Plenty of people buying chinese saws and had good results. Plus they are a great cheap platform for dipping your hat into the porting/modding side of things and upgrading them with quality cylinders and pistons from well known companies!
Good honest review Boedy, I like that you are reviewing from just a home owner point of view, a good perspective would be what a rental place would charge for a 2 day rental of a 62cc saw would be. Thanks for your videos I really enjoyed the hustle. You have came a long ways since I started watchin. Chainsaw are addicting for sure....thanks again
These newer China saws are actually getting to be good Ranch/Farm saws. Not logging for a living but dealing with clearing, dead falls, etc. year round. I'm just a homeowner, 70y.o., but supplement heating with a Fireplace insert. Last year I cut up about 13 cords(Planning for the future), only one so far this year.(rain/rain and more rain) Ive only had one suffer a clutch failure and that was my lack of maintenance. Everything I cut is hardwood so I know Brodies review is spot on.
It’s good to see Chinese clones that aren’t junk. I’d guess most homeowners aren’t needing 62cc, and they probably default to an entry level Stihl or Echo for around the same price or even less (albeit with a much smaller engine and bar). It will be interesting to see the longevity of the Proyamas.
I found these for 150, and the wemars for 78, im definitely keeping a close eye on the competition, doing my research, thanks for the review b everything I was looking to find out right here.
Great to see another higher quality Zenoah clone👍🏻 Yeah, sometimes those reviews online from those who are clearly less than well versed with the products they're reviewing are borderline comical🤨😅
Thanx for the review! Looking forward to bigger wood vids. My concern is , does it last? Forward it to someone that (ab)use it for 20+ hours followed with an updated review. You are the one to make it happen. Interesting stuff.
Was impressed with reviews and had one of these ordered. After 2 weeks of back and forth and still no saw I forced a refund(AliExpress) and ended up catching a HUS372xp/24" Bar/chain combo with a discount from Amazon. $190.00 to my door tax included. Wasn't what I originally wanted but after getting it setup and the carb. adjusted I am very pleased. I added a NeoTec 28" Bar/chain combo deal for $49(heavily discounted for the holidays) Happy with the decision, but still like the idea of adding the Proyama......... maybe after I can sell a few of my other saws - Have to keep the wife happy.
I must have been lucky, mine came with 20" + 24". I think the more reputable Chinese manufacturers are improving quality as they go, others are take the money and run. Great video, we need these honest opinions!
They have a trimmer multi tool set up ive been seriously thinking of buying for my lawn care buisness but not knowing their quality ive been hesitant. Judging by what you've seen so far you think its worth a shot?
Arre the Proyama saws compatible with name brand machines? Worried about needing a chain or bar on the weekend and not being able to get a replacement on a Saturday or Sunday
A couple questions. What is squish? Is it the same chassis as the other Zenoah clones, or are the cases a little bigger, bigger bearings ... or is it same plastics, caps, etc. I know the air filter is different (so cover may be taller). Looked pretty grunty out of the box with that open port cylinder. How do they get away with that nice open can muffler when everyone else is putting cats and/or strato? The 2 laminate bars and chisel chain alone are worth 50 bucks. And, you get a new saw that runs really good (My 80 dollar Zenoah clone is a decent little saw, a little vibey, but runs really good - and probably on the 6th season, though I have a lot of other saws I like more - but pretty light and strong - it is ported now though, so that's not really fair ... heh heh).
The Chinese manufacturers include the volume of the squish area above the piston in their calculation for measuring the cc's of a 2 stroke motor. I learned this from years of building motorized bikes using the little Chinese 2 strokes. They sell these 66cc motors as 80cc. This is common knowledge to those of us involved in the hobby. I can't tell you whether this is a shady marketing ploy or just their way of measuring cylinder volume. This practice could possibly be the reason why the saw does not measure out to the claimed volume. I bought a Neo-tec 872i ( comes with upgraded cylinder, crank, coil and a Walbro carb) last year. I added an Eagan Straight Shot muffler. I run 24'" and 28" bars. It is a beast. Fit and finish is maybe 85%, but nothing that has affected the performance. 40:1 with non -ethanol 90 and Royal Purple oil. Revs out crisp and clean with zero cylinder deposits. Excellent value for $350.
I have heard this explanation before. I still will cut them zero slack. I think it is either shady or it is ignorant, and I do not think they are ignorant. So yeah, they are purposefully trying to trick the consumer.
Engine kicks back when it stops on compression, and can sometimes break the starter. By holding a length of rope pulled the launcher cushions the shock and does not break. “Easy start” starters absorb this shock automatically without pulling the rope.
Like you said before. The Japanese did it with the motorcycle to eventually be the best in the world. The Chinease saws will one day be pretty good too. They are definitely improving!
The lack of original designs is what concerns me on that. Without the lessons you learn in research and development you don't gain the knowledge to make something exceptional.
If you watched his box opening of the chainsaw earlier in the day, it doesn't need one. The factory muffler is wide open with no baffles. It's amazing actually.
Zenoah clone? (Have a real Zenoah engine, and am wondering about *oil.* Trying to build consensus, and am wondering if these like Maxima K2, which I already have and wonder if I made a mistake.)
Just putting in my vote for your trip to China. I would definitely buy a hot 50cc class Chinese clone closed port saw. Probably buy more than one as long as it isn't a clamsheĺl. And yes , truth in advertising. If it is 62, call it a 62. I would like it if you weighed the saws you review like dyno joe does. I don't know exactly what is up but I handled a cs4910 at home depot for the first time the other day . Now it was in their rental dept. which means it is absolutely reliable. They used to rent only Makitas. They only had 2 saws for rent, a 4910 and a 590. That being said echo claims the 4910 weighs 10.6 lbs . Found a claimed weight of 10 lbs for a poulan 3050 online. Same saw as my 4620 but 49cc. The cs4910 feels like an absolute pig compared to my 4620. Kind of surprised me actually.
You could covert it to that pretty easy. The 3/8 sprocket doesn't care the thickness of the chain but you do have to get the correct Husky bar for it. That's what I bought and it fit.
LOL - haven't purchased any in recent years that had an issue out of the box. Not that I'd trust any of the Top handle saws. Half of those have no chain brake, just a hand guard.
I like to see a comparison of this compare to my black max BM 5820 20 inch 50cc chainsaw which I think has a lot of balls and it's about the same price as this
5:43 I spent hours trying to get mine running to no avail. 300+ pulls and it will not fire. Proper fuel mix, 91 octane no ethanol fuel, checked spark plug, followed manual instructions implicitly, watched YT videos....saw just would not fire up, even after 300+ pulls. Already started the refund process. Guess I'll just stick to my Stihls and Husqavarnas.
And, though it doesn't matter really, I'll bet that Proyama when it breaks in would beat the echo 590 by a small margin - but the 590's are a great bang for the buck too - mine was 360 off ebay - a while ago, they are probably 500 now? And, I know everyone hates 590's but I like mine. I don't care if it is slightly slower and heavier than a Husq 562 or Stihl 362. It cuts within a second or 2 max, and runs really good.
If you pull the cylinder look and see if it has a 48 on one of the 4 sides. That might very well be the cylinder you got. I have 2 of them. The piston is 47.8ish mm the stroke is 34mm on my saw. 61.5 actual CC. It's OK but the transfers are too small for the CC of the motor.
If yours is similar to mine the clutch isn't really happy with keeping up with the motor. Mine gets hot when I really push it. I put a 24" 3/8 .058 Husky bar on it and the clutch on mine really doesn't like pushing that.
If you "big bore" a 54.5cc platform with that top end you have to machine 1.5mm x 7.2.m off of the entire top of the crankcase minus the transfers. I will be happy to provide a link of where to buy the top end kit.
I had a 48mm bore 61.5cc one of these called a timberpro years ago, it didnt run any better than the 54.5cc joncutter version. The ports just cant feed the extra displacement so it didnt perform like a 61cc saw, I told people it was a 50 because it ran like one. The clutch also dosnt like long bars, I run 16 inch bars on these saws to save the clutch. I dont care about the 61.5cc version of this saw, I like the 54cc better, it pulls more rpm and cuts faster in most everything I cut.
Ya, I have a 460. it's built like a tank. good saw, but my Zenoah clones are just as good for a fraction of the money. Not dissing Husky, I love them, The Zenoahs have Husky design roots. @@skrompf
@@skrompfI agree. For a home owner saw you can't go wrong with a rancher. You can't even compare the build quality between a Chinese saw and a husky, Stihl or echo, they are on completely different levels.
Well… there goes the neighborhood DIY homeowners see this they’ll never hire anyone again …they can’t afford it anyway “barefoot” On line accounting degree here I come!! That’ll give my 620 a run for its money. I bet it’s lighter too.
