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Proving a Sequence Converges with the Formal Definition Advanced Calculus 

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Proving a Sequence Converges with the Formal Definition Advanced Calculus

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@thomasyassmin715
@thomasyassmin715 4 года назад
Cannot stress how helpful this was ! Been struggling to wrap my head around this, and now it makes so much sense!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
awesome!
@willdingwall8503
@willdingwall8503 4 года назад
THANK YOU. I've been struggling with this for weeks. I understand it now at last.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
awesome!
@RellowMinecraftJourney
@RellowMinecraftJourney 6 месяцев назад
This guy is saving lives.
@enes1565
@enes1565 5 лет назад
we need more complicated sequences Amigo..
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
thanks man, your comment is motivating:)
@myreflection287
@myreflection287 4 года назад
Thank you so much! Been so stressed out with online classes! Super helpful!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
You are very welcome!
@nathanellul5787
@nathanellul5787 4 года назад
about 1.5 yrs later and still a great explanation. Cheers!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
👍
@observever7808
@observever7808 3 года назад
Although there's lack of theory, this method of proving and justification is easy to understand!
@Karim-nq1be
@Karim-nq1be Год назад
There's "lack of theory" because the goal in this case is to apply theory to solve a specific case.
@RellowMinecraftJourney
@RellowMinecraftJourney 6 месяцев назад
I am writing tomorrow and this was the concept i was confused about until no, Thank you very much.
@kristenchou
@kristenchou 5 лет назад
Sandwich theorem: Lim(n+1)/(n+1) -> 1 as n -> infinity. Lim(n-1)/(n+1) -> 1 as n-> infinity. (n-1)/(n+1) < n/(n+1) < 1 Hence lim n/(n+1) -> infinity as n -> infinity
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
i think you typoed at the end, should be ->1,but very clever way of doing this, awesome, thanks for sharing, I don't think I've ever seen it done this particular way:)
@kristenchou
@kristenchou 5 лет назад
@@TheMathSorcerer oops yes youre right haha!
@laytion4585
@laytion4585 3 года назад
3:03 may I ask why is it that we're able to insert another equation in between and use that one instead? edit: (my thinking), by an equation larger than the original one, wouldn't its N also be larger? and shouldn't we find the lowest possible N?
@MrPog09
@MrPog09 Год назад
You're really a maths wizard fr, thanks for saving my grades.
@PunmasterSTP
@PunmasterSTP Год назад
Proving a sequence converges? More like "Phenomenal video with great information for us!"
@killuaenthusiast
@killuaenthusiast 3 года назад
Thank you, sir. Incredible explanation.
@AnjaliSharma06
@AnjaliSharma06 3 года назад
your explanation is amazing, thanks a ton!!!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 года назад
You are welcome!
@Kaleraa
@Kaleraa 4 года назад
So.... I'm new here but.... is no one gonna talk about the rat?
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
Hahahahahah
@hellman108
@hellman108 5 лет назад
This a super solid explanation. Thank you
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
Thanks so glad it helped
@ckeimel
@ckeimel 4 года назад
thank you so much. I was stuck with the first exercise. Now I begin to understand how to do it.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
Great!
@xxrawrgameremo98xx86
@xxrawrgameremo98xx86 3 года назад
You've been carrying my mark through university. Thank you for the great vids :)
@deborahodion5240
@deborahodion5240 2 года назад
Finally understand this. Thanks
@ajitasingh6597
@ajitasingh6597 3 года назад
It was very amazing...I always wondered what is the use of m and then m greater than 1/epsilon....now it's almost clear
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 года назад
❤️
@Charjallz
@Charjallz 5 лет назад
You explained this very well, and in a fun way! I always get stuck on proofs. Does this show it converges then? And do you have any videos that explain what it means? Thanks!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
ya it shows it converges, yeah check my advanced calculus playlist for other convergence proofs, basically it means that when n gets really really big, n/(n + 1) gets really really close to 1:)
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
so if we let n go to infinity and we get a number, then we say the limit exists, it is the number, in this case 1, and the sequence n/(n + 1) converges to 1
@SeeTv.
@SeeTv. 3 года назад
Amazing video! Very understandable
@1971kitcha
@1971kitcha 4 года назад
I'm reading the mathematical proofs by Gary Chartrand, which is ur prescribed book for proofs, and I have gone through this problem at 307 th page
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
Very nice👍
@huntermaxfield5642
@huntermaxfield5642 5 лет назад
great video for explaining the procedure and intuition behind the proof. thanks.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
Thanks man
@zahinahmed4216
@zahinahmed4216 4 года назад
nice video ...but i have a confusion...why 1/(n+1)
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
Because n +1 is bigger than n so the fraction on the left is smaller
@aidandizaji8876
@aidandizaji8876 17 дней назад
very informative video, thank you
@ivanlo7195
@ivanlo7195 2 года назад
I might feel something might not logically correct in the scratch work, the statement (1/n+1)
@kingsykes7597
@kingsykes7597 3 года назад
haha my question is how you making this seem simple and interesting...THANK YOU SO MUCH for the help
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 года назад
Thank you❤️
@32_gurjotsingh82
@32_gurjotsingh82 3 года назад
thanks i was really strulggling to find the exact wordings to explain that formal defination..iin order to imagine clearly....
@erikagarfias8731
@erikagarfias8731 4 года назад
For proving the sequence converges with the formal definition, how would we know when to stop, would be when we reach 1/n in general or varies by each question?
@ruries4240
@ruries4240 10 месяцев назад
Cant I say 1/n +1 is less than epsilon? Because when u simplify the original modulus expression it gives u 1/n +1?
@Or0203
@Or0203 3 года назад
love it when little n is bigger than big n
@heathrobertson2405
@heathrobertson2405 Год назад
Thank you very helpful!
@hiranmaimohan3399
@hiranmaimohan3399 3 года назад
Great explanation !!!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 года назад
Thank you !
@gisellabradley7270
@gisellabradley7270 5 лет назад
Would it be the same proof if the denominator is n+2 or n+3?
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
Very similar yup!!
@Jade-sv6mz
@Jade-sv6mz 2 года назад
you just saved my life
@captain7039
@captain7039 4 года назад
👍🏻 easily understandable video👌 ,we want more examples.
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
I will do more!! thank you!
@dinirahmawati4257
@dinirahmawati4257 4 года назад
Thank you it helps a lot
@tarekzoabi9031
@tarekzoabi9031 3 года назад
Is having the actual value of the limit necessary to be able to prove it's existence? I mean can you prove the existence of the limit _before_ finding it's numerical value?
@akinyimildred6012
@akinyimildred6012 Год назад
Good work😃
@hmasters8538
@hmasters8538 2 года назад
sir, how about capital N ??do we just ignore it when we write the final answer? or we can choose both weather ignore or write it?
@MegaLovehope
@MegaLovehope 3 года назад
You are the best !!!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 3 года назад
Thx😀
@issam2901
@issam2901 5 лет назад
Suppose you didn't use the fact that 1/(n+1) < 1/n then you would find n > 1/ε - 1. It will yield the same result at the end. My question is why did you use 1/n > 1/n+1 ? It seems unnecessary. And i am asking this because i have seen this proof in many textbooks done the same way you did it. Am i missing something ?
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 5 лет назад
no you are not, it's just that , I think that n > 1/e is cleaner than n >1/e - 1. You could CERTAINLY do it that way, there is nothing wrong with that, you could say you are ch oosing an integer n such that n > 1/e - 1 via the archimedean property and it's all ok
@bodozeidler9118
@bodozeidler9118 4 года назад
But why is a convergent sum like 1/n regarded as =1, although it never becomes 1 ? Is it by Definition regarded as 1? Or is it a believe that it becomes 1 by Infinite procedure?
@mo8046
@mo8046 3 года назад
What would go wrong if I tried to prove that the limit converges to any number other than 1? What would go wrong if I tried to prove that it converges to 2?
@ericw2859
@ericw2859 4 года назад
you save my life thankyou
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
You are welcome!
@maxsmith8474
@maxsmith8474 2 года назад
This was the video where it clicked, ty
@justinernest2363
@justinernest2363 Год назад
how were you supposed to know that you had to make 1/n+1
@kagayakuangel5828
@kagayakuangel5828 4 года назад
At 3:10....How do you know that 1/n is less that epsilon? Since at 4:58 you said we can't just write |(n/n+1)-1| < ε ...please explain this to me....and what does everyone mean when they say they can "choose" epsilon?
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
because we are figuring it out(it's the scratchwork, so we can do anything), in the proof, the 2nd part, we have to formally show it:) Sometimes people say choose e>0, but really,it's N that we choose. In these proofs we have to find N. I will upload more of these soon. It's a tough topic!!! BTW the reason we can choose N is because of the Archimedean Principle, it says given any number c, we can find a natural number N that is bigger than c. So in this example we chose N > 1/e
@youngzuczek344
@youngzuczek344 Год назад
Why did you switch from 1/n+1 to 1/n ?
@hidbulbzrus
@hidbulbzrus 8 дней назад
my teacher almost always uses N interchangeably for integers. Like why why why... and he wrote his own textbook rather than using something excellent like Cummings or Buck.
@1971kitcha
@1971kitcha 4 года назад
whether calculus is related to binomial theorm?
@dabisax2536
@dabisax2536 5 лет назад
Why did you subtract two from the denominator and conclud epsilon is greater than the value .
@ntvonline9480
@ntvonline9480 4 года назад
Why do you have to show every step of your simplifying? Why can't you jump from the definition of convergence to (1/n)? (Trying to save some pencil lead) :D
@NoName-jh7yj
@NoName-jh7yj 4 года назад
Why is 1/(n+1)
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
never:) I just used
@NoName-jh7yj
@NoName-jh7yj 4 года назад
@@TheMathSorcerer ok, thank you very much
@NoName-jh7yj
@NoName-jh7yj 4 года назад
@@TheMathSorcerer I'm actually struggling a bit. I have no idea how to apply the same method for a limit like this: (-1)^n/(5n-2) = 0
@kneazleje
@kneazleje 3 года назад
thank you
@KonstantinKrasser
@KonstantinKrasser 11 месяцев назад
Amazing!
@andrewadams4982
@andrewadams4982 4 года назад
This is helpful, thanks a lot!
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
Awesome!
@LOVE_SHAYARI_420
@LOVE_SHAYARI_420 4 года назад
Thanks sir
@ignantxxxninja
@ignantxxxninja 2 года назад
Very helpful. Thank you
@aqueeqazam
@aqueeqazam 5 лет назад
Wow sir👍.
@askmargo
@askmargo 4 года назад
Thank you thank you thank you 🙌🏻
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
You're so welcome!
@alisondunning2446
@alisondunning2446 4 года назад
Great explanation! One part I got confused on though, why exactly did you need to apply the Archimedean principle and choose an N greater than 1/ε? Couldn't you just keep N = 1/ε, since we're going to end up with the n being greater than 1/ε anyway? Is this because we want N to be a positive integer, and if ε ∉ Z+, we will just have 1/ε ∉ Z+?
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
right we want N to be a positive integer, that's why
@turokg1578
@turokg1578 Год назад
how to show sequences like (1/n,n/(n+1))?
@turokg1578
@turokg1578 Год назад
he literally has a video on that. in case some1 else is searching for it here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B5rqQtp-LIQ.html
@IntegratingIntoSoceity
@IntegratingIntoSoceity 8 месяцев назад
All hail the rat puppet; the only thing carrying me through Calc this year 😩🙏
@hanskywalker1246
@hanskywalker1246 Год назад
I don't understand why we need n and N, where's the difference ?
@mpandejonasshane
@mpandejonasshane Месяц назад
Im so stressed over mathematical analysis 1 that I'm currently doing 😢,, anyways Thanks alot atleast I'm catching up ,,
@jamesclerkmaxwell676
@jamesclerkmaxwell676 4 года назад
Nice !
@TheMathSorcerer
@TheMathSorcerer 4 года назад
Thank you!
@quant-prep2843
@quant-prep2843 3 года назад
god sent
@kumaripooja6351
@kumaripooja6351 6 месяцев назад
Kuchh samjh nhi aaya
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