming out of destructive and false teaching is real and this site provides education and support. What you don’t understand about Steve and Paulette is that they make no pretense about who they are nor their skill level. They are self-deprecating and humble. They have a message to share, hoping more come away from slick spiritual nonsense that they fell victim too and left. Get on your high horse and go back to your flashy Five Star channel. Jesus was humble of heart and didn’t seek to impress people. Neither does Steve. But you do. ¡Basta!
@jeffreydouglas351
@jeffreydouglas351 4 месяца назад
This is not God speaking
@namelesswreck6383
@namelesswreck6383 4 месяца назад
Brother kozar, How dare you put sweet Elmo in this mess 🤣😂
@michaelwolfe8888
@michaelwolfe8888 4 месяца назад
Actually Elmo is busy celebrating Pride degeneracy these days.
@JustSara376
@JustSara376 4 месяца назад
😂❤
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Birds of a feather flock together!
@estevenn_
@estevenn_ 4 месяца назад
That was hilarious
@gailwatson4927
@gailwatson4927 4 месяца назад
Love it Steve. Thank you. I needed a laugh tonight.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
That's all you idle religionist like to do...mock at brothers and sisters in Christ as you go from one heretic hunter to another.
@mes7662
@mes7662 Месяц назад
I love your comedic timing! Your editing is great!
@OnTheMountHomestead
@OnTheMountHomestead 4 месяца назад
Knowing that (while its a shame) that Bethel hates people talking out against their false teachings and thus having all those videos taken down, now having to distort videos to avoid copyright claims, i love that you have fun it. I love your edits.lol yes, i made a run-on sentence and i love it.😂
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 4 месяца назад
Hahaha!! Thanks so much!
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 4 месяца назад
^What he said, Steve ❤
@OnTheMountHomestead
@OnTheMountHomestead 4 месяца назад
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch thank *you* for what you do.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Sad
@gabymeyer8003
@gabymeyer8003 4 месяца назад
On Valloton and Bickle I notice a smirk that looks like duper's delight.
@debbiederbas4630
@debbiederbas4630 3 месяца назад
Thanks for putting words to what I heard but felt I was so alone. I’m so saddened by the destruction of the body of Christ but if God brought me out he can bring all believer’s out🙏📖💕
@Plethorality
@Plethorality 21 день назад
I dont miss having to sit still and feeling terrible about feeling terrible about being in these churches.
@deborahlee4441
@deborahlee4441 4 месяца назад
I love the Basta! At the end of your videos! 😂 kills me every time
@NormBa
@NormBa 3 месяца назад
It's time for Over The Hillsong to metamorphose into a Swan Song and blow away.
@leahwilliams3618
@leahwilliams3618 3 месяца назад
Robin Bullock is "prophesying" that it's "the time of the wind," so that might just happen.
@TheDahveeed
@TheDahveeed 4 месяца назад
Either it's God's authoritative word or it isn't. How on Earth do these people come up with the idea that prophecy has changed? Just because they say so? Should have put a dinger for every time Kris said "God said". This is ridiculous.
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 месяца назад
One day he will hear "I never knew you..."
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Yah you wouldn't know anything God said because only His sheep hear His voice.
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 😆 says the one supporting the false teachers
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@Dilley_G45 Begging the question what makes you non false. We already know that Calvinism, Reformed Theology and Cessationism is false....badda bing bodda boom...3 strikes youre out. Grow up and stop participating in divisive heresy hunting videos. They're no longer going to be permitted on You Tube anyway. Give a witness for Jesus rather than a divisive busy body who has nothing better to do then watch these mocking clown videos.
@knowsnugget3321
@knowsnugget3321 3 месяца назад
Great Editing!
@NewYawkahBroad
@NewYawkahBroad 4 месяца назад
His background looks like an overhaul of the Laugh-In stage set...I just watched 'A Baby in the Charismatic Bath Water' from your suggestion. These people have no fear of God. False prophecy is a joke to them. Woe, to them...
@catostrophiccannon3447
@catostrophiccannon3447 4 месяца назад
woe to you Fran Marie , UNLESS you hit the LIKE BUTTON
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
I don't think you have any fear of God chiming in with a heretic hunter. That's all his channel is. All these heretic hunter channel are about to come down as Charismatics are considering lawsuits against slander and defamation. You're part of it.
@connihudson1578
@connihudson1578 4 месяца назад
Sickening!! The people there are not victims. They want these false teachers. 😢😢😢. These false teachers need to read Jude and II Peter and tepent before its too late
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Maybe you Calvinist should consider the false gospel you pedal and divide the church with.
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 3 месяца назад
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm You do know there are non Calvinists who would agree right? And that there are even Calvinist continuationists? So people can believe in post-apostolic church leaders having spiritual gifts and still be Calvinists, while people can also believe that they ceased and NOT be Calvinist.
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 4 месяца назад
Deuteronomy 18:20-21. Stick to the Bible for a 100% accurate prophetic Word
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 4 месяца назад
What about specific directions for your life? Is that in the Bible? That’s why we need the gift of prophecy today.
@Window4503
@Window4503 4 месяца назад
@@ryanehlis426You don’t need specific instructions. No one in the Bible had specific instructions for a good life. Closest thing would be the prophets and that was for ministry, not general living. So your very premise is off. Live freely using the wisdom of Scripture and by the gospel. God has already said what’s right and wrong. If you need more wisdom to apply what he said then ask.
@johnturley6091
@johnturley6091 3 месяца назад
First rule of "False Prophet Club"....there is no "False Prophet Club", second rule of "False Prophet Club".....never prophesy specifc events or dates so as to be held accountable! As usual great video and content. Thank you for all your time and work in exposing all the wolves in sheep clothing!
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 3 месяца назад
Thanks, John!!
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 4 месяца назад
Ive been waiting for this. Thank you!
@tammyspurdle9208
@tammyspurdle9208 4 месяца назад
Thank you Steve❤
@rufuspatrick2764
@rufuspatrick2764 4 месяца назад
Thanks for posting this.
@tony.biondi
@tony.biondi 4 месяца назад
Spot on! Thank you.
@JonJaeden
@JonJaeden 4 месяца назад
Don't be concerned, it will not harm you It's only me pursuing somethin' I'm not sure of Across my dreams with nets of wonder I chase the bright elusive butterfly of love.
@shawngillogly6873
@shawngillogly6873 4 месяца назад
They don't even follow Grudem's model. He's very clear they shouldn't be saying "Thus sayeth the Lord." Or "God says." But I agree none of them hold anyone accountable for the excesses. And Grudem has always been soft toward the excesses from his teaching.
@mikewilliams9651
@mikewilliams9651 4 месяца назад
Go for it, Steve! Pulling no punches there.
@garydurandt4260
@garydurandt4260 4 месяца назад
To be extremely kind to these "prophets" basically means that you should not believe anything they say UNLESS it comes about,(which it never does) I do not see any difference between these people and fortune tellers/clairvoyants?
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Which prophecies have not come about.
@garydurandt5737
@garydurandt5737 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm May I turn your question around and say which have? Just to look at Katt Kerr, Timothy Dixon, Hank Kunneman, Julie Green etc etc. They are nothing but liars usings God's name in their false prophecies. Julie Green alone has around 100 proven false prophecies.
@xxstevenicholxx8732
@xxstevenicholxx8732 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm the one in this video. It is now July 01
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@xxstevenicholxx8732 If you read my first comment I put links to 3 videos that show Hillsong up and running and doing well.
@alexs5368
@alexs5368 4 месяца назад
I like how it clearly shows Kozar disliked the Hillsong video on youtube lol
@MillennialForChrist
@MillennialForChrist 4 месяца назад
🤭🤭🤭I just noticed that! Thx for the chuckle!
@marjieandrews3598
@marjieandrews3598 4 месяца назад
😢so very very sad...Celebrity pastors will. NOT be getting a free pass for their deception. The truth is being revealed...praying for the sheep who remain blind.
@nicoarnold2200
@nicoarnold2200 4 месяца назад
Let me answer Larry's question to Grundem: What's the difference between OT and NT prophecy? According to them in the OT God spoke and the hearers heard it perfectly every time, and even penned it with 100% accuracy. Now in the NT that we have the Spirit living in each believer, we tend to make mistakes.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
We prophesy in part and see through a glass darkly.
@nicoarnold2200
@nicoarnold2200 3 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Implying that today's gift of prophecy is falable?
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 3 месяца назад
@@nicoarnold2200 No its only see part of it as it states. In other word when a person prophesies, there may be some that it true and some that is not applicable. The reason is is that prophesy comes through finite humans. That's why we in the body need to judge it as Paul instructed us today. I think prophesy includes a bible message or teaching. There can be a good part of it that's correct but some that is not. There's a saying....we chew up the meat and spit out the bones. That's how we judge prophesy.
@nicoarnold2200
@nicoarnold2200 3 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Your view is pretty much what I was pointing out in my original comment. How is it possible that the old testament prophets never made errors, not one. And now in the new testament where we are indelt by the holy spirit we tend to make mistakes. It is not logical at all so my point is that prophecy in the new covenant is not about fortune-telling or future telling as it almost always is, but of explaining scripture. Scripture is prophecy that was written down right? We therefore explain prophecy as we explain scripture. Hebrews 1 explains it linke this Long ago God spoke to our early fathers in many different ways. He spoke through the early preachers. But in these last days He has spoken to us through His Son.
@nicoarnold2200
@nicoarnold2200 3 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm I hear your honesty and love for the Word brother, so let me just reply by saying: All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. (Tim 3:16) We do not need modern-day prophecy to add to scripture as we have it all. Please look up a fairly new documentary called American Gospel. It changed my life. God bless
@alexvoicetravels
@alexvoicetravels 4 месяца назад
Right on point yet again
@scottspeig
@scottspeig 3 месяца назад
Strong comment at the end, and as someone raised in the continuationist movement, may I say - not wrong!
@natepalmer5805
@natepalmer5805 4 месяца назад
Outside of being continuists/charismatic, I have a real hard time saying Grudem, Storms, etc. are in the same “movement” as Bethel. I would also be shocked if many, or any, of those within the Bethel circles know what those men have said about Prophesy.
@RD-yj9zj
@RD-yj9zj 3 месяца назад
Great work!!! I'm sick of these wolves devouring the flock. I have dear friends that sit under this narcissist.
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 месяца назад
If his spirit were alive Vallotton would have great shame. 😢
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Are you sure yours's is alive. Don't you have to persevere to the end to make it??
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gmall of the elect will finish because of CHRIST
@christianporter3638
@christianporter3638 4 месяца назад
Kinda weird....i was just talking to my Dad abt Vallotton, false prophets, etc. at dinner not 5min ago. Now this pops up in my feed? Could be coincidence....could be Google listening through my phone... Anyways, its sad to see that people cannot see through this utter nonsensical garbage. But, we have to be gentle in how we speak to those that attend churches like this and not sound condemning. Just present the facts - scripture (and if available, evidence of their ineptitude)
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Idle chatter about who is false and who isn't. Ever thought of sharing the gospel and actually listening to a teaching by Kris and evaluating for yourself instead of this clown misrepresenting and slandering.
@mhforestry
@mhforestry Месяц назад
This is not idle talk, I have seen their fruit firsthand and it's ugly and harmful, yes we should share the gospel with (them) because they obviously don't know it
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Месяц назад
@@mhforestry And you think you do....no you're the deceived religious hypocrite.
@caroleimani9754
@caroleimani9754 4 месяца назад
I don't know who is worse---Bill Johnson or Chris Valloton?😮
@kaybrown4010
@kaybrown4010 4 месяца назад
yes!
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 месяца назад
‘Birds of a Feather’ 🤷🏻‍♂️
@rongirt
@rongirt 4 месяца назад
All of them
@willscott4785
@willscott4785 4 месяца назад
Seared consciences are ugly to behold.
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 месяца назад
While fiercely rejecting sound doctrine, liturgy and Church history, Vallotton wants to be a bit like Luther, Doctor of Theology and fierce defender of liturgy
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
You mean Martin Luther the antisemite?
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 3 месяца назад
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm Thing is, I don’t think that anyone defends Luther on that point. He’s held up as someone who stood against unbiblical traditions but it is acknowledged as someone with deep failings who said some terrible things. No one claims that Luther is infallible or above criticism, so comparisons between him and these modern “prophets” that are being called out aren’t applicable. No one will call you “judgmental” for point out Luther’s sins and failings. However the cult following of these WoF personalities will do just that if you every day anything about them.
@samueljennings4809
@samueljennings4809 3 месяца назад
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm if you SAY anything. Silly autocorrect.
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 3 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm that's a lie. Everyone needs Jesus....jews as well
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 3 месяца назад
@@samueljennings4809 What have the "modern prophets" done that is worse than Martin Luther. Paul says comparing ourselves among ourselves is not wise. Also if you break one of the laws ie sin you've broken all of them. What in particular has Word of Faith done wrong. I'm in the Word of Faith and I'm not aware of any Word of Faith teacher who preaches wrong doctrine. You say "WOF personalities" Are you judging a person's personality? As far as I know God is the one who made our personalities. If you're a Calvinist and or Reformed then you are guilty of being in a cult.
@MrKent84
@MrKent84 4 месяца назад
I Kings 22:22-23 “lying spirits” There are people/churches who have lifted themselves up to make their name greater than Gods and there are consequences for that. God is in the business of humbling people and their response to the humbling is what reveals their true colors.
@Ephesians-yn8ux
@Ephesians-yn8ux 4 месяца назад
Shabba
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 4 месяца назад
Shakababa!!
@BneiMikraOfficial
@BneiMikraOfficial 3 месяца назад
These “prophets” and various charlatans of various religions are all members of the BDG (biblical destruction group) and are Sabbatean Frankists who worship shabbtai tzvi as the messiah. Read “to eliminate the Opiate” vol 1&2 by Marvin Antleman. Shabba to them means Sh=shabbtai, abba= father, an abbreviation of “shabbtai is our father”. They use a lot of Sabbatean Frankist words and symbols
@nowikusss
@nowikusss 4 месяца назад
Greeting from Poland. Kozars are welcome
@drowningnotwaving
@drowningnotwaving 4 месяца назад
Gosh, I didn't know that Hillsong was mentioned in the Bible! Which chapter and verse is that?? 🤔🤔🤔🤪
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 месяца назад
Any passage in the NT (where they mention false teachers)
@scottspeig
@scottspeig 3 месяца назад
One of the pushbacks I've heard from continuationists is that modern prophecy is personal rather than collective. This is to avoid the concept of "adding to scripture". It's still hard for the continuationist to argue with the concept that we can't KNOW it's from God as the prophet could be wrong... In my mind, you either have prophets & prophecy, holding them to OT requirements, or you don't have it...
@NARwarsgalaxy
@NARwarsgalaxy 4 месяца назад
Shaka baba!
@jackiwheeler6963
@jackiwheeler6963 4 месяца назад
Shouldabottahonda!!
@robertburke9920
@robertburke9920 4 месяца назад
Well, it might be good to read the masterpiece novel "Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke." Explains much. Great humor. Great truths!
@timothyahernRoxyCat
@timothyahernRoxyCat 3 месяца назад
Revelations 2:5-6, "5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent (change what you are thinking) and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. 6 But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."
@TimTowe
@TimTowe 4 месяца назад
I grew up with a guy who is now a minister with a horrible porn addiction and yet he still tells me he's one of the two witnesses in Revelations! Thank God I found the one true church, Holy Orthodoxy 30 years ago!
@seandogg41
@seandogg41 3 месяца назад
Kozar yet again you are a Holy Spirit powered wrecking ball. You keep the receipts of what these clowns say and I’m here for it. Thanks for your hard work!
@ronaldgmarklin
@ronaldgmarklin 4 месяца назад
I like your site very much. But posting this shorter clip will probably have more people watching because most people don’t have or take the time to watch your longer ones. They will look at the length and pass on it. Also when I am sharing with people who aren’t retired like me I know they will be more likely to look at this and then when they have the time they will watch you and your lovely wife interact on the longer version. Blessings. Keep up with the humor. I love it.
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 месяца назад
Didn’t he also brag about the renewed virgins that didn’t happen ?
@mrissarosenthal7500
@mrissarosenthal7500 4 месяца назад
Well said Steven!
@oztheberean
@oztheberean 4 месяца назад
As mentioned, they will never be held accountable until the day of judgment. But I don’t worry because false teachers and spirits are promised to us in scripture. So why do we act surprised!?
@SSJCyan
@SSJCyan 4 месяца назад
Why would nt prophecy be so horribly inferior to old covenant prophecy?
@salt1956
@salt1956 4 месяца назад
Dry bones? Productive caterpillar? What?
@cat-bg3rv
@cat-bg3rv 3 месяца назад
Ezekiel 37. About Israel being restored to Her land. Since May 14, 1948, Israelis, Jews from all around have come home. This has been going on since then. Look at where we are at today. Jews are being told to leave. Where are they going to? Israel. As promised by The LORD. The Abrahamic Covenant. HE does not lie. His Word is not based upon their works. His grace and mercy is shown to them and to Gentiles. If we stick to the Literal Historical Contextual interpretation, we actually understand the Hoy scriptures as written. Nothing allegorical. Nothing man-made.
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 месяца назад
Gruden iis a shadow of his former, orthodox self 😕
@knowsnugget3321
@knowsnugget3321 3 месяца назад
The PROFIT got it wrong, He should have said "THE MANTLE OF PERVERSION"
@DRVenard
@DRVenard 4 месяца назад
I mean, like, they're only human, right? At least they aren't saying they are speaking for God! But, they ARE claiming to speak for God🙄Now, that's a big ol breaking of the 3rd commandment, if I'm not mistaken! But, hey, at least they aren't sexually immoral (Doc Brown strawman😉). Oh, wait, YEAH, they are!!! I have no use for anyone claiming prophetic or apostolic authority! Appalling!
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 4 месяца назад
Doc Obs Brown
@rhondahart2416
@rhondahart2416 4 месяца назад
Wow! Goats, Goats, Goats!
@dryxeyes
@dryxeyes 4 месяца назад
I like the chipmunk voice the best, it fits his rodent like personality
@jpaulinc1
@jpaulinc1 4 месяца назад
He knows he's a fake. I don't see Jesus in him at all. He's not just in doctrinal error, he's a true wolf in sheep's clothing. ^^I'm right about that.^^ (LOL)
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
I dont' see Jesus in your divisive bearing false witness self.
@jpaulinc1
@jpaulinc1 4 месяца назад
@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm If you can't tell he's a wolf, then you want to be deceived. We aren't being divisive. We are about obeying the Scriptures by exposing these false Christians and helping true followers of Christ not be deceived. We want the truth to be known, they want to profit off of the body of Christ by twisting the Scriptures. Go read 2 Peter and Jude. It's as plain as day.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@jpaulinc1 Are you a Calvinist; reformed a Cessationist....then guess what you are deceived. You preach a false gospel and you deny the gifts of Holy Spirit. Best take the log out of your own eye before you weak attempts to remove those from your brothers. Scripture does not say to "expose false teacher." You don't know scripture otherwise you wouldn't be a Calvinist or a Cessationist. And yes you are divisive. Any person going online and viewing all of Klever Kozars videos would know of his juvenile videos that make fun and mock fellow believers. Look at all the comments; people mocking and laughing at Kris Vallotin. If you want to be taken seriously have a discussion with Kris and share your concerns in a polite manner; not in a mocking holier than thou immature childish manner. To the world we looks like a brood of vipers online. Its disgusting. You have no fear or respect for Jesus or His church,
@timestealr2967
@timestealr2967 4 месяца назад
Laws of the Fall: A Lie can never become the truth!
@bowinghearts
@bowinghearts 4 месяца назад
Great Video Steven.
@maximpestsolutions3696
@maximpestsolutions3696 4 месяца назад
Chris V. = LOL 😆
@SSJCyan
@SSJCyan 4 месяца назад
The slow motion edits just kill me dude lol😊
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Yes all the clowns on this video have been commenting on the Klever Klown work of Kozar.
@K4DL-AL
@K4DL-AL 3 месяца назад
Prophesies and the office or the Prophic have ceased and will not return until after the rapture.
@Steve-og4ii
@Steve-og4ii 3 месяца назад
Love the cat! Keep him in your videos!
@paulcgretired6245
@paulcgretired6245 3 месяца назад
Isn't IHOP a copyright infringement on the IHOP Restaurant Chain?! I would think so; how do they get away with it?
@TheDoctor394
@TheDoctor394 4 месяца назад
Amazing. You've managed to show me someone who annoys me more than Elmo does.
@zachindes
@zachindes 3 месяца назад
Had a thought while watching: NT prophecy - put through the lense of what Jesus said - should look a lot more like exhortation and conviction and encouragement. Prophecy has been done off the stage at my church and the few times it’s been done there’s been an obvious (to me) difference in power the times people have said “anointing, breakout revival, holy spiritual power, etc” over the times it was actually specific BUT said to the entire congregation. Just my two cents.
@Howiefm28496
@Howiefm28496 4 месяца назад
At first glance I thought I saw the Brothel Prophet. Turn out I may be right at first sight😂
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
More mocking...familiar with brothels heh First think that comes to your mind heh....interesting
@treythompson4103
@treythompson4103 4 месяца назад
He is a blasphemer of the highest order along with his friend Billy Johnson
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
Best not to attribute works of Holy Spirit to devil. It has been biblically defined as the unpardonable sin.
@MinLeeMajors
@MinLeeMajors 4 месяца назад
​@@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm yea..that glitter coming outta the vents and angel feathers...are real signs 😵‍💫
@trey7572
@trey7572 4 месяца назад
The Holy Spirit has never been at Bethel Redding. If he ever does show up, it would be in judgment.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@trey7572 That's an accusation with no support which means you're bearing a false witness which is breaking one of the big 10. Your comment which is the one that shows no presence of the Holy Spirit and is up for judgment.
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm
@5StarBibleTeaching-mh2gm 4 месяца назад
@@MinLeeMajors Got any proof that that didn't happen. No just fake heresy hunter hearsay. You're bearing a false witness against a brother and not discerning the body of Christ. Paul said many sleep who don't do that.
@Amy.Munson34
@Amy.Munson34 4 месяца назад
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 месяца назад
How DARE you follow up on a false prophet !!
@brianrendulich3888
@brianrendulich3888 3 месяца назад
Why do we need prophecy now? We have the Bible...the very Word of God to find out what God is saying!
@TrevorSTL79
@TrevorSTL79 4 месяца назад
False Profits: You're gonna be like super rich and successful and stuff and you will have a bountiful future. WW3: Well ackshually...
@trainwellracewell
@trainwellracewell 3 месяца назад
The moral of the story is don’t walk too fast, make any sudden movements, and be very cautious or you’ll scare the Holy Spirit away. After all, the Spirit is very skiddish
@Tytora
@Tytora 4 месяца назад
I come here for the ending 😂😂
@TheVisualCo
@TheVisualCo 4 месяца назад
Actually it turned out correct. 27 months later Carl Lentz came out and has repented and is back in the media for the first time on his healing journey. Exactly 27months later.
@debravan-aalst4723
@debravan-aalst4723 4 месяца назад
But he is no longer associated with Hillsong and has actually been brave enough to speak up and expose some of its spiritually unhealthy culture
@technodan3083
@technodan3083 4 месяца назад
Where's steveguti with another "urgent" prayer request???
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 4 месяца назад
Hahaha!!!
@briankristensen349
@briankristensen349 4 месяца назад
Vær mig synder nådig, Du som er retfærdig.
@but24God
@but24God 4 месяца назад
Dead on target as always. Thanks for keeping up with his "27 months" lie.
@bazkib
@bazkib 4 месяца назад
If he's a prophet, I've got three feet.
@shawnmason8543
@shawnmason8543 3 месяца назад
Because Wayne, Michael and Sam are as off base as the rest but for some reason solid Christians keep giving them credit like they are Biblical.
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