Pulled by Police Again! 

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Got no choice if you're driving.

He means you don't have to physically hand it to them. Legally, you just have to show it.

@@lloydclevely9956 He wasn't driving.

@@TheHovel yh, my bad. Should've watched the whole vid before commenting. There is no way I'd have handed ID over being a passenger

@@lloydclevely9956 Absolutely not.

It's not, it's a very old lie. The classic lies of the police are: "We're looking for someone who looks like you" or "We're investigating a crime and the suspect looks like you". This gets you into "oh no, I'm innocent!" mode psychologically and your guard is down. The other, when they want to search you unlawfully (probably because you are black or have short hair or tattoos) is the vague "there have been burglaries in the area". In general, the police invent lies to create "grounds" and have for years, it's partly why they aren't trusted. Regardless of what they say, you never tell them anything until you are arrested and at the police station. That applies even if they pretend that you resemble a mass child killer they're looking for.

Sorry but your wrong there, a police officer actually involved in stopping traffic can ask for us of all occupants even passers by , and it is obligated that you provide it

@@shaundixon3645 I'm sorry that is incorrect, only the driver is legally obligated to provide nae and date if birth. Under section 165 of the Road Traffic Act.

The police would have a lie for that, probably either "yes" or "we don't have a description". There is no point asking them anything, as they are liars. You never give your details if you are a passenger, no matter what they tell you or what they *pretend* they suspect. You are under no obligation legally until you are under arrest AND at a police station. This was a very amateur auditing error, but it was balanced by the sensible decision to record the interaction.

@@lindsaydudden1174 They require you to show your driving license under the road traffic act, none of this was mentioned here. He just asked for ID, you dont have to show your id unless you have commited, about to or in the process of committing a crime.

@@shaundixon3645 Nearly all correct, yes under the road traffic act the driver has to show id, but not passengers, unless a crime has been commited. As for passers by, they cannot ask for your id, again, unless you have commited a crime, they can ask, but your under no obligation to give over your id.

Why do you think they’re targeting this car then? They’ve never targeted my car or anybody’s car that I’ve ever known so why this car? If he’s in the habit of carrying wanted folks then I would advise him to stop. If this is just an isolated incident then it’s just an isolated incident and it’s no big deal but if it’s more than that then why?

​@@wjrs5 Police can put a marker on ANY car they choose, if you upset one of them then they put a marker on your car so you are regularly stopped by different officers to make your life harder because you may have hurt their feelings once upon a time.

@@wjrs5 Are you really so naive?

@@robertmawby3021 naive about what, Robbie? Can you expand a little bit?

@@thunderfoot5167 so you’re saying that ANY copper can put a marker on ANY car. Wouldn’t that lead to millions of cars getting marked? Couldn’t that lead to huge traffic jams? Why haven’t you informed the media of this as it sounds like a solution to our traffic problems?

But why? Maybe he’s a gang leader. I don’t know, do you? Is he a friend of yours.

Get a life

Driver doesn't have to show id, because Required is synonomous with Request. You can deny the request, but trouble is these low IQ specimens will smash your car up because they never got their way. Remember, everything is a choice.

@@leavemyrightsalone Sorry, but the driver does. If you are driving a vehicle in the UK, the Police can require to see your licence, insurance, and MOT certificate. The law is that you HAVE to show your driving licence (which is ID) but the Police will take no action if you can show ID and they can allow you to provide the licence at a station at a later date.

@@scousiered3124 REQUIRE!!! 164 Power of constables to require production of driving licence and in certain cases statement of date of birth. So lets break down this ACT which is a rule, NOT a LAW. Constable? English I (name) ...of (police force)... do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the King in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law. LAW? So law is a rule. rule noun uk rule noun (INSTRUCTION) Add to word list [ usually plural ] an accepted principle or instruction that states the way things are or should be done, and tells you what you are allowed or are not allowed to do principle??? noun!!! Robert peel's policing principles. 5. The police seek and preserve public favour, not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to the law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws; by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of society without regard to their race or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour; and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life. Independence of policy!! Policy: A set of ideas or a plan of what to do in particular situations that has been agreed to officially by a group of people, a business organization, a government, or a political party So when driving and the police constable asks for a driving license and is a requirment as required - required adjective [ before noun ] uk necessary according to the rules or for a particular purpose The rules? or law? law noun uk law noun (RULE) Add to word list A rule, usually made by a government, that is used to order the way in which a society behaves ORDER?? order noun uk order noun (REQUEST) a request to make, supply, or deliver food or goods order noun (INSTRUCTION) [ often plural ] something that someone tells you you must do must? If you tell someone else that they must do something pleasant, you are emphasizing that you think it is a good idea to do that: Oh so it is a good idea to show a drivers license? if you don't show a driver's license, the police going to smash your windows in and arrest you for a non crime of not showing a driver's licence when there is no law that says one has to show a licence? Positive Law. That part of law which consists of rules imposed by a sovereign on his subjects : law proper as opposed to moral law, and so on (Austin). See Law. So the police are under an OATH to serve the kings Subjects, yet the I don't see the king there, and I don't see any orders from the king except an ACT - act noun (LAW) law specialized a law or formal decision made by a parliament or other group of people who make the laws for their country So who wants to see my licence again and for what reason ? so where is the authority for the constable to do this? Just asking someone to do something because it is written down in an act doesn't constitute this has to happen. It is the equivalent of me asking you for £1000 and you paying up, Would you? So as you can see require is synonymous with request making it a request by the constable, and the Driver having an option to say yes or no! I showed you the English definitions of the words used. Now to show you the legal defintion to simplfy all this. MUST. This word, like the word "shall," is primarily of mandatory effect; State ex rel. McCabe v. District Court of Third Judicial Dist. in and for Deer Lodge County, 106 Mont. 272, 76 P.2d 634, 1171 MUSTER 637; and in that sense is used in antithesis to "may" This is black's law dictionary because legal is used worldwide in defacto courts. By the way all defacto courts are illegal in England according to the Bill of rights 1689. So again we see choice. The kings used dictatorship to rule the plebs and slaves, the constitution which is judaism when everyone swears an oath to the king or queen gives us choice, but don't tell the plebs how the words and defintions are used, they might lose control, why they use low iq to join the police because they're illiterate. This is for your eddification.

@@scousiered3124 legislation noun uk a law or set of laws suggested by a government and made official by a parliament A set of nouns which are things. legislation noun LAW uk rules or laws relating to a particular activity that are made by a government Rules or laws? which is it??? noun uk A word that refers to a person, place, thing, event, substance, or quality Person and persons are the same. Bible james 2:9 2:9 But if all of you have respect to persons, all of you commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. sin verb uk sin verb [I] (MORALS) to break a religious or moral law If I showed my driver's licence I would be breaking a religious or moral law? Law. A law is an obligatory rule of conduct. obligation noun uk the fact that you are obliged to do something oblige verb uk LAW to force someone to do something, or to make it necessary for someone to do something Force??? are we living in a dictatorship then? The king and queens had their powers removed via the constituion, so what makes the constable have so much power? aaahhhhh you mean we have to bow to their EGO and POWER they don't have; or they lose their sh** on you for not bowing to them. Mind you rishi sunak did go around in what can only be described as a motocade almost as a dictator. Get it yet??? Did Britain go through a world war 2 to supposedly end a dictatorship? Oh Britain lost that war big time, can you tell me why?

@@leavemyrightsalone LLB, 2x LLM, BVC = The seven years of law school that mean I earn £100k+ on a four day week. I will give this as general guidance, and not specific legal advice, for which I charge: You must, under UK law, produce your driving licence when requested by a Police officer, when in charge of a motor vehicle. That is why people who don't are charged and found guilty of the offence. If you think that is wrong, you may have just undermined the entire British legal system and you might earn more from one day's work than I earn in four. And think of all those convictions you could overturn.....

They won't remove it however much you spend. Even if they pretend they have. The police don't operate within the law.

@@_-_-_-6670 They will if you get a court order.. 😉 You can tell they have removed it if you interact with any other government agency. What people don’t understand is, all government agencies I.e. Home office, HMRC, Customs, DBS checks etc all have READ access to PNC and parts of PND(police intelligence database or lies about you.. ) I was like the passenger use to hand over my details to police for NO REASON.. until I interacted with a government agency to my horror the police added my details to their intelligence database full of lies.. 😳 Took 3-4yrs with threat of law suit before they decided to remove it, then I checked with the government agency they confirmed it was gone. Yes, I agree with you.. the police cannot be trusted at all… they all criminals and pathological liars.

i had an hour stand off with the south wales police for not giving id as a passenger. 4 cars were sent out and numerous officers all acting threatening manner and saying they were going to impound car...i caved in as didnt want my mate to get more hassle. when i gave name they were well p1ssed as no warrants or anything on me. threatend wasting police time then, proper nob heads south wales police.

Are you American?

@@esseel7896 I am not surprised but they need to tell you under what law you are obliged to give your details-chances are they didn't have one! 👍

@@bobikdylan Welcome to RU-vid. Are you Czech?

PS I assumed it's Wales UK not NY👍

Use another car😮😮😮

Agreed, and as a licensed auditor of the crown, you are entitled to special privileges against the rules in the Road Traffic Act.

You talk crap Mr Barnes

when you film their illegal behavior they obviously don't like it and they'll use any means to piss you off. dirty corrupt shitbags.

Accountability

With the passion of christ being dragged along with the cross on his back.

Of course they do, they hate anyone who shows them up for what they are.

@FIEND PHOTO Exactly, they used one of the oldest tricks in the book to get his details.

*Exactly the passenger is clearly a woman so who are they looking for ? A man or a woman? Because regardless of who they don't need ID from both*

You did, and it is a ploy for them to get details

@@AJAudits Dirty pigs! 👿

Section 163 ?

In a vehicle is different from walking down the street. You're obliged to give details.

​@@leathleyg5995 the passenger isn't.

@@richardjones8699 True....

Unfortunately they have. This is the UK.

@@seanmc1351 Yes driver plus passengers. It's wrong, but that's the law. Check the Road Traffic Act.

@@stuartb4525 There's no provision in the Road Traffic Act that requires a passenger to identify themselves, except when supervising a learner driver.

@@seanmc1351 Usually, the passenger is not required to ID. However, the police used the excuse there was a potential wanted person in the vehicle. That way, you have to ID or get arrested until they can further investigate if the passenger is the wanted person or not. It's just a sneaky way to get everyone's ID's!!!

@@seanmc1351 Not all disabilities can be seen.

That is being done next week when I am back home.

I did ask and they wouldn’t say. Left to go on my way.

@@AJAudits I thought it strange they were asking for a passenger to identify.

Passenger didn’t need to ID could have gone down to station which they would have avoided and not showing us the full video doesn’t make for an audit considering you failed it by giving up your right. Rice vs Connelly 1966

@@AJAudits Should have as a passenger just covered your driver licence number and showed your name and photo refusing as a passenger to hand ID over. If it was legit then they would have known it was not their supposed wanted person.

@@axiomcurbcommunity I was thinking the same thing, but I aware that this auditor is fairly new and he needs to read up on relevant sections of the road traffic act.

Agreed. There is nothing in the Road Traffic Act about identifying yourself as a licensed driver, or indeed to prove you are the keeper of the car. Laws don’t apply to licensed auditors of the crown.

Correct, they'll be on file now. The next time they harass that vehicle, they'll know who's in it from the descriptions. If the police don't have grounds to do something, they *invent* the "grounds".

What the hell happened in the end,why cut it off,I hate that.

Yes, it's one of their many lies. They will know that people "sing like a bird" if you tell them a lie such as "we suspect you of xxx" or "you look like a wanted person". It's a nasty thing to do, to make an innocent person *think* they are under suspicion, but the police have a lot of nasty people in their ranks who will say anything to get the "result" they want. In this case, it was getting "intelligence" on everyone they think is auditing them, in other words, making them accountable in any way.

I like that suggestion!

yeah when we think about it These type of people who are involved in cross contamination situations in there work and never seem to be clean They always have written pen information on the back of there hands and there cars and vans are never clean inside .Who knows ? Maybe the police are responsible for Covid contamination ?

They don't. The police know that, so use a psychological trick of making the person *think* they are wanted/under suspicion (they aren't of course, it's a lie). This sends the person into "defence mode" and they sing like birds. They wouldn't get my details even if they said "a mass child killer has escaped from prison and we think it's you", but then I know their tricks. 🙄