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Putin opens 'pandora's box' of torture and death penalty after Moscow terror attack | Gabriel Gavin 

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"If you allow brutality to win, as terrorists try to do, as Putin is trying to do in Ukraine...you tend to open up a Pandora's box."
The torture of the Moscow terror attack suspects and debate around executing them will open up a 'pandoras box' for Putin's regime, warns Politico's Gabriel Gavin.
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@tinetubes
@tinetubes Месяц назад
This is where Russia gets it right. No coddling terrorists there.
@keegan773
@keegan773 Месяц назад
If they have the right people and truthful confessions. When you are judge, jury, torturer and executioner there are no checks and balances.
@matthewcummings9024
@matthewcummings9024 Месяц назад
Nope *Alleged terrorists. Have they been convicted of a crime in court?
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Месяц назад
@@matthewcummings9024 I think Russia has gone beyond actually caring who is guilty and who isn't. Thats now seen as a weakness. A hated western concept. As long as someone get beaten and tortured, they don't much care if they're guilty or not.
@matthewcummings9024
@matthewcummings9024 Месяц назад
@@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Spot on. The people commenting on here thinking that is a good thing, have no idea what they are letting themselves in for! 🤦‍♀
@colourful64able
@colourful64able Месяц назад
100 percent
@johnb5352
@johnb5352 Месяц назад
Do you think really Putin cares ,what anyone in the west thinks of his actions?
@nyakwarObat
@nyakwarObat Месяц назад
Apparently this guys here do 🙄
@gdwnet
@gdwnet Месяц назад
He does otherwise he wouldn't keep threatening the west.
@onetrickpony4179
@onetrickpony4179 Месяц назад
The tiny little man only cares about seeming tall.
@colin7832
@colin7832 Месяц назад
​@@nyakwarObatthank you
@jackduane5555
@jackduane5555 Месяц назад
No. Putin also doesn't care about the lives of his own citizens
@user-xq3sm2wy1p
@user-xq3sm2wy1p Месяц назад
It wasn’t torture, we call it enhanced interrogation
@umbertoalessio5069
@umbertoalessio5069 Месяц назад
for enhanced crime
@teebodk3917
@teebodk3917 Месяц назад
Special interrogative operation.
@WJWeber
@WJWeber Месяц назад
The big problem it’s so brazen
@renumeratedfrog
@renumeratedfrog Месяц назад
Exactly... USA doesn't torture people... it just sends them to "black sites" in other countries
@fergieingrid2521
@fergieingrid2521 Месяц назад
Am i messed yp if your comment made me laugh.
@maipes
@maipes Месяц назад
Play silly games get silly prizes
@stoicsceptic8420
@stoicsceptic8420 Месяц назад
@@salimajahimha1001 now then.
@chad0x
@chad0x Месяц назад
What if they're innocent?
@thegoat11111
@thegoat11111 Месяц назад
@@chad0xThey made a video showing their own faces as they were killing people. So there is no doubt.
@user-anglosaxonwarrior
@user-anglosaxonwarrior Месяц назад
Don't wear body cams showing you committing the crime if you want to claim innocent . ​@@chad0x
@TheBusinessBlueprint_
@TheBusinessBlueprint_ Месяц назад
@@chad0xI hope this isn’t a serious comment
@PartyMan_1TF1
@PartyMan_1TF1 Месяц назад
"A fair trial?" Are you absolutely insane? They were caught in the act.
@ge0rge0x04
@ge0rge0x04 Месяц назад
they are insane yes.They will never condemn the terrorists for killing hundreds of people but they will condemn the Russian government. What a joke.
@josephmills-mw2hs
@josephmills-mw2hs Месяц назад
Liberal left wing middle class politically correct media what do you expect,England need to take a leaf out of Russia's book.notice they have said about the ear three four times for effect.
@russbramley1270
@russbramley1270 Месяц назад
Might I remind you these men collectively killed over 100 people, why are we even considering empathy when these had none? A fair trial…what?
@user-zy9yg2eu5t
@user-zy9yg2eu5t Месяц назад
They haven't had a trial yet. They could have rounded up four random Muslims and doing a show trial. If the Brits did this to Irish lads in the 70's then don't expect anything better from Russians.
@crose7412
@crose7412 Месяц назад
@russbramley1270 Because we don't know that these are the perpetrators. They are 4 men but are the right 4 men?
@limyrob1383
@limyrob1383 Месяц назад
Some men killed over 100 people, was it these men? I seriously doubt it.
@ZhenyaTyoma
@ZhenyaTyoma Месяц назад
@@user-zy9yg2eu5tdon't feed ruSSIan troll
@someuser828
@someuser828 Месяц назад
That's what happens in democratic lawful countries whether you like it or not.. and they've yet to be proven guilty
@eddieledger232
@eddieledger232 Месяц назад
Well just imagine what the dead childrens parent would do to them
@crose7412
@crose7412 Месяц назад
@eddieledger232 What would they do?
@sk8ermGs
@sk8ermGs Месяц назад
@@crose7412Worse I’d imagine, are you a bit special?
@houssedecouette4056
@houssedecouette4056 Месяц назад
@@crose7412 brother have ever passed an IQ test ?
@kislayberi
@kislayberi Месяц назад
​@@crose7412you ret@rded
@crose7412
@crose7412 Месяц назад
@@houssedecouette4056 Too easy.
@AllHamToalla
@AllHamToalla Месяц назад
I would rather have Russia's criminal system than the uk one who let the London Bridge attacker walk free after 8 years despite killing 2 people
@CubicSpline7713
@CubicSpline7713 Месяц назад
I dont think you have grasped the full scope of what you asserted.
@Sheddweller419
@Sheddweller419 Месяц назад
Troll
@Tbone1492
@Tbone1492 Месяц назад
That happened. 8 years only or you exaggerating?
@renatekleefstra
@renatekleefstra Месяц назад
There is a huge difference between Scotland Yard and The KGB head of State
@AllHamToalla
@AllHamToalla Месяц назад
@renatekleefstra do you think Scotland Yard is not the head of state when they spy on their own civilians, including reporters and people who desennted during the lockdown? You're a bit naive... Russia arrests 10 times less people who bad think online
@Ophis1984
@Ophis1984 Месяц назад
Notice how the same people that want us all arrested for sharing memes want these guys treated to a lobster dinner.
@davebrayfb
@davebrayfb Месяц назад
So true
@Slash1066
@Slash1066 Месяц назад
These guys are in for a rough time
@jimdemetri8168
@jimdemetri8168 Месяц назад
So what.
@cr41gieboy
@cr41gieboy Месяц назад
fck 'em
@pooooornopigeon
@pooooornopigeon Месяц назад
Oh dear how sad never mind.
@berenicehickey9755
@berenicehickey9755 Месяц назад
Why do you believe they did it??? How naive....
@AllHamToalla
@AllHamToalla Месяц назад
​@@berenicehickey9755 because their faces are on the body cam released by their employer
@Titant2
@Titant2 Месяц назад
I'm surprised people expected otherwise?
@umbertoalessio5069
@umbertoalessio5069 Месяц назад
only "woke" people expected otherwise
@wsotw2218
@wsotw2218 Месяц назад
I'm surprised people think we don't do the same thing 😅
@raeeskhan3237
@raeeskhan3237 Месяц назад
I’m surprised you’ve forgot the horrors of guantanamo bay!!
@michaeldunham3385
@michaeldunham3385 Месяц назад
​@@raeeskhan3237ah you support terrorists
@redwinger40
@redwinger40 Месяц назад
Right?
@michaelmullins3396
@michaelmullins3396 Месяц назад
Why should Putin care about anything that the west thinks.
@donaldmackerer9032
@donaldmackerer9032 Месяц назад
A really doesn't.
@harikaur3600
@harikaur3600 Месяц назад
He believes in Law. As born under Libra.
@daydays12
@daydays12 Месяц назад
Something to do with humanist values?
@crand20033
@crand20033 Месяц назад
He doesn't even care about what this own people think.
@luisekjeldsen1515
@luisekjeldsen1515 Месяц назад
Cause some russians will know the truths, sinse the war 30 million VPN access, has been installed in russians private computers , and TINY dont like when his people hearing the truths !! SO he cares a great deal !!!
@Dane_B.94
@Dane_B.94 Месяц назад
Fair trial? I wonder if what happened to the victims was fair?
@johnschannel449
@johnschannel449 Месяц назад
Torture and the death penalty in the UK they would be put in the custody of a 5 star luxury hotel with breakfast in bed and indoor swimming pool
@jbbii8643
@jbbii8643 Месяц назад
Torture in the UK consists of listening to 'higher than thou' radio/tv presenters, along with brain dead celebs, talking utter bs 24/7
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 Месяц назад
Meanwhile the UK government jails and tortures journalists like Julian Assange.
@bidenisasnake9932
@bidenisasnake9932 Месяц назад
In the US they might even make President.
@cantrhinkofanamwsoooo7875
@cantrhinkofanamwsoooo7875 Месяц назад
@@bidenisasnake9932 like Trump
@Messy3264
@Messy3264 Месяц назад
​@@cantrhinkofanamwsoooo7875 like Burden.
@romeisfallingagain
@romeisfallingagain Месяц назад
if they attacked all those innocents, why are we concerned if they had an ear cut off? can someone explain this to me please
@shabbydabbydo314
@shabbydabbydo314 Месяц назад
Because the law and due process mean that everyone is entitled to trial and humane treatment. "He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee"
@buffalobob6438
@buffalobob6438 Месяц назад
If... If.. if... I think that's the key word here... How does anyone know anything at all at this point??
@albertabigbuckhunter
@albertabigbuckhunter Месяц назад
@@shabbydabbydo314Those who think they are monsters, often find out on their death bed, they only awakened a true monster.
@stevechandler4607
@stevechandler4607 Месяц назад
@@shabbydabbydo314 quick question.., what do you think about Trump not getting a fair trial? Is it ok for him to be stitched up?
@shabbydabbydo314
@shabbydabbydo314 Месяц назад
@@stevechandler4607 it's not okay for anyone to be "stitched up". I don't know enough about trumps trial to comment on that specifically.
@user-fz6fc7nj7x
@user-fz6fc7nj7x Месяц назад
People in U.K. have been arrested for tweets , praying in public and FB posts. Don’t think we are in a position to judge any other country on the ‘rule of law’.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 Месяц назад
Except we are.
@user-qp8uj1lc3j
@user-qp8uj1lc3j Месяц назад
​@@anthonyhulse1248yeah, SELF ELECTED Judges of others... while spewing lies to the British people on the daily.... Safe & effective WMDs... Hypocrisy!!!!
@Dpw20001
@Dpw20001 Месяц назад
​@@anthonyhulse1248we're just not though, we get arrested quicker for calling out terrorists in this country than actually committing terrorism
@CC-hx5fz
@CC-hx5fz Месяц назад
To be fair, people probably also get arrested for social media posts in Russia.
@chrisviking7807
@chrisviking7807 Месяц назад
What really matters is the fundamental truth.
@Mulagatawny
@Mulagatawny Месяц назад
Anyone you want to talk about a fair trial for Assange ? Or, is that too much for your propaganda machine.
@flowerpower8722
@flowerpower8722 Месяц назад
This video isn't about him. Perhaps find one on Assange.
@robdaubo9441
@robdaubo9441 Месяц назад
I bet alot of people agree with you,I definitely think this is needs talking about but still to many people haven't awaken yet and still unable to stand up and speak out. It's a real shame as all he did was show the corrupt government over in America. Now that's silencing the truth played out in real time. Love from england
@Ken-ps9ux
@Ken-ps9ux Месяц назад
yeah that is too much for them . He exposed americas war crimes and not russias. therefore doesnt suit their narrative
@noahway13
@noahway13 Месяц назад
Would you want a trial in UK or Russia?
@Ken-ps9ux
@Ken-ps9ux Месяц назад
@@noahway13 Russia coz ive done nothing wrong . that makes no difference in the uk. just ask the post masters
@freesaxon6835
@freesaxon6835 Месяц назад
There are people in jail in Britain for just sharing information thats freely available on the internet JUST information
@gdwnet
@gdwnet Месяц назад
Such as?
@linmal2242
@linmal2242 Месяц назад
And the American Govt wants to prosecute and jail Julian Assange for exposing their secret illegal warfares !
@NosyFella
@NosyFella Месяц назад
@@gdwnet Assange
@Sheddweller419
@Sheddweller419 Месяц назад
Educated yourself on the subject before you express inaccurate veiws please. ​@@NosyFella
@NosyFella
@NosyFella Месяц назад
@@Sheddweller419 right back at ya, dunce
@michaelkennedy3372
@michaelkennedy3372 Месяц назад
This guest offers nothing insightful that any keen listener to the subject already knows.
@racingfan1697
@racingfan1697 Месяц назад
Well said 😏... No idea where these insiders are dragged out of they know less than my 17yo lad and he is an outsider 😅🤣😂
@Lumi-oz6nd
@Lumi-oz6nd Месяц назад
People dont even get a fair trial in the UK and US so i dont know what makes this guy think they would get one in Russia .
@onetrickpony4179
@onetrickpony4179 Месяц назад
Examples?
@gdwnet
@gdwnet Месяц назад
@@onetrickpony4179 In the UK look up the horizon post office scandal. No one prosecuted got a fair trial.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 Месяц назад
@@onetrickpony4179don’t feed the troll.
@jackduane5555
@jackduane5555 Месяц назад
Yeh they do. Educate yourself
@BradfordReal
@BradfordReal Месяц назад
Your barrister barely argues for you, i know of a barrister that was asking for extra punishments for his client 😂 the judge had to tell him he cant give unpaid work if hes giving a suspended sentence, happens all the time usually to the poor and people who dont know any different or dont know how to fight it ​@@onetrickpony4179
@subhashisroy2244
@subhashisroy2244 Месяц назад
Tortured? Do you want Russia to present them bouquet of flowers. What did US do in Guantanamo detention camp.
@Caravaggio999
@Caravaggio999 Месяц назад
He lost an ear but he soon found his tongue. In Britain they’d get a hotel room each and a free mobile to call their mums.
@GingerNuts361-ny4qp
@GingerNuts361-ny4qp Месяц назад
If it happened in Australia, would these terrorists be treated as victims suffering cultural oppression?
@kingfishers79
@kingfishers79 Месяц назад
Ear today gone tomorrow
@cornelius9180
@cornelius9180 Месяц назад
😂
@theoriginaldanalogue
@theoriginaldanalogue Месяц назад
Pardon?
@markchambers3833
@markchambers3833 Месяц назад
​@@theoriginaldanalogueHow very non-U. Times Radio will be ashamed of you. 😔
@michaellim8601
@michaellim8601 Месяц назад
😂🤣😅
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed Месяц назад
Speak up, I dont think he heard you.
@charlielynes
@charlielynes Месяц назад
It's amazing just how offended people get by someone else doing something we have done ourselves in very recent times. Rendition, Abu Grade, Gitmo... 🤔
@dubsydubs5234
@dubsydubs5234 Месяц назад
I'm going to refrain from commenting how I want to because of censors and threats for saying non woke bad words.
@ericwillis777
@ericwillis777 Месяц назад
The 'West' abanndonded their values and opended that 'Pandora's box' with waterboarding, extrodinary rendition, and Guantanamo bay. That's why it was such a sad policy, which now becomes hipocracy.
@SuzieD-uq9gn
@SuzieD-uq9gn Месяц назад
The one guy "unconscious "looks like he is dead already.
@umbertoalessio5069
@umbertoalessio5069 Месяц назад
yeah , and?
@devilghostface8798
@devilghostface8798 Месяц назад
And ?
@The_Stranger1986
@The_Stranger1986 Месяц назад
So?
@seanniemeyer5437
@seanniemeyer5437 Месяц назад
Judicial process, justice, rule of law?
@PatusWieczniePodejrzani-kr7vo
@PatusWieczniePodejrzani-kr7vo Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@mielerodriguez5678
@mielerodriguez5678 Месяц назад
Julian Assange rots in a UK prison.and you criticise.
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat Месяц назад
I think you’re on the wrong video. This one is the Russia one, not the whataboutengland one.
@cr41gieboy
@cr41gieboy Месяц назад
@@whynottalklikeapirat what?
@marisabenson1222
@marisabenson1222 Месяц назад
Irrelevant
@madness8556
@madness8556 Месяц назад
Oh the hypocrisy and double standards!
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 Месяц назад
Exactly - and they never even spoke about Gonzalo Lira, a journalist who was jailed in Ukraine, and recently died there.
@ashley5420
@ashley5420 Месяц назад
People dont even get a fair trial in the UK and US so i dont know what makes this guy think they would get one in Russia 😂
@edc1569
@edc1569 Месяц назад
There are a few examples of miscarriages of justice, they are few.
@robertpickering641
@robertpickering641 Месяц назад
Never seen a comment more true on RU-vid
@robertpickering641
@robertpickering641 Месяц назад
@@edc1569 nah. There are loads. A justice system where the time served is based on how much money you can afford to pay for legal reps isn't fair and just 😂😂
@terranceaddison4599
@terranceaddison4599 Месяц назад
One thing: they not making bail that's for sure
@jackjones4861
@jackjones4861 Месяц назад
Because it fits the anti Russian narrative.
@WilliamYoung-in5pp
@WilliamYoung-in5pp Месяц назад
Let Russia deal withits own affairs
@Clivebbb123
@Clivebbb123 Месяц назад
And Ukraine's?
@topskek9786
@topskek9786 Месяц назад
​@@Clivebbb123THE ukraine started this
@Clivebbb123
@Clivebbb123 Месяц назад
@@topskek9786 Ok, Vladimir.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Месяц назад
Nobody is proposing to prevent it dealing with its own affairs. We're just noting how backward the country is.
@wotsits7874
@wotsits7874 Месяц назад
Didn’t see any respect for the “rule of law “ from the attackers so zero sympathy here
@tonyh1515
@tonyh1515 Месяц назад
The Labour party would have given them a council house.
@AeSyrNation
@AeSyrNation Месяц назад
The Tories would jail the neighbours as well
@matthewbaker2573
@matthewbaker2573 Месяц назад
@@AeSyrNation i bet you voted for corbyn yet have a problem with immigration
@J1122
@J1122 Месяц назад
😂
@johnfellows689
@johnfellows689 Месяц назад
You may think that’s a joker. But fact is it’s nearer truth And Labour is a Trojan horse for Islam. Another truth?
@mav8326
@mav8326 Месяц назад
Now let's see what the definition of "terrorism" will be in Russia !
@seanniemeyer5437
@seanniemeyer5437 Месяц назад
And the olive and rosgvadia who failed to intervene in the terrorists attack.
@user-qp8uj1lc3j
@user-qp8uj1lc3j Месяц назад
​@@seanniemeyer5437no such word as rosgvadia! Uneducated much ! Spell words PROPERLY or sit down and be quiet!
@user-qp8uj1lc3j
@user-qp8uj1lc3j Месяц назад
​@@seanniemeyer5437Cool, blame the victim!! Not Nuland and those she paid to do arrange it !! Do you realise, that Russia has these perpetrators mobile phones and they know already whom they were calling. And whome those they were calling were calling, right after it's happened. Their conversations, everything is recorded!! Everything !! Here's a clue: a precision strike FLATTENED a particular building in Ukraine, with more to follow. That's where phone records led to!
@abualyam
@abualyam Месяц назад
Obviously are the West
@user-ok2mn4bw7u
@user-ok2mn4bw7u Месяц назад
The Western media has a very difficult task right now. The out of the letters UKRAINE made word ISIS. But they are trying very hard. As a result of the terrorist attack, 139 people were killed, including children. There is evidence that the Ukrainian Embassy in Tajikistan actively recruited militants. Rustam Azhiev, one of the terrorists who staged the massacre in Moscow, is a citizen of Ukraine and fought in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2022. After shooting people, the terrorists were in a hurry to get to the territory of Ukraine where they were waiting, they were detained a few kilometers from the border of Russia and Ukraine
@Shaka-Spear
@Shaka-Spear Месяц назад
A fair trial?? What fair trial?? There should only be an investigation, no trial
@user-zm9wq8yr4e
@user-zm9wq8yr4e Месяц назад
Interview the detainees relatives to have a much clearer information.
@hongquiao
@hongquiao Месяц назад
I'm against torture, not because I have any sympathy for terrorists but because it is inefficient in getting to the truth. People under torture while say ANYTHING to make it stop. Are these men really the ones responsible for the Moscow attack? Who knows? This whole situation reminds me of the great film "In the Name of the Father" starring Daniel Day Lewis as an Irish youth who, along with his friends, gets threatened and tortured into admitting guilt for an IRA terror attack.
@platinum2905
@platinum2905 Месяц назад
They were caught on 100 video cameras... Please just stop. They knew exactly who they were after
@hongquiao
@hongquiao Месяц назад
@@platinum2905 Are these camera footage available somwhere? I'm curious to see for myself. I don't care how much evidence the Kremlin says there is, they can't be trusted.
@robo9804
@robo9804 Месяц назад
Yeah but if you have 4 perps, and sweat them, you can compare their responses.. kind of destroys your point?
@user-jw8td5xo8e
@user-jw8td5xo8e Месяц назад
We call this in Russia “interrogation with bias.” That's all. One terrorist was even allowed to make a phone call, there was just a problem with the high-voltage connection to the telephone line. Another guy was even allowed not to leave his comfortable chair during the trial. What problems?
@user-gg5wv6pt3i
@user-gg5wv6pt3i Месяц назад
Stop terrorism
@LostAndFound033
@LostAndFound033 Месяц назад
By the west
@user-anglosaxonwarrior
@user-anglosaxonwarrior Месяц назад
​@@LostAndFound033by Islam
@georgephilip1966
@georgephilip1966 Месяц назад
​@@LostAndFound033by Islam.
@user-ok2mn4bw7u
@user-ok2mn4bw7u Месяц назад
The Western media has a very difficult task right now. The out of the letters UKRAINE made word ISIS. But they are trying very hard. As a result of the terrorist attack, 139 people were killed, including children. There is evidence that the Ukrainian Embassy in Tajikistan actively recruited militants. Rustam Azhiev, one of the terrorists who staged the massacre in Moscow, is a citizen of Ukraine and fought in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2022. After shooting people, the terrorists were in a hurry to get to the territory of Ukraine where they were waiting, they were detained a few kilometers from the border of Russia and Ukraine
@user-ok2mn4bw7u
@user-ok2mn4bw7u Месяц назад
​@@LostAndFound033The Western media has a very difficult task right now. The out of the letters UKRAINE made word ISIS. But they are trying very hard. As a result of the terrorist attack, 139 people were killed, including children. There is evidence that the Ukrainian Embassy in Tajikistan actively recruited militants. Rustam Azhiev, one of the terrorists who staged the massacre in Moscow, is a citizen of Ukraine and fought in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2022. After shooting people, the terrorists were in a hurry to get to the territory of Ukraine where they were waiting, they were detained a few kilometers from the border of Russia and Ukraine
@kamranhaidertunio
@kamranhaidertunio Месяц назад
torture is never acceptable. But do you remember Guatanamo bay? Do you remember how prisoners were force fed and tortured there without access to any legal recourse?
@mortenrobinson5421
@mortenrobinson5421 Месяц назад
What-aboutism. What about Guantamo bay then? Were you derailing all the comment section back then too by reminding everyone about the horrible torture in Russian Gulags?
@paraglidingnut26
@paraglidingnut26 Месяц назад
Says the clueless person who has never been in a war or knows anyone who's been a victim of a violent crime.
@onetrickpony4179
@onetrickpony4179 Месяц назад
Do you remember Bucha? If Ukrainians don't care about your crying, there's a reason, Gennady.
@devilghostface8798
@devilghostface8798 Месяц назад
Russia has been doing this croa for years now it's not new
@johnrambo99999
@johnrambo99999 Месяц назад
Never say never
@Paul-qo4ci
@Paul-qo4ci Месяц назад
Justice is being done
@Durnyful
@Durnyful Месяц назад
Fair trial??? These analysts have talked garbage from start & will continue until the end. Sel-reflection.... projection 😂
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 Месяц назад
I'm sure they both still live with their mothers.
@ivan7453
@ivan7453 Месяц назад
Isn't it strange how these terrorists were paid in rubles.
@user-rk5me1ek5t
@user-rk5me1ek5t Месяц назад
It is strange. And also the fact the tallest gun man appeared to be the leader. If you see the original footage . They were 6 ft tall. But the biggest guy was 2 metres. About 6 ft 6 "
@planzed.2
@planzed.2 Месяц назад
Why is the west always concerned over the rights of the terrorists but not the human rights of the terrorists victims who with this lot are often civilians, women & children?
@thedude4794
@thedude4794 Месяц назад
When your thinking your having a bad day just be thankful you are not these guys.
@whocares5773
@whocares5773 Месяц назад
Do you think he used the Guantanamo bay detention site to torture them ?
@davidpower-zq2ur
@davidpower-zq2ur Месяц назад
these two clowns have no idea
@kennymarsh6750
@kennymarsh6750 Месяц назад
Are we supposed to feel sorry for terrorists now?
@gambinobambino127
@gambinobambino127 Месяц назад
Can’t believe some people are still trying to show sympathy for them
@maevey3
@maevey3 Месяц назад
Radio times propoganda is relentless
@tveleruusk
@tveleruusk Месяц назад
It’s like they all been given the same script to read from
@bloomingben5119
@bloomingben5119 Месяц назад
It's a Rupert Murdoch firm. Remember that.
@trumpforever6706
@trumpforever6706 Месяц назад
@@bloomingben5119 Thanks for the info, I didn't know that.
@maevey3
@maevey3 Месяц назад
@@tveleruusk Indeed!
@KevinPhillips_kw
@KevinPhillips_kw Месяц назад
says the bot
@johndrury2028
@johndrury2028 Месяц назад
Has anyone else noticed......... all the bad guys (movies, film clips, documentaries, this video).... they all seem to be wearing ADIDAS JUMPERS/SWEATERS??? The "3-stripes" keep appearing.
@anthonygregory6797
@anthonygregory6797 Месяц назад
Religion of peace at it again.
@andyash5675
@andyash5675 Месяц назад
More censorship of non profane comments.
@mrjinks5641
@mrjinks5641 Месяц назад
That’s RU-vid for you it’s becoming unbearable.
@TransitionedToAShark
@TransitionedToAShark Месяц назад
Yeah the awake people don’t get to reply
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Месяц назад
@@mrjinks5641 yep as someone from the UK we sarcasm as humour, yt just blocks it as Americans think its rude. 🤷‍♂ no its just taking the p1$$ out of a friend.
@mrjinks5641
@mrjinks5641 Месяц назад
@@dcallan812 RU-vid like’s to control the narrative as much as it can, it’s become worse than the old Twitter was, you literally have to break words up to get them past the shadow banning censorship.
@IAmPez
@IAmPez Месяц назад
It's election season again. YT always likes to turn their shadowban algorithm up to 11 when it comes around each time.
@philipsmart3895
@philipsmart3895 Месяц назад
I find this whole conversation pointless. Q. Were they the actual shooters or just 4 men plucked from a prison? Q. Why/how are they still alive and not killed in a gun fight by Russia police/SP? Have ISIS claimed responsibility for this?
@God_help_us
@God_help_us Месяц назад
The Times is pointless propaganda drivel…just here for the comments 😂😂
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Месяц назад
Yes, ISIS have claimed responsibility. As for whether they are the actual shooters and not just innocent scapegoats, who knows? It's Russia, after all.
@Rob-hy8vb
@Rob-hy8vb Месяц назад
In the UK they would be giving a bed a ps2 and a phone
@eyaklen4804
@eyaklen4804 Месяц назад
Putin is very popular nowadays
@errolduncan1192
@errolduncan1192 Месяц назад
Condolences to all those that lost their love one n pray for peace n some from of normality for those who experienced that horror n evil by the gun men
@garethward-stevens1596
@garethward-stevens1596 Месяц назад
Hang on, are there people out there that think they don’t deserve what’s happening to them??
@Nomad-wv4oe
@Nomad-wv4oe Месяц назад
Yep me ! Didn’t get me wrong I’ve got kids and if that happened to my kids I would do a lot worse. But I won’t to live in a society where the law is for everyone, fair and given a chance in front of my piers to be judged. You on the other hand would like to live in a society where that obviously doesn’t happen. Well you can live in society’s like that . See ya
@zenster1097
@zenster1097 Месяц назад
@@Nomad-wv4oe < expulsion.
@TerryAShaw
@TerryAShaw Месяц назад
America is not for you then.
@garethward-stevens1596
@garethward-stevens1596 Месяц назад
@@Nomad-wv4oe but they caught them at the scene? Literally red handed!! I to would love to live in a world of peace and love. It would seem to me that’s impossible tho 🤨
@Dpw20001
@Dpw20001 Месяц назад
England should take note
@SuperGreatSphinx
@SuperGreatSphinx Месяц назад
Saint George The Patron Saint Of England
@MrLittlejonboy
@MrLittlejonboy Месяц назад
Ask the family’s of the dead what they think
@aaat4873
@aaat4873 Месяц назад
How did they expect Russia to react?
@sooky2253
@sooky2253 Месяц назад
Has anyone thought to check up where Victoria Newland has been since she allegedly 'retired'. Would it be Tajikistan, by any chance?
@harikaur3600
@harikaur3600 Месяц назад
Ohh, my Gosh! Poor Tajikistan then!
@Rbuffdogs
@Rbuffdogs Месяц назад
Well how do you think the survivors and the families of the victims feel. Hard to have sympathy.
@lapdog5067
@lapdog5067 Месяц назад
“Fair trial”? They’re guilty 😂
@peterbushby9009
@peterbushby9009 Месяц назад
Ear ear ..
@Floweringlotus
@Floweringlotus Месяц назад
Just think of all the legal aid the U.K. have saved by them not attacking us. Thank yoooou 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Lucysweirdandstrange
@Lucysweirdandstrange Месяц назад
Exactly
@alitn588
@alitn588 Месяц назад
Here we go again... UK talking about a democracy and human rights....!!! 🙄
@josimpson7999
@josimpson7999 Месяц назад
And? What’s your point?
@nepaligurkha5000
@nepaligurkha5000 Месяц назад
@geraldgeaf1292
@geraldgeaf1292 Месяц назад
@@josimpson7999 They are in no position to talk about it. We rendeitioned INNOCENT people to be locked up in Guantanamo with NO CHARGE ever brought against them. Have you seen the state of Julian Assange in Belmarsh? Did you see how he was manhandled to drag him out of the Ecuador embassy?
@Droopy78212
@Droopy78212 Месяц назад
@@geraldgeaf1292they all admitted they were guilty in this case so what’s your point
@simmy3076
@simmy3076 Месяц назад
​@@josimpson7999All of us? That's amazing.
@williamwomack1195
@williamwomack1195 Месяц назад
I have a feeling they regret their decision
@gordonclark7632
@gordonclark7632 Месяц назад
Although one cannot condone the actions of these men but I see already that the western reporters are showing sympathy and decrying their treatment. Of course in a western society, a criminal must be treated fairly, given all the benefits to ensure there is no complaint about how he is treated and forget about those who were the victim. Start thinking about the victims for once! Russia has an unfair system by comparison but when something like this happens, what is more important? Treat them well or ensure they are held accountable for their actions.
@JuanManuel0610
@JuanManuel0610 Месяц назад
What about Julian Assange?
@whynottalklikeapirat
@whynottalklikeapirat Месяц назад
I believe the key words here are “what about”
@onetrickpony4179
@onetrickpony4179 Месяц назад
What *about* Assange?
@GailPlatt
@GailPlatt Месяц назад
What about him?
@maevey3
@maevey3 Месяц назад
Yep. Hypocrisy.
@onetrickpony4179
@onetrickpony4179 Месяц назад
@@maevey3 Yep. Russian disintelpro troll.
@shabbydabbydo314
@shabbydabbydo314 Месяц назад
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee"
@user-ze1yx2hb7w
@user-ze1yx2hb7w Месяц назад
Im 100% certain there is cctv in that building so they know exactly who these guys tgat did it are
@pegnewsarepta3589
@pegnewsarepta3589 Месяц назад
They will not get a fair trial not by putin, he needs an excuse. 😢😢CHOKE 😢😢CHOKE 😢😢CHOKE 😢😢CHOKE
@davidbrown5411
@davidbrown5411 Месяц назад
Oh dear... How sad...never mind. It's just a pity Russia wasn't in charge of London policing.
@jeanpierrecarpentier
@jeanpierrecarpentier Месяц назад
Doing what these terrorists did, is in no way the actions of a human being, where is your compassion for the victims here, This might indicate a profound disrespect for life that you are carrying here.
@marisabenson1222
@marisabenson1222 Месяц назад
Where is Russia compassion for Ukraine, or is that just profound disrespect?
@TransitionedToAShark
@TransitionedToAShark Месяц назад
Doing what russia did! ?
@JackDarcy-vl8rq
@JackDarcy-vl8rq Месяц назад
How do you know it was them?
@jeanpierrecarpentier
@jeanpierrecarpentier Месяц назад
@@marisabenson1222You have it all wrong. Supporting that kind of hate won't ever repair the nature of humanity's problems.
@markabrahams2191
@markabrahams2191 Месяц назад
@@marisabenson1222 Where is the compassion for the mainly Russian speakers that were ambushed and massacred by Ukrainian nazis in the Maidan , or the people that they burned alive in Odessa .
@Mike-ud6kc
@Mike-ud6kc Месяц назад
I believe the Russians were too lenient , mercy doesn't come to my mind in this case
@SuperGreatSphinx
@SuperGreatSphinx Месяц назад
Blessed Are The Merciful
@Cvaut
@Cvaut Месяц назад
Let the impacted country deal with the terrorists in their own way. So many innocent people lost their lives and they have to manage things as they deem fit . Other trying to stir in muddy waters using sympathy and visibility for themselves is onky wasting time
@rayshac3450
@rayshac3450 Месяц назад
It seems they’ve got off very lightly so far.
@alejandroamazonas
@alejandroamazonas Месяц назад
Do prisioners in Guantanamo get a fair trial? Do they even get a trial? 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂
@bigshoes5228
@bigshoes5228 Месяц назад
Britain judging other countries on violence 😂😂😂😂
@johnnybgood5836
@johnnybgood5836 Месяц назад
Gonzalo Lira. Guantanamo. Julian Asssange. H Block N Ireland. Slaughter in Ghaza. Birmingham 6. Guildford 4. Bloody Sunday , Death on the Rock Gibraltar ....etc etc etc etc etc
@user-wv8tm2iv9b
@user-wv8tm2iv9b Месяц назад
But not Navalny? Weird how that works.
@iandoughty7142
@iandoughty7142 Месяц назад
So what@@
@bobalysiaharas6158
@bobalysiaharas6158 Месяц назад
Torture has been proven to be ineffective at getting to the truth, but very effective at getting people to say whatever you want them to say to make the torture stop. The implication is that these guys could be the real perpetrators or they are just some guys they picked up and blamed. Russia needs to provide the evidence that led them to arrest these men if they they want the rest of the world to believe it. But I don’t think Putin cares about that at all.
@iandoughty7142
@iandoughty7142 Месяц назад
Prob uman right here n un free meals .n dentists. Instead of smashing teeth in.
@user-zm9wq8yr4e
@user-zm9wq8yr4e Месяц назад
No one talks about Navalny any longer.
@avnpavan
@avnpavan 28 дней назад
Who are these losers? That suspect had already lost his ear, and his face was in blood when he was caught.
@donidon5491
@donidon5491 Месяц назад
How do they know for sure it was those guys that done it ???
@vladimirkalugin7287
@vladimirkalugin7287 Месяц назад
They filmed themselves doing it..
@IAmPez
@IAmPez Месяц назад
Because as well as everything else they recorded, they also recorded their own unmasked faces in that footage.
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 Месяц назад
They recorded themselves walking around shooting people. Our media over here won't show the footage becasue they want to put doubt in peoples' minds that it as them.
@ransertu7630
@ransertu7630 Месяц назад
The footage was blurred. Faces unmasked but masked by the blur. You could at least try to make some sense
@IAmPez
@IAmPez Месяц назад
@@ransertu7630 The footage you might have seen on mainstream media was likely edited to add the blur. The original footage wouldn't have the blur though, would it? Think about it. Where did the media get the footage from?
@elonthun8012
@elonthun8012 Месяц назад
So what how there getting treated
@LostAndFound033
@LostAndFound033 Месяц назад
One word, MOSSAD
@leogallegos9359
@leogallegos9359 Месяц назад
"If" they are guilty! ... what would you mean by deserving a 'fair trial'?
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever Месяц назад
The sad part is, are these suspects even guilty? I doubt it.
@jackspring7709
@jackspring7709 Месяц назад
They filmed themselves up close walking around murdering people. Our media over here won't show that footage becasue they want people to draw the conclusion that you have just drawn.
@user-pn5ki1dj2x
@user-pn5ki1dj2x 28 дней назад
There are many ways to confirm it, CCTV cameras, videos these terrorists take and upload, identifying Terrorists faces with the help of survivors, making phone calls to other funding suspects from terrorists phones, etc. ! So please stop it right there!
@gamerxgamez8988
@gamerxgamez8988 Месяц назад
this another lefty channel i have to block
@marisabenson1222
@marisabenson1222 Месяц назад
😂times radio lefty? Sheez how far to the right are you?
@markchambers3833
@markchambers3833 Месяц назад
They're not lefties, just globalist mouthpieces spouting their globalist propaganda. Don't feel too bad if you can't tell the difference. Occasionally, Times Radio pretend they're vaguely conservative but, for the most part, their agenda and that of the leftists are almost identical. There's barely a cigarette paper between the two. It's grimly humourous that here Times Radio are pretending they care about human rights.
@TerryAShaw
@TerryAShaw Месяц назад
So far left, it's criminal. They are nuts bars. Actually a Cadbuy bar has more brains than these two.
@MrResco2
@MrResco2 Месяц назад
Free Julio Assange, after that you can criticise Russia
@ianmatthews5566
@ianmatthews5566 Месяц назад
Why are you trying to say Putin is the bad guy???
@ianmatthews5566
@ianmatthews5566 Месяц назад
Our government would give them benefits bail and houses
@anyatranter5588
@anyatranter5588 Месяц назад
I'm sure it's no worse than Guantanamo Bay
@marisabenson1222
@marisabenson1222 Месяц назад
What was the result once that became known to the public? A large outcry and eventual shutting down of the prison and long investigations and compensation. The Russian people are either complicit or weak serf like people.
@cheehee808_
@cheehee808_ Месяц назад
Call it social justice
@davidbyrne1264
@davidbyrne1264 Месяц назад
This kind of stuff, torturing captives, etc is EXACTLY what Trump has in mind for a justice system. He has shown he is capable and he talks about it ALL THE TIME!!
@tveleruusk
@tveleruusk Месяц назад
Different UK channels, all telling you to think the same thing… the hypocrisy of the messaging is astounding, the delivery is rather rushed and crude.
@robdaubo9441
@robdaubo9441 Месяц назад
I look at any main stream media the same no matter what country your in but if u want to know the truth it's opposite to what these idiots say lol
@marisabenson1222
@marisabenson1222 Месяц назад
The truth? Or you would like us to be so devoid of thinking skills that we believe what the Kremlin says.
@tveleruusk
@tveleruusk Месяц назад
@@marisabenson1222 I am glad you figured it all out in a weekend!
@klemzarcade7910
@klemzarcade7910 Месяц назад
I wonder how human rights activists in the UK are going to defend the terrorists from being tortured?
@ImperiumGallery
@ImperiumGallery Месяц назад
Nice try with the narrative painting. It seems the people have seen through your mental gymnastics this time. What an absurdly out-of-touch headline for the video
@francoroberti6702
@francoroberti6702 Месяц назад
You guys worry about the monsters .
@ericaward702
@ericaward702 Месяц назад
NOT ISIS - JUST MERE SCAPEGOATS
@JuliusFawcett
@JuliusFawcett Месяц назад
looks like they found some taxi drivers to take the blame
@streetinscotland1225
@streetinscotland1225 Месяц назад
Looks like you've copied and pasted that comment 🤫
@ticcusagram
@ticcusagram Месяц назад
​@streetinscotland1225 what street in Scotland you on? I'm in Glasgow!
@svetlanakononenko7952
@svetlanakononenko7952 Месяц назад
Какой ты умный!!!!
@sadas3190
@sadas3190 Месяц назад
Wow what a disgustingly insensitive comment.
@Classified5308
@Classified5308 Месяц назад
They were all found fleeing along with them driving the same vehicles which the terrorists took, and its proven its them.
@MyBilliam
@MyBilliam Месяц назад
Are they actually the suspects or did they just pick up four random guys
@sfactory8253
@sfactory8253 Месяц назад
They were wearing similar clothes when picked up as the attackers. Under questioning they seemed to be. No idea why they threw their weapons away though.
@mdge
@mdge Месяц назад
Yes, isis released pictures of them all posing with weapons and the flag.
@gavinjames1145
@gavinjames1145 Месяц назад
They admitted everything when they were apprehended. Videos were released on RU-vid.
@yerokaasregor
@yerokaasregor Месяц назад
​@@sfactory8253 they ran out of ammunition and when they were rammed to a stop while fleeing they were told to throw their weapons on the ground. 2 of the guys admitted what they did and told them everything that happened up until they were apprehended.
@matthewbaker2573
@matthewbaker2573 Месяц назад
@@yerokaasregor the fact that Putin said they were running towards Ukraine is enough to draw suspicion this was planned - Russia has been paying Muslims to join his "special military operation" FYI, there's over 520 miles as the bird flys from Moscow to the border
@pureblood1978x
@pureblood1978x Месяц назад
We need that kind of justice here in the UK.
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