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Putting Others First - Selfishness v. Selflessness Redux | Sanders Sides 

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*WARNING: This video contains instances of computerized voices, eyestrain, loud noises, & digitalized music & sound effects. There is also flashing at 10:46 & 30:20-30:25*
At long last, the day is here. Thomas was torn between going to a callback and potentially fulfilling his dream of being a part of a huge cinematic project, or going to two of his best friends’ wedding to be there for them and support them. And, even though, he’s sure he made the right choice, something feels off. After all is said and done, is there something to be said for putting others before yourself?
I wanna give a HUGE thank you to the director of this episode, Joan, who takes so much of their time to help get these performances outta me and I could not be more grateful!
Joan’s Links:
thejoanglebook.tumblr.com
/ thejoanglebook
I also have to thank Joan for heading up the writing of this episode, as well as Davi and Quil, who assisted!
Davi’s Links:
/ hello_davii
/ hello_davi
vm.tiktok.com/ZMJAwTT8X/
Quil’s Links:
/ quildarling
/ quildarling
vm.tiktok.com/ZMJPjMe4W/
And a GIGANTIC thank you to the animator who brought every video game scene to life: John Stratman!! He has an amazing channel and you’re gonna wanna check it out, TRUST ME!
John’s Links:
/ motionfictiontv
/ stratmasterj
/ stratmasterj
Also, I have to give a HUMONGOUS thank you to Erin AKA RainyDayWindow, for helping create all the Ace Attorney art for the Rhythm Redux song!
Erin’s Links:
/ supercoffeehigh
Gotta give a GINORMOUS thank you to Joseph and Joan who helped create the music for the Rhythm Redux song!!
And I’d like to give a GARGANTUAN bit of gratitude to Connor, who helped compose special background music for this video!!
Connor’s Links:
/ khonjin
And, a TITANIC thank you to Talyn, who is the hands behind the Deceit makeup!
Talyn’s Links:
/ tallykat3
And a GIANT thank you to Joan and Cam, who helped me edit this video!!
Cam’s Links:
/ camdenfoote
/ camdenfoote
Of course, a SUPER-SIZED thank you to Diana, Aleksandr, and Dalton for voicing and playing characters in this video!
Diana’s (Mary Lee) Links:
/ t_diana
Aleksandr’s (Lee) Links:
/ awilde.photo
/ aswilde1
Dalton’s (Wedding Photographer) Links:
/ daltoncotter
www.daltoncotter.com
I would also like to give a very heartfelt thank you to our special guest, Leslie Odom, Jr.!!
And, last, but not least, an EPIC thank you to Danilo for creating our thumbnail!
Danilo's Links:
/ cometbrace
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www.vine.co/ThomasSanders
/ thomassanders
/ thomassanders
/ thomassandersofficial
Tik Tok - thomassanders
Tumblr - / thatsthat24
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Works Cited:
The History of the Trolley Problem - www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thea...
Deontological Ethics - www.britannica.com/topic/deon...
Deontology - www.minerva.mic.ul.ie/Vol19/De...
Are You Engaging In Enough Leisure Activity - www.psychologytoday.com/us/bl...
Why Put Your Oxygen Mask On First is Not the Best Metaphor for Self-Care -
www.everydaytherapist.com/blo...
Why You're Instructed To Put Oxygen Masks On Yourself First - www.google.com/amp/s/www.huff...
U.S. Could End Homelessness With Money Used To Buy Christmas Decorations [INFOGRAPHIC] - www.huffpost.com/entry/homele...
Six Facts About Wealth in the United States - www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fro...
The Cost to End Homelessness - www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/us...
Hypoxia and Hypoxemia - www.medicinenet.com/hypoxia_a...
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Комментарии : 37 тыс.   
@faitharnold882
@faitharnold882 4 года назад
is no one gonna talk about how janus' name is the same as the Roman god Janus who has two heads, is the god of new beginnings and doors (both mental and physical), his 2 heads (one young one old) allow him to look at all aspects of a situation and come up with a conclusion that is inclusive and his two heads look at both evil and good!!!! and im pretty sure that's why deceits name is janus, he has two sides, looks at all aspects of the situation etc
@szaboluca5536
@szaboluca5536 4 года назад
I mean even his symbol is a two-headed snake
@giuliasantini8427
@giuliasantini8427 4 года назад
Holy hell.... thank you for sharing!
@oreokitkat7992
@oreokitkat7992 4 года назад
And I'm pretty sure Janus had a role in a myth including Romulus-
@shelbiecain9289
@shelbiecain9289 4 года назад
Yass
@nocturnecz3965
@nocturnecz3965 4 года назад
I've seen Janus mentioned as a possible name for Deceit exactly for these reasons. Add the fact that all the 'dark' sides have names of a similar origin and it's a pretty solid case. I won't lie, I screamed when he introduced himself. We got it right!
@starcat4814
@starcat4814 4 года назад
The sides just look at each other and think: each of you is an idiot, but I'm a horrible person, so what are we gonna do?
@nerdywolverine8640
@nerdywolverine8640 4 года назад
O u c h
@caffeinemilk
@caffeinemilk 4 года назад
I mean, you’re not wrong
@abrielleelysee7991
@abrielleelysee7991 4 года назад
That's pretty much it.
@maddy7101
@maddy7101 4 года назад
I feel like at the end though, they all just felt really bad and they just wanted to like each other again.
@viravos
@viravos 4 года назад
accurate af :,)
@EliasMorals
@EliasMorals Год назад
God, Janus is written so well in this episode He plays the devil's advocate for all the arguments but never actively steers thomas wrong. He has good arguments without needing to quote, and he's kind of like a compliment to Logan.
@Unidentified952
@Unidentified952 Год назад
Yeah!
@bee_the_fox_
@bee_the_fox_ 11 месяцев назад
Actually, the "compliment" is extremely accurate due to the fact that blue and yellow are invertered colors, which compliment each other! You invert blue, you get yellow and vice-versa! You are one smart cookie!
@lukeroberson2115
@lukeroberson2115 9 месяцев назад
Janus is the compliment to Patton, the same way Remus is a compliment to Roman. My personal belief is the upcoming orange side will be Logan's foil.
@moothecow8029
@moothecow8029 3 года назад
Did you know snakes are colorblind? So the line where janus says if remus didnt have a mustache he wouldn't be able to tell whos the evil twin might be true for him.
@claireaquos6532
@claireaquos6532 2 года назад
Oh 🤔
@purposehearts190
@purposehearts190 2 года назад
It also explains the red/blue shirt thing from a few episodes back cause the shirt was gray.
@moothecow8029
@moothecow8029 2 года назад
@@purposehearts190 oh yeah!
@percyjackson4709
@percyjackson4709 2 года назад
@@purposehearts190 i mean, it had red and blue on it sooo
@markyboi9354
@markyboi9354 Год назад
Noooooooooooooooooo (Is it a Pokémon reference or a just a pun you thought of and thought wuz funny)
@joshuahuvenaars9021
@joshuahuvenaars9021 4 года назад
Decades from now, people are going to analyze the great philosopher Thomas Sanders and be so amazed and confused why he is the same persons talking to himself in a bunch of different outfits. Truly the Plato of our time.
@julien4305
@julien4305 4 года назад
Philosophers are always exotic beings Thomas fits in very well
@PurpleMoth459
@PurpleMoth459 4 года назад
True 😂😂
@MisterDeplume
@MisterDeplume 4 года назад
He's like the modern Mr. Rogers, just for more mature audiences
@nonameless2
@nonameless2 4 года назад
Conspiracy theory: Patton is the cutest communist ever
@shellypalomarez2651
@shellypalomarez2651 4 года назад
...wtf-
@CooperGooper
@CooperGooper 4 года назад
He is also the cutest cheater
@kingdynam4315
@kingdynam4315 4 года назад
i'm sorry i have to it's time to go to guwulag
@HALLO-od9vm
@HALLO-od9vm 4 года назад
If anyone says that Patton isn't adorable I get Logan to screen falsehood in there ear as loud as the Microsoft music when it turns on. DO NOT TEST THIS FACT
@ultimateanimation7118
@ultimateanimation7118 4 года назад
'Roman be nice... OR GET SENT TO THE GULAG!'
@threelayerbeefybeanburrito872
@threelayerbeefybeanburrito872 3 года назад
Did anyone notice how the two sides that were missing (Remus and Virgil) were the two sides that actually played a really large role in this episode? The anxiety over having to pick between yourself and others, as well as guilt, and the dark creativity needed to imagine those train car scenarios
@galaxyweirdo1018
@galaxyweirdo1018 2 года назад
This comment sounds so smart
@Sarah-vv6in
@Sarah-vv6in 2 года назад
My theory is that whenever the other sides aren’t “physically there”, Thomas actually embodies their personality and role. It’s not full proof because of the anxiety 2 parter but in the moving on 2 parter Logan said that he wasn’t an emotion and couldn’t really duck 🦆 out. And of course Thomas actually said “falsehood”. So Thomas feeling anxious and imagining that dark situation makes complete sense to me cause they are part of him after all. Does that make sense? lol
@fallenpaint4494
@fallenpaint4494 2 года назад
i can just see the two watching the show, and when janus came into scene virgil said 'Now i think its time to dial down, i feel like making the snake cry would be to far' and remus just makes roman go off
@ithinkamberiscool
@ithinkamberiscool 2 года назад
LITERALLY THOUGHT THAT
@IguessImhere223
@IguessImhere223 2 года назад
@@Sarah-vv6in Quack
@shelby5736
@shelby5736 2 года назад
The absolute flex of having Leslie Odom Jr in your video but only giving him a few seconds of screen time
@MasterMagikarp
@MasterMagikarp 2 года назад
Chad move right there.
@sadie6094
@sadie6094 2 года назад
"just your typical tuesday." -Thomas Sanders
@boomgirlbucko
@boomgirlbucko 2 года назад
I mean Thomas is definitely more popular than him soooo
@bilsonator4325
@bilsonator4325 4 года назад
I’d like to think Virgil was hiding in his room because he’s trying to think of how to talk to Thomas and the others about him being a past “dark side” and this episode was to show that not everything was black and white so showing deceit in a new “light” gave way to how old concepts aren’t always the best concepts.
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 4 года назад
"so showing deceit in a new “light” gave way to how old concepts aren’t always the best concepts." Janus did say that the moral ideals Thomas grew up with were only hurting him...
@Anthein3D
@Anthein3D 4 года назад
Yeah that's probably true
@SJ-ch6yv
@SJ-ch6yv 4 года назад
I forgot about that! Good theory!
@SomebodyUnamed
@SomebodyUnamed 4 года назад
Oh yeah, now I feel so bad... oh noooo...
@latoyabrown7505
@latoyabrown7505 4 года назад
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT (about Virgil)
@koipond04
@koipond04 4 года назад
GUYS YOU CAN SEE THE FEAR IN JANUS' EYES BEFORE HE REVEALS HIS NAME. YOU CAN HEAR THE FEAR IN HIS VOICE. MY POOR BABY WAS SO SCARED TO SHARE HIS NAME-
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma
@aromanticfranziskavonkarma 4 года назад
Honestly Janus' name reveal made me cry more than Virgil's and that's saying something
@karmaanimates1369
@karmaanimates1369 4 года назад
Ugh ik and then Roman ruins it by laughing MY HEART
@katherinewright6426
@katherinewright6426 4 года назад
Both of the selflessness vs. selfishness Sander sides episodes has given me a new appreciation for Deceit AKA Janus. I now love the slippery snake boy.
@amandajensen3382
@amandajensen3382 4 года назад
By the way this scene starts at 40:51 😉
@JazzyReShawn
@JazzyReShawn 4 года назад
Curly Bug I think it’s because when Virgil revealed his name, it was a more happy occasion, he finally found his place with all the other sides. With Janus, there was a downward spiral throughout the episode, not to mention it’s the first time we see Janus in a light different from what we’re used to. He actually looks vulnerable and even scared to share something personal about himself, and where Virgil gets to ease into sharing his name, Janus didn’t have that luxury. This is by far the heaviest Sanders Side episode.
@greenbean6547
@greenbean6547 2 года назад
Virgil: has a redemption ark Janus: is honestly trying to help Thomas Remus: eating deodorant in the background
@vendedordecanela
@vendedordecanela 2 года назад
Honestly i prefer the dark sides
@foxle_
@foxle_ Год назад
Now let’s see what happens when orange is revealed
@TheMinecrafty3cl1pse
@TheMinecrafty3cl1pse Год назад
I want to like, but I don't want to ruin the 666- so take this as a like-
@Lunarwolf57272
@Lunarwolf57272 Год назад
31:48 deceit vs lillypatton FIGHT!
@Zipper_cookie
@Zipper_cookie Год назад
Wait, who is Janus again?
@KK-bb5ln
@KK-bb5ln 3 года назад
I noticed this watch that when Logan pops up again, Janus has a little "oh sh*t" moment-but after that, as Logan speaks, he sort of leans in, looking genuinely interested. Whether he's playing it up to make Logan feel better or if he's just actually interested, I think it's sweet how intently he's listening to Logan's info, especially given how insecure Logan's acting about it lately.
@elizakitty6579
@elizakitty6579 2 года назад
Aww that is sweet. Thanks for pointing that out!! I hadn't noticed that before Also I think it's interesting that the "light" sides listen more to Logan when the "dark" sides are involved. Especially with the color wheel theory and the foreboding orange eyes that Logan has in the latest Asides episode, hinting at "the orange side" and that, in theory, orange would be considered a "dark" side
@alexinwonderland5782
@alexinwonderland5782 2 года назад
yeah i also feel like he was getting frustrated that no one was listening to “logan” of all people. when deceit was disguised as logan you could tell he was getting annoyed. i feel like logan lowkey might be his favorite
@naan000
@naan000 2 года назад
as much as deceit seems to enjoy toying with the sides and slightly pissing them off, he does seem to have an appreciation for logan and his logical ways
@kaelin_cherise
@kaelin_cherise Год назад
@@naan000 I saw another comment that pointed this out: Deceit is not just lying. To deceive, you must know the truth to veer someone away from it. Deceit even as himself talks a lot like Logan because he needs the logic and information to make his arguments or to twist the facts in his favor.
@Thatonenerd88
@Thatonenerd88 Год назад
He hides his face and then is just like “Heyyyyyyyyy man how ya doin?” It’s Dutch an awkward and subtle gesture and it has me in tears😂
@fives_286
@fives_286 4 года назад
I’m sorry, but Roman called Janus a “Banana Conda”....
@cookievlogsandmore1923
@cookievlogsandmore1923 4 года назад
I thought he said anaconda lmfao
@fe_hann
@fe_hann 4 года назад
Janus: I don’t even like bananas ;-;
@cookievlogsandmore1923
@cookievlogsandmore1923 4 года назад
@@fe_hann O.O
@bluedayliqht7245
@bluedayliqht7245 4 года назад
@@cookievlogsandmore1923 lol it's a yellow snake
@cookievlogsandmore1923
@cookievlogsandmore1923 4 года назад
@@bluedayliqht7245 imagine avacanda
@lotuspocus1113
@lotuspocus1113 4 года назад
Janus is apart of Thomas. He asks himself, "how can we trust you?" For me that feels like, "How can I trust myself?"
@panek6443
@panek6443 4 года назад
Derpy Dragan THANK YOU? THAT’S WHAT I THOUGH!
@arkanhelle2525
@arkanhelle2525 4 года назад
Oof
@klabiaga3684
@klabiaga3684 4 года назад
Oooh darn
@nurailidepaepe2783
@nurailidepaepe2783 4 года назад
they're.. all a part of thomas..
@alterego24122
@alterego24122 4 года назад
Oh.. Ouch
@gwenpines3526
@gwenpines3526 3 года назад
that little pose Janus makes when he says "You're just stuck with a snake boi" is KILLING me
@ZK-ib2wp
@ZK-ib2wp 3 года назад
So cute lol
@scocopat457
@scocopat457 2 года назад
I have a screeshot of it
@Fynchfire
@Fynchfire Год назад
me to
@magicrainbowkitties1023
@magicrainbowkitties1023 11 месяцев назад
It is important to remember that they are all, at the end of the day, all parts of the same supremely silly individual.
@brynncess2228
@brynncess2228 6 месяцев назад
Time stamp?
@Vi_Vi_1
@Vi_Vi_1 3 года назад
I adore how Janus starts out feeling like a villain but is revealed to actually have Thomas' best interests at heart, because it's so real. Lying feels inherently evil (and can be very toxic, certainly), but usually it just stems from the desire to protect oneself. It's one of the biggest reasons victims of abuse learn to lie: they NEED to in order to keep themselves safe, and once they've escaped, realizing you don't have to lie to protect yourself anymore is so alien it can be hard to grasp.
@lenaschubert5533
@lenaschubert5533 4 года назад
„You need to unlearn that selfish is a dirty word“ LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
@cmd0317
@cmd0317 4 года назад
PREACH
@blaze5126
@blaze5126 4 года назад
I mean really, If people weren't selfish than they wouldn't be human, it's one of the things that makes people, people. They gotta get that info in their brains
@Cinnaschticks
@Cinnaschticks 3 года назад
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@aetheryourfriend4001
@aetheryourfriend4001 3 года назад
i need to unlearn that
@smolamericanbean9120
@smolamericanbean9120 3 года назад
LOUDER FOR ME CAUSE IM DEAF AF AND IGNORANT AF
@Soupslutt
@Soupslutt 4 года назад
The broken and sad look on Janus/Deceit's face when Roman was insulting him after he reveled his name is heartbreaking
@crowlowin4330
@crowlowin4330 4 года назад
And then he lashed out with something he knew would hurt Roman! It's interesting, he usually seems so put together but when he was hurt he lashed out. I love these characters so much!!!
@gloryasme
@gloryasme 4 года назад
Roman insulted Virgil's name too and when he's finally awake again in Intrusive Thoughts he refers to Remus as Dukey, I think Roman has a thing against the Others that plays into his insecurities, especially after how he reacts to what Janus hits him right after
@Jeiissleepy
@Jeiissleepy 4 года назад
Ngl that was a very teary moment
@gingerweasel
@gingerweasel 4 года назад
It also looked like he kind of regretted bringing up Remus. Like the kind of thing where you're so mad you yell at someone and it's a low blow. And as the words are coming out of your mouth, you're partially regretful but then you think, "Well, they deserved it. They were being even worse."
@connor4391
@connor4391 4 года назад
Can I get a time stamp
@lightningqueen1145
@lightningqueen1145 Год назад
Ok I JUST noticed the nod from deceit at 42:04 trying to tell Roman that Thomas is telling the truth, but because Roman doesn't trust him, he interprets it as a sign of Thomas lying.
@skelefoowey
@skelefoowey 3 года назад
Janus doesn't feel like 'Deceit' anymore. I feel like lying and maneuvering around the truth is less of a malicious aspect of his personality and more of a way to protect Thomas's. He isn't a one-dimensional embodiment of lies and trickery, he's simply the most adamant in looking out for Thomas' needs and desires. He protects his ability to think for himself and to do the things that he wants to do. Lying is only one aspect of what Janus is and what he stands for. As a whole, he's something like Thomas' guardian. I feel like Thomas started out by seeing things as they are on the surface. He saw Patton as morality and saw him as a constant force of good despite the fact that he also primarily represents emotion and Thomas's moral compass (doing good for others). as we've seen in this episode, it's clear that morality, though initially perceived as good, can be problematic and harmful to Thomas's mental health if not practiced in moderation. Roman is seen as Thomas' creativity, but he's later shown to also be his ambition, expression, and passion (which needs to be kept in check for obvious reasons). Thomas's view on morality had driven him to primarily focus on one aspect of 'creativity', which lead to the birth of the Duke, who was neglected because of what he represents. Then, there's Virgil, who carries all of Thomas's fear and doubt, who also serves as a guardian. Logan is someone who's already perceived as entirely logical and incapable of seeing things from an emotional point of view. His character was already in the gray zone rather than considered either good or bad by Thomas and/or the audience. Point is, I really appreciate this series, because you see genuine growth in the way Thomas perceives things and works through his dilemmas. Things are no longer black and white. Anxiety isn't just bad, Morality and Creativity aren't just good. If you don't approach things from every side's perspective, you'll never fully understand how you feel toward a specific dilemma you're having, especially if one side of yourself can have you believe something that could be harmful to the state of your mental health. This series is beginning to morph into the idea that nothing is one-dimensional, especially the characters living in your mind palace. I feel like future installments of this series are gonna involve fully accepting the darker aspects of your personality (like Janus, who's no longer just Deceit. He's grown into a fully three-dimensional character as soon as he was given a name not pertaining to everyone's already established preconceptions of him and his character). All in all, I adore this series with all of my heart. It feels like a therapy session and, as someone who has a good number of my own issues, I sincerely appreciate Thomas' takes on morality and selfishness. 'Kay, sorry for the essay. I'm done now lmao (2022: I didn't expect there to be so many people who'd appreciate how I see things and/or how I put it into words. I thought people would just scroll past my comment 'cause it was too long. Thanks for all the love. It definitely gave me a healthy amount of confidence when I really needed it
@mooney5564
@mooney5564 3 года назад
that was beautiful thank you
@beaclauie
@beaclauie 3 года назад
id give you a perfect score omg
@ZK-ib2wp
@ZK-ib2wp 3 года назад
A+, good job
@derpyblu1651
@derpyblu1651 2 года назад
A++++ amazing job!
@watermelonwiki3540
@watermelonwiki3540 2 года назад
(Everyone liked that)
@miareynolds1863
@miareynolds1863 4 года назад
Roman is insecure about the dark selfish parts of him. When he showed them he was criticized. So to see someone who has openly shown these parts of them get openly accepted hurts.
@izzylacroix4131
@izzylacroix4131 4 года назад
OOOHH that makes sense!!
@solessisters4848
@solessisters4848 4 года назад
Holy heck ur right
@your_local_fander3702
@your_local_fander3702 4 года назад
Wow. That is.. a good point. Imma go rethink my life
@toby4514
@toby4514 4 года назад
Mamma mia that's a good point!
@cupcakegaming882
@cupcakegaming882 4 года назад
Corrie Fleming omg your both so right!
@froststripe2865
@froststripe2865 4 года назад
Ok but why is no one talking about the fact that Virgil (who CLEARLY has BAD blood with Janus) is gonna have a STROKE when he sees Janus accepted as someone trying to help Thomas? Ohhhhh he gon be sooooo pissed he missed this episode.
@juno6397
@juno6397 4 года назад
i'm quite excited for it to be honest. I think sides can miss videos but they usually only miss most of it if deceit is involved
@Intrusivemov
@Intrusivemov 4 года назад
I’ve seen people think it’s gonna be Roman and Virgil vs Patton and Logan on if Janus should.. ‘ stay ?? ‘ I guess. Another debate would be fascinating!!
@applescotchpie3003
@applescotchpie3003 4 года назад
He's already going through enough, poor Virg
@yo6813
@yo6813 4 года назад
Also it took them SO MUCH MORE episodes for them to accept him, he is going to be so jealous/sad/heatbroken :(
@ailia7818
@ailia7818 4 года назад
@@yo6813 Woah, I didn't think about that. Now _I'm_ sad-
@liamatlas
@liamatlas 2 года назад
i feel like romans worst nightmare is being like his brother, and then cut him really deep. also he took janus’ little nod as a “hes lying” instead of a “hes telling the truth” and thats why he freaked out. he also fears abandonment/people not liking him and therefore through a tantrum. god i love lore
@KrisRN23935
@KrisRN23935 Год назад
I mean I would fear that too if my Twin was exiled.
@irene-wv6uj
@irene-wv6uj 3 года назад
thinking about how everyone shamed roman for trusting janus last time then turn around and shame him for not trusting him now. he deserves so much
@Dandelionsinthesky
@Dandelionsinthesky 2 года назад
^^^This
@Kaylee-Bear
@Kaylee-Bear Год назад
Yeah Roman deserved better. I might love Janus, but Roman deserves the world. Patton seems to unintentionally be causing a lot of issues he needs to be held accountable for...
@tonyal8839
@tonyal8839 Год назад
both times roman was acting extremely selfish for his own views
@notbubblystarters05
@notbubblystarters05 11 месяцев назад
It's always situational, but yeah. Definitely could be better on both sides.
@happyflowerdemon8565
@happyflowerdemon8565 9 месяцев назад
@@notbubblystarters05 Yeah. Though it was wrong of Janus to insult Roman like that. I mean I doubt that he doesn't know what hurts the sides. Roman does have things to work on. Just like Thomas, the sides are all learning that it's okay to have your mind work the way it does. It's okay to have anxiety, it's okay to lie sometimes, it's okay to be sad, and it's okay to have intrusive thoughts. I feel like for the longest time, Thomas has despised his lies, anxiety, and intrusive thoughts, thus despising their embodiments; Janus, Virgil, and Remus, which is probably why they are considered the darksides. Roman is a prince, Thomas' hero. Thus Roman feels like part of his job is protecting Thomas from anyone who could hurt him. He probably feels like he needs to protect the other sides too. For the longest time, Janus, Remus, and Virgil were the villains that he and the light sides, had to protect Thomas from. I think it's gonna take time for Roman to except Janus. Also Roman mentions, in another video, that he shows his love through making fun of the person or thing he loves. Mabie he was trying to show support in the end by making fun of Janus' name, but it failed. Though he might have just been being rude. I do feel like if the first one is the case, that Roman needs to learn when and when its not, okay to show love by making fun of something. Because I can see why Janus and the others we're seeing him as being rude. I mean Roman did just call him a villain and also there is the most likely case that Roman was just being immature. But honestly I think everyone just needs time.
@spadehenri8300
@spadehenri8300 4 года назад
Literally everyone is gonna ignore the fact that Leslie Odom Jr. himself literally made an appearance in the video and they only made one hamilton reference
@hummingbirdspark3998
@hummingbirdspark3998 4 года назад
Spade Strange wait when
@earltaboada
@earltaboada 4 года назад
Yes when
@Callordin
@Callordin 4 года назад
You couldn't give starving, down in his luck actor Leslie Odom Jr. A hotdog's worth of lines and screen time? How very dare! I'm playing, bless y'all for this
@spadehenri8300
@spadehenri8300 4 года назад
@@earltaboada Roman referred to him as Aaron Burr 32:34
@juliannaagoncillo6090
@juliannaagoncillo6090 4 года назад
....technically 2. Check The Mind Vs. the Heart and My Negative Thinking
@tylajoanne2453
@tylajoanne2453 4 года назад
After Roman leaves- I’m just imagining him and Virgil hiding out like under the bed watching The Nightmare Before Christmas and avoiding everyone.
@pauliner9444
@pauliner9444 4 года назад
That's actually so cute omg-
@thatuzikinnie6077
@thatuzikinnie6077 4 года назад
*why is that so cute.* I don't even support the ship alot but that sounds adorable :0
@RoseIsAnnoyedAtTheHandle
@RoseIsAnnoyedAtTheHandle 4 года назад
Princexeity everybody! (I hope I spelled it right) And I thought more like he went and hidden in his room "locking" it and hides under something sothat IF somebody came he is hidden or "gone"
@marquis911
@marquis911 4 года назад
6 feet apart because they're cautious.
@reese8659
@reese8659 4 года назад
Omg that’s adorable
@apjtv2540
@apjtv2540 Год назад
I read a quote the other day that reminded me of this video: "Selfishness is not evil by nature. How could it be evil to love yourself?" Edit: And another thing, as I've just noticed. Roman was described by Logan as "welcome" creativity. In other words, he's creativity inspired by things like Disney, the family friendly stuff. So it's his very nature to see Janus as evil. His focus on Disney isn't an accident by Thomas. In most Disney films, the villains are pure evil and they don't redeem themselves. Janus started as a villain, so Roman will see him as such.
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis Год назад
oooooo wow! i LOVE that quote. Very Janus-y!
@mushroomhat6030
@mushroomhat6030 3 года назад
Roman: "Well when is it enough??" *Dramatic music plays* Janus: ". . . . . Trees . . ?" *more dramatic music plays*
@PDragonBaby
@PDragonBaby Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@coyotix
@coyotix Год назад
it's giving that one scene in working through intrusive thoughts with the hot dog
@Water_9826
@Water_9826 4 года назад
Remus and Virgil: *This video games sucks*
@mvzcn
@mvzcn 4 года назад
Yup
@MajazMIK
@MajazMIK 4 года назад
Yes yes yes not fair to them
@keekskage3490
@keekskage3490 4 года назад
Water9826 Bottle omg yes 😂
@Random_topic.s
@Random_topic.s 4 года назад
Oml yes
@slushyphantom5943
@slushyphantom5943 4 года назад
LMFAO YES
@sienasalittlelost8056
@sienasalittlelost8056 4 года назад
roman: WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HELP THOMAS? janus: *BECAUSE IM ONE OF THE IDIOTS WHO LIVES IN HIM*
@whitejadin7157
@whitejadin7157 4 года назад
Lmao gotg meme
@hosuh_artz4007
@hosuh_artz4007 4 года назад
Funny
@Themtaters618
@Themtaters618 4 года назад
K
@quigly5058
@quigly5058 4 года назад
Lmaooooo thats something he would say tho
@LovelyGhostz
@LovelyGhostz 4 года назад
Yo like-
@darkcadk
@darkcadk 2 года назад
I really like how when Janus wanted them to trust him, he gave them his name, just like when Virgil started trusting them he gave his name. I'm starting to feel like names are a big thing to the Dark Sides (Except Remus, but he's a special muffin)
@darkcadk
@darkcadk 2 года назад
But if he isn't on his redemption arc yet, it may be simply for them to feel sympathy, because that's what Virgil did, so he's playing into their senses
@yeseniasanchez2739
@yeseniasanchez2739 Год назад
To add on to this I think it's because they are treat the bad guy. Much like real life people hide and lack trust towards other if all their life they are made to believe to be a bad person. The on thing people can do in order to protect themselves is their identity and involvement.
@fightingknight2360
@fightingknight2360 10 месяцев назад
Actually, I interpreted that as Remus already having some form of trust in them. He said he had no reason to lie to Thomas. But you aren’t wrong about him being a special muffin lol
@darkestlight660
@darkestlight660 9 месяцев назад
@@darkcadk well, I don't personally think deceit is ever really a necessarily bad thing. I think *most* people would agree lying to the serial killer to help your friend isn't a moral evil. In my opinion it comes down to a mix of why and the potential outcome. Lying is a tool, you can use to harm others, or to try to help others That tool can easily corrupt however whenever we try to justify helping ourselves with the illusion of helping others, aka, a lot of times "I just want to spare their feelings" is, "I don't want to take responsibility". On the other hand, lying for yourself isn't necessarily bad- if people want to hurt you or others, that's an obvious example. But feeling uncomfortable and telling a small lie say, about not wanting to hang out with someone but you don't want to explain why so you say you feel sick- I wouldn't say that's evil either. It's nuanced and complicated, as most moral questions are
@helloitsme472
@helloitsme472 4 месяца назад
​@@darkcadksorry I know your comment is a year old but, respectfully, did you actually watch the video? like really watch it? Janus isn't really the embodiment of deceitfulness that we've been lead to think he is by this point in the narrative. it's more accurate to say that he the embodiment of selfishness, where Patton is the embodiment of selflessness i.e. this name of this episode AND the one that lead into this one; as we've learnt from this episode, selfishness is not inherently evil or wicked, it is NECESSARY for your own survival. I know the two are shipped together a lot, but Janus is, objectively, much lass harmful than Remus, and I think them being shipped together so much has given people the wrong idea about Janus as a character. This entire episode exists to justify why EVERYONE has the capacity to lie and be selfish. tl;dr Janus is not playing into everyone's sensitivities (when he speaks he is almost always being truthful) and is only trying to help Thomas in the way that he knows how: by placing Thomas first (Patton tries to keep him morally righteous, Logan gets him to be scheduled and think logically etc.)
@whilenya4714
@whilenya4714 3 года назад
37:07 to 37:09. Just… Janus' _face,_ realizing Logan isn't here to shut him down and kick him out like nearing the end of SvS, but is actually in a roundabout way _validating what Janus himself said._ This is precious and hindsight is 20/20.
@PDragonBaby
@PDragonBaby Год назад
YES
@Fynchfire
@Fynchfire Год назад
yeah
@mousestar369
@mousestar369 9 месяцев назад
Just went back to take a second look at that. There is excitement in that expression. He smiles. He's been validated for what could be the first time in a very long time (possibly most of Thomas's life)
@athasyanaila1615
@athasyanaila1615 4 года назад
Nobody is choosing Deceit's side over anyone's, it's just like realizing he deserves a seat at the table. Why was it easier to accept anxiety than this, Roman? ps his face when he was accused of being the evil twin *i was ready to throw hands*
@hummingbirdspark3998
@hummingbirdspark3998 4 года назад
Sanders Sides!
@Realisticallyliteral
@Realisticallyliteral 4 года назад
Let's not forget that Roman was actually very hostile towards Virgil for *a long time*
@larissamota1718
@larissamota1718 4 года назад
Yeah, like Luke mentioned above, it was actually very hard for Roman to accept Virgil. He only did it after Virgil left and he was forced to realize that Anxiety also needed to be taken into account.
@chasepinheiro6476
@chasepinheiro6476 4 года назад
He’s also in love with Virgil😤
@The_Black_Rose_94
@The_Black_Rose_94 4 года назад
He realized it once he listened to what Virgils thought process and reasoning for ehat ge was doing was. Purely protecting Thomas and any Hero can get behind that. But Roman and Janus has been nothing but clash and roman contantly feel for Janus's lies so i think Roman feels wronged by Janus
@retcho212
@retcho212 4 года назад
Watching Janus’s hurt expressions when Roman called him evil hurt me, it made me cry. Janus is the Roman god of passages, gates and doors. He was often depicted with two faces. Deceit has two faces. Deceit/Janus is doing his best to protect and guide.
@idontwanttotellyou2554
@idontwanttotellyou2554 4 года назад
Oh neat to know! I was confused bc I thought it was "Janice" like from the good place. I just thought "how does that apply here?"
@scapegoatcomics6168
@scapegoatcomics6168 4 года назад
Yeah, Janus has found an element of acceptance where his function is seen as valid and as a show of good faith he reveals his name...and Roman laughs, but unlike with Virgil revealing his name it's not funny or played as such. This time Roman has gone too far, and everyone makes sure he knows it. And just like that this moral absolutism he was clinging onto just got punched in the face
@nobinary2296
@nobinary2296 4 года назад
I liked Deceit the moment he was introduced. I too know Roman mythology. But what I thought about was how deceit isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can often be used to protect yourself. Like in the Court room episode. He was deceiving Thomas at first, but only for Thomas's own best interests. Deceit can be your own body protecting you, mentally and/or physically. Convincing yourself you did the right thing or lying to get out of a bad/potentially dangerous situation. I also wonder how long he's been there? Like for all we know he could have been a part of every episode. I also see bits of Logan and Patton in him. He isn't just Patton's other more adult moral side. He also gathers facts and information to make well informed arguments, unlike Patton, but more like Logan. He can also play a bit into Virgil's paranoia. Because whatever Thomas is worried about makes Deceit come out of the woodworks to better protect Thomas as he is also Thomas's biggest protector. I don't think Virgil or any of the others sees the amount of respect Deceit has for them as a whole. I mean, Roman doesn't count, because he's being a bit of a bully. But I think Janus was being genuine when he said he admired Roman's selfless act, sacrificing his own needs, and sentencing Thomas to the wedding. Though he didn't like being seen as a softie so he covered it up with a lie at the end that ended up sparking an argument between him and Roman. I think we're going to Roman's room soon. Roman is showing a lot of doubts, insecurities that he was clearly showing through out the video, and the last few minutes might have seemed like a betrayal to him. Making him step out in a way similar to how Virgil did. It will then be him and Janus reconciling because he never meant to genuinely hurt him. You can see him back pedal when he thinks he's gone too far, especially with Patton. He even defends Patton in their battle. That's my theory at least.
@retcho212
@retcho212 4 года назад
I don't want to tell you I mean it could’ve been Janice and not Janus and Mr.Sanders is just having a good laugh
@bumbabees
@bumbabees Год назад
as someone with depression, I really appreciate Janus saying "mental health should be regarded with the same life or death attitude as physical health." my struggles weren't taken seriously until I was put in the hospital because of it and that's, quite frankly, unacceptable. that's why I refer to my condition as an illness. because like a physical illness, if I don't manage it, it could kill me. it's really important that more people understand that.
@zacharynguyen7286
@zacharynguyen7286 Месяц назад
Hope you’re doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️
@felix-dp7xg
@felix-dp7xg Год назад
Okay but can we appreciate that in his inventory he has everything needed for pattoncake
@nerd_liv
@nerd_liv Год назад
OMG YES
@Unidentified952
@Unidentified952 Год назад
Omg
@JustMe-mf5ms
@JustMe-mf5ms Год назад
Wdym?
@Unidentified952
@Unidentified952 Год назад
@@JustMe-mf5ms in one of the previous videos, when Patton reveals his name, it’s a pun as one should only expect. Instead of pattycake, it’s pattoncake. there’s a variety of items needed for the game, and all of those are in his characters inventory in this video! Hope that helps, and sorry I can’t remember the exact video 😅
@imperialdrone6261
@imperialdrone6261 3 года назад
Thomas being worried about his blinds is peak gay.
@MegaKhelditia
@MegaKhelditia 3 года назад
Thomas being is peak gay
@stranguhh2878
@stranguhh2878 3 года назад
All of Virgil's nicknames ever given to him: 1. Dark stormy knight 2. Creepy cookie 3 .Brad pitiful 4. Worry wart 5. Friendo 6. Panic at the everywhere 7. Jack smellington 8. Incredible sulk 9. Charlie frown 10. Virge 11. Robert downy junior 12. Shadowy but angelic song bird 13. Kamlia the chicken 14. Vomity central 15. A mean one 16. Kylo friends 17. Bat winged cherob 18. One angry man over there 19. Perp man 20.Sunshine 21. Emo 22. Emo nightmare 23. Hot topic 24. Wet blanket 25. Chemically unbalanced romance 26. Negitave Nancy 27. Jason toddler 28. Jerky mcjerk face 29. Supreme dark overlord of negitave comers 30. Sirly temple 31. J Delightful 32. Dr gloom 33. Fairest of them all 34. Count woaloft 35. Marilyn Monrose 36. Sweet and sour misunderstood shadowling 37. Poor little anxious baby There's a lot😂 Also most of these are from Roman which I love😂
@constancecurrier6153
@constancecurrier6153 3 года назад
eh, could be gayer
@adelialafayette3823
@adelialafayette3823 3 года назад
@@stranguhh2878 I was literally going to say "Most of those were by Roman" but then I saw you already said it haha
@REL_234
@REL_234 4 года назад
Theory: The reason Virgil wasn't present in this episode is because Patton's answers all shown uncertainty. Virgil didn't need to appear because Patton was already anxious himself. While Virgil is the main source of anxiety, Patton has shown that the other sides are capable of showing other emotions than what they represent
@j.mchim1013
@j.mchim1013 4 года назад
I think it's because he told Thomas that he was a dark side in dwit, which was the last Sander Sides, the Sanders Asides is another series, and is different, so that is my theory. Virgil didn't show up because he told Thomas he was a dark side.
@forgemakesstuff2734
@forgemakesstuff2734 4 года назад
Also he got stuck with babysitting remus duty
@purpleisraiyen
@purpleisraiyen 4 года назад
Oh My Gosh *this makes sense* *but also I’m worried,* *PATTON anxious?* *_makes me anxious._*
@blutow8402
@blutow8402 4 года назад
Or he was trying to beat Roman's high score on just dance with Remus
@eliseok1523
@eliseok1523 4 года назад
Maybe virgils actor was sick? 🤔
@ArchyMageFoxy
@ArchyMageFoxy 2 года назад
That fight between Patton and Janus... It shows very clearly that Janus is more than just Thomas' deception. He's also his self-preservation and self care. Even in the court room scenario he wasn't saying "be selfish because why tf not", he was more so saying 'It's fine to be selfish every once in awhile, it's *needed*". Janus is easily my favourite character, and his theme is just amazing~ I also find it really sad how, Roman isn't even trying to look past Janus being "Deceit". Lies is all he ever see's in him, and it's sad. Very well written story don't get me wrong! Just... Yeah :/
@lpsshortcake3790
@lpsshortcake3790 2 года назад
I agree, to be fair though, for the first two videos with Janus Roman was on his side, defending him and the conclusion was Janus was evil, siding with him was criticised, now he's the only one in the video not siding with him. Plus, Janus lied to him to butter him up and used him to better his deception, so he's less likely to trust him. Still not cool laughing at his name though and Janus does obviously have Thomas's best interests at heart, I can just kind of see where Roman is coming from is all
@ArchyMageFoxy
@ArchyMageFoxy 2 года назад
@@lpsshortcake3790 You make a good point. I can see wheres he coming from too.
@Hannah4765
@Hannah4765 Год назад
It also sticks with Roman's character; he was the last "Light" side to accept Virgil as well. He very much embodies the "we're Light and good, you're Dark and bad" argument as a hero would to those he sees as villains. And he seems to see Remus as HIS dark side, rather than one of Thomas' "it's like looking in a fun house mirror". I'm glad that this has been consistent with Roman as a character and it's a great arc for him.
@anonymouslymj1064
@anonymouslymj1064 Год назад
@@lpsshortcake3790 yeah the fact that Janus manipulated Roman in the last video (which is actually pretty much stated by Roman here) and most people just gloss over it doesn’t sit right with me. If somebody had toyed with me if I had a fragile mental state and ultimately harmed me for their own purposes, no matter how virtuous, I’d be pretty pissed at them too.
@_primrse_1252
@_primrse_1252 3 года назад
Janus: - reveals his name - Everyone: ..... Roman: - starts laughing - Janus:- completely ruins his self esteem -
@flower_productions7213
@flower_productions7213 3 года назад
Janus: Woke up Had some wine (he probably drinks it) And chose: *Self-Esteem destruction*
@Fili9521
@Fili9521 Год назад
To be fair it is pretty shitty to make fun of other people's name (no hate on roman it was just mean)
@Teahillmusic
@Teahillmusic Год назад
Oh rewatching this I actually realised something the ones connected to the dark sides all have Roman names Janus- two faced god of lies and gateways(pretty sure) Remus- one of Romes founders with his brother Romulus(Roman) And Vergil a poet who criticised those in power in his works
@lollipop-nt8lx
@lollipop-nt8lx 4 года назад
When Patton is grabbing Lee and Mary Lee from his inventory you can see that he also has 2 cookies. Guess he was feeling dangerous that day.
@echo_va
@echo_va 4 года назад
Did you notice that inventory is from Stardew Valley? No? Just me then ;-;
@kj_ocho
@kj_ocho 4 года назад
5. . . Second. . . Cookies
@quigly5058
@quigly5058 4 года назад
Hes a danger boi
@LovelyGhostz
@LovelyGhostz 4 года назад
OMG YAS
@khushik3899
@khushik3899 4 года назад
there are also a bunch of references to patton-cake
@bi_beans9011
@bi_beans9011 4 года назад
IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE HIS NAME IS JANUS JANUS IS THE GOD OF CHOICES AND IS LITERALLY TWOFACED
@dualitysDownfall
@dualitysDownfall 4 года назад
the galaxy-brain naming in this series....
@pikaphin3335
@pikaphin3335 4 года назад
Ohmygosh that is brilliant, thank you for telling us!!
@greg4lifers145
@greg4lifers145 4 года назад
oh my g o d .
@esora2476
@esora2476 4 года назад
AND HIS LOGO HAS TWO HEADS ITS SUCH A GOOD NAME IM SCREAMING
@starsnatcher4659
@starsnatcher4659 4 года назад
I FORGOOTT THATS SO SMART
@whilenya4714
@whilenya4714 3 года назад
Janus posing as Logan: " …Having heard a piece of information before _does not give you license to ignore it in the future._ Especially when the consequences of forgetting are so perilous. " Wait. Is J here (27:37 - 27:46) low-key passive aggressively calling them out for ignoring Logan (Logic, y'know, _Common Sense™)_ so hard all the time when he's talking about maintaining a healthy lifestyle that Deceit _(Self-preservation)_ of all people had to step up in his stead? Because if so, I am all for it. Go off, snek boi, go off!
@whilenya4714
@whilenya4714 3 года назад
Janus posing as Logan at 27:55, looking downward from his spot in the info-box portrait like he's questioning his life choices after Patton all but told him his advice wasn't worth anything to the current conversation and Roman cut him off just as he was about to say something. This is Janus having realized he is not being HIMSELF at the moment yet they're STILL dismissing him without a second thought even if not quite as outright, and that the methods used to shut him down being subtler might feel worse. Currently identifying _way too much_ with Logan's continued struggle to make himself heard and internalizing just how hard poor Logan actually has it when trying to be listened to too. I think this is the moment when he started to regret taking Logan's place during this video, if he didn't already. (And, by the way he acts so done with their sh*t after this moment as well as the passive aggression towards people's important contributions being ignored _rolling off_ of the way he framed his advice just before this together with his response of "Nothing at all _and I resent the question"_ to "What did you do to Logan?!" as coupled with his initial concerned/guilty "Oh sh*t" reaction at seeing Logan more or less in person later, I think there might've been an important if awkward off-screen conversation there that we missed spanning from when they swapped at 23:20 to J showing up in disguise at 26:45. One involving Logan being so done he might've greenlighted this post hostile takeover. Which, that still probably involved Logan lashing out first or simply thinking it wouldn't make a difference, since it's already a given they won't listen to Dee either if he's posing as _Logan._ Then lo and behold they actually _do._ And it feels nice of course, but also Janus has mixed feeling about it now whoops. Apologies are in definitely order after this, if they weren't a given already.)
@viav.velvieb2730
@viav.velvieb2730 4 года назад
Who else freaked out and went crazy when Janus made a weird/adorable face. And said that he was stuck with a snake boy. Because I could barely keep it together.
@avacado7369
@avacado7369 4 года назад
Hamilton Rules Y E S
@jai8544
@jai8544 4 года назад
Me!
@rainyday471
@rainyday471 4 года назад
You mean Janus? Edit: I was just joking.
@Waffle-ch2qr
@Waffle-ch2qr 4 года назад
Yessss
@04Fantasy
@04Fantasy 4 года назад
Me!!🍪
@rosesareredvioletsblue5438
@rosesareredvioletsblue5438 4 года назад
Janus: **raises hand to show that he's telling the truth** Me, an idiot: wait is his name written on his hand
@ayleth891
@ayleth891 4 года назад
Same
@cottonhead7166
@cottonhead7166 4 года назад
Omg I thought the same thing to XD
@shadowdragon2122
@shadowdragon2122 4 года назад
Same xD
@clytieapollo
@clytieapollo 4 года назад
😁 part of the squad too 🙋
@impiish5414
@impiish5414 4 года назад
Hand reveal squad
@sammadden9931
@sammadden9931 2 года назад
It has taken until *now* for me to notice that the hooked cane used to pull Logan away is the same as the one that Janus is holding when he reveals himself. HOW DID I MISS THIS?
@Bgdf007
@Bgdf007 Год назад
I've been scrolling in the comments trying to find someone who noticed like me. I'm watching this instead of skipping to find all of Logan's lowdowns to actually let him be listened to and I noticed it right away, lol.
@seandonahoe3495
@seandonahoe3495 10 месяцев назад
​@@Bgdf007I was also looking to see if anyone else noticed this
@MorbidMacabre
@MorbidMacabre Год назад
I'm rewatching all of these again and realizing Janus actually looked kinda hurt when Roman said they couldn't trust him near the end 😭
@thegriffin2135
@thegriffin2135 4 года назад
So it’s been proven that Janus can lie very convincingly, but there are times when he is saying things that are clearly lies in an obvious tone. Does this mean that he is just automatically compelled to lie and has to use a sarcastic tone to let Thomas and the others know the subtext in his speech when he physically can’t state his true intentions? Idk, just a thought I had
@throwaway1693
@throwaway1693 4 года назад
The Griffin in the last selfishness vs selflessness he did have trouble not lying about the color of Thomas’s shirt but idk if that was just for jokes or for plot
@bookworm_of_heaven
@bookworm_of_heaven 4 года назад
I think that he can actually tell the truth but is just so used to lying by now that it’s kinda hard for him not to
@elliottaylor1290
@elliottaylor1290 4 года назад
I've been thinking that too. I think he can tell a direct truth if he tries really really hard but like forgive him if he doesn't want to use up so much energy for every conversation. Instead he works around it by either being sarcastic or picking his wording very carfully. In SvS they're talking about how Thomas is a good person because he has Patton. Janus hezitates and it looks like he's carefully picking what to say while the others talk before saying, "you know who else is here? Me. So *perhaps* Thomas isn't so innocent?" He worded it the way he did because technically asking a question and then answering it himself isn't telling a truth. He didn't say 'Im here too'. And he says perhaps. He knows Thomas isn't perfect but he still leaves it as a maybe because then that isn't telling a direct truth. Obviously that's just an example but for most of his dialogue that's not direct lies or sarcasm it's a little bit like that
@nothingtoseehere5678
@nothingtoseehere5678 4 года назад
It seems like he can tell the truth as well as any side but is extremely sarcastic and will throw in lies purely for the aesthetic~*
@shelbyteague7928
@shelbyteague7928 4 года назад
NothingToSeeHere that’s my thought too, he’s definitely capable of telling the truth, but sarcasm is his brand
@anniplenge1200
@anniplenge1200 4 года назад
Virgil after he finds out that Thomas and Patton accepted Janus: What the gosh darn diddly dang f*ck happened while I was playing Just Dance?
@arbsallaku6478
@arbsallaku6478 4 года назад
Im imagining virgil in michel jackson clothes doing the moonwalk and seing patton janus and thomas talking and being like:IM NOT BRAVE ENOUGH FOR DIS and sturts runinig
@percy2940
@percy2940 4 года назад
BEST COMMENT BY FAR
@dabuff1319
@dabuff1319 4 года назад
I think logan was busy keeping him from self destructing from all the anxiety.
@tristana1660
@tristana1660 4 года назад
Took them a whole episode to accept Virgil and not even ten minutes for Janus
@mickycoetzee1385
@mickycoetzee1385 4 года назад
Why Just Dance though xD
@frog137
@frog137 3 года назад
“I always thought that sort of language was .... ineffable.” Flashbacks to Good Omens
@lasanya_galang13
@lasanya_galang13 2 года назад
I was looking for this
@naan000
@naan000 2 года назад
glad to see i'm not the only one
@sailorenthusiast
@sailorenthusiast Год назад
Just making a personal note that Janus’ logo was labeled Denial at 20:22.
@coyotix
@coyotix Год назад
Roman's was Passion
@embodimentofawkwardness7734
And Logan's wasn't gone over at all...does it mean he's not necessarily logic and they're hiding it?
@theboogeyman2590
@theboogeyman2590 5 месяцев назад
@@embodimentofawkwardness7734they did go over his, his said logic except they very quickly moved away from his icon
@theboogeyman2590
@theboogeyman2590 4 года назад
Janus going back to the mind palace be like: Janus: Virgil, I get why you didn’t want to share your name now. Virgil: so he laughed at yours too? Janus: **makes ‘duh’ face**
@charsiupau20
@charsiupau20 4 года назад
Poor boys
@malixnant
@malixnant 4 года назад
Shadow Monster In Your Closet it rly be like that doe
@Destroyer-mm9rl
@Destroyer-mm9rl 4 года назад
omg yes 😂😂
@emi2664
@emi2664 4 года назад
aw :,)(
@grisbel7836
@grisbel7836 4 года назад
Cute
@sunnyDee_
@sunnyDee_ 4 года назад
I don’t care if this isn’t a movie, it needs ALL of the oscars
@abrielleelysee7991
@abrielleelysee7991 4 года назад
Ikr
@jadatar
@jadatar 4 года назад
DAMN RIGHT IT DOES THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS IS DAZZLING!!!
@abrielleelysee7991
@abrielleelysee7991 4 года назад
I again agree with this statement
@isabellajgz
@isabellajgz 4 года назад
Yeah all the sides should get Oscars- oh wait they're all one person
@emmysparks7307
@emmysparks7307 4 года назад
it basically is a movie
@alexjewett7455
@alexjewett7455 2 года назад
I like Janus's character development. He goes from a sinister scooby doo villain to a slightly sketchy ally.
@lakotathetimelord
@lakotathetimelord Год назад
Brooooo! How did I only just notice how smooth the transition from Logan's voice to Janus' voice was??!!?!! THAT WAS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!
@jocelynnmoquin2535
@jocelynnmoquin2535 4 года назад
When Thomas did his first vine dressing as a dad I wonder if he ever thought that character would become a animated frog final boss having a moral crisis
@imadoor2205
@imadoor2205 4 года назад
Lol would you 🤣
@cobalt_bold
@cobalt_bold 4 года назад
He knew it all along!~
@ZuMii_Idled
@ZuMii_Idled 4 года назад
It's 1:14 AM and I'm holding myself back.
@opie1kenop134
@opie1kenop134 4 года назад
😂😂
@userr_paradoxx
@userr_paradoxx 4 года назад
Isabella Madore I totally would think about it if I did XD
@Lemonboyartss
@Lemonboyartss 4 года назад
"We love you kiddo" "Right.." WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS
@Lemonboyartss
@Lemonboyartss 4 года назад
Timestamp: 42:23
@lovelyaristotle4983
@lovelyaristotle4983 4 года назад
I’ll thank about it! *It made me sad*
@weirdcatcoaster1237
@weirdcatcoaster1237 4 года назад
Looks like someone’s slowly having a mental breakdown
@divineichor7079
@divineichor7079 4 года назад
@@weirdcatcoaster1237 Yes. We need that juicy Roman angst.
@Lemonboyartss
@Lemonboyartss 4 года назад
@@divineichor7079 YES THAT ROMAN ANGST IS WHAT WE NEED
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos 3 года назад
I like how the Dark Sides care about Thomas as the normal Sides
@rosette4268
@rosette4268 3 года назад
I mean they are still a part of him
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos 3 года назад
@@rosette4268 what I mean is they don't try to corrupt him. They care about him and look after him to the best of their abilities, despite being the worst Sides of him. I hope this comes up later as a plot twist or something.
@rosette4268
@rosette4268 3 года назад
@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos hm
@TheNinthGenerarion
@TheNinthGenerarion 2 года назад
@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos well, maybe not Remus, he’s just out to get Thomas to indulge in every possible fantasy
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos
@GoodNeutralEvilChaos 2 года назад
@@TheNinthGenerarion yea, found *that* out in his latest episode.
@Ghostie-Tempura
@Ghostie-Tempura 2 года назад
I realized something here. Thomas, Roman, and Patton have all been kahoots this whole discussion. That was until Janus showed up and showed himself when things finally went back together. Now remember during Virgil's arc of him disappearing? They were all in kahoots with Thomas lacking anxiety. He was a disaster to say the least. So that means they literally can't have a full discussion without having a dark side nearby to stabilize the conversation, as Logan said, Virgil has a bigger part into Thomas' life than just being his anxiety. And seeing as Janus was the one to calm Thomas down by saying that it's okay for him to be selfish, it's rather interesting. This theory is really out there but Ehhhhhh.
@PDragonBaby
@PDragonBaby Год назад
The 1st ep was alright But ye the lights are definitely a lot more chaotic and all over the place when they haven't got the common sense around (janus) or just want to get rid of something (ree)
@simoncarter8190
@simoncarter8190 6 месяцев назад
If you want to expand on that... this series as a whole is effectively presenting case after case of Thomas not being able to solve his problems without hearing from as many people as he can. Obviously, he doesn't get to hear from *everyone*, *all the time*, but the later episodes especially are fantastic cases of this. If we ignore: "Way Too Adult" "Taking on Anxiety (with Lilly Singh)" "The Dark Side of Disney" "The Mind vs. The Heart" and "My Negative Thinking", then every episode has most of the sides that we know of. Remus doesn't show up a whole lot to begin with because we only know him for his dirty mouth, dirty mind, and dirty thoughts that he imposes on Thomas from time to time, which is obviously a very specific problem. And Janus didn't show up a whole lot before his redemption arc, either, so you could argue Remus's absence from most episodes after his first appearance isn't that important. POINT BEING, Logan said that Virgil plays a bigger role in Thomas's life than just being his anxiety, and in this episode, we learn that that's also true for Janus. I don't think we can say the same for Remus (at least not yet, idk what Thomas has up his sleeve), but it's certainly true that both Virgil and Janus represent facets of humanity that are generally perceived by society as hindrances, when in reality, it's helpful and even necessary to give one or both of them a seat at the Socratic Table, so to speak. Even if it's something small, like auditioning for a role... anxiety may tell you that you won't get it no matter how hard you try, or it may tell you that getting it involves a lot of work and only it knows how much work it'll take. Deceit (or whatever Janus actually represents) would tell you to put in that work, no matter how much it may be, for the sake of protecting your reputation, your self-confidence, and possibly your future if your career depends on it. This series really is about Thomas figuring himself out... all of the sides have gotten a whole lot more complex and at the same time more specific since the start of the series. In earlier episodes, you could argue that Anxiety and Deceit were the same person; Deceit only became a separate side because Thomas questioned whether it was worth lying to people to preserve himself, which also happens to be Virgil's goal (as this series interprets anxiety). Patton also got a WHOLE lot of development in this episode; his realization that he doesn't have all the right and wrong answers of the world is Thomas's realizing that morality is a whole lot more complex than "Don't kill, don't steal". 10 out of 10 episode right here.
@hildcit
@hildcit 5 месяцев назад
@@simoncarter8190this and the og comment had some great commentary and food for thought and I just wanna let you both know that
@skykrasher4475
@skykrasher4475 3 года назад
There is no way Roman is coming out of this without trust issues.
@multiplefandomlover7179
@multiplefandomlover7179 3 года назад
I think Roman already had trust issues, if you're being honest.
@smallballadeer
@smallballadeer 3 года назад
Multiple Fandom Lover This just made them more intense and visible to the other sides most likely.
@roberthrenko5466
@roberthrenko5466 3 года назад
just more angst to feed off of
@djg731
@djg731 3 года назад
Is these an are there healthy distractions reference
@midnights2631
@midnights2631 3 года назад
Everyone is having trust issues
@cisnt9244
@cisnt9244 4 года назад
We all care that Logan's okay, we all stopped to read his facts..poor buddy.
@flwrsofbffnry
@flwrsofbffnry 4 года назад
I did indeed pause to read his facts. Poor Logan :c
@RavenRoses88
@RavenRoses88 4 года назад
Eriotl Ampora omg I thought I was the only one who stopped to read it
@holly3330
@holly3330 4 года назад
Same, I paused just cause I wanted to know what it was.
@Callordin
@Callordin 4 года назад
I mean Logan brought the T and I was thirsty. If you know what I mean. Why is Remus wiggling his eyebrows like that?
@WatermelonLord_
@WatermelonLord_ 4 года назад
Im another person who stopped to read his facts! And this video was sooooo emotional.
@DizzleDoodles
@DizzleDoodles 3 года назад
"But when is it enough?!" "...trees???" This is why we love Janus
@EnderTheIdiot
@EnderTheIdiot Год назад
Yes
@Unidentified952
@Unidentified952 Год назад
Yes 😂
@thespeedyyoshi
@thespeedyyoshi Год назад
40:07 HAHAHA I love this part 😂😂
@veeranummila9113
@veeranummila9113 Год назад
45:34 "-And it's (Deceit being a part of Thomas) not that I'm an evil liar, or even a fractionally fiendish fibber. Everyone has a capacity for deceit, including me. And all that means is... I'm not perfect." Love how at the end they straight out call Janus's whole existence an imperfection TO HIS FACE! And then he just hides it because he is literally Deceit and can probably hide his feelings pretty easily. Damn. Time to go think about this for the rest of the night.
@kierstenchaney4197
@kierstenchaney4197 Год назад
THANK YOU! I was thinking the exact same thing, I literally said to myself, "Did he just call Deceit a mistake??". I'm hoping that, much like Virgil called out the time Logan implied he was a 'defeatist' (I forget which episode), Janus will make a callback (no pun intended) to this line.
@happyflowerdemon8565
@happyflowerdemon8565 9 месяцев назад
Eh I don't think Janus would be too affected by this line. He knows that humans are not perfect and are not supposed to be. He's just finally making Thomas realize that.
@coolguyfandom
@coolguyfandom 4 года назад
You can tell Thomas has been getting more comfortable with some topics with us, the religion jokes, swears, he wouldn't do this before, but uh these ideas are AWESOME, the 8-bit songs, the graphics that are everywhere now, and call backs, I would never complain
@neon.pink.productions
@neon.pink.productions 4 года назад
Same, totally agree.
@lunastarseeker5288
@lunastarseeker5288 4 года назад
"you're not stuck with an evil snake boi." **smug grin** "You're stuck with *a* snake boi" - Janice, 2020
@ThatGuy-zh7jl
@ThatGuy-zh7jl 4 года назад
Allyson Moore Janus
@bucket8906
@bucket8906 4 года назад
After the greek god of lies
@kornflakez1405
@kornflakez1405 4 года назад
@@bucket8906 Huh?
@cckarissa14
@cckarissa14 4 года назад
Lol
@Jayup
@Jayup 4 года назад
AdoniZylle 1261 yeah the way all the names tie together is amazing
@IDKAnymoreOfficial
@IDKAnymoreOfficial Год назад
I love the fact that it changes from Deceit and Payton fighting each other, to just Thomas’s mental health. And also, looking back, I realize that everything is about all the other sides and barely about Roman. It’s Virgil this, Patton that, Logan this, Remus that, Janus this and etc. Everyone views Roman as some annoying characteristic of a stereotypical hero, so that is what he is. No one is giving him any sort of ear to listen to how he feels unloved and left out, no matter how hard he tried to voice that and I realize that now, Roman has feelings himself. It’s like being the funny friend, and yet you yourself make yourself the “funny friend” to ignore what’s hurting you. They see him as the funny friend and as the annoying side, but he’s more than that, but as long as everyone sees him as annoying and “funny” he will remain that way.
@bradholstein2343
@bradholstein2343 Год назад
After a while I finally decided to rewatch this, and I think Roman's reaction at 42:09 ish to Thomas saying "Wh- You ARE!" As a response to Roman saying "I thought I was your hero" was just a simple misinterpretation on his part. He looked specifically at Janus, and the camera cut to him, as if asking "Is he lying?" But Janus may have taken it at "is he telling the truth?" Therefore nodded, because Thomas wasn't lying, Roman IS his hero, but since the question at hand was "Is he lying", a nod was interpreted at "Yes, he is. You're not his hero" hence Roman covering his mouth in disbelief and snapping back with "I can't believe this, did you forget that he's EVIL"
@ejonesactor
@ejonesactor 4 года назад
HOW IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT LESLIE WAS JUST CHILLING LIKE WHAT
@gracefizzle4827
@gracefizzle4827 4 года назад
Im just Bumbee I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS
@Jayup
@Jayup 4 года назад
Aaron burr... ...sir...
@reganmatthews1193
@reganmatthews1193 4 года назад
Alvin Is bored oh sure sir
@farewellneverland
@farewellneverland 4 года назад
Regan Matthews im alexander hamilton at your service sir.
@invisibleghost3820
@invisibleghost3820 4 года назад
Pink Lasagna I’ve been looking for you
@AJ-The-Bumblebee
@AJ-The-Bumblebee 4 года назад
I know people dont trust Janus, but remember in his introduction: His only motivation is self preservation. And sometimes that comes in the form of taking care of yourself before others.
@Rex_o_roar
@Rex_o_roar 4 года назад
Also the fact he's a part of Thomas so he would want Thomas to take care of himself too.
@koalabeertje2466
@koalabeertje2466 4 года назад
my exact thought
@scapegoatcomics6168
@scapegoatcomics6168 4 года назад
Janus represents a human self defence mechanism, lying is essential because without it you cannot conceal your true intentions. The problem is the act of lying has been demonised and the idea that it's wrong is reinforced from such an early point that when we have to learn that lying can be okay and in some cases necessary then we have to unlearn the notion that lying is wrong. And that's what we have here, Janus represents ironically an uncomfortable truth: he is part of Thomas. Roman and Patton have held a sense of moral absolutism and whilst Patton has realised this is not the way and is starting to grow Roman cannot accept this because it challenges his whole identity. In his moral reasoning he is the hero and Janus is the villain...but his reasoning is flawed because it neglects the reality that morality isn't an absolute it's a spectrum. Janus is not evil, he's not even inherently bad but if that's true then what does that mean for Roman? And there is the uncomfortable truth that not all sides of Thomas can reconcile with in this episode. The thing about Janus is he is in service of the self, his priority is and always will be Thomas' wellbeing even if it comes at the expense of others but this doesn't make him any less of a valid side than Virgil, Patton, Logan or yes even Roman. And I cannot wait to see how this continues on, we are seeing the sides evolve with Thomas and just as Patton is learning morality isn't simple so must Roman learn things aren't black and white.
@xjessyplaysssxx7486
@xjessyplaysssxx7486 4 года назад
Who is janus?
@xjessyplaysssxx7486
@xjessyplaysssxx7486 4 года назад
Nvm I know now
@gabbyp1934
@gabbyp1934 2 года назад
Ok. I just had a small epiphany. When “Logan” said “you’ll need a sharp side to cut throughout all this bull … 🐸” I think there’s a double meaning. He’s talking about how he’s actually Janus and talking about dissecting Patton’s reasoning. Just like how sometimes students and teachers dissect frogs in science class. 🤯
@gabbyp1934
@gabbyp1934 2 года назад
@@alisond929 well yes there’s that. But also I feel like in a sense that “Logan” was trying to point out the obvious and kind of make a “pun”, since Patton actually is a bull frog. That was just my opinion and my thought process, and I just thought that that detail added an extra layer of cleverness to the scene.
@MartialFitness656
@MartialFitness656 Год назад
Janice is like early Virgil, seen as the bad guy but cares more than others and doesn’t let it show it and is a protector like Virgil is.
@lemmetalkaboutthis
@lemmetalkaboutthis 4 года назад
I was disappointed that they didn't hug at the end - before I realized. Oh yeah. Right. One person.
@MrLegendofLP
@MrLegendofLP 4 года назад
Right????? I keep expecting them to physically touch and then take a second to remember "Right. All one actor." I'm so glad Thomas, Joan, and Talyn are able to do this as a career, they're so talented!
@gabbydragonway8810
@gabbydragonway8810 4 года назад
I like to imagine that they hugged as soon as the camera was turned off and/or once they sunk out.
@pippip4911
@pippip4911 4 года назад
Yeah! Same! The only way they can hug is if another person is playing the character, like that old episode where Thomas' friends played the sides. It would nice to see a come back of that one day, so we can see them interact now that the relationships between them have changed so much!
@carlosdasilva1549
@carlosdasilva1549 Год назад
​@@MrLegendofLP sw
@carlosdasilva1549
@carlosdasilva1549 Год назад
​@@MrLegendofLP fgh
@ronski8animates245
@ronski8animates245 4 года назад
"Like a groom feels when their bride ran away" "But your gay." Pfft... That was good
@thiscouldbebetter
@thiscouldbebetter 4 года назад
I'm so gunna use this
@hsimone
@hsimone 4 года назад
Literally if the episode wasn't so angsty this would be the entire comments section
@mrvoid4282
@mrvoid4282 4 года назад
I thought he was bi
@elizabethliddell2181
@elizabethliddell2181 4 года назад
What about my gay? 🤣🤣sorry for the grammar nazi couldnt pass it up
@bunnyhasreligioustrauma5874
Janus has evolved into Thomases more self centered nature and desires rather than deceit. But Thomas has internalized this as deceitful and evil in some way when it’s really the most honest part of himself
@happyflowerdemon8565
@happyflowerdemon8565 9 месяцев назад
Honestly that does add onto their story. Tbh, I don't think that the dark sides were always dark sides. However they became this way as Thomas grew to despise them. While the hate towards Remus and they way he acts can't fully be helped. I think that the way that Virgil and Janus were viewed by Thomas and the others, caused them to become dark sides.
@conalexander-smith4926
@conalexander-smith4926 3 года назад
The opposites: Roman - "Good" imagination Remus - "Bad" imagination Logan - Fact Janus - Fiction Patton - Constructive criticism Virgil - Criticism
@WinterPains
@WinterPains 2 года назад
I think Patton and Janus are actually the two sides of the same coin. Both being morality. Patton being Altruism, and Janus being Selfishness.
@Subterranean_sebastian
@Subterranean_sebastian 2 года назад
@@WinterPains as well as anxiety often being illogical yet still effects us!
@pattonbunny3331
@pattonbunny3331 2 года назад
Patton the dad for light sides Janus the dad for dark sides
@idkwoooo
@idkwoooo 2 года назад
@@pattonbunny3331 in the words of Virgil "other" sides
@Chestnut-xm2pv
@Chestnut-xm2pv Год назад
@Con Alexander-Smith Thank you so much for not using the contemporary "opposite-labelling". It goes to show that categorising any of the sides as strict opposites of one-another is all-around stupid.
@Moongirl12121
@Moongirl12121 4 года назад
“You’re not stuck with an evil snake boy,” *dramatic pose* “You’re just stuck with a snake boy.”
@nmquestionmarkm1781
@nmquestionmarkm1781 4 года назад
wholesome snek boiii 🤘
@chaoticmushroomchildren6936
@chaoticmushroomchildren6936 4 года назад
That just made me love him even more!!
@nmquestionmarkm1781
@nmquestionmarkm1781 4 года назад
@@chaoticmushroomchildren6936 yeee 🤘😄🤣
@thelittleprince7072
@thelittleprince7072 4 года назад
and that precious smile
@nmquestionmarkm1781
@nmquestionmarkm1781 4 года назад
@@thelittleprince7072 shhHHHHH- IM GONNA START FANGIRLING AGAIN- 🤣🤣🤣
@Thecrowsnesttrinkets
@Thecrowsnesttrinkets 4 года назад
Patton: “Janus?” Janus: “I’ll take care of him” Me: *cries*
@Mars-io9wl
@Mars-io9wl 4 года назад
That scene honestly confuses me because I can’t tell who he is going to go to. Like Patton said he was going to go and help Roman (I think-) so he isn’t going down to say anything to Roman. So who exactly is he going to..?
@cmd0317
@cmd0317 4 года назад
Isabellla LaRocca I think Thomas.
@robertpongrac8837
@robertpongrac8837 4 года назад
WHERES PATTON GOING
@Mars-io9wl
@Mars-io9wl 4 года назад
SlimySnekBoi ÙWÚ OOH! OKAY! Thank you! It makes so much more sense thank you so much!
@Intrusivemov
@Intrusivemov 4 года назад
Robert Pongrac I’m p sure he’s gonna go Check on roman
@nothingtoseehere5678
@nothingtoseehere5678 2 года назад
Everyone talks about the "color theory" but I have a Role Theory. I think the Role they are introduced as is the aspect of the side that Thomas has the most trouble with. Self Care, Survival Instincts, Spontaneity are all obviously more palatable than Deceit, Anxiety, or Intrusive Thoughts. It works for the Lights too. Patton is called Morality instead of Emotion. Logan is Logic instead of Reasoning. Even Roman is Creativity (something any artist grapples with) instead of Inspiration. I am sure the orange side is going to be something like Wrath but will be accepted as they realize he is also something like Self Respect.
@slitherysnakeysnake5206
@slitherysnakeysnake5206 5 месяцев назад
I also love how Janus actually LISTENS to Logan
@julianjanus6824
@julianjanus6824 4 года назад
Janus is the god of doors and choices in Roman mythology, and he literally has two faces. best name choice possible. Edit: fact correction
@yungrichelle9083
@yungrichelle9083 4 года назад
OH BOI
@shroom_town2509
@shroom_town2509 4 года назад
OMGS I'm so freaking happy that I wasn't the only one thinking that, although I forgot whether it was Greek or Roman mythology but, anyways glad someone has the same thought as me.😁 (sorry that was long)😯😐
@AceOAceZ
@AceOAceZ 4 года назад
Janus - Two Faced Roman god Remus - founder of Rome Virgil - Roman poet Patton and Logan - Roman terms (Pathos and Logos) omg what
@spoopy3963
@spoopy3963 4 года назад
🤯
@ShinyKyogre789YT
@ShinyKyogre789YT 4 года назад
I seriously did not know that. Thank you for the astute observation.
@rioisnotokay-ipromise-6115
@rioisnotokay-ipromise-6115 4 года назад
For y’all wondering where Virgil was, he was obviously social distancing
@rioisnotokay-ipromise-6115
@rioisnotokay-ipromise-6115 4 года назад
april aw my pleasure!
@dayy_dreemurr
@dayy_dreemurr 4 года назад
Virgil and Logan are the only sides with brain cells (Logan was social distancing with the text box)
@doodlethreadsofficial3323
@doodlethreadsofficial3323 4 года назад
I love this but also Thomas said in a live stream this is a alternate timeline so this is set before everything happened
@g1wstk
@g1wstk 4 года назад
Pretty sure he's playing Just Dance in his room.
@leafeonlover2970
@leafeonlover2970 4 года назад
Mary Dewitch I’m so scared for where Virgil is and what he’s going through because, normally, Anxiety would be a huge factor in what Thomas was experiencing in the episode, yet he wasn’t present!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRECIOUS ANGSTY BOI!!!
@timothydunaway7568
@timothydunaway7568 3 года назад
37:08 Look at deceit's face he looks so happy to have someone help defend his point
@gamergamer4369
@gamergamer4369 Год назад
Patton: Oh, logan I- Logan: PETER SINGER...
@ellastarburst736
@ellastarburst736 4 года назад
Ok, listen, can somebody teach these guys how to say "I respectfully disagree"? Edit: look at Logan at 30:17
@MrLegendofLP
@MrLegendofLP 4 года назад
We could but then we wouldn't have a show and wouldn't be feeling all this angst.
@jennifermora9327
@jennifermora9327 4 года назад
*cough, cough* Logan
@bearhugsleafbugs
@bearhugsleafbugs 4 года назад
Ella Starburst Yes, please and thank you
@maddiegoins2186
@maddiegoins2186 3 года назад
Next Time on Sander Sides: Virgil: hey everybo- WHAT IS HE DOING HERE Janus: 👁👄👁
@heya5010
@heya5010 3 года назад
WHERE'S MEH POPS?!
@stranguhh2878
@stranguhh2878 3 года назад
All of Virgil's nicknames ever given to him: 1. Dark stormy knight 2. Creepy cookie 3 .Brad pitiful 4. Worry wart 5. Friendo 6. Panic at the everywhere 7. Jack smellington 8. Incredible sulk 9. Charlie frown 10. Virge 11. Robert downy junior 12. Shadowy but angelic song bird 13. Kamlia the chicken 14. Vomity central 15. A mean one 16. Kylo friends 17. Bat winged cherob 18. One angry man over there 19. Perp man 20.Sunshine 21. Emo 22. Emo nightmare 23. Hot topic 24. Wet blanket 25. Chemically unbalanced romance 26. Negitave Nancy 27. Jason toddler 28. Jerky mcjerk face 29. Supreme dark overlord of negitave comers 30. Sirly temple 31. J Delightful 32. Dr gloom 33. Fairest of them all 34.Count woaloft 35.Marilyn Monrose 36. Sweet and sour misunderstood shadowling 37. Poor little anxious baby 38. Gerard gay 39. Tiger 40. Bird brain There's a lot😂 Also most of these are from Roman which I love😂 edit: I added the last ones because of the newest sander sides video!
@carlamuffin
@carlamuffin 3 года назад
@@stranguhh2878 Hmmmmmmmmmmm
@hadrianw_
@hadrianw_ 3 года назад
@@stranguhh2878 oh my goodness did you put this in every comment? All of the comments (that I've read so far) that have a bunch of replies have this added to them lmao that is commitment!
@cmd0317
@cmd0317 3 года назад
Roman: I have no fucking clue.
@sardsvib
@sardsvib 2 года назад
I've just realized a couple of things. Janus is also Thomas's morality, he's similar to how Remus and Roman are - the "bad" side of morality, the side that's self-serving. Not only that, but Janus's outfit is almost the exact opposite of Patton's. Yellow is the opposite of blue, and black is the opposite of white (the sweater is light).
@markyboi9354
@markyboi9354 Год назад
Well yellow isn’t an exact opposite but it’s really close oh and also yellow just symbolizes lying and Deceit
@kaelin_cherise
@kaelin_cherise Год назад
Actually in color theory, Orange and blue are complimentary colors, but this is still a good point
@HaShomeret
@HaShomeret Год назад
I think your right.
@bwaindead5539
@bwaindead5539 3 года назад
My sides when I’m trying to get the covid vaccine: Logic: You have to get it. Creativity: You have to get it. Morality: You have to get it. Anxiety: *sobbing uncontrollably*
@szaboluca5536
@szaboluca5536 2 года назад
I know it's an older comment, but oof mood. I was so anxious about having an allergic reaction to the vaccine that after getting it, while I was in the waiting room w the other freshly vaccinated folks, I almost had a panic attack and the attending lady asked if I was okay, and took my blood pressure, and gave me a glass of water💀💀
@glitchie_the_monstrosity475
@glitchie_the_monstrosity475 2 года назад
So I just got 2 shots and apparently it looked like I was about to have a whole panic attack- so that's g r e a t. My anxiety was seriously kicking in- the entire time before, I was trying so hard to reassure myself that I was fine but in my head I was freaking out-
@scarlettarana
@scarlettarana 2 года назад
My Anxiety would be ominously looming over my shoulder while Deceit and Logic are talking me through it
@wren4now904
@wren4now904 Год назад
C a n r e l a t e
@markyboi9354
@markyboi9354 Год назад
Deceit: Nooooooooo Bwaimdead don’t get it it won’t save any lives AT ALLLLLLL…
@lydiascott5603
@lydiascott5603 3 года назад
When Roman mocked Janus at the end, I was like "Wow, he sounds just like him!" And then I remembered. Thomas is such a good actor I forget he plays every character
@kingofwhatever1544
@kingofwhatever1544 3 года назад
Honestly same, like in SVS when Janus was mimicking Virgil about the whole wedding thing I was like "damn he sounds exactly like him" and then I remembered-
@frogg_tv4774
@frogg_tv4774 2 года назад
Oh my gosh I forgot too
@jessicahunter4408
@jessicahunter4408 2 года назад
I thought i was the only one like i really forgot Thomas is every character
@salamifella
@salamifella 2 года назад
SAME I was like “oh WAit… Their played by the same person…”
@wren4now904
@wren4now904 2 года назад
I was actually uncomfortable that they weren’t wearing masks for a sec and then I remembered that this was pre-covid and they’re actually all one person
@morgolig6095
@morgolig6095 4 года назад
Seeing Janus without his gloves is what it’s gonna be like to see Roman with legs.
@avoidontheinternet9623
@avoidontheinternet9623 4 года назад
M0RG0LIG Wait, Roman has _legs?_ I know Logan, Virgil, Remus, and (maybe in SvS?) Janus do because we literally saw them but Roman has legs?
@morgolig6095
@morgolig6095 4 года назад
I didn’t think he did either but my friend just pointed out that he has legs in the video game section. Disappointing but oh well.
@MrLegendofLP
@MrLegendofLP 4 года назад
Janus without the glove was as bad as Remus without the mustache from the bloopers. Just... really uncomfortable for some reason.
@morgolig6095
@morgolig6095 4 года назад
@MrLegendofLP 😂 Oh my god I forgot about that
@WelcomeApathy
@WelcomeApathy 4 года назад
Watch the vines with Princey. He's definitely got legs.
@p0larbEars
@p0larbEars Год назад
Patton: *gets hits in the face* Logan:oh shiz my bad Thomas: MY BLIND'S!! Timestamp: 21:55
@thatch_4245
@thatch_4245 3 года назад
I just want to point out Patton’s inventory at 19:55 , it looks like he has his cat onesie, 278 cans of tuna (?!?) two tennis rackets, a candle, eye protection, some piece of paper (i’m not 100% sure, but it might be the card Virgil made for him), his Christmas sweater, two cookies, two things that i can’t make out, a potato (maybe), a painting/picture of some sort, the scooby doo tag, LUNGS(?!?), and lee and mary lee. i love how every single one references another video.
@yufaelia
@yufaelia 3 года назад
Quick correction, the lungs are actually the dog ears from the Halloween episode :)
@thatch_4245
@thatch_4245 3 года назад
@@yufaelia oh that makes so much more sense jsnshwkms
@thatch_4245
@thatch_4245 2 года назад
@@thatastastan oh, i just meant it was a lot
@mistythewillow4724
@mistythewillow4724 4 года назад
Roman just has some trust issues because he doesn’t want what he has to end and having enemies and friends makes his life like a fairy tale
@sarcasticsquiggles1512
@sarcasticsquiggles1512 4 года назад
@MistyThe Willow Good theory! Though, as I replied to another, perhaps Roman doesn’t like the other sides because it is competition for Thomas’ attention, or favoritism. And since he really only sees in “black and white”, unless shown through facts by everyone for 20 minutes, it’s not hard to suggest that he wouldn’t take it well especially if he also represents “Pride” which would explain a lot of his reactions to not only Virgil’s and Janus’ name reveals but also as a whole. If you truly think about it Roman is the one holding Thomas back by portraying these sides as “bad” and “evil” when all of them have aimed to help Thomas in different ways. The sooner Thomas accepts ever part of himself the sooner Roman will become more open minded and push Thomas forward rather than hold him back.
@Milo_71
@Milo_71 4 года назад
That is Actual good theory
@mok5025
@mok5025 4 года назад
Sarcastic Squiggles where did Roman seeing in “black and white” come from??
@sarcasticsquiggles1512
@sarcasticsquiggles1512 4 года назад
Glitchy_Baguette_ Bread think about it, Roman represents Creativity and Pride. And it just so happens that Thomas loves Disney, and what’s in Disney all the time? Thomas himself sees in black and white in a way. He split creativity into two different “people” because he saw One as unacceptable. Because of Roman being only half of Creativity it’s very possible he only has the capacity to think in family friendly ways, which just so happens to be mostly Disney. Is it too far of a stretch to suggest Roman simply only sees the world in that way? After all he is only a small part of Thomas, he’s not a person himself rather a fraction of someone.
@mistythewillow4724
@mistythewillow4724 4 года назад
This all got way to real for me in the comments
@hsimone
@hsimone 4 года назад
Y'all are all talking about the episode, but the only thing I think is Roman has legs confirmed
@gentlesandladymen
@gentlesandladymen 4 года назад
Hannah S. LIES
@jameselloyd
@jameselloyd 4 года назад
LMAO
@isitreallyamechsfan2964
@isitreallyamechsfan2964 4 года назад
No he just has legs *today* and Remus doesn't have then tight now
@isitreallyamechsfan2964
@isitreallyamechsfan2964 4 года назад
No he just has legs *today* and Remus doesn't have then tight now
@ghost__404
@ghost__404 4 года назад
FALSEHOOD!!
@pointbreak8474
@pointbreak8474 2 года назад
Janus: I’ll take care of him Three seconds later Let’s push sum peepl down sum sters
@bipride1763
@bipride1763 2 года назад
Am I sadistic for wanting an episode with MaryLee and Lee finding out about the call back and being: Yeah yeah you could’ve went we’d be bummed but we would’ve understood and Thomas being like: I’m gonna cry.
@fandomsfan1
@fandomsfan1 8 месяцев назад
Unrelated, but I see you're an Omori fan as well!
@EvangelineBelle
@EvangelineBelle 4 года назад
Janus: “You’re not stuck with an evil snek boi...” Thomas: ....... Janus: “you’re stuck with a SnEk BoI”
@sapphis_lazuli
@sapphis_lazuli 4 года назад
that is one of my favorite lines both in phrasing and delivery
@infamouse9263
@infamouse9263 4 года назад
DeathX Dylan mine too
@infamouse9263
@infamouse9263 4 года назад
zonescat yeah
@chiaria8218
@chiaria8218 4 года назад
Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Roman, 2 days later: "Lol, Janus.."
@tristana1660
@tristana1660 4 года назад
Roman 5 years later: "what a stupid name..... Janus..... Lol"
@chiaria8218
@chiaria8218 4 года назад
@Hannah Potter Yes or like a short video 😂
@wrensrunes6775
@wrensrunes6775 4 года назад
This is me and morality hates me for it
@AngryDemonCat
@AngryDemonCat Год назад
46:27 My headcanon is that Janus and Remus plot plans to hurt or injure others and Janus got this one from Remus 💚💛
@Patchesn0x
@Patchesn0x 6 дней назад
added to the headcannon , they also lovingly plot each other's demise
@hakurei_mikorei
@hakurei_mikorei Год назад
This is one of the most important and hitting episodes. The fact that Janus is ACTUALLY the one showing some seriousness and caring about Thomas, that is a genuine sign of improvement and not just Janus being an jerk. A lot of people need to learn from what Janus says to Lily Patton! Selfishness shouldnt be viewed as a bad word. On top of that Logan providing his facts the way he does, its amazing that it doesnt take away the audience’s main attention to the main point being shown to us
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