My dad's tractors are both gear driven. I have HST+. There is a big difference in the ability between them when it comes to fine control. I'm able to control my movement easier than he can with the gear driven. I can also adjust to things easier with it. Now his is more suited for working in the field, but cruise control on mine helps minimize the advantage.
When I called WM to order the WG24 by phone, I was immediately asked if I had a hydrostatic transmission tractor (which I do) So that part of the conversation ended there. I’d have to assume, based on that, that WM highly recommends the grinder be used with a hydrostatic. I also have a clutch operated shuttle shift tractor. I can’t imagine the trouble it would be to constantly feather the clutch. Not to mention that it would wear a clutch out in short order. IMO, a hydrostatic transmission is a must for this implement.
I can't help but to comment Hank. I have this stump grinder. And it rotates clockwise, so it works best, without jumping around all over the place, by starting on the right side (as you look at the stump from sitting in the tractor's seat), BY FAR. I don't know if I've described this very well or not, but I hope I did. But read page 30 of the owner's manual. It clearly states to start on the right side of the stump.
Great video 👍 Hydrostatic trans is nice for beginners smooth easy driving, stump grinding and loader work fast tight mowing etc.. The Gear drive transmission has more power to the ground by far more PTO power less heat build up and no need for cruise control. So in short each transmission has pluses and minuses I say get both of possible you will be happy forever lol. Thanks for sharing.
@@HamiltonvilleFarm , I have considered getting one of these and my tractor is old school clutch and gear ... I thought I would try to put y bucket down and tilt it back and fort to move the tractor + grinder a head .. Give that a try . Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Or use a winch. My kubota 5 cylinder tractor has a snail gear that's even lower than creeper gears for rototilling with shuttle. I'm curious how. Well this would work. I think a winch would work well in a way.
This shows me why I wouldn't buy this product for my manual trans tractor and it ended up exactly as I thought it would. I think renting or buying one of those 15hp gas powered grinders makes more sense for manual trans tractor owners.
Its a great stump grinder. You really do need a hydro for it. You can grind the stump below grade. I went through and did a couple dozen of them on my property right after I got it. I had five in the middle of some garden beds. They were only about 5 or six inches but I was able to remove them without destroying everything then replant over top. One thing to note is you can probably get away with a gear tractor for soft woods but hardwoods you really have to take slow.
enjoyed it. Would be difficult to grind a hardwood stump with a gear drive tractor. Sometimes I can barely move forward at all on something like a Black Walnut!
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Nice video but one thing I will throw out there is on the gear drive tractor if you had something with a Creeper Gear range and a power shuttle you could do it close to what a Hydro would but a hydro is a good idea cause its going to save on your clutch on a standard gear drive setup. I have done similar testing on larger scale with forestry mulchers on CVT vs Gear trans and found that the CVT tractors will do better in a creeping type job but you tend to give up a bit of power with the CVT trans where as the Gear does not loose as much power in the transfer. But for eases of use we use the CVT trans lol
Good stuff Hank, Gina, and Randal. My tractor is a hydrostatic. My kubota before that was Shuttle Shift. I prefer the Shuttle Geared transmission. Thanks buddy.
Thanks for this video, guys. I've been trying to figure out if one of these grinders would work well on my Ford 871. The selecto-speed transmission's first gear claims 1.1 mph at 540 pto speed. I don't know if that's too fast to grind a stump or not. No clutch to slip, just a "inching pedal". Watching your comparison video here, gives me a good idea of what I'd be up against, though. Thanks again.
I have two kioti tractors a 40 and 60 both hyrostatic, I am looking for stump grinder attachment, I see this video is 3 years old do you still recommend this one or is there a newer module out since than? Thanks in advance great video
Great video Hank! I didnt know yours was gear drive like mine. I have a need for a stump grinder, what is your opinion if its worth it or not. I have seen some that use hydrolics to swing side to side but im sure they cost more.
How many stumps do you have? I would see if you could rent one if you don't have that many. There really was a night and day difference in the gear drive vs HST
I looked at the boom type (such as a woods model) and then these woodland mills before I bought one. Even though I found this one used, I like this style better. The boom style still requires the tractor to be moved, as well as the additional up/down and left/right controls. I feel that this style grinder is more compact, saves room, and.allows.you to more efficiently work.
Another great video Hank. I have a HST so I could really use one of those around here. Our problem is all of the rocks. Merry Christmas to you, Gina, and Brandell.
I want to purchase one of these, but after reading comments it seems hst transmission is really the only thing it will work with and I have a gear driven power shuttle transmission 40 horsepower mahindra I’m kinda disappointed
I'm poking around in the dark a little bit here but isn't there some consideration with a hydrostatic about doing a lot of this type of work causing wear and possible higher maintenance or premature failure of the hydrostatic transmission?
I've heard people say that about the vibration as well. I don't really know. But that probably is a consideration if you plan on doing commercial work with it. Thanks for the comment 👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm I hadn't considered vibration that's interesting but I think it had more to do with changing the flow of oil all the time through the hydro having never owned one I'm not really sure
@@HamiltonvilleFarm now that I'm thinking about it it has something to do with heat. hydrostats need to have a lot of oil flowing through them under heavy workloads and if you operate in a certain way ie pedals too high or wrong gear? not sure, there is reduced oil flow and thus higher Heat.
Does your mahindra have a creeper gear? That might help if it does. I know my tractor wouldn’t do good with it cause it only has a 6 speed transmission so it’s much to high geared. I’ve operated a tractor that has a creeper gear option just never have had to use it so I don’t know how much slower it is compared to normal.
I was in 1 low. Which is pretty low, but still popping the clutch is my problem when it comes to stump grinding. Maybe if I started further out and had a chance to "smooth out" after the tractor is in motion it would have been better👍🤷🏻♂️
