I have watched some of the channels where the people posting them interrupting is so annoying. I have unsubscribed from every one of those channels. Including Tommy V because he puts those confusing titles across the screen in two different colours.
@@patriciaevans5906 I'm a lawyer from a long way back. I don't need explanations but this is a good channel to watch because the comments the wolf makes are helpful. As you say, there are so many that want to comment (before, during and after.) Some tell you, in advance, what's happening. People are posting their bulldogs in the middle of the screen, etc. The absolute worst is a video that breaks away to someone who is selling something.
Why on earth would Mr. Clay get an attitude in Judge Simpson's courtroom? First, he does not put up with it and will lay down the law. Second, there appeared to be at least a dozen deputies/police officers in the courtroom. There simply won't be any trouble in there. This ain't Vegas. Judge Simpson runs a tight ship.
I think you're giving the defendant way too much credit. Your question -- why would he get an attitude when nothing good will come of it -- assumes that Mr. Clay read the room, weighed the pros and cons of copping an attitude, determined and analyzed the likely outcome of such behavior ... and yet still made a conscious decision to mouth off. I do not know Mr. Clay but I'm going to guess that deductive reasoning and sound decision-making skills are not his strong suit.
He clearly didn't understand what was happening lol this could be a mistral meaning he would be rearrested and charged and have to start all over again which would mean more jailtime if he didn't cone up with the bond. All he saw was more jailtime because of the adjournment instead of understanding his lawyer is working her ass off to get this done properly for his sake. He's a bully, but he's also an idiot who simply doesn't have deductive reasoning skills or emotional self-control. Psychologically speaking, his mental development is stuck at 12 years old.
@@katherineduke3232, for sure. It was sad in way, but I can't feel sorry for him because, as you said, he is a bully. He talked his way into more problems, especially with Judge Simpson. I've seen Judge Simpson be an incredibly compassionate person, but don't cross him. And you definately know you've crossed him when he says, "Mr. Allen..."
Prior to coronavirus this guy would never have been allowed in that courtroom with his face covered. I fully understand what the defense attorney was objecting to, but at the same time allowing defendants to cover their faces in court needs to be stopped. The defense is clearly exploiting the disabilities, mental and physical of this witness. Prosecution needs to step it up because this guy is guilty.
Besides the virus for which many people still choose to wear a mask, there are other viruses that would pose a risk to an obese person like this defendant. Namely, the flu. At this point in history, it's probably reasonable to let him have the mask, so he can't claim that he is being put in harm's way by being being physically present in court. Sometimes things that might not make a lot of sense to the rest of us are allowed to happen because it gives criminals less of an ability to complain after the fact.
Defendant's names are already known, and announced out loud in the court proceedings, so anybody who might be watching and knows them personally, knows who they are with or without a mask. So it doesn't provide much, if any, level of anonymity. What it DOES do is prevent him from complaining about being put at risk for an infection. Always a good idea to make it harder for these criminals to find things to complain about. So just let him wear the mask.
@@TakenTook I have to stop reading this stuff because I did this work & I can't take moronic comments. Guilty until proven innocent. Harsh posters here can't think of any other reasons that someone would be forced to wear a mask. Do you want them to spread tuberculosis? etc. Do you want to take their oxygen away? There are many more reasons but he's guilty so no big deal, right?
Judge Simpson won't take any mess from anybody and his going off like he did will only hurt his chances of leniency just because he got told what he wasn't trying to hear!!! Getting an attitude will only add a lot more to his issues!!! I don't know why a lot of people don't get that!!!
The dude on the stand scraped the _ out of his fingers when he was sitting back down as the judge was coming in. Bet it was bleeding. Just an observation I thought you all should know lol
There should be NO masks permitted to be worn in a courtroom -- ESPECIALLY by a defendant. It has been made abundantly clear that the wearing of face masks prevent NOTHING except identification.
They do a great job of preventing seasonal influenza, and bird flu. We have human cases of bird flu in Michigan right now. Having said that I think it would be reasonable to ask him to remove his mask for 5 seconds and then replace the mask just for the witness to identify him
What's weird about the defendant was that everything pretty much went positively for him. He has an amazing defense attorney, the witness was confused and discredited, and she even protected his rights. So for him to just act that way in court was unreasonable and came right out of the blue.
A childish reaction that did just what the judge suggested it did... showed how he can fly off the handle even when things are going his way. (especially if he doesn't know it)
From watching so, so many of these cases, I've arrived at an even dimmer view of the criminal justice system **as a system.** The individuals typically range from good to exceptional, they're not the problem. You can be sure to get a fair trial in front of Judge Simpson, and I'm blown away by the effectiveness of the public defenders. However, the system is brutally failing the people it should be serving - the "Justice System" is not there to help the criminal get their life together. Nationally, over 80% of felony defendants in state courts cannot afford counsel and use a public defender. Crime seems intimately related to poverty. Most defendants are undereducated; many do not even have a high school diploma. They have no conception of what's going on in court and can't meaningfully contribute to their own defense despite being perfectly competent to stand trial. They associate the courts with punishment and that's it - they go to court, enter a plea (over 70% of cases end in pleas, and only about 10% go to trial), and face their punishment until their next visit to court. Probation is successfully completed less than 50% of the time nationwide due to onerous rules, and the requirement to pay for drug testing, monitoring devices, etc only deepens their poverty, making future crimes more likely. This defendant has no idea what happened in court that day. He was likely expecting his trial that day because no matter how many times they go to court they can't keep track of how many appearances there are for new charges. All he heard was that he's in jail for another few weeks and then they have to do this all over again. He thinks today was wasted. He has no idea that the case could feasibly be dismissed and that he should be overjoyed.
Not sure I'd say it came out of the blue. He probably has expectations that no one could identify him and a finding of no probable cause. I'm sure had been planning his immediate release. Now he has to sit in jail another two weeks, till the next witnesses are available. Not saying I'd do what he did but I'd definitely be frustrated, especially if I was in fact innocent... just saying
The D. A. did a lousy job of preparing the first witness. Obviously the witness is not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, and the D. A. would have noticed that if she had done her due diligence and interviewed the man.
You can tell a good lawyer when they mess up (asking the judge for something before he's called the case) and the judge just chuckles instead of raging.
FYI for everyone lambasting the lack of witness preparation in that first case - there are many reasons for this. Often times, witnesses and/or victims are regular people with hourly jobs living paycheck to paycheck, they will not/ do not want to take off half a day to do prep for a trial. Prosecutors and defense attorneys do what they cab on the phone and with video conferencing. Even so, often people do not have reliable internet and/or change phone numbers often. Just some info from someone in the criminal justice system for over a decade.
As an attorney I was called to the stand twice after practicing for many years. It was SCARY! I didn't belong up there! (In my mind.) It's amazing how that happens. Get me off this stand! I knew what the questions would be.
Simpson is a good natured, mild mannered, and calm judge. He will gently joke around with people when it is appropriate, and he gives them second and third chances in so many of these videos. So when he loses his temper, you know somebody has really taken things way too far.
Witnesses are people and are extremely difficult to control. We spend days prepping a complainant... it was his own case... and he ruined it within moments of taking the stand. There's only so much one could do.
He was walking away and far from the microphone at that point, so it wasn't really something any of us could hear, but clearly the judge could hear it.
There's a mic on the stand, but it only projects sound into the room; it's not getting picked up well by Zoom, which the judge has running on his bench. Listening to in-person proceedings in this courtroom through Zoom has always been bad. It's frustrating when you're not hearing everything.
It’s bull punky that defendant is allowed to cover his face like that and at the very least no defendant should be allowed to keep their face covered during a public identifying process.
I think the reason for the refusal of the defense to have the defendant remove his mask for identification purposes, in this case, is that the witness cannot ID him. Maybe they'll have the witness try to describe him? Anyway, the entire video was about problems with identifying the defendant from memory, if you missed it. At the moment the witness could just say "of yeah that's the guy" once the mask is removed
@@trninfan Now the Defense attorney made the decision? Trust me. If someone needed to identify the defendant the mask would come off long enough for that. Maybe the guy had covid? It was jail policy. Am I allowed to bring in a client on an oxygen tank? How about if their face just looks like a pulp because they were beaten in the jail. What if someone has hepatis or something else you pick up in jail, & it easily spreads. Accomodations are always made.
I don't get the complaints either. In other parts of the world, such as the Far East, people routinely wear masks in public just during cold and flu season in order to protect others in case they are sick, just as a matter of politeness. Which is why it was much easier for those societies to adapt during the pandemic. And that is not the only virus that would pose a risk to an obese defendant like this man. Plain old flu is a major risk, and always has been. Plus we actually have bird flu cases here in Michigan now.
Why didn't the DA prep that first witness by explaining hw should *only* speak when asked a question and then should answer the question and only the question?? Ffs the guy is so ignorant and he could easily cause these very serious charges to be dropped!
Try prepping a scared witness sometime. I practiced for 30 years & I had to take the stand twice. I couldn't believe how anxious and uncomfortable I was. And I knew all of the questions that would be asked.
This is a really interesting hearing relative to what normally gets posted on RU-vid. Nice choice. The defendant was of course unwise, to put it mildly, for reacting that way. However, it’s presumably because he genuinely believes in his innocence (this hearing gives some reason to believe that btw) and wants a speedy resolution. The judge was right to pull him up on it, did so without screaming or losing his own cool, and the defendant promptly apologized. A human moment of error, correction, and admittance.
Love Judge Simpson always but a thing the attorney did caused me o question “how professional does a lawyer look placing her chin in her hand at the podium?” I was an employee of an Attorney General’s Office in the USA and no judge would’ve allowed that. It’s far too casual and “relaxed” in a courtroom environment. ❤️🐈
Depends on the Judge. I practiced in front of one who wouldn't wear his robe and paced in front of the bench the entire time. But you are right. Any individual should show respect in any court. Simpson's courtroom can get a bit informal.
An obese person like him is at high risk from regular old flu, and a number of other communicable diseases besides the one that recently prompted many of us to wear masks in public. We also have confirmed **human** cases of bird flu here in Michigan currently. It is not only a matter of politeness to let people wear masks in public if they feel more comfortable doing so, but allowing a criminal suspect like this man to wear a mask also gives him one less thing to complain about later on. If he was not permitted the mask, he could claim that the court is putting his life at risk by making him be in a public place without the mask. Let's not give a jerk like this more reasons to complain. And his name is already being announced in the court proceedings. So anybody who knows him in real life already knows it's him. Covering his face isn't going to keep him anonymous. Just let it be.
This courts audio is terrible. Can’t even properly hear the witness when they’re in the witness box. The only ones who come across clear are Judge Simpson and whoever is speaking from the podium.
I’m not implying that any of this was the prosecutor’s fault, but this is EXACTLY why witness prep is so vitally important. Whenever I have a client appearing for a deposition or in court testimony the most important thing I would emphasize to them is NOT TO SPEAK. Try and answer every question with a yes or no, and if that’s not possible with a few words possible to answer only what was asked. Do not speak to me in front of anyone else. If you need to say something to me, ask for a break. I’d give this instruction the first time I met the client, when I contacted them to prep for testimony, and it would be the last thing I said to them before they testified. Sometimes its the only instruction I’ll give. So many people cannot bear silence, especially when they are the focus of attention, and will just speak to fill it. Or provide explanations for things in an effort to help. Or just nervous running of the mouth. All of it can sink a case. There are now serious issues with the identification of the defendant as the person who committed this crime. Depending on the evidence, this could be enough to get the case dismissed. All for an errant comment when nobody had even asked him anything.
Agreed. This witness appeared elderly, infirm, and/or confused. People like that are hard to prep. He likely will not be able to identify the men who forced their way in, but his adult daughter will. Shored up by the police testimony as to the wound on his head, he may only be able to testify to a small part of the full events of that incident, the forced entry.
@@-HeyLyd- Yeah, I definitely didn’t mean to imply that the prosecutor failed in any way or is to blame for this, just thought it was a great example of why it’s so important to prep/how things can go wrong from a random comment.
I love the content, but I can't watch it because the audio is ALWAYS so bad. I get that Zoom is much of the problem, but there are just too many better choices for entertainment.
Them officers in the courtroom have some big muscles ! Them couple look like they ready ! Good to see that kind of muscle strength inside the courtroom!💪🏾
I have no idea what this case was about other than a child was involved. Whoever prepared that first witness did a terrible job. Even the police officer wasn't great.
Was the prosecutor really trying to get the witness to identify the person for the very first time in court??? She knows better than that, and I think that's why the defense attorney had him wear a mask!! It only took the judge a minute or two to see what was going on!!
What did he do? From what the cameras picked up, when the judge announced the matter would be adjourned, all he did was stand up and get led out by the deputy.
It was off camera, and no one but the people in the court really know, but we saw what sort of response it got from the judge. But the last time you see him sitting at the table, he's not happy looking and his lawyer appears to be attempting to calm him down.
