putting AB/QT tech to the test - Armored Core 6: Fires of Rubicon PvP 

thank you, much love! keep at it my dude

@@shiftarmoredcore Thanks a million! Also what FCS and Engine are you using by chance?

hit jump instead of back and you won't have that awful stop animation.

this technique has a skill floor, if you shoot at the wrong time(IE too late) you will go past your opponent at a severe angle and this kills your AB

Don’t copy it dude just make the build yourself you have all the stats available to you anyway when you’re building the mech anyway, just double-double shotguns and just mix and match the parts you like until you get the lowest QB cooldown

@PurelyBeans i cant find your reply any chance you could reiterate and lmk what generator would be best? i dont think i have them all so i wanna see if i need to hunt

@@lobsterlobber3178 I just want to preface this by saying I dont mean to come off as rude but, I don't wish to copy this quad shotgun build, since personally I just think the playstyle is boring and want From to nerf pvp shotgun stagger and I mean all the shotguns not just the zimms. The reason I wish to see his full build however is for the internal parts, mainly the generator, but if I had to hazard a guess it's the Dafeng gen you get around chapter 4 having recently used them myself. I also just wish to have a base so I can build off that to fit my particular playstyle I like in a lightweight build.

@@Kimchivender I also thought about that Dafeng gen but does it have red boosters like in the video? but the EN recharge is too fast to be the coral gens, I am clueless

@@UlfMTG his boosters are orange not red

Zimmer and handle both are quite heavy and (somehow) energy draining

Try comboing quad hand missiles with rj kick, its something im exploring and it seems to combo v well

He is using assault boost as stated in the title. He just has a set up where his QB drain isn’t eating his energy like it would on most builds.

I tried armored core 4a and i couldn't get the combat lol, how do you reliably dodge and attack? It's too fast

Works both sides, the extra mobility allows the lighter AC to feint or just straight up stop shift boosting at times to break up repetition and add some variance in the combat It’s a dance, and it’s cool to see

We do know it is a Balam reactor due to the exhaust plume of the thrusters

Pretty sure he's using the fcs that is almost completely focused on close range, so the tracking will suddenly ramp as soon as he clears the 130m mark.

Ye, and Ortus arms have quite decent weapon specialization so it's much quicker when in range

The issue is how the jamming launcher works. It's like partial cover where you also lose target on anything through or in the smoke. In theory it'd be amazing for manual aiming against slower targets, but you'd also have to fire it early so the enemy isn't inside it, and then quick turn while keeping lock on, using the small window where the smoke's between you to break your opponent's lock-on

@@Ashe4413 just manual fire it into the ground. quite easy with mouse and keyboard, don't even have to be conservative with it. quite a lot of ammo for a 1v1 and quite a long duration. the only question is what to follow it up with to actually punish the enemy

Just because someone has a more cool-tempered and chill approach to combat doesn’t mean they’re weird 🦾

It's expected since you're lightweight means less armor, so you get stun far easier than tank build.

​@@exo-gladius4805yeah I think the biggest problem is just the disparity in health I mean even midways don't come close to the amount of AP that a tank has I've stung the tank five or six times with a needle launchers and grenade launchers and like I'll get them stunned with the needle launcher hit them with a grenade launcher starting with a needle launch Hit him with a grenade launch. Oh well blast and Gatling gone rounds into their fucking face hole. And it's like nothing barely does anything

@@lucky13sj it's not just AP, the difference in defensive points of kinetic, pulse and impact are all huge so using it against them is good but not good enough to stagger them in one sitting.

@@exo-gladius4805 yeah that disparity creates a lot of questions because there's no way to know how much anti-defense you're opponent has against certain things just based on what armor they are unless you memorized every stat light of the game. There's no just look at your opponent going oh okay so my bullets aren't going to do a whole lot so I have to change up my plan. It kind of makes the PvP feel a little one-sided at times like oh well I guess it was just nothing I could do they just outright beat me because they just chose parts that are good against what I'm using. So I then have to completely change my design and then what happens when I run into someone who's completely built against that. Well now I got to change my design again really limits what you can and can't do in the game. And it feels to flip of the coin. Do I get a match up that's really good for me or I'll shoot nope not this time. Like there's a bunch of stuff in the game just like you can't understand just by looking at what's going on. And I don't feel that so much should have to run one laser weapon just in case they run into a guy who has high defense against kinetic weapons.

Lightweights already get stunned less from ACS strain I feel like they should balance it so Lightweights basically don't get stunned at all. Maybe when they get staggered they just stop for like half a second but don't take extra damage since they're already squishy as shit.

imagine watching more than the first minute of a video and commenting this

HE KNOWS

Bro is now about to build the same AC as him

kipsz has been destroying me in games with the cluster launcher, it hits like a truck. super underrated weapon and insane once you figure it out

@@shiftarmoredcore one of the best melees for the PvP. Barely any warnings, fast, good range, covers an ~120 degree arc and does better impact than the moonlight or it's red version.

I would guess type b because that's similar to what he used in for answer iirc

Probably the cones down to fcs and hardlocking

Angling your camera is very important to how you turn while boosting

The reason against the heavy was because getting hit by a needle is basically fatal. So it wasn't worth punishing on the stagger only to the heavy to snag them with the needle aoe. Also some AC's have incredibly fast recovery, so if you're not already close with shots ready to go you don't always get to capitalize.

Another thing to note is against heavier mechs with ballistic defense, is that you have to be in your ideal range to do full damage. Which seeing how Shift is using four shotguns is around 100m or less for ideal. So sometimes en and weapon range don't allow it.

@@chromekittyking5086 also he's out of EN by the time he staggers an enemy. it's a free shot in most cases for the enemy, i learned this the hard way whenever i tried to followup the stagger with stuff like laser slicer

In the later clips he’s using the zimmerman

He also posted a comment on another video (maybe the one before this one..) saying the Zimmermans were CRINGE

because i guess the zimmermans feel like you're cheesing compared to the other shotguns where you're doing all the work yourself. but in the end the other shotguns, especially the multi barrel one, probably werent doing enough. too shitty or too cheesy, no middle ground. i hope fromsoft balances it out somehow and generally this build is more for fun than efficiency. he probably went through the same experience as me, experimenting first with handguns and smgs and shotguns and then melee weapons like dagger, piledriver, stun baton(in terms of fun they dont work out for high mobility because of the animation lock, and the fact that melee thrust is an entirely different stat from other boosts, forcing you to use kikaku), bullet orbits and missiles, then stunguns + melee, then back to pump shotguns because they require raw input, they aren't peashooters like smgs, and can stagger without having to sustain fire for a long time like handguns do, but then probably got a bit frustrated by the uphill battle against meta users so in need of more firepower ended up using zimmers as a compromise. which is pretty sad in a way

Do you not see how he's constantly in assault boost? Flying in circles with assault boost? Idk htf he did it but apparently it's a thing

@@Wintercide LMAO…just let go of the joystick or Button after you boost This isn’t tech

@@Daijhes it's using quick turn while flying. and to your 'This isn't tech" statement. Tech is short for Technique = "a way of carrying out a particular task, a skillful or effcient way of doing something" this is indeed tech. I didn't even know it was possible until I saw this video.

Probably a quick boost efficient core cheap boosters and perhaps a higher capacity generator Get into the garage and start testing

​@@thatoneguyyouthinkshouldbe2431 yeah I'm not retarded I know what makes boosts faster, but obviously I came to a youtube video expecting some sharing of information but OP refuses to do that for some reason

@@UlfMTG it’s not that hard to discern what he’s using. The frame and weapons are out for everyone to see just play with the internals

@@UlfMTG bro you can see what parts he's using by looking at him you don't gotta be hostile

He is using the strafe boosting during an assault boost, not quick boosting. Start an assault boost and hit A or D on the keyboard. It’s interesting because assault boosting boosts your impact damage and resistance, helping him stagger them and helping him not get staggered.

probably works in public lobbies against randoms, not against the circle i play with who are all multi-year veterans of ACFA pvp 🤣

he's on a lightweight build, if you simplify your movement you just get insta stunned into non existent AP bar

@@shiftarmoredcoreWere the people in this video “ACFA veterans” because they are bad at the game.

@@sevenchambers here u go dude, good enough for you? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ghb4xeMMtIE.html

😂 @sevenchambers your not part of the loop get good and get known 😂

“This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!”

also take 3.8 seconds to start regen with max core, its terrible and idk why people keep suggesting it lmao

@@shiftarmoredcore Because it reloads even while you're falling, whereas normal generators force you to go to the ground or wait for your energy to reload. On a side note, while this build looks a lot of fun to play, I can't help but wonder if going quadruple shotguns isn't limiting your options a bit too much. Have you considered longer range shoulders for a better sustained acs load buildup?

​@@shiftarmoredcoreI use it on my lightweight build and I just bottom out my energy so I always get 80% back I think it's pretty good

​@@Phyllion-shotguns are busted in this game. Two pumps at close range will have like 80% stagger bar full already.

@@beegest_yoshi yeah but TBF, kick plus double shotgun once or twice will stagger any build without fail, having shotguns on your shoulders as well comes with the downside of having absolutely zero long range or damage option I corrected my previous post to be more clear as to what I meant