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Full Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ku1ykhGP764.html Here's where Felix talks about it in details on stream: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YdVS9ooYgS8.html
@@jerome1lm he has the resource, but it's not worth it. Because even if he wins that one case, there will be other companies waiting to do the same thing, exploiting the same system. The problem is RU-vid ignorance, they turn a blind eye to these copyright issues, letting all these companies ruining the experience for everybody
It’s cause he said the Nword and is no longer the quintessential poster child of RU-vid so they could give a shit less rn about him cause RU-vid is a heartless shitty mega corp
a lot of artists who release their songs for free, even beats that get used by popular artists then get copyrighted so if you use the same beats or tune you'll get striked, this is a serious problem because I think for a while a lot of the minecraft soundtracks were copyrighted by a rapper who used the tunes in his song and abused the system, this isn't similar to that but if your music is open or free use, someone can claim it for you and thus apply a copyright to every other subsequent use of the song be it prior to the copyright and after, its a horrible thing because it happens to other media as well Pictures that were released for free get reuploaded to Stock photo network storages and then get copyrighted from there, if they spot you using those images they will instead cause legal troubles from those stock photo groups even if in public domain, not sure if it still happens but watch out for that sort of stuff; it gets finnicky
Well technically if no one Claim it someone can just claim, case like this happen before and the ppl who claims it almost always won the court
2 года назад
@@lexithesexy5843 surely it can be said in this particular case can be said that it had been made as public domain, right? There are bound to be witnesses.
We need everyone to know about this so RU-vid can actually take action instead of sitting around like idiots. If everyone knows, then pressure will be applied onto youtube forcing them to take action
We keep being informed of shady shit that youtube does... and then we forget about it. People just move on cause change takes too long, and creators still need to create. RU-vid as a company are AWARE that they can just get away with anything. Gonna turn into an EA Games if they haven't already.
Really hoping he will and make a big thing out of it, he has tons of cash and could power through all the litigation and at the end, when he wins, make another lawsuit for this scummy company to pay his legal fees.
@@Nightsaberban I'm pretty sure you have the right to sue for fraud, which is what this 3rd party is doing, regardless of where you are in the world. RU-vid should know better, but their hands are tied by the DMCA.
Legally, they can’t do that. He would fight it in court, because those things are masterpieces, and that company is going to try to sue him when they hit a tough spot.
The main problem is how much of a headache this causes for pewds. Despite the fact that THE copywriter holder uploaded to THEIR OWN channel a company can come in and ABUSE RU-vid’s copyright claim system. When a company claims a video or music, the channel owner has 30 days to appeal it, the company then has 30 days to deny and accept that appeal, then the channel owner gets 30 more days to appeal it again to the same company with the possibility of getting a strike from RU-vid which disables a bunch of features and possibly resulting in a band for the channel. And finally the company gets to wait 30 more days before finally rejecting or accepting the appeal, normally at this point they accept it unless they wanna lawyer up. This just becomes a massive time sink as the company can sit on the response for 60+ days, while pewds would deal with the headache of sending in an appeal every 30 days and not getting to touch the ad-sense rev from that video for 60+ days. most of this info comes from “totallynotmark” as he’s currently going through something similar in regards to copyright infringement and the abuse of RU-vid’s system.
Not to mention this same headache applies to many other creators that would like to remix or even use the song within current copyright law, and those people won’t have all the resources and knowledge that pewds has to fight back against these companies and probably get bullied out of creating on this platform AND will think it was pewds doing it.
Your honor you cant let people steal other peoples music and when they use it the artist loses money dont let this thief vet awah with this judge - but hes him the maker
@@notinusesoon4975 or the higher ups all get fired and replaced. Either way, it needs to only affect the pigs up top so RU-vid can have a complete remodel. But still sue the hell out of them
@@Vincisomething this has 0 to do with RU-vid and is based on the US copyright system. RU-vid was indeed about to get burned down by the music & film industry and was forced to implement the system. Which is not RU-vid judging copyright, but them saying "take it to court"
Exactly. I produce music and even though I am not famous or remotely popular, even I have gotten my music copyright claimed. It’s so fucking irritating. It just doesn’t only affect the bigger RU-vidrs, but this shit really hurts the little guy. Fuck RU-vid for this bullshit they make it so easy for people to take advantage of their shitty system.
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How can someone just claim music “on behalf of” someone else if they are not with that company. So weird. Hope pewds knocks that company down a peg for trying some scummy shit.
I’m glad RU-vid is putting in some real effort and fixing the real issues like removing the dislike button instead of whatever “false copyright claims” is supposed to mean. Good job
@@liuzhaoqi2003can't change the law but RU-vid cannot fix a problem where Felix will get claimed because he uses the music he himself made and produced? Yeah sounds like RU-vid to me 😂
@@liuzhaoqi2003 I don’t think it’s the law which says that a video becomes stolen property and eligible for a copyright claim just because there were 2 seconds of a song being played in the background or because Pewds sung a scuffed version of Despacito. It’s called exploiting and easy to use mechanic which RU-vid just straight up ignores or refuses to address. The current system of how copyright claims works on RU-vid is that it makes actively difficult for RU-vidrs to fight any claim. Pyrocynical recently made a 7 hour long review of a show called “Utopia” but it was then copyright claimed by a company because it had a few seconds of music in it.
@@eateroftoast4665 more like *capitalism music intensifies* only capitalists would privatized a music for their personal profit, it's the exact opposite of communism.
There’s a timeline where pewdiepie takes this to court and it becomes one of those law defining court cases that changes copyright law for everyone for the better in a new digital age
@@methuselah8885 That's not what this is about. This is about how the Internet was never in the mind of those who made copyright, which is decades and decades old at this point. Not only do the laws need reformed, but the way RU-vid handles it is EXTREMELY poorly planned. Literally the point of this video was that a video on his channel, of a song he made, was copyright claimed by a company that doesn't own it, on "his behalf." That should never be able to happen.
*Pewdiepie needs to get RU-vid to correct this ASAP.* This doesn’t just effect him, it effects small creators (artists and people reacting to, using, and remixing these free songs) too who don’t have the power to make change with RU-vid!
@@Azgorth02 Maybe this fraudulent type of business practice is a risk worth taking for these predatory companies, since they'd probably have hardly any legal pushback. The majority of us can't afford to fight back, right?
Felix is probably the few people rich enough to be able to sue RU-vid. Probably should to set a precedent and make future cases against RU-vid easier to get their fucking copyright system fixed. They won't fix it until they start losing money.
@@kristofkoszorus2090 A lot of people like to throw that name shrodinger to anything that has to deal with paradoxes. However, it was a joke so let them be.
@Ban001 yh cus you just find new artists on Spotify... how he advertise and compete like ksi without yt or tik...... also a real musician would prollyreccomend distrokid
@@miztatone918 and when they run everyone off and make it difficult and start getting backlash, or worse, people do illegal things and hurt RU-vid and no one cares It’ll be a game changer
I do hope Pewds or some other big content creator does launch some kind of lawsuit. It may begin setting a legal precedent for this shit. Sad to say though that the lawsuit would be kinda like falling on the sword for the content creator... Those suits are expensive and frustratingly tedious.
I respect PewDiePie for this, the copyright thing is annoying, especially for animatiors since you can't animate even the smallest portion of a song without getting copyrighted
You can't blame the copyright thing and say it's wrong, some artists used copyright to secure they arts as a intellectual property so people can enjoy it and shouldn't steal it. The problem is in youtube copyright protocol or system can be abused by irresponsible parties without the real artist known, even can detrimental to the real artist it self. So that's the real annoying.
I know right, I make a new RU-vid vid and it got copyrighted even tho I gave credit to the people who created the TikTok’s and I’m confused by what music or sound got me copyrighted :/
Perfect example of how RU-vid is only bending more and more to the whims of big companies. Anyone else feel like there’s no more “You” in “RU-vid”??? Edit: hate to be the cringe guy who edits his comment, but it’s not for the likes. Loyal_Knight came up with a good response to music claims in the replies, y’all need to see it. Glad to see that thousands of you stand with me. Re-edited: apparently Loyal_Knight decided to disappear from the reply section because I can’t find their reply any more, but the fact that I got 7.7K likes for a simple yet widespread criticism really says something about how RU-vid is running their platform.
@@awsomesaucefilms18 Supposedly there are multiple new platforms being developed right now & will be launching over the next few years. I've heard they claim to rival YT, Twitter, & FB with similar concepts & even monetization opportunities. Idk how much faith we can actually put in that, but at least there are people out there working on competition. Hopefully someone steps up because big tech monopolies have gotten out of control.
It’s like when Jschlatt made a clips channel named Schlagg and RU-vid demonitised the channel because they thought Schlatt didn’t own it. Schlatt then made a video on the channel with his face on camera saying he owns the channel and RU-vid denied it saying that “they needed more evidence.”
I use a ton of 3rd party stuff. Claims are normal and accepted for me. But I recently got claims apparently made by me, against my main own main channel lol. RU-vid is weird.
@@chichennn if you want better explanation, here "Its like when someone borrow your story book, and then when you wanted your book back, they didn't allow you to 'borrow' your book because they think its theirs now or maybe they forgot its your book and gives to other people" There You understand now? I'll explain you if you still dont understand
@@frakus3068 oh they care. and he probably can't just walk away from youtube because he was paid by youtube to exclusively put his content on youtube only, but I don't know how long that deal last
I think it’s different for her because she has a record label, meaning they actually do own her music and she signed a contract stating so. In pewdiepies case he doesn’t have a record label so he does actually own all rights to it and free use would be his own choice to make.
It is, you cannot represent someone like that for a copyright claim. Even a lawyer, who can file claims for you, would not be the named party of a copyright claim. It would never say "claimed by lawyer on behalf of company/person", only "claimed by company/person" That said "strong case" is debatable- the damages need quantified before we can say that. Without damages, there is no case.
Stefaniya Potokina yea just look up “Metallica twitch” or something I don’t really listen to them much so you’ll know more about their history but apparently it goes all the way back to their fight with Napster and that’s biting them in the ass today And just proves how dumb the copyright system is if the creators of a platform can’t hire the creators of the music to play on their platform without having to mute it because they’re sacred they’re going to get taken down by themselves or the creators playing their own music
Unfortunately that's already the case. In some countries if the government wants to develop on an area of land, they offer the owners BASE cost. If the owners refuse they will just take the land anyway.
Pewds you gotta sue them man You cant let them get away with this shit they have done to you I know its pain in the ass to see a lawyer, file to court , take a lot of time, etc ...but its better than letting those scumbags do whatever they want There should be a red line to draw and no one dares to cross it Those scumbags crossed it and should be punished for it
@@proxyhx2075 It's not the company, it's the fake PewDiePie SounCloud profile. Repost Network just auto uploads the music to RU-vid and just claims all music from that profile. Pewds just has to sue the person behind that SoundCloud profile.
Yes he can and he would probably win. But why would he go to court? What’s he going to win like 5k? Not even worth the time to consider for someone like him. Court isn’t about whether you can win it’s about whether it’s worth winning.
@@kg0311 Hes literally fucked up one time 😂😂 he went threw 1 year where peoole laid him under fire just because he was blowing uo felix has literally been onenof the best youtubers especially for his fans . Youre just trying to "stick out" and be "woke"
Its literally a goldmine for the companies in youtube Even the ksi and pewdiepie's collab was claimed bcoz of pewds played his alphorn and it didnt even matched to the music that it got claimed from ffs
Worst part is, there’s no laws against a company claiming photos, songs, or videos in public domain. I remember hearing about a trial involving gettyimages and a random photographer. This random photographer donated 100,000+ pictures to The Library Of Congress to make them public domain for all to use as a gift. Gettyimages found 18,000 of her photos, claimed them as their own, and flagged her for her own photos as a copyright violation. She then sued them in court for $1B and lost because those images were public domain and free to claim by anyone. Apparently its kinda like how anyone can claim/publish pd literature like Shakespear or Dickens. If Shakespeare or dickens tried to copy exactly the penguin publishing house version of their works because they like the covers, penguin would sue them and win too, despite not having a product to publish without the original creator. It’s so backwards and fucked up. Edit: her name was Carol Highsmith.
We don't do that shit in my country and if it was made by you, then it's yours. And I can't understand those shitty rules on RU-vid which is based only on USA laws. Like... Yeah, I use your platform, but man... I don't live with your laws... The same goes for using certain words to not insult some people. It's not our problem, why other countries need to be involved?
2 года назад
Imagine if it became illegal to claim ownership over public domain.
But that's so fucking weird, because in the first place, it's supposed to be of public domain right? So, they shouldn't be able to take down an image that is public in the first place.
It’s illegal to claim from public domain. You need to purchase that right from the actual owner/creator before it is released in order to legally claim it. It’s still illegal to claim it as your own even if you own something someone else has made in order to sell it for profit. That undergoes fraud and is pretty much illegal everywhere in the world.
I know he probably doesn't care enough to fight it for himself, but it would really help smaller creators if he fought them and showed youtube that fix this bullshit for real!
@@RusticRonnie que? Don’t understand the latter half of the statement but pewds may have the money but that doesn’t mean he has to do it. Also it could cost hundreds of thousands if not millions.
I mean it’s actually pretty short sighted to not claim your own music, to protect the people you want it for. Like putting some genius invention out in the world like toilet paper for everyone. But since no one owns the idea. It’s free real estate, for someone without morals to take it over.
Pewdiepie: "Use this free music as you please" Company: "You will be claimed if you use Pewdipie's music" Pewdipie: "Wait, that's not what I want" Company: "Hush child, I'm speaking for you"
Pewds pls sue them. A Lot of people dont have the money to actually get justice in cases of this, pls dont let them get away with it , and maybe people who used and uploaded that song get in trouble
Showing them won't do anything first off they give you dragged out forever for one person decides to give up and it's not like he has more money than they do and even then you're still not guaranteed anything which will probably end up doing if they did anything with cheaper to settle out of court with the NDA and the end of it and never hear anything about it. Can you hear people saying protest and boycott but that ain't going to do nothing either cuz all the big top guys if they want to start doing that soon as they start you show me off to take their place just as quick as they got started. Coming on here and throwing a fit about it it's not going to do anything but cause more drama with the reach in the fan base he has you really shouldn't be on your complaint about that you do something in the private but getting on here at this kind of makes it look childish it's like you earn plenty of money you do very well compared to a lot of people and so many people if they had the chance to be where he's at you know it's all they're not going to muddy the water because it only takes one stupid statement about something that basically be ignored dropped by everybody canceled cuz you know we live in a cancel culture now. Now if it was a struggling RU-vidr who did depend on most of the money that he made on here or even just a struggling RU-vidr who can earn a little bit on the side to help pay their normal bills to make life easier for themselves I can understand them complaining about it like I said he's not going to the poor house over this this big as he is honestly keep it to himself.
Theres nothing to sue for. All that happened was that pewdiepie’s SoundCloud account was hijacked and the hacker claimed his music on his behalf. Repost Network is Soundcloud’s distribution service.
The same thing happened to Npesta. Someone took Sakupen Hell Yes remix by Mrjazzman and claimed many of his videos saying that mrjazzman copyrighted the song even the he never did and the song was free to use.
Pewds: You can use it my man. You have my full permission. *Few years later* Pewds: What do you mean I can't use my own song? RU-vid is such a fun place.
not true at all. That company now owns Bitch Lasagna. Same thing that happened with photographer Carol Highsmith with Getty Images, where she was sued for posting her owned photograph which she had donated to the public domain. Because it was public, you can make it your own, and Getty Images did exactly that
@@brycechryson5686 Did PewDiePie formally donate his songs to the public domain? I don't know the details of that process, but I doubt he did. As the author of the work, he still reserves ownership over the audio recordings themselves.
I don’t watch pewdiepie, I’m not his target audience and he’s not my form of entertainment, but I will give him respect for this. Some artists want people to enjoy a piece of their art for free, to change it to their liking, to use it as the foundation for their own great creation. It also helps to lead buyers to other works that they can pay for and have possession over that piece of art. Someone else coming through and placing copyright claims on your behalf, on art you allow others to use freely, seems like a Karen^2 thing to do.
@@casshernsins8333 Wait, do the people shutting down the videos get any monetary gain? Doing this ‘on behalf’ of pewdiepie is probably just a layer of plausible deniability, but it would hold in court. If they were paid for their efforts, however…
@@nicholashernandez4611 I don't understand how that would hold in court? They are lying, so they would definitely lose. Did I misunderstand your comment?
Not only is this company taking the money from all the views in the music video but thanks to the fact that they copyrighted it they get the money from every single video in the world with the music in it